Frostmourne steals the full soul, but because Uther asked the light to save his soul, it got split.

@tarmok3756

3 жыл бұрын

It is not as easy as "asking the light to save ones soul" Uther is a devote servant of the light a pure man of righteousness and as such Frostmourne was unable to claim all of his soul.

@eldritchagent9625

3 жыл бұрын

@@tarmok3756 I think it’s a combination of both. - The light intervened to save the soul of a devoted follower. - Frostmourne could’ve taken it in it’s entirety.

@gmoddude12

3 жыл бұрын

@@eldritchagent9625 yeah i also like to think that his devotion and service to the light and goodness is what saved a part of his soul here

@DrunkCrazyMonkey

3 жыл бұрын

We still don’t know how frostmourne powers work still. If that were the case how come we see uther soul multiple times in wotlk?

@GradyBroyles

3 жыл бұрын

hmm. I think the *exact* answer to this is still to be discovered. But Y'all may be right. That's as good an explanation as I've heard yet.

Muradin Bronzebeard: The blade is Cursed Arthas: 1:33

Arthas (the one with the white long hair) was a good person who inherited Uther's (the mc in this cinematic) believes/morals and a strong Paladin who served the Light until he got corrupted down the line. The path he took to try and stop Mal'Ganis (a Dreadlord/Demon) who he thought was responsible for the Scourge (the undead) and the death of his people, is what led him to pick up the cursed blade Frostmourne (the one you see sucking half of Uther's soul) which slowly consumed him. Frostmourne not only absorves other people's souls, but also consumes the wearer's own soul bit by bit until nothing's left. This is the reason why his hair started turning white. He was originally blonde before picking up the sword. The action itself was noble since all he tried to do, he did to try and save his kingdom. He even states back in Warcraft III that he would do anything, even condemning his soul, if that meant the salvation of Lordaeron (his homeland). Arthas: "Now, I call out to the spirits of this place, I will give anything or pay any price, if only you will help me save my people." Even after he fell down the path of righteousness and became the Lich King (the King of the Undead), the remnants of his soul/being still held back the Scourge from destroying Azeroth (the world) by confining them all into one place (Northrend). To be honest, I think this was serious considering he was never judged and might have not even been assigned to the Maw (Hell) but another place for his redemption which I feel like he deserves since he was not himself when he did those atrocities. Also, remember in the beginning when Uther says: "Light, save my soul."? When he is killed by Arthas, half of his soul (yellow) is saved by the Light and sent to Bastion while the other half (blue) is trapped inside Frostmourne (the sword). This explains why Uther can't let go and why he acted the way he did. In the end of the Wrath of the Lich King, when Frostmourne is broken and all the souls are set free, Uther's other half forgave Arthas. Devos (the angel) also had a part in how this all unfold. The fact his soul is "broken" and her influence, made Uther throw him into the Maw (the equivalent of Hell). It was something no one was expecting coming from him since he is one of the most righteous characters in all of Warcraft. That's the reason he went to Bastion in the first place.

@Rysix19

3 жыл бұрын

"but also consumes the wearer's own soul bit by bit until nothing's left" if that was true then arthas wouldnt end up in shadowlands right

@GradyBroyles

3 жыл бұрын

was he really "good" before? I mean... it was the flaws in his personality that were exploited. Arthas just had what was already in him exploited, amplified and weaponized.

@wabachi

3 жыл бұрын

@@GradyBroyles even older paladins like uther can have flaws, he was very young, but having flaws doesnt make him less "really good" ...

@GradyBroyles

3 жыл бұрын

​@@wabachi I think Arthas's character flaws are a bit different. He was easily overcome by rage and a desire for revenge that Arthas told himself was really justice. That self deception and penchant for revenge are what was exploited to draw him into taking up Frostmourne. He was never *that* good.. (imo) Now that you mention it (and thank you, BTW) An interesting, and probably critical difference between Uther, the paladin and Arthas the paladin was Uther really all about retribution (justice) and Arthas was all about retribution (revenge). and now that I think about it... it's the same character flaws that allowed Annakin Skywalker to be seduced to joining the Sith. I guess "Everyone's the hero of their own story" after all.

@wabachi

3 жыл бұрын

@@GradyBroyles the thing is, both Arthas and Annakin 's corruption started way before the "point of no return" to say like that, in Arthas's case long before frostmourn that's why his bits of rage, that's how those pesky overgrown bats work you know.... (just look at what was it scarlet crusaders? xD )

I love this cinematic, definitely fueled the Shadowlands hype. Your reaction was awesome, keep up the great content!

@GradyBroyles

8 ай бұрын

such a trip to read this comment 2 years later. oh how things have changed, ya know? 😂

@Kain366

6 ай бұрын

A great setup for a nothing burger pay up.

He... was... my... student! Check out "the burning of stratholme" for a bit more interaction between good Arthas and Uther. Ingame cinematic, i think there are about 3 different versions of it now, but the dialogue is all the same.

@stanleyho8009

3 жыл бұрын

Good Arthas 🤪

@johncarter449

3 жыл бұрын

Arthas was the first victim the moment he took Frostmourne.

@rumland

3 жыл бұрын

Stratholme was a turning point for Arthus, sad part is if Uther or Jaina would have simply stepped forward at that time instead of turning their backs on Arthus then he might have been saved.

@drudan8957

3 жыл бұрын

@@rumland It wasn't a turning point. He did what he thought had to be done. He was always like that, the turning point was picking up frostmourne.

@rumland

3 жыл бұрын

@@drudan8957 No it was a turning point, Arthas was an emotionally weak man, that was the point where uther and jaina put a distance between them selfs and him. Frostmourn was another turning point, but Arthas might have never picked it up if he had uther or jaina by his side. Culling the city wasn't the issue, the problem is the distance that was created between Arthas and Uther and Jaina on that day.

Bastion was one of my favorites of the Afterlife! Loved your reaction!

By the way, yes you can be wing lady, they added some cloaks that are bright white wings

I've been watching the videos where you react to wow cinematics. You are making very good guesses when it come to lore and linking events together. For a new wow player, it's impressive imho I think i'd be lost and clueless if i were a new player. GJ

You should watch Fall of the lich king cinematic(remastered one prefferably) to understand what happened with the Lich King at the end of Wrath of the lich king expansion, who became the next lich king etc.

The significance of this is that they snatched Arthas's soul and dropped him directly into the Maw. The way it's supposed to work, EVERY soul goes before the Arbiter for judgment.

@poro9084

3 жыл бұрын

he would propably be send to revendreth, yeah, there was also chance for maw - but he was expertly manipulated by kelthuzad and burning legion

@drudan8957

3 жыл бұрын

@@poro9084 I 100% think he would have been sent to ravendreath.

For context, Arthas, who was corrupted and taken over by/became the Lich King is a fan favorite and beloved character that made next to no major appearances in the game or out of it, in books, lore or otherwise since 2010 until now. Seeing him, along with Uther (The one who threw him into the Maw) his teacher and uncle-like figure, was personally very heart wrenching yet filled myself and others with this melancholic feeling and excitement for what's to come. Seeing Arthas' body plummet to the place where only the most absolutely irredeemable souls go, was very emotional, given before being taken ahold of by the Lich King, he was an extraordinarily brave, courageous, loving, charismatic, devoted young man. Blizzard assured us they didn't want to ruin the perfect story they had already basically wrapped up with him in Shadowlands but I have a feeling we will be seeing him again. Hopefully the righteous paladin on his way towards some sort of redemption or peace. it's also worth noting that upon his death/sentence to the maw, as the lore stated before Shadowlands, he manifested into a childlike state, tormented by all the ungodly, inhumane atrocities he committed while under control. Left crying, alone and burdened by images of the countless souls he was forced to bring an end and tormented by numerous horrors and specters of the Afterlife.

@josephcraffigan8489

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe magni will show up and everybody will be friends again ahah

That was Uther the Lightbringer, first Paladin, Highlord of the Knights of the Silver Hand, the order of Paladins. He trained Prince Arthas Menethil to become a paladin. He was Arthas' mentor until Arthas gave up his soul to claim to Frostmourne and became a death knight. Arthas then killed his father and ransacked his kingdom, killing its citizens and raising them into undeath before returning to Northrend and donning the Helm of Domination, merging with the Lich King. When Arthas killed Uther, his soul was split in two. The compassionate side stayed as a ghost on Azeroth, while the vengeful side went to the Shadowlands. Uther cast Arthas' soul into the Maw, which is like the Hell of Warcraft. So that is basically what happened. I am not choosing the Kyrian of Bastion as my covenant, I am going with the Venthyr of Revendreth.

@nergal9668

3 жыл бұрын

One small correction. When Arthas kills someone with Frostmourne it absorbs the person's soul. Uther's soul, however, was split in two causing only half of it to be absorbed by Frostmourne while the other half went to Bastion. This entire cinematic takes place before (and somewhat during) Wrath of the Lich King. When Arthas was defeated Frostmourne was shattered and the souls it had absorbed were freed, at which point that half of Uther's soul became a ghost on Azeroth.

@pachecronico

3 жыл бұрын

Arthas (The Lich King) is the most popular villain in Warcraft series. He was boyfriend of Jaina Proundmoore in life. You watched what happened in the past. I guess you didn't notice, but he is in the video of Sylvanas, and he also killed her with the same sword.

@pachecronico

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, and you can try to get his horse on Ice Crown Citadel. That scene where he says "there is only darkness before me" happens in the game. But there is a difference, because his father appears. I guess they changed what really happened.

@adam92109

3 жыл бұрын

when he purged the city it wasnt to raise them as undead, he didnt even have frostmourne at that time. He knew the plague had gotten into the city and decided to purge the city before it could spread. He thought that is what needed to be done, he wasnt evil at this time. Arthas then chased Mal'Ganis to northrend to seek vengence for his people. He then found frostmourne and was slowly corrupted by the sword which whispered to him leading him to icecrown where he put on the helm of domination making him the lich king.

@nergal9668

3 жыл бұрын

@@adam92109 He was talking about Lorderon, not Stratholme

Bastion (the area they are in) is located in the Shadowlands. It will be the first zone we go through. The Kyrian covenant is there.

yes it is, is the first area we player start the journey, Bastion

I have to say...I don't normally watch these kind of videos. I'm not a fan of the whole "react" trend, but there is such an honest curiosity in your work. I love the simplicity of the setup and the almost haunting intro/outro music. Totally a fan (and now subscriber)...keep 'em coming!

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@pachecronico

3 жыл бұрын

The intro music is amazing, I love it!

Damn, the "wing lady" looks so much like Sharon Stone.

You need to react to the Wrath of the Lich King expansion cinematic. Still holds up to all the others after 12 + years.

So the scene the video starts out on and returns to after a bit is an event that occurred in Warcraft III. This is when Arthas kills Uther in order to retrieve the urn holding his (Arthas') father's ashes. Frostmorne doesn't steal half of a person's soul, but rather steals the soul outright which powers the sword and the wielder. Due to reasons we don't fully know (AFAIK) yet, Uther's prayer to the Light allowed part of his soul to be sent to the Shadowlands like normal. This part, however, was purely his retributive, Paladin self who only wished for justice. In various parts of WoW players have been able to interact with the part of Uther who was sealed within Frostmorne. This part is much more like Uther's actual self as he comes to view and informs the players that Arthas is as much of a victim of the blade as he is. This tear is most likely why Uther still retained the wound from Frostmorne even in the Shadowlands. The scene where Uther and Devos go to claim Arthas's soul is straight from a WotLK cinematic. And Bastion is one of the realms of the Shadowlands, which is what Sylvanas ripped a portal of sorts to in the launch cinematic. The other realms that are featured are Ardenweald, Maldraxxus, Revendreth, and the Maw. Typically a person dies, angels from Bastion retrieve their souls, they're brought to the Shadowlands where their soul is judged, and they are placed in an appropriate realm. Those who lived holy, self-less lives would go to Bastion, those with a draw to nature would go to Ardenweald, those who showed might in battle were sent to Maldraxxus, and those who lived sinful lives were sent to Revendreth to repent and, under normal circumstances, they would then be sent to an appropriate realm once they've repented. The problem is that at some point the Jailer had all souls get sent straight to the Maw, his realm, and the leaders of Revendreth began using the penitent souls basically as anima batteries and then throwing them to the Maw after they've served their usefulness. Other things are the forests of Ardenweald have been dying due to a drought in anima, Maldraxxus' inner factions are warring with each other, and there's a split between the people of Bastion (as you can see in this video).

Frostmourne takes souls, it doesn't split them but in Uther's case because of his devotion to the light, it was able to save a part of him before becoming apart of the blade itself.

@vhaelen326

8 ай бұрын

huh, i guess sylvanas mustve been praying alot then aswell?^^

Uther the Deathbringer :) the road to evil is paved with good intentions.

Goosebumps. Every time. Genius Trailer. I guess you need a lot of backstory to get the emotional impact xD.

All the new shadowlands shorts are about the 4 different covenants. They all 4 make up the Shadowlands. Loving the reactions. I always enjoy someone taking the time to learn about WoW

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks!

Yep, that was Arthas and the otherworldly sword Frostmourne. After we defeated Arthas in Ice Crown Citadel, Devos one of the Paragons and Uther the Lightbringer ( a very important Paladin in the WoW history) casted him in to the Maw ( realm of the Jailer, meant to be like Hell basically.) Also yes, Devos did go against the Archon's wishes which results in her becoming part of the " fallen" cult.

Arthas might be a good audiobook to check out or picking up the novel. That gives a good run down of the Lich King and relivent characters leading into shadowlands.

The problem here is that Uther and Devos trew Arthas directly into the Maw (a place of eternal suffering) instead of bringing him to the Arbiter (the Arbiter judges the souls and sends them in the corresponding afterlife, witch we can see 5 of in the Shadowlands expansion but there are a lot more).

Yes. That was Frostmourne. Does it split people? Um, apparently. I'm not sure we knew that exactly until recently. I played Wrath (at the time) and don't remember that detail. But someone with more functioning grey matter than I could correct me if I'm wrong.

@Shauny7488

3 жыл бұрын

Uther, being such a devout and selfless servant of the light had some of his soul saved by the light itself, so Frostmourne couldnt get all of it. That's what Devos meant when she said his soul feels broken.

I get fucking goosebumps watching this one.

I will chose bastion as for now is the best option for protection warrior, but Venthyr is my favorite one

That shiny sword is very hungry

I'll probably be taking them as the covenant for my Paladin

Today is the release day of shadowlands, just in time

bastion really just exists to fullfill the fantasy of being carried around by giant blue muscle mommies with wings and i can respect that tbh

What is the music in the beginning called?

Uther was a paladin in life and has a strong bond to the light so the light saved half his soul from being sucked into Frostmourne. Normally Frostmourne would absorb the entire soul. The great thing about this cinematic is that when the players killed Arthas in Wrath of the Lich King he (like you here see) says "I see only Darkness before me" and now after 12 years (in reality) you finally see what it was he saw

So from my understanding Uthur felt betrayed by Arthus and wanted to see him punished but Uthur died before anyone really knew that Arthus was being manipulated. So when Uthur died frost mourn took half if his soul and the half we see in this video went to bastion. When Uthur hesitates to cast Arthus in the Maw that's when his soul combines and he realizes that wasnt really Arthus's will while as the Lich king, but Devos was able to still push Uthur over the edge. Really alot to unpack from this cinematic

Fun fact: Frostmourne is the name of the Aussie WoW server, FYI.

@rhoxx7166

3 жыл бұрын

One of them at least, maybe the largest, and mainly alliance

I just wanna say that every time I imagine a final fantasy player, I imagine something like that

Man can't wait, 4 more hours, trying to level a priest to use in leveling and go with Bastion of course, it's only fitting. And yes that's Arthas as the Lich King, and his death was basically in Icecrown (in-game you killed him in the raid in Icecrown, you see a cinematic of laying there, you should watch it for reference) i hope you will watch the Shadowlands cinematics soon!

FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS

Frostmourne usually steals their entire soul, though Uther was without a doubt one of most devoted users of the Light, and when he died he prayed for the Light to save his soul. The part of Uther that was trapped within the blade actually became somewhat sympathetic towards Arthas, so it'll be interesting to see how this develops during the Shadowlands!

@vhaelen326

8 ай бұрын

i would guess frostmourne ALLWAYS steals only about half of a soul, i mean sylvanas soul was split also

Imagine the Runecarver is Hattori Hanzo kekw

Bastion is one of the 4 realms of the Shadowlands. souls of the just and the true go there. that is why Uther went there after Arthas killed him. later on, when you watch the others, Maldraxxus, Ardenwield and Revendreth, you will see souls of different people and why they were sentenced to go there.

You should watch some old stuff or Nobbel87 story videos

Frostmaurn steals entire souls, only Uthers last prayer saved the larger part of his.

*WoD Gul'dan* : So what are you in for? *Our Gul'dan* : I brought the orcs into azeroth, killed nearly every human and eventually was betrayed by Kil'Jaedin at the temple I tried to hide from him in. *WoD Gul'dan* : Same thing, although our master didn't kill me, this stupid champion did. *Our Gul'dan* : Champion? What were they like? *WoD Gul'dan* : No idea, but they were helped by a human mage and a green skinned orc. *Flashbacks to the birth of Thrall* *Our Gul'dan* : No... *WoD Gul'dan* : Oh, yes....

Are u gonna play shadowlands ? I played 10 hours of it so far , seems good

I honestly think that Sylvanas has some sort of ulterior motive with helping the Jailor. She always felt like her chance to kill Arthas, to get revenge for turning her into a banshee, was stolen from her. Now she's literally in the maw with the jailor, where Arthas' soul was put, and I can almost guarantee she would want to be torturing him or something to make up for his death being taken from her.

@boozie773

3 жыл бұрын

What’s potentially interesting is if the jailer was manipulating Arthas via the helm of domination then he wasn’t necessarily responsible for his crimes so the Jailer is actually who Sylvanas should blame but she is serving him.

@TheDarkEmporer

3 жыл бұрын

​@@boozie773 This! She is certainly trying to use the Jailer for something. She has every reason to hate the Jailer just as much as Arthas if not more. Also they have been very careful on their wording when describing the two. Words like allies that imply a partnership more than a fully submissive position from Sylvannnas.

i fell sad about arthas :C one of best lore char

Пипяу ты круто выглядишь)

I would highly recommend you watch the video, Arthas did nothing wrong - kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4V41Lqlote8mtY.html&ab_channel=hirumaredx this will fill in alot of the background for you to understand everything that lead to this point for Arthas and Uther. It is great for context, whether you watch it on or behind the stream.

Have you watched the harbingers?

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet! They're this kind of style too, right?

@TheKhashan

3 жыл бұрын

@@GalaxyAUS Yeah

Devos goes evil and is a end boss in a dungeon.

okay cool but what does Ja rule think?

Uther unwittingly has done a greatly evil deed. Despite him qualifying for immediate ascension himself, he has denied Arthas not only his fair judgment, but also his chance at redemption as well. The Maw is supposed to be only for those who were judged poorly, and were irredeemable as well. Further, Uther is unaware that the sins of Arthas as the Lich King, were done against his will, via the Helm of Domination. Arthas is innocent.

@GuerillaBunny

3 жыл бұрын

Arthas was proud and driven by anger even before he got the Helm. As I recall, he was warned, multiple times by multiple people, that chasing Frostmourne is folly, but he did it anyways. Also, even according to this video, Uther did not qualify for ascension. It was granted to him by a kyrian who herself disagreed with how things are done. Don't ask me how that stuff works. I'm not that deep into the lore. But some aspects of the story unfold further in Shadowlands.

@Tijuanabill

3 жыл бұрын

@@GuerillaBunny Being driven by anger is a far cry from being the Lich King. Also, he wasn't driven by anger at the Culling of Strathholme. He did the right thing there, but Jaina and Uther didn't have the info he had. I don't know what Uther's ascension has to do with my point.

@KushinadaKai

3 жыл бұрын

As far as i enjoyed whole story, i believe Arthas was evil not because he choose and enjoyed, but because he was weak. Because his prideful and easily manipulative nature he fall to plots of dreadlords and later blade's will. He nearly killed Muradin (we thought he died at that time) despite of his warnings about his path, change of character etc. And let's not forget because of his evil and sadistic actions (he was completely under control at that point) Ranger General Slyvanas was tortured instead of getting a swift death and became a banshee. But honestly he was easy to control because he "believed" that he was in control while in reality he reduced a mere puppet. That was Arthas Menethil a man who born as a prince, trained by best paladin named Uther for virtue and light art and one of the greatest combatant dwarf Muradin for his martial art and valor. Yet he fall like that. Meanwhile Bolvar donned helm of dominion and contained it's power and will and pissed of Jailer in progress.

Yea, you can be wing lady.

really as though bastion is the most beautiful zone in the entire shadowlands, i NEVER played kyrian... i hate them. they're supposed to symbolize angels but that "Path", even if changed in the flow of the story disgusted me so much, that i won't ever play them. even if I'll miss the mogg sets, mounts and achievements.. nope. i wont ever

Arthas didn't do anything wrong. The purge of stratholme was the right thing to do but just harsh, he saved more lives. He lost his soul once he claimed frostmourne and then his body was a taken when he put on the helm of domination/ lich king helm.

Arthas did nothing wrong... still stand by that!

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yo Galaxy is hot af

Literally the most emotionless reaction ive seen in my whole life. Why is she making wow videos, she doesnt know anything?

you talk too much during the video and you miss the dialogues, maybe it would be easier for you to understand if you made your comments at the end ...