Nicely done, great editing. This was such a remarkable period in motorsport, it's hard to believe it was 20+ years ago...

Awesome video, deserves a hell of a lot more views.

Really nice video man. Thanks.

Absolutely stunning video.

Brilliant video, thanks mate

Brilliant! I own most of the Group B videos in this video and the editing to the sound track is epic. Just wait till Rally cars go EV, group B will be reinvented.

I witnessed the derrangement that went through everyone that year here in Portugal. I remember Markku saying, about the Lancia, that it was a "car that had no straights, ounce you're out of a corner you're into the next one". I cried when I heard Henri had died. Never again will there be such power on an common road.

Wow well done video!!! R.I.P Henry!!!!

AWESOME! the first video i dont miss the 'group B sound'. great job! keep it up!

the moment of the communication between the commissioners and the paramedics is from shivers... it makes to freeze the blood

10+ Fantastic video, great editing. Especially loved switching through different cars in the same shots. Great work. Could use some original sound though ;)

Amazing video, just wish I'd been able to see these cars and drivers first hand.

Nejlepší group B.. , s tím se nedá nic srovnávat prostě best of..

you make the best Group B videos

thanks,josti88!:) now I can listen to it in my car

great editing.

Very well made video

Brilliant video and so sad.

great analysis

I saw and heard these awesome cars and drivers in 1000 Lakes Rally back in the 80. And most of the drivers were Finns. Great video!

Great vids! I keep wondering what the WRC would be like if Group B was never stopped.

I have a rough translation of the Toivonen interview in the discription box. Before the Corsica part, it's Markku Alén talking about the Corsican event that year.

Podium finishers of the '86 Monte. In front it's Timo Salonen (2nd), all behind is Hannu Mikkola (3td) and winner Henri Toivonen in the middle.

Thanks, Last song is: Immediate Music - Speed this!

best car best kind of life....group b live in my heart...

´Great video!! your vids rock Josti! Indeed group B will always be the greatest category ever to exist....long live henri toivonen!

the best video on youtube

.... Great video....

Josti another great vid! i love them all...certainly a sad note on the loss of the great henri toivonen, it is impressive, as quoted before, that HT said that driving these cars was impossible. for any of the rally fans out there, do you know what were henri toivonen's racing numbers? besides the cursed number 4 with which he died?

that'll be great, thanks a lot!

Muy bien hecho, me ha gustado mucho! Adoro el grupo B

That man was Henri Toivonen. He crashed during the Corsican rally of 1986, and he and his co-driver sergio creato died in what was easily a survivable accident in today's rally cars. As a result the FISA banned Group B

senza parole...stupendo...

I like Your Videos I think this video more then 5 star:) R. I. P. Henry & Sergio :( (Can you write me the music's title?)

Very nice vid !!! group b is the best ! what was the name of the songs ?

About the onboard clip in the Corsica part. It's not Toivonen. He wore an open helmet at that rally. So it's either Alén or Biasion.

exelent clip, where is the ling for this HQ download?

i love motorsport so much and specially rally and if i speak about rally. everybody thinks about the group b. i'm just 15 years old. i've never saw them drive. but i've seen a lot of movies about those rally class. it was just fantastic. they were the monsters of the 80's. there were no other cars who were better than them. it was just magnifisant. i dream every day that group b joins back into rally. but i think that thats never gonna happen.

Yes, FIA looked too much at F1 (Still does) and as a panic reaction, it banned Group B. Group A had a slow start yes, but it picked up in the early 90's.

Oh yeah sorry. It's the radio contact between Tiziano Siviero (codriver of Biasion) on the spot where Henri crashed and the Lancia camp in Ajaccio. Siviero calling for a fire department cause Henri's car exploded. Fiorio asked if they where out of the car, but he couldn't tell. At the end they say, "Whole Lancia team, return to Ajaccio".

where do you get your clips from? thier amazing :)

What was that incar clip seen at 1:55 and 2:00???? Toivonen in S4? I want see all of it!!!11 =)

around to ever see it

il momento delle comunicazioni fra gli uomini in elicottero e il parco assistenza è da pelle d'oca....

TRULY EPIC. 'nuff said

you can find the video on Dailymotion with the sound!!

yep i heard that too but i never saw any video about it... i heard the S4 exploded in a frontal crash

Well, at that time, they raced with different numbers every Rally. Besides 4, his most famous are probably his winning numbers like 7 at the Monte Carlo, 6 at RAC '85 and 16 at RAC 1980. But If you want a list of all his starting numbers, I can pm it to you.

and he's so right. group b cars were and still are the real rally cars

They don't race with more horsepower now. Turbos were banned from F1 in 1989 as the cars became too fast for the tracks. The '80s are called the Turbo era in F1 and cars had up to 1400 bhp in qualifying trim. Now in V8 the have about 800bhp I think. Few years ago they were up to 950 bhp, but further rule changes have brought the horsepower figures down again.

The sequential gearboxes have a stick/leaver, they're not allowed to have paddleboxes in rallying now if i'm right

real engineering went into these machines...

i always wanted to see the accident of the RS200 in Portugal.. some people died, dozens were hurted.. i finally barelly saw it in this video :( for me Group B are the best racing cars ever made but.. that's sad..

excellent

Great job 5 Stars

i am not a fan of cars but group b was awesome thanks for the video

My sweetness tear for you... For yours...

Just wondering, but who are the three drivers at the 1:00 mark?

What software are you using!!

i wonder if they will ever bring group back?

Great!

so then what's that frantic radio conversation about?

I use Sony Vegas 7b

what was happening at 3:20. did he hit someone and keep going?

I use Sony Vegas 7.

could you make an english translation? you know for all the important-sounding talk going on?

tsport100, The reason rally is limited to 300bhp is because they run in a surrounding that has none of the safety standards that are in F1.

i agree

BTW my theory on why Gr B was banned so suddenly had more to do with Bernie Eccelstone and F1 being made to look pedestrian and loosing manufactures than how dangerous Gp B was. Drivers diw in F1 and the entire formula doesn't get banned! GrA almost killed rallying, and I'm sure that was the FIAs idea at the time.

triste pero cierto

There's no defining reason for his accident, though it's more or less proved that understeer was obsolete.

i don't think it was portugal, it was the corsica rally where the accident happened killing Henri and Sergio.

why exactly was group b banned? im only 17 so i wasnt

whats the name of that song

Listen mate, you're counting peanuts. In the turbo era fuel tank size and boost was restricted and mid race refuelling banned so it became a fuel economy championship. By the last season of turbo engines they ran only 2.5 Bar boost (down from 4 Bar) and 150 litre fuel tanks = about 850hp. They now run 900hp! Restrictions were phased in over 4 years, they didn't just kill the category on less than 12 months notice like with Group B.

Well done vid. Excellent. Most forms of racing, be it 4 wheel, or 2 are over-regulated. There are places for open class racing which rewards ingenuity and engineering ideas. Over-regulation is what makes NASCAR so dreadful. Also, I'm not certain people lining the race lanes which have no barriers are as much victims as they are Darwinian experiments. I would love to see something like Gruppe B return with beastly 1000Hp engines and with modern transmission and engine management technology.

1986

Don't you think the FIA should put a limit of 300 Bhp on F1 cars also? Rally is restricted to the same power level as F3. In fact, it seems every formula OTHER than F1 has to run an air restrictor.

That was the reaction after they discovered Toivonen had crashed

its still banned but we get round it sort of by doing "displays" and "demos" with grp b cars :)

The human race as become soft simple no one today has the guts to drive such mithical beasts who wants to live forever

unfortunatelly, believe me.. they will never bring it back.. :(

k thanks

I love gruop B

it's something about a car fire, and to stop the race, call the firefighters and also as u can see the man sounds very disperate maybe bacause the crash was very bad

If you can tell me that what was done to slow F1 cars after Aytron Senna died (ah NOT MUCH) and what happened to Rallying after Henri Toivonen died are equal (what equated to busting Grand Prix cars down to F3 cars) I'd say you don't know what you're talking about Mate.

T16 forever!

did Toivonen have angina?

I have heard that when group B rally cars were competing against formula one car in F1-track, that those, f1 and group b cars, were quite equal. bad english. I know...

I heard some where he was avoiding a crowd..... i think group b should be reinstrated but with croud control

henri toivonen and his co-driver fell really bad and died during this run.

WMG!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!? BAAUGH!!!

Grb had high end technology and much money on development and research. Check s4 turbo compressor system. Vw "reinvented" it 20 years later. Grb was their life and all the ceos were the founders or the successors of brands. They had passion and money. But... See lancia. Its f1 team were sold to ferrari with fagio and lancia went bankrupt

brutal rally

It was pretty obvious at the time (1986) that F1 felt threatened! (Maybe ur 2 young 2 remember) They set up an FIA World Touring Car championship that was cancelled after just 1 year. Bernie's Brabham F1team built an Alfa Romeo (look up 164 procar on KZread) V10 proto type demo car as a suggestion for a circuit racing 'silhouette' formula to rival Group B. (Bernie owned the global TV rights to F1). The FIA, who control both series, killed GpB and replaced with the equivalent to today's Gp N.

And it got first place doing so.

5 stars [*] ;(

TO THE KZread MANAGERS (or something like that): ARE WE TRYING TO SELL SOMETHING HERE?! DO YOU THINK THAT THE MUSIC RIGHTS OWNERS WOULDN'T BE PROUD TO WATCH HOW PEOPLE LOVE THEIR WORK TO USE IT IN A VIDEOCLIP?! GET FKN REAL!!! IT TAKES HOURS TO MAKE A DAMN MOVIE LIKE THIS, SOMETIMES ONLY TO POST IT HERE!!! THIS IS NOT A DAMN VIDEO STORE!!!

Yes! there is lots of ppl who likes to see group B back! Croud control needs atenttion, and what i like to see is the old sideways driving style. Its not the fastest way around corners but needs more skill and much more entertaimin for the croud. Driver needs to make the car, not computers and all that shit.

super dramatic!!! great!