Finally trying out my 15th century armour
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I used my armour for the first time at the re-enactment of the Battle of Tewkesbury. Here I talk about the final bits of preparation, and the various issues I encountered in the fray.
Thank you to Kathleen Joie for the kind permission to use her footage of the battle. To see her complete video: • Tewkesbury Medieval Fe...
Photograph of the Duke of Gloucester's bodyguard by Alex Pocklington.
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It was great having you there, Lloyd. Let's do it again 🙂
@scholagladiatoria
Жыл бұрын
360p wow. It's like Early Beige, when I was still at school.
@FirstLast-wk3kc
Жыл бұрын
Great to see you all together
@RULERofSTARS
Жыл бұрын
Nice of you to christen his armour propperly, that dent makes it 100% more authentic ;)
@LastRightsZero
Жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria 🦆🏳️🤜🤛🙋♂️🧐💾!!!!
@Oxnate
Жыл бұрын
Only if you catch the berk who dented his shiny.
I demand a video where Mr. Lloyd travels to France with this armor and a band of not-so-merry men to ransack towns, burn crops, and force their men-at-arms from their castles into a field engagement. No, I am not getting my time periods mixed up.
@davey1602
Жыл бұрын
Just your average Englishman's holiday to the Loire then?
@snepping1885
Жыл бұрын
BASED
@SuperFunkmachine
Жыл бұрын
one day when the French are finished on the castle, we'll be really.
@somethingelse4424
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.
@somethingelse4424
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.
Bloke I worked with about 30 years ago did medieval reenactment, he was a viking raider and met his wife at one show She was playing a medieval peasant who's village was under attack and in the heat of the moment she grabbed a piece of timber and caught him squarely in the crown jewels sending him sprawling with crossed eyes One year later they were married and had a couple of kids Always thought it was a rather romantic tale
@davidpnewton
Жыл бұрын
Other than twins how on earth would they accomplish "a couple" of children in a year?!
@WolfingtonStanley
Жыл бұрын
@@davidpnewton I meant to add a comma and put "have" instead of "had"
@bobmiller7502
Жыл бұрын
@@davidpnewton come on now Dave, Really, uuum
@myparceltape1169
Жыл бұрын
She saw what she wanted and went for it.
@JohnMiller-zr8pl
Жыл бұрын
Almost accurate end to that.
I think we made an impressive looking bodyguard between you, Matt, Zac and myself 😀
@josephhward3288
Жыл бұрын
Lord drac praise the algorithm and lindy great day 🙌
@reginaldbentworth9159
Жыл бұрын
Knew that was you in the thumbnail
@theofficerfactory2625
Жыл бұрын
The naval historian was there? Most of all, commenting here? What a blessed day!
@sergarlantyrell7847
Жыл бұрын
I thought I recognised that beard!
Hi from a French medieval reenactor. When I am on the field, I always have a can of WD40 and I use the spray right after I used the armour. It helps a lot to prevent corrosion!
@tikkidaddy
Жыл бұрын
If applied quickly WD40 will work for that purpose as it is a "Water Displacement fluid, the 40th version" that was tested. I use it for a bunch of things but I wipe stuff down after and apply Seafoam DEEP CREEP.. About the same price and a far better lubricant
@TheCraziestFox
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. The deodorant of choice for most armored reenactors. :D
@glenngriffon8032
Жыл бұрын
I find the image of a knight in full armor spraying himself with WD40 to be hilarious.
@TheCraziestFox
Жыл бұрын
@@glenngriffon8032 Don't be ridiculous. A knight in full armor wouldn't do that. That's what the squire is for.
@wheressteve
Жыл бұрын
Who doesn't enjoy the smell of roast mutton and WD-40 in the morning.
Don't get old!!! I'm in my 70s; a back injury from my youth has come back to haunt me, and I have to go through similar contortions (without armour) just to get out of bed ! Getting down is easy (think gravity) but getting up is almost impossible !
@bobmiller7502
Жыл бұрын
join the club brother, better than not getting old, its the noises that make me laugh, with almost every movement
@googleuser3163
Жыл бұрын
im 6
The feeling of being slow is one of the reasons training in armor was so important. If you wear it often enough, you can run pretty damn quickly in it. There’s a video of Toby Capwell running full tilt in armor.
This really is the conclusion of an epic saga. I've been waiting years and years ever since the original video of Lloyd explaining how he was finally get armor made, and now we finally get to see him triumphantly don the complete kit in all its glory!
>posted 17 seconds ago >comments already praising how good this 1hr long video is
@pellelindtner3488
Жыл бұрын
they just watched it at 200x times speed
Heavy sweating on the forearms is pretty common whenever you remove any contact with the air. You can see it for instance after you get forearm tattoos done and they wrap your forearm in clingfilm after the session to protect it, they sweat like CRAZY.
@livedandletdie
Жыл бұрын
The problem is not removal of air, it's that you trap heat next to your skin. However that would be a good thing in wintertime. You can wear armor in the winter, and it won't be that cold. Well the armor will be cold, but if you have good enough clothes beneath the armor, it will insulate you from the outside weather, and since air is a really good insulator armor won't really get that cool, and the things you should worry about is contact surfaces, such as the ground and anything you grab hold of.
@InShortSight
Жыл бұрын
In heatstroke weather run water over your forearms or wear/hang a wet cloth or kerchief there for a quick bit of relaxation. Cant so easily do that wearing armor of course. There's alot of blood and veins there near the surface of your skin, very little fat or muscle insulating them.
@Gillsing
Жыл бұрын
When it's really hot and I have a drink of cold water, my forearms is where it first comes out. Feels kind of useless to drink if all it's going to pour out and run down to my hands, which I usually want to use for touching a keyboard or screen.
@RedmondBarryII
7 ай бұрын
This always reminds me of watching mythbusters as a kid, showing thermals while exercising, how the limbs disperse heat.
It's really lovely your father and brother were there to see you fight. Definitely need to design a heraldic surcoat for yourself though!
@perniciouspete4986
Жыл бұрын
Let's see, now, perhaps a man in a tuxedo doing the Lindy Hop against a background of, yes, you guessed it: beige.
@edevans5991
Жыл бұрын
Well it should be beige, I'm sure.
@theofficerfactory2625
Жыл бұрын
Books behind held by a dragon? With the main color being beige?
@DJRockford83
Жыл бұрын
Just plain beige 👌🏻
@briggsbughouses6291
Жыл бұрын
@@perniciouspete4986 A tuxedo'd Lindy rampant on a beige background?
Haha Lucy sounds like a champ, love how eccentric a lot of the crafts people can be, you got to be a bit mad to get into it in the first place. Never a dull day when talking with them and not the first time I've heard of a 'nope these will not do for you so you can't have them' Last time I had it I just went with they 'sure, I'll go with your recommendation then' And I was very happy with the result it was flawless ^^
Two videos not even a week apart? You’re too kind, Lloyd.
@loso8381
Жыл бұрын
And they're both over half an hour too!
@googleuser3163
Жыл бұрын
Hello comrade
The discolouration was probable due to Oxalic acid in the grass and weeds. Still, it creates a good rust inhibiting surface.
On adventurers and plate armour, something I really liked in SM Stirling's Emberverse fantasy series is that the band of questing heroes do *have* sets of full plate (and lances for mounted fighting), but they stay on the packhorses or at the latest hideout/friendly settlement and only get put on when there's a pitched battle and a fair bit of time to prepare for it.
That sounds like an interesting train ride from a spectator perspective.
Having lived in Tewkesbury, I can totally appreciate the faff of getting to and from the station.
@chrisp4170
Жыл бұрын
That was probably what b*ggered things up for the Lancastrians too…
This is like baby's first steps. First steps into BATTLE! But seriously, congrats on getting your new spiffy armor out on the field.
@sterlingcampbell2116
Жыл бұрын
*cough*reenactment
The reenactment was amazing to watch, kudos to all the men and women who endured that hot July day in armour! My mate and I wondered If we'd spot you on the field but it turned out we were watching from the Lancastrian side!
@DTavona
Жыл бұрын
Oops! LOL!
Lloyd Use Rennaisance wax. It's cheap and wont come off like oils. It also preserves your leather parts.
@jasonrogers8360
Жыл бұрын
I use two approaches that have worked very well. If I'm using armour more regularly I'll only use a light coat of mineral oil and keep it stored in towels. If I'm putting it away for more than a month I'll give use renaissance wax and throw in a few moisture absorbing packs. Works excellently and does a great job avoiding excess maintenance.
There is a reason that I like composite safety-toe boots on the job. Just the difference in weight between a small piece of steel and a small piece of very tough composite has a VERY big difference. I can't imagine just how bad full steel sabatons must be, let alone the rest of the kit. Also, Lloyd. That looks like a Makita cordless drill you're using there, which I actually use on the job. Some of the best tools I've found. Glad that they're usefull in more historical aspects. I can only imagine how much an armorour of old would have enjoyed them. Anyways, tangents aside, great video, Lloyd! Keep them coming, if you'd be so kind!
Can't wait to watch, congratulations on the achievement! Huge progress for the lindybeige campaign!
Great to fight alongside you there at my own first re-enactment battle! Glad you got your points sorted out. Something really strange I noticed as a lightly armoured billman, it that despite being really hot in my padded jack and repeatedly having water poured down my bevor, at the end of the battle I was completely dry... I can only imagine all the moisture evaporated! Regarding other battles, believe the season is over now, but you should look for a group who is part of the Wars of the Roses Federation to join and that will keep you in the loop.
Those creases look great. Thanks for the update. I image many period wearers of armour had similar problems.
Youre a swell fellow and I've watched you for a decade, cheers mate
The ghosts of that battle must be so confused when you guys do this
@alfieburns9019
Жыл бұрын
“No no no no, they’re doing it completely wrong! Duke Richard was never stood here! And look at this man’s armour, completely wrong!”
Love the videos so educational always a pleasure to see you Lindybeige as well
Thank you for dozens of fascinating insights as to what it was like for those in knightly battle.
Imagine you’re on the train and you see lindybeige sewing his sheepskin
Welcome back to us Good sir knight! A blooded knight at last.A bodyguard to a royal the first time ? I am dully impressed. 16:06 There was an old thunderf00t video,where he used an infrared camera on himself. Turns out, human forearms are heat sinks and evaporation points. You had yours covered ,so sweat gathering there , trying to evaporate, makes sense. What is this ? No colours , no heraldry, a man of your stature? Something must be done about it.It is not proper, to fight anonymously like a common armsman. How will your peers know of your prowess, with no device? No this will simply not do. Not to worry, rest and repair for now, autumn is not much of a campaigning season. Rest, refit, train. Come spring , England will know of you.
@rmsgrey
Жыл бұрын
My hypothesis is that the human body adapts to sweat more where it's less frequently covered - which is commonly the forearms and possibly parts of the leg.
Always a joy. Thank you
I really appreciate the detailed thoughts on the armor and reenactment. That was really interesting.
It's too bad that ColdWarMotors youtube channel guy is all the way across the world from you in Canadia, because man, his skill level at repairing car dents is insanely high while at the same time being super nice and humble. I bet he could make you forget that chest plate dent was ever there if you gave him 20 minutes with that piece. What a delight it is to watch him work. Removing dents from metal is such an art and he really understands it more than I think anybody else that I've seen repair dents on video. His shack side "quick and dirty" fixes are better than most professional body shops that I've seen.
I used to go to those re-enactments every summer when I lived in the area. Fantastic event!
I subscribed to this channel whilst I was still in secondary school. It is one of very few decisions from that period I can still stand behind.
Lindy at his very best , listen to him talk for hours
So it is done! What a thing. Lindybeige's medievally stuff is really some of the best.
1st time I fell over in my harness I did it by mistake and rolled down as small slope in to a ditch. After that a lot of the worry about falling over in it went.
Keep it up Lindy! Love your content on armor, really insightful to issues a knight might face with armor lmao
Yay! I'm glad it worked out as well as it did! Communication is a trouble and I can understand that. It's nice to know what the practical expereince says.
I am well pleased to see more armor updates.
Nice to see the fruits of your labor.
On the question of D&D parties not wanting to wear plate, your closest comparison is probably live role-playing, where people do run around doing lots of silly things in all sorts of kit. I've crawled through horribly tight spaces in a plate harness - admittedly, it would have been somewhat easier without it, but then again it was quite nice not having to worry about what might jump out and attack my legs while my arms and head were in a different corridor, so I was glad to have it on.
Fantastic video like always lindy
The reenactment is very near the battlefield - but not actually on the field. I did the battlefield tour a few weeks ago - and you walk through the actual battlefield from the car park! Amazing to think those hedges were there all those years ago. Well worth taking the tour - it’s free too
Well done. I’ve watched the channel of the battle. It looks good. Bringing history to life. I’m hoping teachers show it to students. Making history lessons exciting like an action film. This big kid loves it.
"Any complaints about your leg armour?" "Well ... no greavances."
"Something that happened during a fight" I suspect it was Lindy's massive enthusiasm.
great to see you actually getting to use the suit. well done! I'm always surprised how much of a one-man band you are.
LYOooooiiidd! miseed you man, glad to see you posting!
Cool. I was waiting for this.
I've been waiting for this since day 1. damn it's been a while, cool armor
Great video! I think I saw you wandering around Newcastle not too long ago, little bit crazy seeing you in the flesh after watching you for years!
Thanks for the awesome content!
Just an idea for a short future video -> while reading some legends about Cú Chulainn, an Irish mythical warrior, there was a point that sparked an interest when Cú was put out of a battle rage by cooling him in vats of water. So, seems like there were prepared vats of water behind battle lines at least since Irish mythic age. :) You spoke about water deliveries, that I suppose organised army had to function. Maybe a topic worth a dedicated reflexion?.. based on personal experience.
@jackodonail1980
Жыл бұрын
They did not cool him to subdue his battle-rage, but boiled it out of him.
@vincencures
Жыл бұрын
@@jackodonail1980 ... yea, three vats he boiled away before he calmed down, or something like that. Thank You for pointing it out. Cú must have been a real fun to be around when had his moods. :)
18:09 he must’ve hit your collarbone! RIP medieval Lloyd.
Still waiting for video where Lloyd walks around town and performs everyday tasks, wearing his armour =)
Lloyd you've truly surpassed yourself this time - congrats, that man! :)
10:28 I'd imagine the point of it being vegan is not so much that it has "meat" in it as it is that it basically doesn't use any animal by-products, therefore no animals were harmed/abused or whatever in the production of it.
Congratulations on your deed of arms! It is so good to finally see you fight in your armour after all the trials and tribulations, and great to hear your review of how every piece worked. I'm guessing that is Matt in the black armour, to your left, in the picture of the body guards?
Another great video, Lindybeige. Myself & my family were at the Battle on the first day and it was so boiling hot that when we left, a bit early, we saw a horseman collapse off his horse at their horse-carrying van & a knight running back to his tent because he said said his suit was still cooking him! (A lithe man) Phew!
That wasn't a fall ! Carefully lowered. 😆
Lindy just talks, and I love listening to him, whatever he has to say
I enjoyed your comments on "Armor Skill" as is might apply to RPGs. Not only is there the technical knowledge of fitting, adjusting and donning armor, but the basic exercise of wearing it: walking, running, fighting and using the bathroom... Just wearing it can be a great workout. I used to put my kit on to mow the lawn just to get used to it. And then, as you describe: maintenance. Sergeants spend most of their time teaching their recruits Attention to Detail! While not a fan of "white-glove inspections", they can be used as an indication to that attention to detail.
Well done, a great example of living history.
This chap is totally bonkers but totally thrilling to listen to. Amazing stuff
That looked like fun, and more importantly, you had fun. Glad the armours working out well. Will be great to see more of you in action next time!
If there is one thing good about our time, it is the love and appreciation of history by the reenactment groups.
Having fallen off a low (about four metres) castle wall in pitch black darkness while wearing plastic, LARP plate armour I can confirm that armour can be VERY useful at spreading the impact out. Also having fallen over on rocks wearing maille that also helps a lot to reduce the damage.
Damn, imagine if there was a drone camera for the whole battle!
Great to have you there! :D
Strange as it sounds, hearing this makes me appreciate modern armor a lot more than I did before. I didn’t need an arming doublet; the plate carrier performs that role. I didn’t need a squire to get in or out of my armor. I didn’t have any issues with mobility due to the armor physically stopping movement. There’s a wonderful degree of segmentation between a front and back plate and side plates. There’s also a large degree of standardization between manufacturers. If you can use one company’s armor, you can use another.
@GaiusCaligula234
11 ай бұрын
But also modern armour is a fair bit less effective than that armour was against its contemporaries
An hour long video? From Lindybeige? For a weekend viewing? Huzzah!
Not historical but you may be able to add a strong magnet inset into the back of the strap, then it will stay down without altering the look when wearing
Thanks for the video 😊
On the sweaty elbows: you had 2 layers of reasonably close fitting steel there ending in a leather glove. Nowhere at all for the moisture to escape at all.
That exposed piece of the hand is where we often get injured in our competetive reenactment fights. Oh! I see Alex 😀
I've been waiting for this!
Forearms r the bodys heat sink - heat exchange area. Pretty much the whole skin sweats. When your radiators r overheating, they need to be water-cooled. Your forearms were sweaty to keep u cool >and then nick notices his fellow knight in trouble, so he breaks the line in order to help him. Awkwardly walking over, radiating mr. bean energy
I fear for the 'Beige's foes. Flee yee!! Flee from the 'Beige!!!
Very interesting video. Armour seems so simple until you learn how complex and complicated it actually is.
When I died at Evesham, I found it a bit difficult getting up because of the weight of the helmet.
Greetings from Frankonia! Very very good video! Danke schön!
Oh a very fun video! Love the wars of the roses
Great. I've been waiting for this video
you realise that these people went through this type of problems back in the ages of this type of armour. Absolutely mental
Well, if you like to visit some beautiful castle in Czech Republic (possibly in your Armor), you are welcome in Vízmburk, which was called Pompeii of Czech Republic. Check it out. I am a castle keeper there (and a fan of yours). Cheers.
The brief battle pics just reminds me of 'get on with it!!' MP🤣😂😂
Looks like a smashing good time, you've earned a flagon of Ale good sir! That armor is just awesome, quirks aside. Cheers!
I enjoyed thi spresentation it was informative thank you. My daughter is a fencer and can often end up very bruised depending on who her aponent is.
I've traveled the length of the UK on trains more times than I can remember and I am yet to see a man taking up an entire booth and sowing armour bits together
I was just listening to some of your videos during a late night walk by the Thames
Slowly watching you become a knight has been quite the delight.
loved the end
@fritz404
Жыл бұрын
you watched this in 60x speed??
Tis good to see that the fog of war is still active, even with reenactments!
Armour that has seen some real action is the best armour! Cherish the dinks, dents and scratches! Terrific video.
Awesome!
if your tassit buckles had an extra loop at the bottom it would probably help. 2 bar buckle is the simplest solution imo- the leather will be prevented from lifting, with the second bar acting as a flexing point.
Just a regular busy working class man of today, not earning much but still learning much.
This is legendary.