Imagine if reviewers spent more time talking about how one of these things actually works vs hyping how they sound. I bet companies would start making real changes.

@i.shadrin

Жыл бұрын

so naive)

I own the BTR7 and I love it. To my 62 year old year old ears it sounds tremendous on any of my headphones. It has plenty of power, especially if using a balanced cable. My headphones run in price between $200-$1200. If I have a single beef with this piece it is the software, and the sheer number of functions just a couple of buttons have to handle. I'm not saying it's perfect but I love this piece of gear. This reviewer does his job right and I respect that. I think people need to buy/audition and listen rather than ask others what they should purchase. Think about it... who are you wanting to impress, YOURSELF or somebody else?

The BTR7 isn't for the non audiophile type. That's not suppose to be an insult. Audiophile own a wide range of headphones. Some of them need a lot of power to use (planar magnetic generally need more juice) in that case a BTR7 would be the choice over the other amps.

@afrog2666

Жыл бұрын

iFi GO BLU is as powerful I believe, but with no app, no screen and only a bass boost and wide effect, so it`s a no go for me as I need the EQ.

@Hijynx87

6 ай бұрын

@@afrog2666always wanted an ifi goblu for the space/bass, but I already have a btr7 and qudelix. I’d probably be better off getting something like an ifi idsd gryphon or hipdac for that.

I think you may be the ONLY person who tells us the truth about a product. Not kidding around at all.

The btr5 used to have a bug where you couldn't use EQ with ldac. Is this bug fixed with the btr7?

I don't own this product and I'm not in the market for it but I'm always happy to hear an opinion that isn't "buy this thing it's like magical musical goodness for your ears." Even a lot of people are like and respect are talking like that these days and I don't love it.

Will this one charge on USB while functioning in Bluetooth mode? (unlike the BTR5...)

I have a btr3k and I wonder if it is worth going to a btr7 or is the btr5 enough in terms of more quality and volume

@Krishnakumar-wl7ih

Жыл бұрын

Depends what your headphones are. If you are using IEMs or low powered cans, BTR5 is more than enough. If you want to use high powered cans (100 ohms impedence and more) or need the balanced 4.4mm jack, you can check BTR7.

how do you connect the app...all i get is a black screen with fiio logo.....

I have the earstudio es100 version 1, should I get the mk2 es100 or btr7, will the dac be better? I have moondrop cinnacle dusk edition. sometime I would use my Sennheiser hd700 or hd800 on it. Also, any recommendation on better iem cables?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

There is no difference in sound quality or sound signature among any of those. The Mk2 is exactly the same as the Mk1, except slight differences in build. The BTR7 has much better build than the ES100, but very limited app features. Any of these dac/amps are capable of driving the HD700 or HD800, especially if you use balanced output. There are a few companies on Amazon and elsewhere that make better feeling IEM cables. Hart Audio also makes custom cables for reasonable prices. There's no reason to buy new cables unless the ones you have are just poor quality, you need a different terminator, or don't like them aesthetically.

Could you say what is battery protection in fiio application?

Do these Bluetooth DAC/AMP dongles thingy comes with a line out anymore? Or can you use the Balanced out as a Line-Out to a deskop amps?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No line out. You can use the headphone out.

@bonked9426

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews and just turn the volume up to maximum? boy I hope overheating won't be an issue lol

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@bonked9426 Yeah, you can turn up the volume to max. I don't know how the components would react to continuous max volume playback, and I doubt Fiio bothered to test that. Frankly, the distortion is so low on the vast majority of these types of dac/amps that it's not really an issue.

You mention the Qudelix 5K a fair few times. Do you have a review planned for this? I have it myself and I’m interested in how it compares to (for example the UP4 or BTR5/7)

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Not really. I can’t really add much to the debate other than to say 1) it’s transparent and 2) its buttons are frustratingly confusing.

@adsrbad9733

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews Fair enough. I agree the buttons are a massive pain, could only get used to it by putting it at the same place all the time in my pocket (also volume control is a bit weird with iOS, volume change on both the 5K and phone itself makes it frustrating. not sure about Android). Thanks!

@michaelcorcoran8768

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews yeah I guess it's big selling point is the parametric EQ.

"In fact these are all transparent DACs" thank you.

How do I connect the BTR7 to my Sony WF1000X from my phone with UCB-C. Can it be done? Thanks!!

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No

Ive got the audio technica ATH-R70x is the btr7 a good pairing with it?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Sure

btr7 vs mojo2 , the difference between them is not big?

Thanks for clearing my head on BTR7. Was planning to buy one !! What about Questyle M15? Is it better than the others in its range?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried the M15. Whatever differences people think they hear among these dacs is incredibly little. A Dac is the least important aspect of your audio chain as any modern Dac, from $50 on up, is plenty capable of doing its job. If you really want to buy one of these types of dacs, then just look for features you want.

@prasad.k.shetty

Жыл бұрын

​@@NoThemeReviews If Dac is the least important aspect of your audio chain, what actually is? My LG g7 thinQ got damaged & I am missing that sound . So was considering to buy a dongle which can provide the similar sound output.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@prasad.k.shetty Any good DAC will convert digital to analog without alteration--and it is exceedingly rare to find any DAC which sounds different from any other. An amp's only job is to amplify the analog signal, and while SOMETIMES an amp might have a slight variation in sound, it too is incredibly rare. Some companies specifically design their amps for a particular sound tuning, such as Bellari, but the vast, vast majority of amps are dead neutral, which is how it should be. Your headphones/IEMs/speakers are the most critical aspects of your audio chain, then the format of your music, and at the very end are dac and amps. Cables don't matter either, despite what some people claim. You might be better off just buying a used or refurbished G7, or getting yours repaired, instead of wasting time and money searching for dacs and amps. If you're happy with how your G7 performed, it'll be easier to get it replaced or repaired.

@prasad.k.shetty

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews Thank you for such a detailed explanation. Will consider your suggestion . Cheers from India 🤍🙌🎧

I'm new to these kind of gadgets. I just got new IEMs, mostly for entertainment and am now thinking for using them for work as well. For work I currently use Steelseries "gaming headphones" (don't judge), mostly because I can both connect to PC and my phone at the same time and I can also have playback from both devices at the same time, which can be nice when remotely working with someone and just wanting some background music from my phone while working. This is a comfort feature I'd like to keep if possible, so I wanted to know if it is possible to connect the BTR 7 to my PC via USB, to my phone via bluetooth and listen to content on both simultaneously, or if there are any other bluetooth dac/amps that can do this?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No, you can use only one input at a time. I don’t know if any product that will let you do this, except for a mixing console.

@Naermarth

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews Thank you so much for your response!

Is this the most powerful small portable amp? I missed the part about the amp section. I’m interested in getting a powerful portable amp-dac and not spend $800.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No. The iFi Hip Dac has a measured higher power output, and the Fiio Q3 apparently has as much as the BTR7.

Regarding the displaying 44.1kHz in the wired mode, were you using exclusive mode / did you check if in shared mode if you change the sample rate of the device, did it change on the BTR7? How do you know it's that the display was wrong, rather than that was the signal being sent to it?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

I checked the playback software and the files. The signal was not “wrong”. The BTR7 does not display the actual sample rate.

@SimonP2

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about Macs but in Windows to get the maximum quality (not just 44100Khz) you have to right-click on the speaker icon in the bottom right, select Sounds, then Playback, the output device, click Properties, then Advanced. Now you can change the default format all the way up and the BTR5/7 will show what the computer is outputting, although still not what the file contains.

Would you recommend the 5K over this? I have a DT 1990 pro

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

If the confusing button layout won’t be an issue for you, then yes.

Eq should be made in the player app no?

I have the goblu, would the btr7 be an upgrade?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Unless you think the BTR7 has some features you'll use that the GB doesn't, no.

A great review. Thank you.

Does it support EQ for LDAC ?

Would you recommend upgrading if I have btr5? Aside from the higher power output, does the sound is actually better from btr5? I'm currently using a low tier IEM acoustune 1551hs. Really appreciate your view on the product

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Nope. No reason other than power output. Take with heavy doses of salt those who claim the BTR7 sounds better than anything else. They’ll rinse and repeat this with the next Dac on the market. If you’re looking for something new, I’d recommend checking out the ES100 for its app and EQ functions, or the Paw S1 for its sturdy build, EQ presets and power, or just save the money for a rainy day.

@BunkerAnon

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews nice to hear. I picked up the btr5 2021 apple for under a hundred just to try it out. I'll wait for the next upgrade afterwards.

@leonardopapantoniou4227

Жыл бұрын

I have and enjoy btr5 2021 with iems like Kato and Freya. Works well. For me BTR7 is for more hungry headphones at the expense of price and design. Btr5 is slim and, well, “sexy” while btr7 is quite sturdy. Like Beauty and the Beast or in a marvelite universe, Natasha and Banner

@davidmaskew

Жыл бұрын

I don't and haven't had the 5 but I do have this BTR7 and I would probably say unless you need the power output stick with the 5.

Hey, I just returned ifi XDSD Gryphon because I thought it's not worth it's price also not much better than BTR5. So does BTR7 sound as good as gryphon?

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

I’ve never tried the Gryphon, because of its obvious issues.

The biggest problem i have with the BTR7 compared to the BTR5, is there is NO LOW POWER WARNING. Btr5 has one.

Opinnion on Shanling UP5?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

None. I don’t have it and don’t see a need to get it myself

So How Do You Feel About Zeos Review Of The BTR7

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t watch it

The reading is actually reliable. the issue you were facing was automatic audio resampling by windows/other OSs. Try bypassing the resampling using audirvana, roon, qobuzz or tidal.

Is the btr3k good enough for flac. Iem usage?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Of course

@Katzelle3

4 ай бұрын

The impedance of your headphones is the more important factor when you choose a DAC

Purely in terms of sound quality, is there any portable solution that is strong value at 200?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

There's no difference in sound quality among the BTR7, ES100, UP4, Qudelix 5K, Lotoo S1, etc.

@Hendeaux

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, poorly worded question. Is there anything in this price range that actually sounds good (Non Bluetooth)? I got the btr7 and agree that it sounds pretty terrible. It’s convenient but unlistenable for me. Do you have to get up to a mojo for something that is actually listenable? I have Sony zr1 which are pretty efficient but I need something that isn’t just immediately fatiguing and lifeless to power it.

@Kana0211

Жыл бұрын

@@Hendeaux maybe a walkman

@Hendeaux

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I did. Used Sony nw zx507. Sounds great and highly recommend. Battery life is mid but doesn’t affect me for my use cases. I was playing the btr7 with mono only out of my iPhone and didn’t realize the day I made that comment. The btr7 actually sounds pretty solid imo but the Sony is a huge step up and their house sound is what I like.

I have fiio fh5s pro and fiio q3 dac (first version) and im using it on my pc only, can i blind buy BTR7? there will be : "wow damn, nice upgrade!" ?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No. It’s a neutral Dac. If you’re going use it only while connected to your PC, there are far better alternatives for less money.

@ultrasone8450

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews What u recomend? for sure it must have balanced jack (best 4.4mm but i got adapters) 300$ (1400 PLN) is MAX. Must be easily accessible to get btw.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@ultrasone8450 iFi Hip Dac, iFi Zen Dac, Topping EX5, are a few options.

2nd half of 2023 now, has fiio fixed the app issues? Currently using the Qudelix 5K and the app is just perfect.

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

Nope. Issues still persist. The BTR7 is buggy too; keeps giving inconsistent battery readings, part of its status screen randomly refuses to display.

@Pianist7137Gaming

11 ай бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews That's really sad, great sound and hardware spoilt by the app😅

Thank you for your review of these Bluetooth dac amps compared to the fiio btr 7 ! I own the es100 dac amp and thought that the btr 7 would make a difference! Glad to know that you Found no major differences that make the fiio byr7 stand out!

@davemelnick6977

2 ай бұрын

Is there any Bluetooth or portable dac amps that you would suggest that might make a noticeable difference! I own the 7hz Timeless AE and the Meze 99 classics headphones! I want to keep it under 300 dollars! I like a slightly warm soundstage ! Thank you for your honesty and no holes barred approach!

Talking of power and sound quality, does this have the best one in its class? Looking buy something like this, i won't be playing with its software much, just want to know if it sounds the best

@NoThemeReviews

10 ай бұрын

It sounds exactly like many other neutral dacs. None of these ChiFi companies are making any alterations to the internal dacs they’ve purchased from the respective manufacturers.

@THR_-

10 ай бұрын

Alright, I understand. Which one would you recommend?

@NoThemeReviews

10 ай бұрын

@@THR_- depends on the features you want. there really is no reason to pay more for something if it doesn't have the features you want. if all you need is something portable with an excellent app, then the earstudio es100 is fantastic. if you want more power than that but don't care about apps, then either shanling or fiio are fine.

@THR_-

10 ай бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews Thank you for taking time to respond. I'll go with the fiio, seems it's the only one to have that car mode feature, and since I'm buying it for my car, seems to me this is the best choice. Too bad about the app though

It seems they fixed a lot of the connection issues. Mine pairs to my phone as soon as I turn it on.

It's looks cool neat little pocket device.

I like your down to earth approach. I think I will take a closer look at alternatives... I like the looks of the BTR7 though 🤔

Fiio control app is very poorly developed. It can't detect the bt devices like utws3/btr7 even though they are connected. Its on android phone.

@hectorharris5650

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it seems like the app is pretty buggy.

Being able to switch USB driver versions is actually very useful if you want to use the BTR7 as a USB DAC on different devices such as a Macbook or a Nintendo Switch

Aside from size, would you say the BTR7 is a meaningful upgrade over the BTR5? Or is the BTR5 much better value?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Other than the size and purportedly higher power output, there’s nothing I’d consider as an “upgrade” on the BTR7. If neither feature matters to you, then the BTR7 is a waste of money.

@jcap8391

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews Off topic do you plan on doing a review of Jds Labs element 3?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@jcap8391 Only if someone lets me borrow it.

@jcap8391

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews I thought it was as simple as emailing them. 🤔

@joefilter2923

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews so you didn’t really consider our output on this thing? you said proportedly, so it seems like you didn’t look into it…

Thank you very much. U saved me.

Can you tell me if the Bluetooth is better than the btr 5 please.The btr5 Bluetooth is shocking

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No there is no difference in BT between the BTR5 and BTR7, and they perform the same as with cheaper alternatives.

@hixyhicks

Жыл бұрын

@No Theme Reviews Thank you ,i have £20 earbuds with better Bluetooth,which one would you say is the best Bluetooth wise.Happy new year 😀

THanks for the review , same same Fiio always buggy and please guys don't expect updates i waited for my BTR5 and finally bought a Qudelix... Tip for your future reviews , there is a way of using 2 dacs with same source on windows . Use VB-Audio VoiceMeeter it can even stream to 3 usb devices at once !

My BTR5 battery expanded after almost 3 years of use, I think it is because I mostly use it with USB cable connected to a PC and it was charging even when the machines was off since some USB ports remain active.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed the battery on my BTR7 has started to drain faster. It became more obvious a few months after I got it.

@h4tch3tt74

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews most likely that because of witeless charging. It cause the battery to heat up more because induction (wireless) charging is very inefficient. In the video when you mentioned the battery draining while it was on the pad it was because the BTR7 was using more power than the pad could feed it. Ive seen that happen to my galaxy s22 on lower output charging pads. Theheat generation of wireless charging is why i dont use it much.

how's the btr7 today in your testing?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Buggy. The battery drains very fast. I use the BTR7 for about 3 hours per day, moderate volume. In the first few months, I was getting 2-3 days between charges. Now I'm lucky to get 1-2, with no alterations in my use from before. The device will randomly choose not to charge on occasion. Sometimes the battery indicator disappears and won't reappear until I restart. I don't use fast chargers, so the battery drain is unusual; since there's no way to replace the battery, I have a sinking feeling this thing will be useless as a portable dac in the next several months.

@mark_ruiz

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews thanks for the review and feedback! Honest reviews really help us all unlike sponsored one's.

BTR7 does have a parametric EQ, though with not enough bands for everyone.

@davidmaskew

Жыл бұрын

Is that what that EQ is when it changes? I don't generally EQ but was just trying to add a little warmth with EQ and it changed the input method after I tapped it but I wasn't sure how or what it was?

I’m happy with my Qudelix 5K and iPhone. No issues with PowerDraw from my iPhone 11. Curious what iPhone are having this issue that you speak of. This DAC amp is great and has good amount of power with balanced drop 6XX. Highly recommend.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

More mainstream devices comply with Apple’s voltage specs I think, including the 5K.

120 dollars its ok for this DAC? it's worth it in 2024?

@NoThemeReviews

Ай бұрын

Yes

A video on fiio KA3 will be great if you can make one ...

Does he have nfc?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

No

Thank you.

agreed, i just bought BTR5 & fiio control app is suck..as in always says Connection Drop while BT always connected.. no workaround,,except just found out my self by disconnection+reconnenction the BTR..which is annoying, also a lil bit away from phone the BT seems to be not great signal

I love my btr7, the app can suck one though. It works fine until I get to the eq screen where the toggle is 3/4 off my screen and I can’t even turn on eq. Maybe a stylus would work, but I’d rather not bother with their mediocre eq and just use a qudelix if I need eq. The thing drives all of my stuff like a champ in balanced.

Working for a software company i do understand the pain they might feel while watching this video) Good news, there's no KZread in china, so they hardly will see this. Most claims here come from misunderstanding of audio technology and business. DAC and amp is the thing that not just affects the sound - it produces it. However, DACs alter the sound just a little bit and all modern SMD amps sound almost the same - clear and sterile. I do believe it might be impossible to tell the difference via Bluetooth - the reviewer should have a nice ear and use a direct usb connection at least. The product was released just a few months ago, so there is a hope for software updates and this might be very very hard for the Fiio software development team to proof "business value" to the management - in the end of the day it's still the best DAC BT combo on the market (due to amount of gain, built quality and QI charging). I personally admire the Fiio engineering (not software dev) team for such an insane passion for sound and solutions they've implemented to achieve the perfection. Amazing product

I have one on the way that I might return after trying for a week. The unfortunate thing is, I'm returning another FiiO (UTWS5) product because of issues. I think that the BTR7 is definitely what I'm looking for: a Bluetooth DAC that I can connect to my Macbook via USB-C if I want to (basically a Bluetooth equivalent to my Audioquest Dragonfly Red). I really hope that there's few to no connection issues, whether wired or wireless. I was also considering either buying this or iFi go blu, so if the BTR7 experience turns sour, back to the seller it goes.

@p3gasus233

11 ай бұрын

any update?

@MrSATism

11 ай бұрын

@@p3gasus233 I returned the UTWS5, and am using the FIIO BTR7 consistently. It's great to have to connect to the computer and listen via Bluetooth for my iPhone. I think this review covers everything you should know about the unit before buying.

@Hijynx87

6 ай бұрын

@@MrSATismstill using it? I love mine, makes it easy to connect to my pc or tv and have enough juice to power most headphones and all iems.

@MrSATism

6 ай бұрын

@@Hijynx87 Yeah I'm still using it, I use it for my items on the go via Bluetooth, and when I get a chance to sit down, I connect it to my computer as a dac. Because the Macbook Air dac is very good, I use the FiiO primarily as a very accurate volume controller.

The most annoying part is INCORRECT DISPLAY INFLATION about music quality, I really hate that and no hope to be fixed. I think BTR15 is better option.

The Fiio BTR 7 makes my Sony IER Z1R even more bassy that it becomes too much so it is better paired with neutral source the Qudelix 5k sounds more neutral but the Fiio BTR 7 makes my IEMs like Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite have improved bass!

@iikatinggangsengii2471

6 ай бұрын

just a reminder mp3s arent natural since production added gigantic amount of effects its why ie900 very good at it, since it makes them good instead trying to 'naturalize' them

@iikatinggangsengii2471

6 ай бұрын

but concerts are

it's a shame that the app is not up to expectations ( I cannot even make it work on any of my devices) but it is not a necessity as much as would be expected...as a plug-and-play device it does what is supposed to do, pretty well actually, it has the power to drive all of your iem or headphone, (true hear crinacle zero, akg k371, kz as16 pro in my case) the sound is punchy(mid base especially), cristal clear, the Bluetooth work flawless, its small enough to forget about it or lose it in your back pocket....in the current market context maybe the Goblu would be a modern contender(no software either...)....coming from hipdac, the Bluetooth make it a breath to use....the biggest flaw is not really the software...or the absence of it....but the battery...be ready to charge it on a daily basis.....I had to find a mini power bank (half its size) to make it really portable....nothing is perfect in life....but for 200 bucks thats not a bad deal....my grain of salt....

@Hijynx87

6 ай бұрын

Yeah the btr7 lasts about 6-8hrs it seems. Even less with battery saver mode that only charges it to 60%.

V30 vs BTR7 (Wired)?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Apples vs oranges. I love using my V30. Despite being 5 years old, the V30 has never gotten slow or buggy, so long as the installed app is optimized and well-written. If you're using one of the now defunct V-series phones, I'd just keep using that instead of buying one of these BT dacs until something with better features comes out. Eventually Android apps will stop working on the LG phones, either for hardware limitations or because Google will stop supporting the OS on them. But, there are currently very stable audio playback software for the V-series, and you don't need to update them. You can replace the battery on these phones. They have an excellent dac and amp section. They'll give you all the BT support, both transmission and reception--something that the BTR7 can't do. So...I think picking up a like-new V30/V40 for around $100 is probably a much better investment.

@audiofile1178

Жыл бұрын

@@NoThemeReviewsI'm using the V60 at the moment and perfectly happy with it's sound. It's just that after reading the BTR7 thread at Head-Fi and all the praise it was getting, I thought it might be a lot better sounding than LG. I guess I'll stick with my V60 for now. Thanks.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@audiofile1178 Not surprised. Whenever audiophile start talking about how amazing the newest Dac or amp sounds, your BS meter should be on high alert.

@BeyondFunction1

Жыл бұрын

"it's amazeballs"

@audiofile1178

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondFunction1 already bought it, definitely better than V30.

Missed a clip-on case.

My main issue is that there's no battery bypass. I use it mainly on my PC and with the constant charging even with battery protection on, it will die in a couple years. The entire device relies on this non-removable battery to function. I made a mistake buying this thing, even if it sounds good.

I think you may have a perception bias that all DAC's sound the same. You need to do a true blind A-B test while throwing in some intentional distortion. On the APP yes it could be improved quite a bit but it is not something you are in every day so the sequencing of pages are not a big deal. To me the preset EQ's are worthless. I spent time in the EQ for a custom curve to match my HIFI planar's which worked great for me. For these I needed to use the balanced port to get enough power for crisp head rattling volumes.

@NoThemeReviews

7 ай бұрын

I have never said that all dacs sound the same. In fact, I’ve many times specifically stated which dacs I thought had a perceptible difference after an A/B test. My tests are as blind as can reasonably be with 1 person. I agree about your criticism, but frankly maybe it should be aimed more directly at the outlets that promote dacs as the end all be all of the audio chain.

Have this now. Listening through 4.4mm to the Timeless. Streaming from my phone via USB. Holy dang it sounds good. I don't really even care about the app only working in BT mode, or that the sample rate does not show correctly (via USB at least, COULD be Android also messing with it), the sound quality just plain trumps those little niggles, imo.

I honestly am mystified why there seems to be so much more proliferation of these devices rather than DAPs. I mean, all you need to add here is a MicroSD slot (or built-in flash storage), a larger screen and a UI. Sure, the price would increase some, but the greater versatility would vastly outweigh that added cost. And, let's be honest, the majority of people pursuing these products are not particularly squeezed in their budgets.

@3a.m.284

Жыл бұрын

I sold off all my little dongle DACs and junk and just got a walkman dap, convenience wayyyyyy better this way

@bkkersey93

Жыл бұрын

Because the storage on these things are garbage if you want to download high res or ultra hi res streaming files. I use Amazon and Qobuz, and you can't download those files to an SD card. I almost got a DAP, but that one caveat stopped me.

@BeyondFunction1

Жыл бұрын

Right like there's some natural law preventing larger RAM storage on DAPs.

Subscribed!

I started w the first btr n just sold btr5 n got btr7. It's the worst UI. On the go, btr5 can pause music by just tapping the play button. Say to order food. Then tap again to play. For btr7, u need to tap to wake the screen...then tap again to play. Then many things I tap the play it won't play! Then I realise if u are using the phone n main screen not Spotify..it won't play! I need open the Spotify app to tap then it will play! Terrible UI! Thw software team should go abt trying to pause music to order food...talk to boss...etc. it so frustrating!

@NoThemeReviews

10 ай бұрын

Have you noticed that the BTR7 shuts down immediately after connecting? Mine does that frequently even after a full charge.

@chewkenghong

10 ай бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews my doesnt but i realised when its just turn on..abt 1 min into music there will be a wierd slip in the music...lie a note a dragged longer, after that it doesnt happen anymore. everytime when its first turned on it happened about the 1min mark. nothing major, infact you ahve to pay close atttention to notice it happening.

Hope qudelix makes a bigger 5k.

Timestamps please.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

They are in the description section

Own Redsone es100, btr5, btr7, ifi go blu, and qudelix 5k. es100 was really good for first gen bluetooth dac/amp go bour work great but has zero app support. btr5/7 was good for being long bettery life with good power. App is sh1t but it works very well without app as well. Qudelix was pain in the ass for me. App is great but I had to replace qudelix twice for exact same defect reason. I lose audio signal and gives me mosquito sound when ever I set my output type to auto. I can only selec either 3.5mm or 2.5mm at a time but can't let qudelix figure it out. Same defect happens again on my replaced qudelix so they are out of my list. I don't care how great the app is if my products does not work as intended. I tried to support a product of my own Country but I rather stick to a product that works well with sh1tty app, than a product that does not work but has great app.

I seem to be chasing and endless loop looking for a DAC that doesn't have some significant drawbacks or faults. At least this doesn't have the cable / connector issues that too many others have. Not having had a DAC before I don't know whether to believe your comments about zero difference in sound quality, or the word of a myriad of others who say its the be all and end all.

@NoThemeReviews

7 ай бұрын

There’s an easy solution to that question. Watch my video on how to create your own A/B test bench for dacs for under $25, and you can do real comparisons yourself. The myriad of others refuse to put in that minimal effort and continue to claim absurd sonic improvements with every new Dac released. I continually tell people in my videos to do their own proper A/B tests. How often do you see the other side offering a repeatable testing method that could undermine their own conclusions?

Ouch! Your point of view on this product is refreshing but comes across a bit Elitist and high minded. Like other reviewers are beneath you. I get it. Your striving for something more concrete and less emotional. You are like the MR. Spock of the audio reviewer world. Thanks for the review. I did learn from it. And I am debating returning my BRT 7 while i still can.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Beats being a random red shirt for sure. BTW, I uploaded a few updates about the BTR7: one about the flaky UI that keeps omitting the battery meter, and now the battery lasts at best for 5 hours.

You're a tough customer. Have you ever gushed over anything? If so what?

I already bought this a couple of days before seeing this review. I agree with pretty much everything you say in this review. The app is terrible with little use. I find the EQ very fiddly especially when there seems to be two ways to do it and I seem to randomly change the type but that may also be because I tend not to use EQ. I also don't think any of the presets are very good. I don't know if it's because I've updated it but it now has 3 user EQs. The first thing I noticed was the device wasn't showing the correct info when connected by USB and as you also say the screen is wasted as it's mostly taken up with the codec type and there's no way to change any of it. I'm pretty happy with the device itself other than the info thing. The build quality is great and I like a flat/neutral sound, I have a few options to listen with so I prefer this rather than an EQ for each. I completely forgot about the Earstudio device and it's good to see they are still about. I had one years ago and I was impressed by it but unfortunately I lost it on a trip and never replaced it back then. Do they have a balanced output these days too?

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the ES100 has balanced output.

No clip. Sad.

All signs for this company scream that they are audio enthusiasts focus on the electronics and the design of the device and have no clue how to program or do ux in programs

I had 2 Fiio K9 Pros. Both crapped out after a couple of weeks. I would avoid Fiio like the plague.

Just tried the FiiO Control app yesterday for the first time and had zero issues, probably because I`m not using crApple. FiiO has a bigger market than the US, they don`t give you special treatment by including a crApple cable just because crApple insists on being incompatible with EVERYTHING. There is another version that includes a crApple cable, and it costs more, probably because everything crApple is overpriced. It 100% should come with a clip though, that`s some bs, it might not fit on a shirt, but it`s not too big to put on a belt.

@invictusdomini8624

Жыл бұрын

>crApple Bane of the tech world. Internet has been Eternal September since the iPhone was released.

@theonlyegg

4 ай бұрын

Very mature.

I had a BTR15 that was so buggy. Couldn’t use EQ without a restart. Software was truly garbage and the volume control was terrible. Qudelix 5x is now my daily and the way it works with my phone's volume controls is 100x better than Fiio.

Not gonna buy the the ES100 because MicroUSB is a pain in the ass

Out the box the 3.5mm sounds more balanced than the 4.4 pentaconn. I'm kinda disappointed because i run my iems in balanced mode and its not impressive so far. But it really shines in 3.5mm which is a little odd

Finally the 1st....Yay

No offence, but its the problem of your stupid iphone, they decide not to work well with anything. The fiio apps works like a charm in android. I have no problem with android device, i am a OG btr5 user. I do agree with your comments in other issues the btr5 has/had. Also thanks for the review. A small critique would be a mic test with the btr7, because i personally use my btr5 as a mic and it works well for me.

@MuhammadKharismawan

Жыл бұрын

Does it have noise canceling? I tried using my BTR3 on very busy location and the caller can't hear sh1t because everything pass through. Ended up swapping to my sony TWS and we can have a clear convo.

@mokisan

Жыл бұрын

@@MuhammadKharismawan no the mic is good. But it picks up the background noises too. I wouldnt say the opposite end couldnt hear me. They could but it wasnt that good. The sony linkbuds imo are the best for mic quality. They are nothing sort of exceptional.

@MuhammadKharismawan

Жыл бұрын

@@mokisan haha funny I was using a Sony TWS as well, WFSP900, to note I was on concert condition and the other end can't her me at all, with the Sony they can hear me just fine. Enthusiast forgot just how convenient noise canceling on both the earphone and mic side, They are livesavers at times

@mokisan

Жыл бұрын

@@MuhammadKharismawan imo the linkbuds S blows everything out of water. They are so good give it a shot.

@MuhammadKharismawan

Жыл бұрын

@@mokisan for me, I don't need tws that often so I'm still staying, besides I need the waterproofing as I used it for swimming.

You need better headphones or hearing the sound is not same as others mentioned or BTR5 many users have mentioned this

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Here we go again with the same old bullshit. My gear collection dwarfs anything other reviewers and commentators have, so don't even start down that road. My hearing is perfectly fine, thanks for asking. I'm quite aware that "many users" believe their dacs sound different. You and they are flat wrong. Live in your happy beliefs if you want, but I'm not joining in the delusion.

@michaelcorcoran8768

Жыл бұрын

This guy owns countless premium pairs of headphones and basically headphones and iems at every possible price point. And yes there are plenty of positive reviews but most of them profit off selling you this very device. If you want a positive review of this device, there's 100,000 to choose from. I'm grateful someone's actually willing to stand in front of the hype machine and lose a little skin. I have no opinion on the device because I haven't tried it, I'm strictly responding to some of your spurious allegations about no theme reviews.

I have the btr3 and it sounds nice with my iems but a bit thin , so the btr7 with more power should make sound fuller and better.

I tried BTR7 for a few days and it was THE WORST and annoying experience I even had with any portable gear. It also doesn't sound good, USB DAC mode is a joke. I own iFi Gryphon and wanted something smaller for travelling, something with an EQ which my other portable units don't have (Questyle M15 and Violectric Chronos). But also EQ in BTR7 is horrible - degrades the sound quality a lot. STRONGLY AVOID.

Too much water

Thank you for the review. I think fiio is too lazy (or just doesn't have the know-how) to correctly develop the app. It's a hard pass for me.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

I’d put it to laziness. I’m pretty sure they contract out the app to a small developer. It’s really too bad since if Fiio put in some effort, they’d have a good combo.

While I appreciate people pushing back against marketing BS… some of your statements are inflammatory because you are claiming they said something they didn’t. The 3 levels of independent audio architect is a claim they made. They never said it was unique or novel or special. They just said they have it. Meaning if you are expecting it then rest assured it is included. Your rant about how they are claiming to have invented something new there didn’t apply. While I hate reviews that kiss the OEMs ass the entire time… reviews that go the opposite extreme aren’t engaging either.

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

No? Funny how their marketing angle is intended to give that implicit impression. Regardless, I never said they said it was unique, only questioned their advertising about it and why it is unique. After all, they themselves claim the architecture will produce all the detail…sooo, maybe take my comments in context.

@crelliseng

11 ай бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews "I have no idea why Fiio thinks this 'three level architecture' is unique". You literally said that in the video. Anyhow, if you scroll down their page they tell you that using the ESS DAC + lowpass filter + THX amp is what gets you "every last detail". While I personally believe that is trending on the same level of supplements claiming to "Boost energy" because they contain caffeine or taurine, I read it as them crediting the ESS+THX combo to the performance quality. I can agree with you though that it's unclear what was "innovative" about that architecture since it's basically the exact same pairing as the THX Onyx released 6 months prior. Although the Onyx wasn't balanced so maybe that's where they are taking credit?

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

That could be. All these ChiFi companies copy each other, and it’s really murky if they all use a pool of components or designs. Unfortunately, Fiio has a history of overinflating the specs of their gear, and it’s really too bad they didn’t spend more time perfecting the software. That’s what’s missing from all audio gear: software stability and desktop software integration. Seems like an obvious opportunity lost. 🤷

Some good points. But you repeat them over and over. “Arguably more power”? That statement really showed your bias. It’s significantly more powerful, and can be used as a balanced power amp. It would take way too much time to highlight your other misleading and truly false statements. Suffice to say, you’ll never change. You lack credibility. You’re only out for clicks and likes. Thumbs down. 👎🏽 Hater.

@harackmw

Жыл бұрын

lol, what? If he was out for clicks and likes he would have said things to make you feel better, judging from your comments that didn't happen, in which case that actually gives him more credibility. You must be new here; if you want those reviews that make you feel better about redundant purchases and incremental upgrades there are plenty of other channels for that.

@edmundgil6008

Жыл бұрын

@@harackmw You both can ride this guy. You clearly dig him. He’s a horrible reviewer. He misleads and argues irrelevant points. He makes false statements. Nobody cares about marketing brochures or company statements about their products. They are all quite misleading. It’s impossible to audibly compare these units accurately given their hardware format. He ignores power, which is hugely important. Why? Because he wants to mislead guys like you who happily and unintelligently eat up all of his trash.

@harackmw

Жыл бұрын

@@edmundgil6008 lol dude, are you on something? You basically stated what he stated in the video: marketing is misleading, it is hard to compare hardware as they sound so similar in AB tests. It does not matter if you already know that, plenty of people don't in this hobby and need to be reminded. Sheesh. And what exactly is bad about his review? Power? Who cares? If I want power I use my full desktop amp, that is obviously implied by the fact that this is a portable device, again, what are you going on about. Anyway, thanks for the laughs and entertainment regardless.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

@Edmund Gil Why are you so emotional? You’re acting like I barged into your house, kicked your baby, and pissed on your couch. I said this thing “arguably” has more power because none of these Chinese manufacturers have been particularly forthright about power output in the past-not Fiio, Topping, SMSL, etc. That’s why there are varying complaints about their amps not apparently being powerful enough for some people. I never said it wasn’t or that it didn’t drive my gear-and in fact I clearly stated it did. As for my other “misleading and truly false statements”-you know, this is the same bullshit charge leveled against me when I reviewed the BTR5. Some of you people are so easily triggered by not hearing what you dearly believe that you’re quick to become antagonistic, confrontational, and outright insidious. No, I didn’t mislead or make any false statements. I simply said things you didn’t want to hear. You fanbabies need a crash course on the definition of “bias”. And lots of Xanax. Grow up. Be an adult.

@taylorbergman9898

Жыл бұрын

@Edmund Gil Lol. You must have clicked another video or had an epileptic episode. He did say it has more power than the others. That’s such a weird thing to dig your heels in about since HE CLEARLY SAID IT. 😱 It’s funny you got so triggered but then too lazy to tell him what he lied about. Let me guess: he lied because you think the btr7 sounds the best, and clearly is better, and the app works fine for you…right? I mean, there’s literally nothing else here for you to complain about. He’s right about the build, the size, the accessories, the marketing, the measurements, the Bt connections, the app, the menus, etc. Even Fiio acknowledged on their website that the btr7 doesn’t display accurate sample rate. Sooooooo. Yeah. 😀 Im just super happy to see how thermo you fanboys get. You guys talk like you have some special truth, and can’t see how you’re only showing the total bias you harbor. It’s a fine balance, I know. Must be tough for you

There have been a number of updates to the app - the screen now shows the correct sampling rate, there are 3 user modes, now has Parametric EQ. It now links BT seamlessly, leatherette case with clip is available, Etc etc. Time to update this 'review/rant' Oh and If you cannot read the screen, I suggest that you have your eyes tested - I wear glasses and contacts and can read everything fine

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

You must be very proud of Fiio. Finally they’ve fixed bugs that should never have persisted. Fanboys gotta fanboy.

@LDWilliams

11 ай бұрын

@@NoThemeReviews not at all, i just don't Hate them like you come across as being. But them that seems to be your theme, to hate

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

I don’t hate them. I kept them, just as I said in the review. Not only did I mention the positives but I also clearly explained what’s wrong with this thing. The problem with fanboyism is that any negatives mentioned is “hating”. It’s no excuse that years later they fixed some of the issues, and no amount of claiming I’m a hater will change that. Some of you audiophiles distort reality to suit your peculiar preconceptions-which is precisely why audiophiles are ridiculed. Try to be less emotionally attached to gear, and more circumspect.

@LDWilliams

11 ай бұрын

I'm no audiophile, only just started. But I can spot a reviewer who builds his fan base based on snide comments and the like. Whilst a lot of your content was factual, the manner in which it was delivered left much to doubt

@NoThemeReviews

11 ай бұрын

I see. So the facts are generally accurate, you just dislike my tone. And because you dislike the tone, you take the opportunity to denigrate me whenever you want. That makes sense. It never ceases to amaze me how often some of you complain about HOW something is said rather than the content-almost as if you place more emphasis on the packaging than on the product. I’m sorry you have such a negative view of my channel. But I have as much a right to convey my thoughts as anyone else who spends their hard earned money. I don’t go around harassing, demeaning, vilifying, or personally attacking other audiophiles even when they say outrageous things, but I find that a lot of you guys struggle to reciprocate. Being critical of any product is essential to improving that product, hopefully getting manufactures to do better, and to get prospective buyers to be more skeptical about the deluge of praise. I hope you don’t waste too much money in this money pit hobby. I hope you find enjoyment. But I’m disappointed that despite your recent foray into this subject, you’re showing a level of personal antagonism that may compel you to shut out voices you disagree with for childish reasons-such as tone.

You dont even give a better choice , so this doesnt help with this review.

@NoThemeReviews

22 күн бұрын

There are countless dozens of these kinds of devices and more coming out each month. I suggest you do some research to figure out what suits your needs.

@Angel-AbC9

22 күн бұрын

@NoThemeReviews this is why there's many you tube reviewers and advisors opinions and us consumers watch it to get an angle and advise about the product and of course at the end the consumer can make own choice , but remember you have a channel to help people or else it won't be a review and your opinion type of a channel.

@NoThemeReviews

22 күн бұрын

@@Angel-AbC9 Did you watch the entire video? I did in fact compare against several other devices. Every review that anyone does is an opinion. That’s what a review is-someone’s opinion based on their experience. I frankly don’t under why you think a review must tell someone what ELSE to buy. Maybe you guys are just used to reviewers constantly peddling one product or another so you think a video should tell you where to spend your money. I don’t do that and I’ve no intention of doing that. If that bothers you, clearly you have plenty of other channels to choose from who will gladly tell you what to purchase.

@Angel-AbC9

22 күн бұрын

@NoThemeReviews lol you misunderstood my words , I plainly said we us consumers at the end will make our own choice , but the reviews are there to give there opinion so we may like it and agree or we won't, no one should watch a video and buy because a reviewer said buy this and not that although they may hint which is better and which is a ripoff . On side note , take a breath and no need for a non-understanding mild aggressive response , smile and have a good day.

@NoThemeReviews

21 күн бұрын

@@Angel-AbC9 😂 hilarious! I might have misunderstood your statements, but only because you were very unclear. As for “mildly aggressive”…you’re being VERY touchy and reading way too much into it. 🤷

Jesus Christ, the overwhelming pedantry of this review.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

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Very poor review. Your comments are nit picking and poorly valuable for a comparison with the competition in the market segment.

@NoThemeReviews

Жыл бұрын

Yeah right. I’m the only one actually talking about daily usability. Amazing how some of you people take issue with me commenting on a product I PAID MONEY FOR. Bitch to those reviewers who get this gear for free then don’t tell you all the damn problems.

@jimgordon8376

Жыл бұрын

Lol. You watched none of this video apparently. The fact that it sounds the same as things half the price, has the worst app in the market segment, is buggy, and doesn’t really do anything better except a bit more power…seems to me he hit all the salient points. You’re just butt hurt. Get therapy.