Sorry guys, looks like the tail-end of this video was cut off. It was 98% finished anyway so we’ll keep it! Let me know your honest thoughts of this First Edition… do you think it’s worth $77K?

@davidcirincione4441

13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately most of these new vehicles are not affordable to the blue collar working American. Hard pass on these new Tundra’s, Tacoma’s, Landcruisers, etc. The 2025 4Runners look great, but they are not going to be affordable either. Such a shame!

@RunRideHikeThrive

13 күн бұрын

Indeed, wages out of Wack, Inflation, +$5 fuel ⛽ in California, Debt through the Moon... Patience and these Manufacturers will find out... Prices 👇

@aarsenalfan

13 күн бұрын

It's worth about $47K OTD. 🤔

@nathandeparis9852

13 күн бұрын

the 1958 is 60k so 17k more for what im not-sure, the tires are for emissions that's why they are not All terrain . It's worth 45K IMHO. Plus the engine is hauling to big a a car. its third row cup holders are becaude they literally plunked the GX body which does have a third row on it.

@emb647

13 күн бұрын

More broken ass prices for garbage....every single corporate mantra. Charge WILD prices, and deliver shit. What a dumpster fire.

$77K, no f in way

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Tough pill to swallow for a 4 cylinder hybrid… =\

@brianskelton935

4 күн бұрын

The stealership by me had one with “off-road tires,” PPF and ceramic coating for $90k. 😂

$77k for any 4 banger is a hard pass.

@itshadouken

13 күн бұрын

I don't mind the 4 banger, but the small size, lack of tailgate, and no 3rd row make it useless for my family. Sticking w the LC200 for now. Would love the MPG of this vs the LC200 tho.

@asajayunknown6290

13 күн бұрын

The 4cyl engines, especially the ones built in Japan, can be bulletproof, for 300-500k miles. But not with a turbo, or hybrid. We'll see. I doubt the longevity. But $80k? Absolutely NOT. I passed one of these the other day driving down the interstate. Was amazed how tiny it was. Tiny. No thanks.

@pabss3193

13 күн бұрын

Audi...

@HiPlains1

13 күн бұрын

@@itshadouken Dude that LC200 will outlive you. What do you mean stick with it for now lol. Its ain't going anywhere and will still be kicking when your 6 feet under. Facts. That beast will outlive human life. I don't have to tell you that.

@itshadouken

13 күн бұрын

@@HiPlains1 haha okay we shall see, wouldn’t mind better than 12mpg when gas prices are only going up and up

Sadly, the Tacoma has been such a complete disappointment that I’m kind of just soured on Toyota in general at the moment. I was excited for the Tacoma and the Land Cruiser, and I’m one of the very few customers that was eyeing them both.. now I’m likely eyeing neither of them just because I don’t think Toyota deserves my money right now. I’m not going to incentivize their behavior by buying one of their more premium products in the lineup. I think they need a wake up call, and if that means me sitting out this new generation Tacoma and Land Cruiser then so be it.

@MarckySportsDenver

14 күн бұрын

Their behavior 😂😂😂 you can thank the government for these changes. You really think Toyota wanted to go this route?

@ChrisDavis333

14 күн бұрын

@@MarckySportsDenver I do. There’s ways of getting your emissions credits, I think they seen it as an opportunity to increase prices, and keep people in their service centers where only their mechanics can work on your vehicle. Parts/Service centers are a large component to selling new vehicles. Trump is going to be elected in 5 1/2 months, he’s going to cut regulations, toss out the green new scam, and then what? We have a bunch of unreliable 4 cylinders that nobody wanted. There’s all kinds of V8 trucks and SUV’s still being produced, how are they doing it but Toyota can’t even do a V-6? You’re telling me the government made Toyota cram a 4 cylinder in their entire lineup? Give me a break. Toyota is greedy. What does moving manufacturing of the Tacoma entirely to Mexico do? Allows them to produce the truck for pennies on the dollar. What does cramming the same exact 4 cylinder engine into every new vehicle in their lineup do? Allows them to produce a single engine instead of several different ones, while getting tax credits for hybrids, and increasing the MSRP by an obligatory 30%. Why do the Tahoe, Escalade, Yukon, F-150, all still have V-8’s? Aren’t they outlawed? We can go down to the V6 but those exist in literally every lineup of every manufacturer in the US, so we know those aren’t illegal. So why did Toyota have to pass that step and go beyond every other manufacturer? The truth is they didn’t have to, they weren’t forced, were not even talking about V8’s here were talking about V6’s.. you can’t tell me they couldn’t have put naturally aspirated V6’s, they chose not to.

@icosthop9998

13 күн бұрын

​. Yes ❕️ Toyota Love to jump on the USA, European mandate. Saves them money and an gives them an excuse to force on their customers only the V6 motor for the Tundra and only the V4 motor for the Tacomas. Nissan still makes the V6 for the Frontier.

@davidwethington9320

13 күн бұрын

Better watch your back. Fanboys will come for you.

@BabakPA

13 күн бұрын

@@MarckySportsDenverwhat a dumb comment! I guess they made these overpriced new lineup for fools like you!

I’m disappointed Toyota couldn’t fit more hoses on that engine.

@johnoneal7057

13 күн бұрын

they must be trying to replicate my 60 haha

@LivingRetirement

13 күн бұрын

What a feast for mice!!!

@faheemabbas3965

13 күн бұрын

The thing is, all Prados iirc have had four cylinders internationally.

@matriximaster

6 күн бұрын

Call your congressman.

Can’t believe these words are coming out of my mouth. Im not a fan of this Landcruiser. Way too much money for what you get Untamed.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

I’m with you. I think I’d snag another 200 series Land Cruiser heritage edition before nabbing one of these new ones.

@mikeyID

13 күн бұрын

@@UntamedMotors That’s the one to have 👍🏼

Did the designer of the Bronco sport work for Toyota?

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Haha 😂 sick burn. But in all seriousness, Mrs Untamed said the same thing when she first saw it. Said it looked so much like the Bronco.

28:33 …HoLy spaghetti junction Batman! That engine bay looks like a bowl of Ramen noodles!!! 😳

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Haha definitely busy! A mechanics nightmare haha

Built in Japan instills confidence. The 4 cyl/ turbo/hybrid instills concern of the long term reliability and post warranty service costs. If this vehicle had a 6cyl /turbo I'd be at 100% in on getting one but $80k for the current 4cyl engine setup is an easy NOPE. The hype for this suv will be short lived and will sit on lots until discounted big time. I mean since when do dealerships allow test drives of 1st edition, just arrived models. These were supposed to be pre-sold. Also Toyota is currently running a lease where you get $1500 towards a lease for this suv. The writing is on the wall already. Also, can people stop with the "its the guuberments fault" BS; how come Nissan, Honda and Kia all have 2024/2025 suv models with V6 engines in them. No turbos and no hybrid crap attached.

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

I can’t find one of these available anywhere tbh. Dunno where you’re seeing them being offered as leases with a discount but not in west coast for me. A few got ordered and not picked up but had people snatch those up immediately

@Yul-Uhlu

13 күн бұрын

It should be on Toyota website for the lease options. Also, someone posted a youtube video about the lease with website proof that its valid. Heres the link, disregard the video title. The LC lease info will be the first thing he goes over. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Ciz8msn9fHe8Y.htmlfeature=shared

@donaltemus3565

13 күн бұрын

Toyota has made a vehicle that last much longer than all their competitors. They also see how much money the other manufacturers make in mx cost over the life of a vehicle. They know very well the mx cost over the life of these new trash cans will be much higher than previous gens. If this thing came with small V8 I’d be interested in at least looking at it. Toyota simply does not care about the consumer anymore, at least an educated one. But most Americans are fairly inept and will buy what’s popular cause it has stupid tech crap that doesn’t mater.

@donaldist7321

13 күн бұрын

in the rest of the world, you will get a big diesel. They will also offer that here once the global worming bs is gone

@JokerG16

13 күн бұрын

That’s what i’m trying to figure out too. I’m a nissan fan, and i know that they built the VQ engine to be more efficient, which is great. I’m sure the other manufacturers did the same thing. That’s why i’m confused as to why ‘Yota didn’t do the same, instead of dropping the engines altogether for this hybrid garbage. Hell, GM is still keeping their V8s why, didn’t Toyota do the same?

Way too expensive for what it is. So many other choices out there. And all the fan boys will scream reliability when they change cars more than underwear. People need to get off the creature comforts and start wanting real off-road features and simplicity.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yeah this is a tough pill to swallow… hard to justify for sure.

Toyota is doing fine overseas, it's the American market that is devolving, due to what they think we want here. I'm an old school FJ-40 owner, had 2 of them from 1977-98. Drive a GX470 now since I'm old, retired and enjoy the nice ride and reliability while living out in the mtn's of Wyoming. All this new electronic crap is lost on me though, yet the average buyer wants the newest dashboard entertainment system, not a LandCruiser. I'd rather have a new Troopy. Most new buyers want what's popular, not what's reliable and bulletproof because they'll be turning it over in a year or 3 for the next new popular toy. So we're seeing our trusty old off-road rigs turning into mall crawlers, to meet the market demand. And nobody cares what it costs either.

@J.Young808

14 күн бұрын

Yes bring us the LC 79!!!

@wyomarine6341

14 күн бұрын

@@J.Young808 Can you imagine what they'd charge for a diesel 79 series here? Instead of a utility 4x4 we'd pay for a collectors item. They couldn't build an old FJ-40 without screwing it up today. I'm not talking about the excellent Japanese auto plant, but rather American marketing/dealers.

@wrtyasd099

13 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@itshadouken

13 күн бұрын

I don't think they are unreliable. My wife's Rav4 Hybrid has all the electronics and still runs like new w 300,000 miles on it (just oil, tires and brake pads). All the data actually suggest the 4cylinder hybrids from Toyota are very reliable. They've been in many cars going back to 2008. We had a Prius before the Rav4 that also never a single issue and had over 260,000 miles when we sold it to an Uber driver who has now taken it to 410,000 miles with still no issues, he recently sent us a photo of his dash for fun...

@SLHJR0390

13 күн бұрын

no one understands why we are picking up a 24 Runner TRD Off Road Premium on Saturday morning. for all of the reasons you listed above.

So glad you got your hands on the new LC and made this video. I bought a new 5th gen 4Runner Trail in 2011, and over the course of my years of routine service visits I obsessed over the Land Cruisers occasionally displayed in the dealer showroom. In November 2020 I finally bought a 2018 CPO 200 series, and now after 3 1/2 years and 55,000 miles in the driver's seat I still feel the same awe as I did with the first door close and turn of the steering wheel. The new "250" doesn't even begin to stir any amount of desire. It even falls way short (to me) of the value offered by the prior 150 version we can get in a GX460, which a 2021 CPO just joined the 2018 200 in my garage at about half the price of that 250. Keep up the honest and balanced reviews. I'm always excited when I see you post new content.

@michaelbardis

9 күн бұрын

Same, I'll be driving my 200 till she dies.

I think I would have to agree with your overall opinion on this new generation model! Your first “bleeped words “ say it all! It does look nice! Much of what you remarked about this new model I agree with you 110% on! I think you’re 100% right on waiting for up to 2 years before buying this new model so that Toyota can get every kink worked out! Well spoken Sir I tend to agree! I appreciate your honesty and quality videos! Mark in Iowa.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Thanks Mark, I really appreciate the kind feedback and support. Thank you. 🙏

Excellent review! I liked how you compared it to the 200 Series LC. Keep up the great content.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Thanks a ton man =]

One large benefit of this particular powertrain is that it gives close to perfect 50/50 f/r weight distribution. This fact is rarely mentioned but really benefits the vehicle's driving dynamics.

Hybrid on a 4x4? I'd be scared to toast an electric motor wheeling in the swamp. I'm gonna give it a nope.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yeah that’s a lot of wiring to be rolling through a river or creek… idk 🤷‍♂️

@dvader3263

5 күн бұрын

Electric motors work completely under water with no air. Internal combustion engines don't. Electric pond pumps, electric boat motors, pool pumps, well pumps, agriculture pumps, and millions of other electric pumps under water, exposed to water or pumping water every day.

Love unfiltered raw reviews that are honest

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

I really appreciate that feedback man, thank you. 🙏

Sat in this at my local dealer, was even the same color. I liked it but didn’t love it. I wasn’t overly impressed but it was kinda what I expected. The dealer sold it the next morning for 84k, with their little add ons and mark-up. At that point it would be a hard no for me.

@JokerG16

13 күн бұрын

the fact that they sold this for the same price as a 200 series yrs ago is INSANE.

@ssing7113

12 күн бұрын

That’s robbery only they walked in willingly and signed without force 😂

The 4 runner is gonna be a flop too, these new generation because of regulations are the worst

@manoloprpr

13 күн бұрын

The market target is new brand buyers who use to hear family praise the reliability of the Toyotas of the past.

@faheemabbas3965

13 күн бұрын

@@manoloprprand this is why a monopoly of reliability is the worst thing to happen to the auto market. Other carmakers need to improve their reliability, otherwise I see myself buying used cars instead of new Toyotas. New Mazdas look kinda nice to me though…

I'm so happy, I'll get me a used one in 10 years. 🍻

@noctilucent7396

13 күн бұрын

Me too bud, congratulations to the both of us

@gaffle7646

13 күн бұрын

Better insure those turbos and their waste-gate concerns have been addressed b4 you buy…

@manoloprpr

13 күн бұрын

@@gaffle7646 by then the battery would give you no issues, like none 🤣

great review!!.

Could you tell me if the front Differential is all Aluminum

Looking @ ‘21 Tundra SR 5 w/ 10k miles on it. Super clean, any thought on for what amount that should sell?

what's the reason for the straps around the mudflaps? would they slap into the tires otherwise?

Knobs for sure. Appreciate your video on the this LC. Your meticulous nature shines on this video. Best review for the new Cruiser imo

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Really appreciate that kind feedback man, thank you! 🙏

As always. Very informative. I still have a 2007 Yaris as my little back up car. Talk about plain Jane. Nice interior

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Thanks a ton 🙏 Simplicity is good, simplicity ages well. 💪

@lucydoyle9010

13 күн бұрын

@@UntamedMotors all 3 of my kids drove it in high school. It has 137,000 miles and all I’ve ever done is change the oil and tires. My dog car. Kinda like a golf cart I love your honesty.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

@@lucydoyle9010 Thank you, that’s awesome. That’s a Toyota staying true to form, living up to their reputation. Not so sure we’ll get the same level of peace of mind out of these news ones here. Time will tell, I suppose! 👍

I’m beyond happy that I bought one of the last gx 460s loaded with the off road package.

It's a nice looking ride. I would dread trying to buy right now. Interest rates, inflated prices, down sized engines..

Never been a big fan of a full digital gauge cluster. I still love the analog and I think it’s because I just know it’s more durable and tested for so many years. Plus the fact that it’s nostalgic and just looks better. It’s the same way with watches and that’s why automatic watches are still better than digital/quartz, both in style and durability…nice review by the way!!!

It pays homage to the Nissan Xterra if you ask me.

You said enough. 4 cylinder

I know how you feel. I feel the same! The tailgate area where it goes up could have been the area where the door lays into it making a straight platform for easier entry. Having the 21 heritage. I totally feel everything your saying.

@michaelbardis

9 күн бұрын

I have an early year 200, and this doesn't feel like the same vehicle or even family of vehicle.

@xpeditionoverland

9 күн бұрын

I just saw in person the new Lexus Gx. I must say it feels like big brother Lexus stole the plans for the Land Cruiser and use them for themselves to build the Gx I must say I feel robbed and sadden for future Land Cruiser owners in the US. Not getting what they deserved desired nor wanted. Forcing people to move to Lexus not a good thing for Toyota. I have also seen the launch edition LandCruiser.. It was terrible I really hope that in time I could grow to even look at it without making weird faces at it.

Toyota has my truck in the shop, so they gave me a brand new rav4 hybrid for 2 weeks. I almost want one at some point.😅 2 weeks of driving daily for work and it’s just now touching the gas tank and getting around 40 mpg in eco mode. I live on a farm and did a little light off roading it in and it did pretty good.

Thanks!

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Thanks a ton! Really appreciate the kind gesture. 🙏

Let’s put it this way - I’m pretty glad I have a 5th gen 4Runner with only 80,000 miles - will be keeping it a very long while from the looks of things

Great video. Good and the bad simple and honest. Certain other Toyota KZreadrs bashed the price of the 200 HE but are now great paying 80k for this. I just want to see how this does with 400lbs of bumpers, winch camping gear while pulling a trailer. Going to be a lot of stress on that engine. I am jealous of the external climate controls.

I fully agree with you, wait two years to see how reliable these “Rube Goldberg Machines” perform. I was very blessed to buy a 2020 Land Cruiser New Year’s Eve day, 2019. Paid $81020.13, tax & vehicle fees included - negotiated with two dealers to get this price - no such deals now since Covid. The interior of the 2024 First Edition L. C., looks low budget - no wood - no fan of digital instrumentation, pricing is way out of touch too. Great video! Thanks.

Still own my 2004 220k v8 series 100. Never letting it go.

@SLHJR0390

13 күн бұрын

sold my 100 with 300k on her, it was time to move on sadly.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Nice! That’s the one to hold onto man 💯 💪

@animagix

12 күн бұрын

@@UntamedMotors will try my best. the northeast rust will eventually kill it off lol. Paid 10 grand for it back in 2019. Damn bargain.

Ehh.. at 80 Grand I’d buy an Escalade, Tahoe, or Yukon Denali. And feel like I actually got a luxury product, with a V8 and not a 4 cylinder.

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

Agreed and that’s coming from a mega Toyota fan

@kevinkidneyy

13 күн бұрын

facts a black on black escalade sheshhhhh

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yeah I’d do the same… I’d get a lightly used 200 series first but still get the Yukon over this I think. Having 4 kids helps me make that call though.

@marcodarko6941

13 күн бұрын

I am not a fan of a large SUV as I prefer a midsize one and I am definitely not a fan of any gm junk but I would totally consider a Yukon anyday over this chintzy, tinny pile of plastic 4 banger.

@JC-xc8rx

13 күн бұрын

@@marcodarko6941buy a ‘24 4Runner and you solve that problem

So, you will actually consider getting one even thought it still has the turbo charged engine with a hybrid system?

What is that screen like thing right behind the steering wheel?

@marcodarko6941

13 күн бұрын

Big brother or actually big they/them watching.

@pabss3193

12 күн бұрын

@@marcodarko6941 What does it do tho?

I love my 84 FJ60...still running strong with 171K. They took design cues from the 60 series

I’m in Belize and yes the back seat is set up for a third row. We get any variants we want down here. Even the turbo diesel. They don’t do allocation here since the market for those who can afford it is small I guess.

@J.Young808

14 күн бұрын

I wish I could buy one bring it here and just drive it around my farm until 25 years have passed.

@rollsroycenetwork1221

14 күн бұрын

@@J.Young808 yea. On the bright side you guys don’t have to deal with all that cost either. Here we also get the 300 series Land Cruiser and the cost after import duty and taxes are nearly 200k USD. The dealer here takes advantage of you since they are the only one in the country lol. That and import duty you have to pay the government kills you. That’s the only down side tho. We can have any engine we want to order it in. Whether that be a diesel or gasoline version. We can even order the new LX600 in a diesel aka LX500d.

@icosthop9998

13 күн бұрын

Many Americans go and live in Belize for their retirement. The American money goes further down there. Another plus is that it is the only nationality English-speaking country south of the border. I wonder if Toyota products are less expensive in Belize ?❔️

@woodrmp1

13 күн бұрын

@@icosthop9998ahh damn you beat me to it. I was gonna say when I turn 70 I’m gonna get myself a Tommy bahama shirt and red shorts and move to Belize and buy a Toyota 😂

@rollsroycenetwork1221

13 күн бұрын

@@icosthop9998 nah they aren’t less. In fact they are way more if you want one brand new the from the factory in Japan 😂😂. For a fully loaded Land Cruiser 250 known as the Prado here it’ll run you about $120k USD after dealership markups and import duty 🤦‍♂️. Don’t even get me started on the LX600/500d or the LC 300 series. It’ll set you back $190k USD at least after all the fees and taxes. The only good part is that when it’s time to find parts no matter if it’s a diesel or gasoline, you’ll find them. You’ll find plenty of 4 runners, fortunes, tundras, hilux and Tacoma here along with the crossovers

Thanks for the review, more confirmation and comfort with my recent decision to purchase a ‘24 4Runner.

Can you turn the cross traffic off ?

Do the doors feel solid like the GX470? The GX470 is a tank. Love it.

Beloved 2013 Rock Warrior Owner, humble subscriber and Obviously a, fan of your work. That said - The Price Destroys Any Further Joy Around This Land Cruiser - Thank You For Your Candor Sir

When you talk about the comparison with the 200 series, you have to keep in mind that in terms of I guess plastics, America always got the most high end, most luxurious trim of the Land Cruiser 200 Series, not to mention in todays market it’s roughly anywhere $5K-$20K more expensive than the First Edition Land Cruiser. The better comparison would be against a 150 Series Prado, obviously which American never got.

I dont get why people are crying about a 4cyl Prado. The 150 prado has always had a 2TR 4 cylinder option from 2003-2024 and a 3rz 4cyl option from 1995-2002.

@Yul-Uhlu

14 күн бұрын

$80k for a 4 cyl is a problem. Longevity is also a problem. Load is a problem. After warranty service is a problem. This truck is a service departments wet dream when warranty runs out. Don't misdirect our complaints.

@CACressida

14 күн бұрын

@@Yul-Uhlu it's an $80,000 First edition. Just like anything first edition, you pay to claim the "collectible." The 1958 starts at $55,000. The #1 Selling PEV in the USA is a 4 cylinder Jeep Wrangler that costs an absurd an amount of money for a vehicle with no insulation. You pay an ass ton of money for a new Mercedes C43 AMG 4 cylinder turbo. $80,000 is the new $40,000. Get over it.

@healer81

14 күн бұрын

The price is an issue, it should start at 10k less as should the Tacoma. Toyota could have sold it for 10k less and then setup the customers to pay 15k extra later on when they release a V6 version.

@aresp6925

13 күн бұрын

@@CACressida 1st edition ? What on Earth does that mean ? We are not collecting stamps here. 1st edition anything in the automotive world is to be generally avoided until the manufacturer irons out the bugs. And $80K is the new $40K ? Rly ? You are completely misreading ppl's comments. They are not gripes nor are they complaints. All loyal Toyota customers (not fanbois) simply express disappointment for the new direction. There is nothing to get over, here. I am the buyer, I got the money in my pocket and its Toyota that has to get over it with the new Tundras spinning main bearings, rows of Tacomas sitting unsold and for when we see the effect the turbos have on reliability and longevity. I bet even money that 50 years from now, NOBODY will be saying "consider the 2024 cruiser" like we now still say about the 1958 edition.

@CACressida

13 күн бұрын

@@healer81 you know, the same exact thing was said about the 200 series. People were saying "why should we pay $80,000 for. ToYoTa¿? It should be $50,000!" Luckily the 6th gen 4Runner is the same exact truck underneath the body for less money so you can always buy that.

Little surprised you didn’t mention the GX550 as an option I wouldn’t pay that price for any 4 cylinder idc what the name plate is .. can’t wait til my gx550 overtrail+ comes in Good review

Do a video on the replacement cost of the battery and turbos...that will open some eyes

I think they hit a hone run, I think the size makes more sense, the newer Land cruisers i thought were to big in my opinion, quality yes but big, i think they will sell a ton of them, sounds like all the MSRP FE are sold, seems like a ton of markups still though if you read the forums, the fe def seems overpriced compared the other models, so far everyone seems to like to drive it, vs the tundra and tacoma, lots of diff opinions on them, good video by the way, unfortunately were not back in time, if you get any new vehicles they seem to have all the tech in them, so probably have to get used to it, def be curious how these do long term as far as reliability

LEGO put in some long hours perfecting that front end.😂

“If you know you know” - 21’ Heritage Edition will go down as the GOAT of SUV’s.

as a Toyota Customer since 1982, FJ40 always owned Toyota land cruiser but I skipped the LC300 and just kept my LC200 2019 V8 new ones don’t float by boat anymore they do look good but over all its down hill sadly

My goodness. What technology did you use to read my EVERY THOUGHT regarding the new Land Cruiser?! From every exterior detail to the interior and the ridiculous transition from simple, ultra reliable V8 BEAST in the 200-Series to an overly complex 4-banger (albeit impressive, numbers-wise), you nailed it. Maybe all of us LC-enthusiasts feel like this. Toyota slaps us LC guys across the face by giving the Lexus GX a V6 twin turbo while we get the 4-cylinder. Why not, at the very least, have a LC V6 model? I've owned 4 LC's including my current 200-Series and would LOVE a new LC as I've owned my 2014 for 10vyrs now, and I'm getting the itch but this won't scratch it. Like you, MAYBE in a couple years after real-world data comes in, and kinks are worked out (and maybe they offer in a V6!!). Very disappointed they've done this to us. If they wanted to sell more 200's they should have started with true Base models and upgrade packages vs all being loaded. Finally, WTH is the deal with the choice of tires? The LC is supposed to be fully capable off road even if the overwhelming majority of driving is done on pavement. Try getting out of thick mud with those street tires. All the 4WD power is useless when all 4 tires are simply spinning. LOVED YOUR REVIEW (probably because it was also mine, without actually driving one yet!).

The 300-series is what they should've gave retro styling and brought over here. People who buy Land Cruisers "know" what Land Cruisers are. This is not the real Land Cruiser. We want a base model 300-series for $65k, not a base model "Prado" for $55k

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yeah I agree… would have been awesome to have gotten the real deal LC300 GR Sport 👌

@onenessacts238

13 күн бұрын

Honestly, what makes this less than a 300 minus the engine option?

@kendrickdelosreyes5381

13 күн бұрын

@@onenessacts238 The 300-series has heavier duty components. Nearly everything about the drivetrain is beefier and higher spec, even down to the radiator/hoses

@onenessacts238

13 күн бұрын

My understanding 300 and 250 same except for engine, front and rear diff. Maybe kdss.

@ssing7113

12 күн бұрын

@@onenessacts238I believe 50 more HP. That’s what the LX600 has I think they don’t because the lx600 isn’t the best seller. I mean yeah we’re in that territory already yet who knows why I do find it funny people will want the 300 with the v6 hot turboed engine

Looking at that engine bay, seems like just changing your spark plugs would be a pain in the ass 😂

@jamesemanner9671

13 күн бұрын

Hopefully 100K spark plugs. However, probably much more serviceable than the V6 in the sibling GX550.

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yeah there’s too much going on under that hood… I’m sure every mechanic would be thrilled diving into that mess 😂

@jamesemanner9671

13 күн бұрын

Their new title is "technician", and for sure, enhanced skills will be needed. However, the onboard\ and connected computers will hopefully and accurately diagnose the failing component, lest the technician falls into the category of a "swap until you drop" tech. A retired computer mainframe "engineer" (technician) I saw it go from requiring extensive skills and knowledge, to replacing the part called out by the onboard and remote diagnostics.

Great honest review. I get what you say about the 200, but this can't be compared to that Land Cruiser in any way (unless we're just looking at how close the price is to the last couple of year of the 200). This is a Prado, pure and simple. Very few people outside of North America do or ever will refer to a Prado as a Land Cruiser, because it just isn't. In many ways it's like it's like saying the Bronco Sport is a Bronco. I've been a life-long owner of Land Cruisers all over the world, and have owned other Toyotas, Mazdas, Nissan/Datsun, Mitsubishi, etc. (most in 4WD models). Made-in-Japan is not always what it's cracked up to be, but it certainly means that you're getting better/much better than average dedication and competence from the assembly line workers. The 200 series (and the current 70 series) are probably the last true-to-heritage Toyota Land Cruisers ever to be built. Unfortunately, where I currently live, the 200 series was not an option, so I purchased a 2023 4Runner TRD OR (only available as a Premium in Canada) that I will be keeping forever.

This looks like what I imagine a Nissan Xterra would look like in 2025. If Nissan were smart they would see the millions of disenfranchised Toyota fans, and they would put bunch of money behind the Frontier and battle the Land Cruiser with a new Xterra. The new Frontiers look nice so they have it in them to make a cool Xterra, I think they could steal back a large portion of Toyota’s market share in the midsize truck/SUV segment. The Xterra might have been one of the most sold SUV’s of our lifetime, it has a cult following, I think it would be a slam dunk right now. An all new Frontier and Xterra, taking the lessons learned by Toyota, keeping what we like and getting rid of what we don’t. No 4 cylinders. The top trims both being 20 grand cheaper than the Toyota counterparts.. let the reviewers get their hands on the products and do side by sides, and show what your getting for the extra 20 grand if you’re getting anything at all. Build a product that you believe in and I think you’re going to beat Toyota right now and take a large portion of their large fanbase that have become dissatisfied by this latest generation. If I was Nissan brass I would be drooling at the prospect of answering this call.

@ChrisDavis333

14 күн бұрын

Maybe even a V8 Titan? Who knows.. it’s a blinking light to me. Trump is about to be elected, regulations are going to get slashed, going all in on 4 cylinders right now is really fucking dumb and short sighted in my opinion. We don’t want them.

@youtubecarspottersguide1

14 күн бұрын

Nissan needs to change the name of the armada to Nissan patrol go back to its roots a Xterra is needed

@ChrisDavis333

14 күн бұрын

@@youtubecarspottersguide1 the market is screaming for an Xterra right now.. I think they could make an affordable alternative with just as many features and it won’t have a 4 cylinder… they would kill it. The Xterra was insanely popular, has an insane amount of name value. It makes all the sense in the world to me, but car manufacturers show time and time again they have no idea what’s going on. Look at dodge, look at Toyota, Ford, just dumb decisions after dumb decisions. You want to steal a majority of the 4Runner/LandCruiser sales? Release an awesome new generation Xterra, with all the features, no 4 cylinders, and a 30% discount when compared to Toyotas.

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

Toyota has always coasted off charging more cause their resale value / rep for reliability. They never really beat competing cars on more features just more longevity. That’s harder to compare side to side

Nice looking vehicle!

I agree, the base LC seems to make more sense, but I kinda like the 2025 4Runner more. I also would stay away from the hybrid version. The 4 banger is adequate and it seems the battery takes a lot of place.

29:52 TFW when you go fording a river and water gets inside the engine compartment 🤣🤣

"Wait a couple of years ... let them work out their issues" Thank you!!! So true. They are trying to make you think that a First Edition is a great thing. It is a BAD thing. You should always wait a few years until the quality issues have been fixed. In my view there are too many issues with this one currently. The battery pack makes the loading space much too high. There is no back seat hatch in the middle to put your skis or tall items through (don't want to fold for this because need the two larger back seats left and right) and clicking those buttons up and down to adjust temperature is going to be a hassle. Like you also not a big fan of piano black (so unpractical) and I am also very concerned about the complexity of this engine.

@UntamedMotors

9 күн бұрын

Thanks man, yeah they could have done much better across the board here. =\

If they put the 4.0 V6 from the old 4Runner with a 8 speed transmission in this LC, I will pay 60K for it.

Glad you got a new wallet

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Haha it was forced upon me by my wife… kinda miss the ole overstuffed, flakey thing…

For the money, would you get the first edition or mid Lexus GX550? I’m not totally clear on the market pricing but I see some in the 74k range. Seems like for the same truck, but theoretically more luxurious and a V6 twin turbo, it’s a no brainer 🤔

After 13 years with an FJ Cruiser and two 5th gen 4Runners, i have decided on the GX 550, because I honestly do not want a petrol turbo 4 cylinder in a heavy body-on-frame vehicle. I feel forced into this tbh, just to get away from turbo 4 cylinders. I wonder if Toyota considered using the turbo V6, without turbos, though i'm not sure how powerful it would be and tuning enough power might not efficient. Naturally aspirated, even with the hybrid option would have been an instant buy for me lol. This vehicle needs a Land Cruiser engine. Land Cruiser is not just a name badge. The exhaust note is depressing, because the 4Runner also sounds that way. I feel like I have nowhere to turn for a reliable truck based SUV with a with a proven engine. If Nissan would make an SUV version of the Frontier, I would be intrigued. I love that V6 in those trucks.

Well if anyone was wondering where Clark Griswold stores all of his imported Italian twinkle light strings when not in use, they are to be found in that engine bay.

@UntamedMotors

10 күн бұрын

Haha that is a fact! 😂

It needs good all terrain tires. My 4runner came with Nitto Grabbers when I bought it.

The Land Cruiser trim is about $67,000 US Same price as the Tacoma hybrid so it’s not priced too bad compared to the Mexican taco or the upcoming 4Runner.

That is why I did get the 2024 TRD PRO. Love it!

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Good call, brother. Congrats! What color did you opt for?

Toyota Land Cruiser has always had a premium price in all the other models so this having it isn't a surprise! It's always been Toyota top truck so the price people are saying it's too expensive then they must not know Land Cruiser history.

77,000 for a Toyota is crazy money.

I'm fine with the switches just glad it's not all touch screen.

I’m just not understanding what’s going on here. The LC was twice as expensive as a Tacoma and 4R. Now they all share the same platform, just pick your body style and it’s $70K for any of em

1958 should have been without hybrid that would bring price down and u would get less power but extra seats like the rest of the world

@NeighbaNeighba

13 күн бұрын

And it would have sold like hot cakes.

20:45 When you're offroading and going over bumpy roads, if your phone is on that wireless charger, is fixing to fly all over the car and possibly land on the floor. The old LC200 wireless charger is more compact and prevents the phones from flying all over the place.

I would have a 6.0L LS2 engine preordered for when the warranty expires 😅👌🏼

I ordered the first edition in the uk but there was only two colour choices - Smokey blue or yellow 2.8 diesel . I was shocked at the price 79990 uk pounds !

Have you heard about crank shaft failures on the LX 600 and tundra?

Throw the V8 from the last generation Tundra and I’m sold.

I like the 1958 and those rugged cloth seats. I only wish they would have a 3rd row option in the new LC. Otherwise you have to step up to the GX to get 2nd row buckets and a third row.

I understand for the US market customer, Toyota out side USA is different 4cly diesel, regular 4 clu, 6 .

It takes premium gas???

@jonathanratliff4780

13 күн бұрын

87 octane…. The higher output versions of this drivetrain in Lexus models requires 91 octane

I thought and thought and thought about the rig for me. And in 2018, I ended up with a 2015 Lexus 'Lux CPO. I got skinned on it a little bit. Now, it looks like a smart purchase and then some. But I'm glad I don't need a new rig. Big step down, even though plenty o' gizmos. ha!

I told my friend about Toyota's latest moves, and I was like, "Seriously? Who in their right mind wants a four-cylinder engine in an SUV, especially one that kicks off at $70,000? And don't get me started on the battery-operated SUV nonsense. It's like they're trying to destroy their own image! Plus, it barely even improves MPG. I'd bet my last dollar these models are gonna flop hard. Nobody's gonna touch this junk. Can you imagine trying to fix that stupid battery-operated mess? They should be focused on what's best for their customers, not this. And let's face it, they don't get us Americans. We want rugged, manly SUVs, not these European or Japanese little car wannabes."

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

Ya except they’re sold out everywhere at the moment. Maybe after the newness rubs off future year models will flop but so far there’s enough people who want it. I’m starting to think that those of us caught up in the old days of pricing are simply the delusional ones

@oriontackett7643

13 күн бұрын

​@Lmatdhr now show the actual first quarter sales on them.... they're not selling out. That's just Toyota knowing that most people are suckers and will make an impulse decision to get one from other dealers giving the illusion that they're in demand. There's 2 rows (including the iforceMax) at just 1 of the 2 dealers within a half hour drive from me. They're not even difficult to find just about any trim with options

@braalo07

13 күн бұрын

This is the best move for Toyota, no one wants those old thirsty large engines. Also that new V6 in the Tundra is unreliable. 2.4 is the best option imo until they fix the V6. Also they need to comply with the regulations so part of the blame is with policymakers

@JokerG16

13 күн бұрын

Bro i was with you, but honestly Americans don’t want manly tough off-roaders. if that was the case the Xterra would’ve still been around. sadly this market loves mall crawlers…or if they buy the rugged SUVs, they are pavement princesses, to the point the 4x4 is almost never used

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

@@JokerG16 they don’t want that kind of reliability they just want “will never break down and will require almost no maintenance and will take me skiing or hiking or camping if I so choose”. Which is ideal for that. The engine in this car is probably the best engine mechanically for reliability Toyota has ever made, along side the v8 in the Land Cruiser.

I like the wheels! They would look good on my 2022 Tacoma

The v6 on the GX sounds interesting, minus the price.

@JokerG16

13 күн бұрын

And costs about the same as this one. Base GX is cheaper than this tho, which is crazy to think about

@blackwatch7151

13 күн бұрын

And engine failures. That engine is seizing in Tundras and Lexus

Even though I like the round headlights, the mid tier LC is the way to go. The first edition just doesn’t have that much to justify the huge price premium vs mid tier. I’d probably even skip the premium package as I feel softex would stand up to my dogs better and I hate the stupid cool box.

@richardmiller3146

5 күн бұрын

Current LC200 owner and have had 3 others, including another 200 and I have to say I LOVE my Cool Box. I drive a lot and use it EVERY DAY. It gets drinks very cold and pretty quickly. I can put 7 16-oz water bottles in it.

@TacticalStrudel

4 күн бұрын

@@richardmiller3146 I can’t think of anything I’d want to trade that storage for less than 7 bottles of shitty bottled water.

@richardmiller3146

4 күн бұрын

@TacticalStrudel If I drank shitty bottled water and wasn't in and out of the hot sun all day, I might feel the same. Serious question: What is it that you need to store in your vehicle? And, if you wanted to drink cold beverages all day (it doesn't cool just water), you'd either be stopping at gas stations all day or need to bring a cooler. If you're going to pack a cooler, you'd have to also pack it with ice. Whatever you'd store in the compartment, you can put in some sort of box and bring that along when you want it. And, not have to deal with ice. The only thing I might consider trading my cool box for would be something to hold my firearm in that would allow for discreet but quick access.

@TacticalStrudel

4 күн бұрын

@@richardmiller3146 center console contains a medical kit, spare G17 in an easy to don/doff keepers the errand, spare mag that also fits my EDC G34, and some Kleenex. Insulated water bottle filled with filtered water and ice before leaving the house. And/or coffee in an insulated cup (fellow Carter wide 16oz). I don’t normally buy drinks from gas stations, if I buy a drink on the road it’s usually a coffee. All bottled water is shitty.

“Let’s go places unreliable” You’re the voice of the real consumers, $77k tho hard pass… I wonder when the 5th 4 RNRS will spike up in price. #TEAM UT!!

Nothing screams luxury like a prop rod for the hood.

I don’t like that nanny watching where you are looking above the steering wheel.

@marcodarko6941

13 күн бұрын

🎯

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Haha right!? I kept staring at that thing… just watching my every move. 😂

I have a 2018 TRD PRO 4RUNNER in black. At first glance I thought that’s what it was.

I mean comparing this directly with a 200 or 300 series is a bit unbalanced. It’s a Prado / 250 series so we should take that into consideration.

@richardmiller3146

5 күн бұрын

But, it's what they replaced our beloved 200 with so I think it's warranted to compare the two.

You need that 5th Gen TRD Pro 4Runner.

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

Way better than this new lc besides the fact that this looks nice

Is it a better value than the Sequoia TRD Pro?

@Lmatdhr

13 күн бұрын

I don’t think so personally and I’d rather have a series 5 4Runner TRD pro over this too

So the gas tank is on the left now?

@UntamedMotors

13 күн бұрын

Yep, now it is. Good eye!

yep only thing i like is the prado/lc silhouette and i kinda dig the fj esque lights. Wheels are trash thats highlander grade 😂

nice frontier