Need a light?

@thekhoifish0146

10 ай бұрын

Zigaretten?

@michaelandreipalon359

10 ай бұрын

No need, Terran Firebat.

@AtticusHess

10 ай бұрын

Only if they're Vietnam Era Newports

@EireHammer

10 ай бұрын

_Stop, drop and roll. Always makes me laugh..._

@warpartyattheoutpost4987

10 ай бұрын

No need, I have an M2 Flamethrower.

My dad was a fire arrow. He always told me it was was hot business and he would often come home late and burned out.

@fisk0

10 ай бұрын

Remember to thank him for his service!

@jaesungkim5478

10 ай бұрын

He must have been a hotshot

The film _Troy_ (2004) not only had fire arrows filmed practically like _Gladiator_ (2000), but they were used in two specific scenes in an attempt to set ships on fire, and set in the path of flammable bundles to cause chaos during the night.

I was a competition archer for 20+ years here in the UK, and to be honest most Hollywood type Archery is just so divorced from reality but Hey it's Entertainment (Well it used to be anyway) we experimented with burning arrows a few times as some of our members were into re-enactment.getting them to stay alight was very difficult and the arrows flew very slowly and erratically and obviously the arrows were destroyed. To be honest our Longbows were only around 60lb draw weight as compared to some medieval examples being well in excess of 100lb but any accuracy and distance is severely limited in any case, getting them over a castle wall would be achievable but the defenders would out range any such attack and something like crossbowmen's Pavice would be needed. I must point out No Villages Were Burnt during our experiments.🎯🏹🇬🇧

@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

10 ай бұрын

A lot of film makers just consider arrows to be really quiet bullets.

@kithranen1542

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience. I always try to add some weight for realism in my D&D sessions and fire arrows have come up a few times. The issues you mentioned are the ones I thought would present the biggest challenges.

@johnpauljones9310

9 ай бұрын

@@kithranen1542 Flaming arrows have to be used in movies. Not many in a modern audience could stand to watch how besieging armies used to really set cities on fire: They'd capture birds that nested in those cities, then set them on fire so they'd fly back to their nests in a panic. Hundreds of flaming arrows is easier for a modern audience to watchon film that hundreds of birds on fire and shrieking in pain.

@tiagodecastro2929

6 ай бұрын

​@@johnpauljones9310Filmmakers just need to do a bit more research. There were other interesting ways of burning down cities. I know that one such way was to dig tunnels underneath a city wall and set fire inside the tunnels, although I'm unaware of the frequency with which this happened. But a subterranean war between medieval tunnel diggers of opposing factions might be cool, maybe something like a medieval version of the WW1 film Beneath Hill 60

@galvinstanley3235

Ай бұрын

The flaming arrows in Robin Hood PoT were real,the director wanted the movie to be accurate with showing casting arrowheads with a stick,and how flaming arrows work.

As a fire arrow I'd like to thank you for this factual representation.

I am so happy Men in Tights was shown.

@nickirmen6671

10 ай бұрын

I need to watch it again, I'm on a Cary Elwes movie binge

Somehow I got an ad of preventing bush fire. KZread has a good sense of humor

Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves(1991) First Knight(1995) Timeline(2003) BraveHeart(1995) The Last Samurai(2003)

@kithranen1542

10 ай бұрын

Completely unrelated, but what happened in the early 2000's that made all movies start to suck? Was it just CGI? Movies of the previous era using practical effects were great for obvious reasons, but even the writing took a huge downward turn during that time frame.

I like their use in civilization V. Your archers fire normal arrows at enemies, but pull out fire arrows when shooting at a city.

@olknoxlo

10 ай бұрын

Just to add on, Infantry units throw torches into the city as well when attacking. I can't remember if advanced units later on have any unique animations similarly.

My D&D group has used fire arrows in previous sessions and continues to ask about using them. I have shared this video as it perfectly encapsulates my issues with their use. One thing that you touched on, but didn't highlight, is that you need an open source of flame to ignite your arrows before their immediate use. This requires preparation, which you did cover, but it also requires the archer to stand still and in a well-lit position to be effective.

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

Very cool. Grew up playing D&D. And you're absolutely right about your additional point!

@fishingthelist4017

10 ай бұрын

As a Rogue, I would prefer not to stand in one place next to an open flame so that every bad thing in the area can see me.

@Killicon93

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I love the idea of fire arrows as specialized tools rather than just an arrow that has fire damage. One way for a stealthy infiltrator to light their fire arrow without exposing themself to light would be carrying embers in a jar by using a tinder polypore and fire arrows based on the pinewood+sulfur matches described. As well in a fantasy setting it wouldn't be entirely impossible to have arrows with two glass vials of compounds that combust when in contact with each other. Or an even simpler solution is available if you're sneaking around with a team mate who's capable of casting heat metal who can just make your arrow tip red hot and then just shoot it somewhere you wanna cause a fire.

Another thing that - well a couple of things - that annoy me about archers on television. Firstly - "Fire". The correct term is "loose" and sometimes it's used. Secondly the idea of holding your boat full draw while you're waiting for the command to "fire". Maybe if your draw weight's about 20 or 30 pounds . God, Peter Jackson has a lot to answer for.

@ColonelSandersLite

10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure these grossly predate peter jackson. I remember seeing these things happen in movies when I was a kid and he was a nobody.

@davidrobinson4553

10 ай бұрын

I remember my first Archery lesson, it was drummed into us, You don't "FIre" a Bow, and it's Never a Bulls Eye it's a Gold, we were frowned upon when we said rather ireverently the arrow was in the Custard ,,, or Sauce Anglais as I think it's called outside the UK 🇬🇧

A cool story of using fire to destroy a village was by Olga of Kiev. She was able to convince a village that she would leave them alone if they gave her their messenger birds. She then had sulphur and cloth attached to the birds, lit them on fire at night and sent them back to original owners burning people alive in their sleep.

@racapinang

10 ай бұрын

Wow, I can't say whether it's brutal or pure genius. I haven't read the whole story about it tho, can't be bias.

@minxythemerciless

10 ай бұрын

The Americans had a similar plan in WWII but with the "Bat Bomb" where incendiary laden bats were dropped to hide in roofs and set them on fire

@kutter_ttl6786

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't just a village, It was a whole city. It was part of a campaign against a tribe called the Drevlians who had murdered her husband. She laid siege to the city for a year and told them that she would lift the siege if each household would provide 3 pigeons and 3 sparrows, which seemed like such a small price so the Drevlians gladly obliged. She was very determined to wipe out the Drevlians for what they did to her husband.

@AdamantLightLP

10 ай бұрын

History sure can be dark

@ColonelSandersLite

10 ай бұрын

Honestly sounds like BS to me. Any idea how easily feathers melt and burn? Any real heat at all and you would have a featherless bird. Try it some time.

IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A FIRE ARROW. you always throw me off with your silly lines I love it

Movies in 2300 depicting wars around 2000 will only use incendiary bullets I bet.

@ComissarYarrick

10 ай бұрын

Or tracer rounds

"LEAVE US ALONE, MEL BROOKS!!!!"

If historical archers chose to ignore the +3 Burning damage, that's their loss.

"Night arrows" in timeline is the most ridiculous line ever.

@michaelandreipalon359

10 ай бұрын

One more reason why the book's better.

As someone who’s shot a fire arrow , I can confidently say that they aren’t meant to hit people they are meant to set fire to their surroundings

@reidboggs4344

10 ай бұрын

Correct. Now the enemy has to deal with the castle walls being besieged and the castle being on fire.

That Olympic torch opening using fire arrow was pretty cool

It was fairly common for medieval fortifications to be made of wood, and even stone castles often contained some wooden structures. Meanwhile, siege weapons like rams and siege towers were also constructed of wood making them at lease somewhat vulnerable to fire. In fact, siege towers were often covered in wet animal hides to make them less flammable.

@windsaw151

9 ай бұрын

Wooden castles were common but build very much in the mind of being able to withstand fires. Most were plastered for example. They also took care that exposed wooden structures were flat and featureless, making them very hard to set on fire. Simple flaming arrows wouldn't do anything to them.

@matthewzito6130

9 ай бұрын

@@windsaw151 It's not just the castle walls though. A castle courtyard may have contained a variety of outbuildings like stables, sheds and workshops within the walls, along with the wagons, carts and tents of peasants who crowded into the castle for protection. Arrows fired over the walls could start fires within, and while this probably wouldn't bring down the castle, it could make life very unpleasant for the people inside. Also, having to repeatedly put out fires, even small ones, could draw defenders away from their other duties (like guarding the walls) and/or prevent them from getting rest.

@BalkyBartokomous2525

9 ай бұрын

A wood beam is not that easy to set on fire, a fire arrow won't do it. The arrow would need to hit straw, thatch, cloth, ropes, dried leaves, things like that.

@galvinstanley3235

Ай бұрын

Making them less flammable to fire arrows didn't work that's a myth.

For a filming historical event we had to shoot fire arrows into a thatched roof. What happened was the arrows slid between the thatch and the fire put out. After around twenty arrows, we set fire to the thatch by hand.

@galvinstanley3235

4 күн бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoJ3t5aQnsfaic4.htmlsi=xKty5M84nAJIww-e

And Johnny love your knowledge and enthusiasm for history! Since 1973 I have now over 4000 books about history, yeah its insane.

Excited for this one

That Olympic Torch lighting clip was incredible! Through your content I have seen so many epic videos I probably would never have found otherwise. Thank you!

Just wanted to say I love these videos you make on all sorts of things ❤

So basically movies use it as a form of medieval tracer round for film

i follow a blog that documents first-hand accounts of battles & skirmishes from antiquity and fire arrows come up surprisingly often

As an archer myself I often wondered why going trough all the trouble if you can just shoot a normal arrow quicker and safer to kill your enemy. Flaming arrow would only be usefull to burn flammable rooftops or so, and even then in HUGE numbers.

@galvinstanley3235

4 күн бұрын

They are designed to also have a psychological effect on people.

Very nice information for using fire arrows or flaming arrows. Can you make one about the ancient sling? Very underrated range weapon.

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

Love this idea. Will add it to my list.

GREAT episode Johnny! I remember a few years ago, Lindybeige did an episode on this subject. And yeah, most of it was Hollywood fantasy. See ya next time. (or actually, hear ya next time.) 👍

You rock Johnny.

You're videos are fire!

When I was a kid, I wrapped a rag around the tip of an arrow, poured gas from the lawn mower on it, lit it, and shot. To my astonishment, the flaming arrow shot 50 yards off into the woods and stuck in a tree. I was amazed that it actually worked just like in the movies. Awesome! 😁

Educational and good content as always .

"LEAVE US ALONE MEL BROOKS!"

One other use for fire arrows was for signalling, akin to how flares and signal rockets have been used since the invention of gun powder.

Even in the Total Wars strategy games (Rome, Rome 2, Medievial, Medievial 2, Shogun and Shogun 2) the option for fire arrows is only use to break the moral of the enemy or let the elefants go amok because of the flames. Normal arrows to the most kills in this game series.

@ayhanfedai5013

9 ай бұрын

yea and they inaccurate miss most time ....but you could use them to lit enemy rams in siege

I've actually shot one at my archery club, it singed my bow

Been following you since the start. There is nothing like a notification from you. Thanks pimp.

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, my OG. Really appreciate hearing that.

in game of Stronghold fire arrows do no extra damage, but people still use them because they are fun to use

@antoniodelaugger9236

10 ай бұрын

Total war decreases the damage but also effects morale, in shogun, they're outright useless against samurais wearing their armor

Great video, here's on purpose of a flaming arrow I think wasn't mentioned. To give a signal to your troops in the rear or to the besieged castle that help is on its way.

I'm a fire arrow And I'm on fire... oh God stop drop and roll!!!!!!

Robin Hood 1991 was fun. He could shoot fire arrows and also extinguish them by just blowing at them. :D

@galvinstanley3235

Ай бұрын

That's a little hard when dozens are flying at him.

Bonus morale effect in Rome Total War!! ☺️

That olympic shot was pretty cool

Wow

Great info, thanks for the vid!

"FIRE ARROWS!" - Lindybeige

@galvinstanley3235

Ай бұрын

He's dumb.

I'm so happy you included the men in thights bit ^^

This video really does highlight how badass fire arrows can look in film, and why they have been the gold standard.

@SnakebitSTI

10 ай бұрын

I was going to say, even if fire arrows were completely useless for military use, you just know someone somewhere would have tried it just because it looks so cool.

@antoniodelaugger9236

10 ай бұрын

@@SnakebitSTI its definitely not useless, you can search up for the image of an american soldier during the vietnam war with a bow and a burning arrow using it to burn rice huts

My dad! 1:43 bends down to pick up the arrow that split in half. He was fired but it was kept in as it was more realistic great video Johnny was hoping to see that clip

Robin Hood, the old one with Errol Flynn, has a Rotten Tomatoes of 100%. I don’t know if it includes flaming arrows thou’.

Thanks for the cool video! After playing Total War games as a kid, I was under the impression that flaming arrows were indeed a thing in the past. BTW, we all are fire arrows in a sense. Some of us fly higher, some burn twice as bright and half as long. Most of us miss the target and just hit the ground.

@kithranen1542

10 ай бұрын

...and some of us fail to light entirely.

@Shotokan1001

10 ай бұрын

Derivative bullshit

Awesome dude as always. Have you ever done any videos on trench warfare? Love the channel man great work

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man. Here's an old trench video I made kzread.info/dash/bejne/lals2dyJnKnFpM4.html

2:04 GIANT DAD

Another good one. You're on fire Johnny!

Top notch, definitely no pun intended...here on the Wirral, and at Shotwick on the Welsh border ,there are whetsones used by Welsh and Cheshire Longbow men...certainly, no evidence of flaming arrows...good cinema references though...well done ,Johnny, peace and love from the wirral peninsula....ps longbows are hard work..tried it a few times...😅😅...E

Imagine if it was combined with thermite that would be 🔥

Excellent video, as always, Johnny! Cheers! PS: suddenly, I feel an incredible urge to play AoE4.

For igniting thatch, a hot coal or something smouldering would probably work better than actual flame - the wind in flight would tend to fan it, and it might lie in the thatch harmlessly for quite awhile before creating a fire. In summer, thatch may well become tinder dry - a small ember quickly becomes a big problem.

I tried shooting a flaming arrow when I was a kid. I was met with disappointment when it became smoking arrow when it made flight.

One film that had fire arrows was the 1986 feaature, The Mission, however the commentary track with director, Roland Joffe, said that it wasn't historical, he just decided to add that in the movie. Take care, and all the best.

Regarding setting fields on fire, that is absolutely possible with the right weather conditions. And with perfect wildfire conditions, an arrow head striking armor could produce enough of a spark to start a field burning. Wildly impractical, though. I doubt it's ever been done. It would be extremely weather dependent, and if conditions are that hot and dry the fire is quite likely to burn a lot more than a single field.

Telly used a crossbow in "Escape from Athena" (1979).

There's a YouBoob channel that specializes in medieval weaponry. They had no problem making the special arrow head and filler. It worked just fine.

Steel wool is a fantastic medium for flaming arrows, but that arrow is destroyed for certain.

As a fire arrow I want to add that I burned down a hay roof today.

I recall some Hollywood Western, but can't remember the name of the film, but it were Commanche using them on the settlers.

0:47 I hear it still happens to this day.

I like the idea of the old arrowheads with levers that strike flint towards the cage when they land

imagine how much work arrows especially cage arrows must have been the steel works alone....

Do they use beehives as weapons in medieval times? By throwing them off castle walls so the bees will attack the invaders below? An example in movies is Friar Tuck using his beehives as a weapon in Robin Hood (2010).

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

I believe there is a real account of this! And I'll be looking into it further for you.

@bursegsardaukar

10 ай бұрын

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thanks

I suggest videos on the: English Longbow Crossbow Composite bow Glock Mosin Nagant Lee Enfield Springfield Rifle models of 1873 and 1903 Winchester rifle series

I do happen to be a fire arrow, thanks for this video!

Mi like was the 2023 one XD. Thanks for the informativ video!

Could you do the US Springfield 1873?

Rome 2 Total war also archers that uses Fire arrows including most Javelinmen but with lower damage & only purpose is to demoralise the enemy,great to make the enemy army route quicker with reduce friendly fire damage as both clash with swords If a flaming projectile managed to kill one, a dying soldier screams attempting to put it out before laying down dead

To be fair fire arrows at night would actually make a good opening move. Tracer rounds of the day. You can see where your shots fly to and land? Good! You know your range and that area is a little easier to see. Knock your next shots cold and aim accordingly.

I would add something but I might burn the house down

A piece of hot coal should be ideal. The airflow will make it super hot and when the arrow lands the coal can ignite some cloth doused in oil 🙂

@galvinstanley3235

Ай бұрын

People love to start their bon fires with them.

The garden state clip 😂

In short, only magical users and enchanted beings can use these bad boys, correct? At least that should appease gamers knowledgeable in the likes of Orcs Must Die!

Also crude oil pitch and tar are very difficult to ignite -there not like gasoline - the scene from brave heart is pure fantasy - you would have to preheat the oil to a high temperature before it could be ignited by a burning rag tied to an arrow -

I prefer explodey arrows like Rambo used, although I can only get them for my D&D bow and not my deer hunting bow.

Could you do a video on crossbows?

Could you make a video about flaming bayonets or incendiary rounds

Considering it’s a hot topic how about Greek fire? Was it real 🤔

i am watching this 30 minutes after this was posted lol

I am flaming camel, so i thought i'd weigh in - being on fire really hurts, so please don't set your arrows aflame if you care about them. Thanks

TROGDOR!

So what about in Ran when the armies burned down the castle with flaming arrows?

FIRE ARROWS!!! ☄️💥🔥

Well, this reminds me of something... Can You use a bow like a mace? Like in 'God of War Ragnarok" Atreus uses his bow for meele attack?

Age of empires 2❤

Are you gonna do night arrows as a followup? 😜

@JohnnyJohnsonEsq

10 ай бұрын

Saving that as a special surprise for the french...

Cheetos™ weren't unhealthy enough so they made Flamin' Hot Cheetos™.

I like bow and Arrow

Interesting. I thought the same thing.

Flaming arrows are just like swords being presented as classic primary weapon instead of guns and poles

What about useing it as a flare?