Just saw this video. A general rule for LED bulbs is use a colored bulb behind a colored lens, such as red led behind red lens. That's what emergency equipment installers do. It give you the best output of brightness/intensity. Keep up the good work.

@PTRRanger951

5 жыл бұрын

Some do, unless you use the installer that upfitted my vehicle. ‘Eye roll’ lol

@John-1984

5 жыл бұрын

I was about to say I didn't how the red got washed out because of the first white leds.

@dashcamSK

5 жыл бұрын

The idea behind using the same color of LED chips behind colored lens is because unlike incandescent bulbs (which have quite a broad spectrum of light, ie. they actually shine more colors (orangfe, red, blue, yellow etc) with different intesity, due to principle on which they work, basically being a very hot wire) the led chips are actually quite good with having a narrow light spectrum. Meaning the red led chips have majority of their light output in red color, and only a little of other colors. The red lens basically work as a filter, so they block majority of other colors and only pass the red color. That is why you have the best color accuracy and brightness using the same color led chip as the color of the lens. The transmission of the light is most efficient in that setup. While you can have a white led behind red lens, it will work, but the overall result will not be the best.

@nicholasreynolds5227

5 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. I've been through my share of headlight and tail light conversions. A good quality amber and red two stage led is where it's at. Also, you may need a different flasher relay if in an older vehicle. Or if in a newer vehicle, a load or ohm resistor installed to avoid the hyper flash when you use your turn signals. A good brand that I've found to be of good quality is called SiriusLed. Hope this helps.

@crlaw75

Жыл бұрын

Chrysler van's (Caravans) taillights are LED, but they are red lights behind the lens.

Seriously dude, thank you so much for spending your money to find out what works best. You the real mvp!

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks man im glad i could help the community, thanks for watching!

@ComputermanAM13

4 жыл бұрын

@@PoorManMods I'm doing the same but when i find the best one i send back all the others to Amazon and have a full refund 😆

The lens will filter all light except red spectrum, so you lose brightness with a white bulb. Also white will look pink

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that makes a lot of sense, thanks!

@rifkyalmahdi4010

5 жыл бұрын

Nice information, I'd already bought red LED for the taillight

@brapamaldi7666

5 жыл бұрын

but the light clearly looked pinker with the red leds. i found the red color to be better with the white led but the light was brighter with the red led. 13:36

@jamesf9610

5 жыл бұрын

I've got JDM astar max in red and they are the best I've ever tried. Extremely bright and when they light up they are red red not pinkish red as you are correct white bulbs in red taillight housing looks pinkish.

@TheGhungFu

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. That's why the original incandescent lights are white?.... @@jamesf9610

I sometimes use UL rated aluminum tape as reflectors. It’s my secret tip. They can withstand high temps and reflects light perfectly

My oem "Made in Japan" 1157 and 1156 bulbs are still kicking after 30 years in the Supra. Great quality bulbs back then.

@dvader3000

3 жыл бұрын

Damn

@The_BIG_salad

2 жыл бұрын

I bet they are just as bright if not brighter than brand new bulbs.

@onesikm3

3 ай бұрын

Still kicken?

@Shwalker07

3 ай бұрын

@@onesikm3 Yup, still working fine. Only upgraded the headlights to led.

@genesis-ii

13 күн бұрын

Everything was better back then

Put aluminum tape in the housings.

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

i did and it didnt work the best lol

@rchotrodder1

6 жыл бұрын

Was worth a shot I guess. Sucks it didn't work

@hansanderson6607

5 жыл бұрын

No, use aluminum foil with double-sided tape. Foil is smoother and should reflect light better than aluminum tape.

@jamesf9610

5 жыл бұрын

There is a much much better chrome paint than what you used and it actually looks like a nice shiny pc of chrome and it works wonderful for such use.

@bondovwvw

5 жыл бұрын

Actually white paint works very good

People like you make life easier. Thank you 👍

@PoorManMods

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

A lot of LED manufacturers suggest using red lights with red lenses. Because the white tends to look more pinkish because of the brighter white color. But thank you for showing the differences in quality LEDs to cheap LEDs

I don't know if it's already been mentioned in one of the comments, but all the Sylvania LEDs were noticeably quicker to light than the incandescent. That's a big plus for a brake light. The other LEDs were not as quick as the Sylvanias (to my eyes), but were still quicker to light than the incandescent. And I agree that you want the brightness of the brake lights to be discernably different from the regular running lights. Great video! Glad I came across while search Amazon for LEDs. It's made a huge difference in what I'll buy.

Thanks for this video. I bought the Sylvania 1157r to swap out the all the stop light and running lights on the rear end of my car (2018 Hyundai) The fast response of the brake light and how Sylvania handled the lower light output is what sold me.

White led are composite rgb chips, while red is just red. So you get more intensity with just red. Also as mentioned earlier the tail light housing acts as a filter letting only red go through

@IdealIdeas100

9 ай бұрын

thats not true. Thats why RGBW exists. You can buy a daylight color LED that isnt composed of a RGB chip.

@Jeffrey_Lew

4 ай бұрын

The original post is very old, but I’ll correct it anyway. White LEDs are actually blue LEDs where the blue + UV light of the LED excite a phosphor material that glows with a white color (the yellow color of the LED is actually the phosphor). The output spectrum of a typical white LED is weak in the red and strong in the blue, so behind a red filter the light will be relatively weak. The light from a red LED passes through a red filter unfiltered.

My old RV has 3 tail lights on each side and I tried the cheap amazon LEDs and had the problem with the difference in brightness from running light to stop light not being very different. I'm glad I found your video. Thanks!

I swapped back to my OEM units as certain led elements started to flicker as they started to fail. Just something to keep an eye out after awhile. Some vehicles will want a resistor if the lighting system is sensitive to voltages. It's been a couple years now, and perhaps the ones on the market are better hopefully. I've also been waiting to replace my interior lighting to LED just in case I have one of those "DOH!" moments of leaving them on all night. Which is why I have chosen not to do a review as of yet on my own personal channel. But great to see someone else providing their insights and product introduction to the various 1157's. Thank you. :) Cheers

Solid review. Im currently bulb shopping for my 2018 f-150. I had no idea they even made red l.e.d. bulbs for brake lights and this was a real eye opener for me. I definitely agree with your overall choice. Good work 👍✋👍✋

Thank you that saves me money the cheap stock bulb performs the best.

Thanks for making this video . I was searching for a while to get more info on switching to a led and the brightness difference , and didn't find much . Your video showed things I hadn't even thought about . You saved me money , I think I might try those amber 1157 led Sylvania bulbs

I had the EXACT same problem with choosing LED bulbs from the auto shop and getting disappointing results from the best brands. I'm glad I got to your video!

Finally!! Your the video I've been looking for! An actual in the lens housing comparison of LEDS.Thank you for your time and money spent.

This is so dope, thanks for doing such a detailed and comprehensive breakdown of each bulb - taking one for the rest of us!

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I had the exact same problem with a pair of led globes i bought on ebay. No difference between brake & tail lights. Dangerous for night time driving. Went back to standard globes. Thanks for the great advice, results are awesome. I'll try again. Cheers.

Thank you.I bought 1156 for my lawntractor headlights,and even as many leds that are on them,it's a whiter light,just not bright enough.The yellow light coming from the standard bulb goes about 4 ft, further.I'll look at the Sylvania options.

A couple of things - first up, I *think* the second set of bulbs you tested are "handed" LED bulbs. One pin goes through a voltage regulator, giving dim light for sidelights, the other pin goes straight to the LED array and has no voltage regulator. If you look at the test footage at 5:30, one bulb is brighter than the other. The dimmer bulb gets brighter when the brake is pressed, while the other bulb stays the same. If you had rotated the brighter bulb 180 degrees and tried again, you might have found they work better. You might want to re-test them? I could be dead wrong, but I've had LED brake bulbs do this for me, and it confusilated me for a while. The other thing is - the white bulbs probably are brighter (or equally bright) but your tail light glass is red. It filters out everything except red light. The rest of the light energy is wasted as heat within the plastic (they'll get a fraction of a degree hotter) when the light goes through the red coloured plastic. This happens with incandescent bulbs as well as LED's. Red LED's only emit wavelengths of light in the red portion of the visible electromagnetic spectrum, which will mostly pass through the red plastic without being wasted as heat. Third - if you've got a paper laminator, cut out circular pieces of aluminium foil with a hole in the middle just big enough to get the bulb through, then laminate them. Cut them out, but be careful to make sure there's no aluminium exposed at the edges (which could cause a short). The whole thing should be covered in lamination plastic. Put them on the bulbs, then put the bulbs in the sockets. Hey presto, reflectors for cheap. I did it for some trailer lights and it improved the light output by about 25%.

That's what I was looking for. simple comparison, get to the point and very helpful. these videos need to be supported. Thank you for the video and for your time.

Good video, I agree with your decision for the red sylvanias. Did you notice when the l.e.d. were side by side with the incandescent bulbs, the reaction time was marginally quicker for brake response?

Dude! Awesome video - great comparison and incredibly helpful when trying to select the proper bulb for a given reflector.

Just bought some Sylvania's for my Toyota Starlet Glanza yesterday without doing research and i'm glad of the results because i ordered them all RED and AMBER. I'll have to change the reverse/license plate lights later on. Thanks a lot for the video!

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

You totally helped me with this. I was on the fence about those sylvania ones. One question. Why did the third set have a brightness difference from the inside to outside bulbs?

Found this while researching switching my 62 to LED.... this made me decide to stay with normal 1157s... even the reds don't look better than the left side in the video to me. Thanks for posting this.

Another thanks for the post- I was having the exact same problem on a trailer I built. Showed exactly what the problem was, and the fixes. BTW, here in 2021, the bulbs you recommend are not on Amazon anymore- just the design from Sylvania that didn't work for your Supra. All of the links go to that model. But seeing what the issue was, and the great explanation was very helpful.

This is exactly the type of video I was looking for. That change between tail light and brake light makes all the difference. That will make or break that mod for me.

I also bought a very similar LED bulb for my front turning lights. I took it out as I noticed that there is little difference between when I use the turning signals. Took them out and replaced them with a more expensive but amazing LED bulbs from VLED.

This is a great video. Thanks. I was looking for this

I'm very impressed with your effort. Thank you!

Thank you so much for posting this test of the different 1157 LED bulbs...I wasn't sure what to purchase until I saw your video. Sorry you spent all that money to do this test but it paid off in the end. And I'm sure you made a lot of people happy at your expense, saving them time and money and you may have saved someone from buying the ones your friend purchased, because I don't believe they are very safe either!! Now I'm going to get me the Sylvania 1157 Red bulbs. God bless you for sharing this...

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

Really wish I had seen this vid before purchasing new LEDs for my '13 Corolla. I'm not sure now if the bulbs I ordered will have the same lighting issues as the first two tests. There was a lot of thought and planning (and money) was put into this video. Glad you found the right bulb in the end.

You're correct. The parking lights should standout when braking IMO. I was also surprised that the red bulbs were btighter than the white leds.

Thanks for testing out the various led’s! I was concerned on the brightness difference when brake light came on and obviously only one worked in your experiment

Dude, youve answered many questions for me! Great video!

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help, thats why i made these videos! thanks!

Thank you for a great comparison, your time and expense is much appreciated.

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Well done. Thanks for using the scientific process and being thorough. This was very helpful.

Tony, thank you for your enlightening research. Well done my friend! Comparing the incandescent beside the various LED you tested, I was disappointed as well. Honestly, with the best Sylvania Red vs the standard OEM incandescent, I did not see enough difference in brightness to justify the extra expense. But again thank you for your great work!...well done and very objective!

Man thank you... The ones I got from a well known online LED supplier did not have significant difference in brightness either and I almost got rear ended by an elderly woman with a lead foot. I just ordered mine.. Thanks for putting your cash into figuring this out for the rest of us. ..A grateful FB owner.

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad I could help and glad you and the car are safe!

You always match the bulb color to the lens color, it's how they're designed. Awesome video and thanks for making this! Always difficult when buying LED bulbs that aren't 194's

I've got a 1974 Jensen Healey that is sorely lacking in the illumination department. You just helped me nail down the brake and marker light choices...next up...finding the best choice for 7" round LED headlights !!

Thank you for the time effort and money spent.

Thanks for buying all these bulbs. They’re so expensive for what they are. You’re awesome

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

6:58 was expected. It would appear that the Sylvania LED bulbs were designed with the idea that most cars use a reflector behind the bulbs, which would then reflect the light towards the red lens.

@Texas_Road_Warrior

5 жыл бұрын

I thought so too... but they’re garbage even in a reflective housing

Good info. Thank you. Merry Christmas!

Thanks for the video & test you a true legend 🙏🏽

That was amazing, thank you for this post.

Thanks for making this, always wondered, but you did the legwork!! Okay, so I keep most of my yodas stock ish, but when the next taillight bulb goes out, I’ll invest in these. 30 years old and I’ve only replaced 1 bulb in the rear! Uhh, taillight housing.

Freddy, the Supra is not dumb... There should be a reflector behind each tail light bulb. They're just missing on yours. I remember seeing them when I had mine and had to replace a bulb. Look it up and try to get them, they'll make a big difference with those Sylvanias.

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

I guess that makes sense, my supra is missing alot of things haha thanks man!

@KK-M5

6 жыл бұрын

Poor Man Mods You're very welcome. Love watching Supra videos by you, even though it makes me miss mine dearly...

@free100x

6 жыл бұрын

I have a 77 Toyota pickup and it has reflectors. Just went to LEDs and used the Zevo red for the brake lights. I also cleaned and polished the lenses real well. But also covered the reflector and panted the tan colored plastic housing gloss white. Remember gloss white reflects the most of the colors. I then plugged the socket holes with a small piece of paper town and cleaned the aluminum reflector, then sprayed it, and the new gloss white painted area, with the 2x gloss clear, to increase the shiny mirror effect.

@guyteigh3375

6 жыл бұрын

@ KK-M5-E39 I have to do a "me too" on that. I had my old MK3 and after having all the mods done (lexus mod, hybrid turbo etc etc), it went for the head to be properly gas flowed and the mechanic (long story short) stole it. Police said they knew he had done it but not QUITE enough proof. Insurance paid out but only a tiny fraction of what the car was worth. Miss the old girl so much.

Fantastic video. You set up the tests beautifully! Great job, PMM!!! Product specifcations and quality DO matter. God bless!

@PoorManMods

Жыл бұрын

thank you!!

Your video is very good and helpful. Thank you for the effort to help others decide on what L.E.D.s to choose as a replacement of incandescent bulbs. 🙂

@PoorManMods

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I'll go with the red Sylvania you have recommended. Thanks.

Thank you for making this video. This really helps on choosing led bulbs for my car!

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you sir, this info helps me a lot. Nothing better than side by side comparison.

@PoorManMods

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Wow. I went down this rabbit hole about 10 years ago with my Datsun 240z, and then a few years back again for my Nissan 300ZX. LED bulbs have come a long way in ten years. Another difficult task was to find an amber front turn LED bulb that was equivalent to the incandescent. I did find them, but, like you, went through several bulbs in the process. But the end result, especially in the decrease of amperage load on the system, is well worth it.Thanks for sharing!

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Most excellent video! Two thumbs up. I think I'll stay with the good 'ol incandescent.

Is a resistor required to prevent hyper flash for all installations? If a vehicle already has LED daytime running lights, is a resistor required or will the system be OK without it? And where is the best location for a resistor if it is needed? Thanks for the information, you answered a lot of questions already.

A man of practical science. I salute you!

@ 14:23 - “ Which one would you pick? I know which one I would pick.” I would pick the incandescents, because it doesn’t look like any of the LEDs you tested were any brighter, in taillight or brake light mode, than the standard incandescent bulbs. The LED reaction time from taillight to brake light is a little quicker, but if the LEDs aren’t brighter, why bother?

@AndyK.1

5 жыл бұрын

cbpitt01 Yeap leds in cars are a pain. Reaction time is the only advantage (and 3rd brake lite can usually do that task). LEDs in cars don’t even last longer than bulbs before they start to flicker and flash. Don’t waste your money guys! Standard is best.

@howiebird9410

5 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that they don't seem to last either. However, lately they have been made with heat sinks which seems to be the problem of all LED chips. They work well but need to vent the heat they generate. I just picked up some 1156 bulbs from Amazon that are designed for RVs and they are really nice quality and bright with a ceramic ring at the base of the bulb making it about 3/8" longer than a standard bulb. $15 CAD for 2 www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B077GVCH56/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thank you for doing this type of testing !

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey Freddy, great video! I can’t wait to put some on mine. One question, did you also spray the driver side housing, or did you only spray the passenger side?

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I only spayed the passenger side with chrome since I saw no measurable gain from it.

@gearheadgarage6156

6 жыл бұрын

Poor Man Mods totally understood! Just wanted to make sure. Thanks!

You can still use the white ones, just put them in the reverse lamps. Then look for Amber ones for the turn signals and add an LED compatible flasher relay to counter hyper blinking.

Well done buddy, very informative video. Was having the same issue as your mate with not enough difference between normal rear running lights and brake lights, when pedal was pressed. Will look at these bulbs myself now. Cheers from down-under!

I wonder how the red rear facing super bright would do in later model reflective tail lights and all the bulbs in reflective tail lights for that matter

Many thanks. Definitely the best testing I've seen.

@PoorManMods

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The issue with bulbs that share the same chips for parking and brake light is that often they interfere with the cruise control when the parking lights are on. That's because the chips are shared and there is voltage in the brake light circuit, tricking the computer into "thinking" that you're pressing the brakes. Found that out the hard way on my Elantra. I wonder if those sylvania bulbs would have the same issue? I wouldn't think so, but maybe you have a shot showing only the other two chips light up when you press the brake (while the parking lights are off)? That would show for sure whether or not any chips are shared.

I agree that is playing with fire having the first and second bulb. But I would add some custom made reflector. The white ones are not brighter because the red lens filtered the white light reducing the amount of light visible while the red bulb had a red filter that did not filter any light making it brighter.

Thanks for the video, LED blub are hard to choose since they are so many of them out there.

What a great product review, one of the best on you-who tube and I love my power probe also!!

Hi. Did you made any adjustments on the electric system, while using the LED instead of incandescent light bulbs?

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Nope

@4everyoung16

5 жыл бұрын

You don't need a resistor on the brakes, but you will need a resistor on the turn signal, otherwise you will get hyper flashing.

when you tested the 2nd set of LED bulbs, you were comparing them to 2 incandescent bulbs on the driver side lighting up when she hit the brakes, vs only the one (outside) LED bulb on the passenger side actually lighting up when they hit the brake peddle..

Nice video man. I agree with your hypothesis in terms of the different between idle and break light! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@PoorManMods

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks man ! Great video I was trying to explain this to someone now I have a video to just make him watch

I like the red one to. Thank for doing all the work, I have been trying to decide which LED for my tail lights on my MX5 MK3 NC.

Outstanding video, your the best Thanks for making this video I have the same problem with 1157 led witch one to buy

Helped me a whole bunch! Thank you! Got a 1965 Galaxie and a 1963 Fairlane Ranch wagon that will be getting LED upgrades.

Thanks for all the good info

I got red LEDs a few years back and they were supper dim. This blew my mind at the end.

Very helpful video, thank you for posting.

Thanks for the info, I’ll pick those up for my Supra.

Thanks for sharing, and spending on our behalf lol. Good though, cool playin around with all the options even if its the the right one right off the mark, no fun in that. Also jealous of the size of your garage 😂

Yeah, about that housing. I tested red LED bulbs in my Harley which has a chrome reflector surface. The LEDs each produce a point light source with parallel beams of light. When these beams reflect off of the chrome surface it's still a point of light that's been reflected. So I created a white reflective surface by installing self adhesive vinyl sheet. This was more effective as a reflector because it diffused the beams as it reflected them into the lens, thereby lighting up the entire lens, not just a single point on it. The lens then directs the light to the desired target. They're now a lot more visible. Also, I installed a unit that flashes the brake lights causing an attention getter.

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Oh nice thats awesome!

This was a long review, but yet so helpful! Thanks a ton

@PoorManMods

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great review, thanks!

Very helpful video. Thanks a lot for this interesting test!

@PoorManMods

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

hey what i need to know is does it show the switch from park to break /?

I use the backward facing Sylvanias. It's weird next to the halogens because where the halogens have kind of a hot spot in the middle of the lake on the MR2 it now has kind of a shadow. Thanks for sharing your findings. I'll be going back to incandescent for brake lights.

I had a similar problem with putting LEDs in for brake lights, it was barely noticable when I hit the brakes

Never would have thought, another great video

@PoorManMods

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

What type of LED bulb do you recommend for the front turn signals on the MK3 Supra with clear singal lens.

Best video I have seen yet on the subject.

@PoorManMods

2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Great video! But why not still use the first bulb and have it setup where only have one bulb is lite for running and 2 bulbs for brake?

Great video! I have an 01 lincoln Town car and others have had to put load resistors in for the blinkers in the tail lights. How do your blinkers or flashers work with those? I like the red BTW. Thanks

Just subscribed and liked. Thank you brother for sharing !

Do they last like the incandescent bulb ?

Great experiment! With your last test between the red vs white I think the white could have won if you didn't spray the housing on the right chrome/silver.

Excellent video! Thank you!

@PoorManMods

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!