Filthy Secrets..Mistresses POV
Today on Nutty History we uncover What Life Was Like as a Mistress in the English Royal Court!
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“Copious amounts of a carnal merry-go-round of flirtation and seductions”. That is some solid writing my guy 👍
@amberg4131
11 ай бұрын
We’re all the children who were born without the king being married to these women all not have any nobility titles? I’m curious how the rank went
@KindomChums
11 ай бұрын
@@amberg4131 Some were given high titles and rank in the military and the royal court. Some not so lucky, however.
Nell Gwynn is one of my favorite historical figures. “Pray, good people, be civil, for I am the Protestant whore.” It’s so unfair she didn’t get a title like Louise did.
A "royal" mistress was definitely NOT seen as higher than a queen, but sometimes a mistress COULD wield some influence, political or otherwise , at court.
OK you can call me picky. But one of the paintings that was shown is of an actual artist. And her last name was Gentilischi (not sure of the spelling). She was an Italian artist who was wonderful and not admired enough. She painted mostly portraits. Which leads me to give you all an idea. How about the history of female artists? In the classical sense and also impressionist. I think that would be a great subject to cover.
@christinebutler7630
11 ай бұрын
Artemisia Gentileschi, and yes, she was an artist 's daughter who became a virtuoso artist herself, after she was brutally raped and thus, without her purity, was no longer marriageable. Her art was both her profession and her way of dealing with trauma.
@monicawylie3985
11 ай бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 yes 🙌 Thank you. I remember learning that about her. That was brutal. I felt horrible about that. Her work is beautiful. Such talent.
There's an excellent book called 'Sex with Kings'. It's about the royal mistresses throughout history (mostly Europe). Definitely worth a read!
@blueblack3591
11 ай бұрын
Interesting thanks
@luvlols4462
11 ай бұрын
I have fond memories of reading that book while waiting for my laundry to finish. The queen only leaves court in a coffin, a mistress can be sent away for any reason or none at all. Always stuck with me for some reason.
@sharonharris9782
11 ай бұрын
Love that book!
@stephaniemiller5049
11 ай бұрын
I LOVE that book!
@Mustlovebooks15
3 ай бұрын
That was a fun book to read
"The man was putting in work" That was too funny 😂
@swiftkarma4436
10 ай бұрын
I 😂 too
So, it's really misplaced to suggest that these mistresses "didn't feel" shame. This was a position orchestrated by the most powerful men in the country, it was considered a state position, the royal marriages were morganatic, and that was publicly understood. Marital fidelity for male royalty and nobility just wasn't expected. Mentioning that these women didn't feel shame is sexist (though of course inadvertantly I understand) because it suggests they ought to have. The men who benefitted from this system undoubtedly didn't feel shame either but they might ought to have based on our modern sensibilities. Being a royal mistress had incredibly steep down-sides. While these women could access things most women couldn't, it was an an extremely high cost in a myriad of ways and the ones that we most closely associate with shame nowadays are the ones who maneuvered well enough to sustain themselves through those high costs.
Patriarchies: The only thing women are good for is sex and looking pretty! Mistresses: Okay! *does that for royals, gain a ton of wealth and power* Patriarchies: No, not like that!
@ARedMagicMarker
11 ай бұрын
It's to the point where it's like it doesn't even matter. Nothing matters, so live your life as you see fit. Because as a woman, eyes are ALWAYS on you and you're ALWAYS going to be wrong. Particularly in these religious-based places
@lenibeni7421
10 ай бұрын
@@ARedMagicMarkerthey will always make it like you are wrong. But most of the time you are not. Don’t let their stupid words influence you and stand proud for the generations to come! This is THE LNLY WAY to change the way it is and it has to change. It already has changed. No one should have to go trough those lives again…. And we are the generation who can set an example for the next and so can they for their own children.
Nutty History never fails to deliver a good and interesting video. Keep up the good work 👍
This is second video I’ve watched from the channel and I’ve already decided to subscribe, very informative content with a dash of humor and sarcasm. You have great narrator voice too.
@NuttyProductionsOfficial
11 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
I never had any respect for Charles II, and have even less so now. How power and wealth can be abused!
@brennathecatlover4360
11 ай бұрын
Same with the mistresses they were the same way
@Manish_3333
11 ай бұрын
Still better than Harry
@Wee162
11 ай бұрын
As women in that patriarchal time, the mistresses didn’t have much choice. Learn some history before you judge.
@Iflie
11 ай бұрын
At the time everyone told them they were chosen by god for their role and sucking up was a job at court. How can you turn out anything but a philandering dictator? That's why revolutions happened. The only modern countries who still have royals have separated politics from them and have a far more reasonable demeanor. Though mistresses were still a thing until recently. Like in Belgium not long ago the daughter of a royal got herself acknowledged through the court and her father tried everything to not have to give dna and accept her. Her mother was married at the time she wsa sleeping with him and it was a long standing affair and he knew his daughter as a little girl. So he knew exactly that she was his daughter.
I really enjoy this channel, thanks 🙏🏽💜
After watching Charles II: the power & passion released in 2003 I was hooked by his life. I mean he managed to reestablish the English monarchy and his pragmatism led to practical reforms allowing the English monarchy to survive unlike the French monarchy under Louis IV which would be abolished decades later despite the latter being the epitome of Europe’s courtly prestige.
@Shineynsparkles
10 ай бұрын
This was a movie ?
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. Next video could you do Georgiana Spencer Duchess of Devonshire 😊
Love this!!❤
Omg i love his cheeky descriptions
Thanks for these videos! I'd love to see you make one about the Native discussions with Europeans about politics and society and the European observations of Native life. The French wrote a lot about that, especially involving the Wendat nation, where they said things like how they thought everyone was more intelligent than people in France lol, or more rational, and marveled at the lack of poverty, the generosity, and the gentleness of the people with each other. It would be a fantastic video that would inform a lot of people about the really significant aspects of Native societies.
@lissi6931
10 ай бұрын
Second this!! And Edward S. Curtis’ work too! Very insightful and I love his photography/portraits of various indigenous people and First Nations
@RayyanKesnan
10 ай бұрын
@@lissi6931 Definitely interesting stuff to talk about. The photographs are beautiful, but I think there's a lot to unpack around them. Please don't take this as an attack on your comment! I think it's important to add that his photos were very romanticised and part of this idea that "primitive" peoples traditional ways should be preserved before they are "lost forever". These people genuinely believed other cultures would disappear before the "superior white race". He also orchestrated the photos to remove any signs of contemporary technology and hid the reality of colonization and its horrors. Curtis was unfortunately operating from a very racist mindset, and many have argued he attempted to portray indigenous peoples as frozen in a mythical past and unconcerned with so-called "modern" development, which influenced public opinion concerning indigenous objections to business ventures on their lands, like railroads. It's important to remember that wealthy railroad bosses were actually funding Curtis' project. His photos created emotional distance between the indigenous peoples depicted and his white audiences, not portraying them as relatable human beings but curiosities that were detached from worldly issues. I hope you don't take offense at this, I just wanted to mention an important part of the discussion around Edward Curtis that sheds some light on the history of indigenous nations.
The paintings used in this video are beautiful! Is there any way you could link to or give artwork titles and artist so I can look them up? The gowns and hair are so beautiful. This era of fashion is honestly rising higher and higher through the ranks for me.
Despite their rivalry Louise and Nell actually got along well. They would often have tea and play cards. Both Nell and Louise were the only two mistresses along with Queen Catherine Charles II was concerned with when he lay dying.
At 4:04, Charles ll is depicted as having 3 hands in the portrait, 2 right hands - one pointing down and one pointing up, and a third hand on the right arm of the woman seated to his left. Interesting!
@swiftkarma4436
10 ай бұрын
🤔 very
I started a new book in the choices app last night called the duchess affair and then KZread recommended this video. 😂 what's funnier than that is when you make a risque choice it pops up a plus sign and the word SCANDALOUS beside it
The pendulum swing both ways. From the Puritan Cromwell. To the Philanderer Charles ll.
Oh okay,so this explains the lil’ syphilis problem😂
Damn, this helps explain much of the European intricacies in history! Wow!
Seriously, ask yourself what’s it like to be someone’s property. Seem interesting? Fancy clothes don’t make being bought and paid for enjoyable.
Sounds like a great way to catch syphilis 😮
Great video. But just a little feedback…the beginning has statements in boxes flying backwards and it just went too fast for me to read them all. Please slow things down when we need to read the longer ones. Otherwise we either skip it or have to rewind.
To all that left a lovely comment thank you. Teachers should make history fun like this wonder man. I just saw where collage students didn't know why we celebrate July 4th. I laughed but it's scary. These young adults don't know anything about history they thought it was for learning how to use fireworks. 😂
@genxx2724
10 ай бұрын
I wish that were funny.
@elizabethtaylor6306
10 ай бұрын
only USA celebrates 4th July - I had to google what that was tbh
@rustynails8756
9 ай бұрын
Please tell me it's not true. I am wondering exactly what students do learn during the course of their education.
@rustynails8756
9 ай бұрын
@@elizabethtaylor6306 Due to the poster using a laugh emoji it is a pretty safe bet they are speaking of American college students
@Revan-ed5gu
9 ай бұрын
@@rustynails8756 tell you what’s not true? That America are the only nation that celebrate 4th July? It is true. Also we do not get taught about it in schools in the UK as it is not deemed relevant. It’s not a big deal at all for us tbh. I studied WW1 and WW2 at GCSE level and I studied Ancient Rome and Greece at degree level and qualified as an archaeologist. I’m interested in most history tbh but when it comes to American it’s never piqued my interest, probably because it’s still so young to the world.
In the 21st century the word "mistress" has changed in meaning since the 17th century. Other words such as "soft" and "gay" have also changed in meaning in our English language.
@Imperator-vo4to
11 ай бұрын
What did mistress mean then and now? What's the difference?
@davea6314
11 ай бұрын
@@Imperator-vo4to In his dictionary published in 1755, Samuel Johnson defined the word "mistress" as: "1. A woman who governs; correlative to subject or servant; 2 A woman skilled in anything; 3. A woman teacher; 4. A woman beloved and courted" In the 21st century "mistress" is a word mostly commonly used to describe a woman having an adulterous sexual affair with a man married to another woman.
@AloneInTheGarden
10 ай бұрын
@@davea6314Would they have instead used “paramours” to describe them during this time?
@davea6314
10 ай бұрын
@@AloneInTheGarden The Norman conquerors of England would have used that word.
Poor Queen Catherine
This would be a great TV show
Bro was the first Hugh Hefner
I feel bad for Catherine 😢
When can I get this images?
Hah! It seems the Sun King, magnificent Louis 14th, a Charles' contemporary dealt with his lovers much more skillfully, his mistresses always stayed under his control -as he rest of the court and did not dare to challenge the Quinn's top place.
@einezcrespo2107
9 ай бұрын
I don't know about that. Athenais de Montespan was able to get Louis to dump Louise de La Vallière and she became his main mistress. Athenais like Barbara Palmer was temperamental, greedy, rapacious and probably more haughtier. She had Louis wrapped around her finger til he dumped her for the kids nanny Madame de Maintenon.
Oh the tails that weave into one another!!
@a.ros12
10 ай бұрын
😅
Nell Gwynn is my favorite
Barbara Villiers father George Villiers had a severe temper as well.
The palmer girl looks like the red head from the aidan turner version of poldark. #eleanortomlinson
I’m far from beautiful, my dad used to say your cute but remember, cute is just one step above ugly. I’d have safe during those times
Kings knew how to live 😅
👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽
During Charles era, it was not the United Kingdom
What about love huh Your Majesty? Guess that doesn't come into it huh. 😡😒
...😊
Slow down
I love all the stories. Now let’s get some from the African continent 🖤
Men love gossiping these days 😅
Charles was hella hot, regardless of his crown.
The pronunciation of French names is definitely not the strength of the narrator
Uh, excuse me, but you're speaking too slowly oh and you're using too small of words - said no one ever while watching one of your videos 😅
If its not illegal why are people so concerned with others' sex lives??? 🤔true
@leadfarmer556
11 ай бұрын
Not illegal in mans law. Gods law forbids it.
@brennathecatlover4360
11 ай бұрын
It’s more morally wrong
@Wee162
11 ай бұрын
@@brennathecatlover4360You’re moralizing of history is tiresome.
@brennathecatlover4360
11 ай бұрын
@@Wee162 girl what i just says it’s more morally wrong but an actual law which is true. U don’t go to jail for cheating but it’s still socially wrong to do it
@rosycandyhaven
10 ай бұрын
@@Wee162You’re so right. The 21st Century pearl clutching of things that happened hundreds of years ago make me laugh.
If you are a courtesan, no longer do you have to hide! Way to go! your progeny, also a courtesan, is crowned queen of england!. All decency and respect flies out the window as miss piggy decks herself out in the crown jewels. Honestly charlie, what were you thinking? You don't marry women like that nor do you elevate them to be queen of the land. Bad bad error of judgement that will cost you the crown. This day will come.