This was a huge moment in WoW's history. Varok Saurfang was a literal icon from the very beginning of WoW's history. He was always on the front lines of the big events there, the elder General who was directing the assaults. He was one of the few remaining first generation that came through the Dark Portal in the original orc invasion of Azeroth. We got to see him lead heroic charges, took orders from him. We got to experience the loss of his son to the Lich King, and then take down his son's reanimated body. We all grieved with him. He sought an honorable death, and he found one here. He gave his life in Mak'gora (honorable 1v1 duel for leadership) to show the loyalists of Sylvanas that she doesn't care about them. He exposed her and reclaimed not only his own honor, but the honor of the entire Horde. This cinematic marked the end of an era for more than half of the entire player base. Since the very beginning the Horde has had a warchief. With Saurfang's death, it changed to a council system with representatives from each race of the Horde. Saurfang's death brought a sort of republic to the Horde, rather than a dictatorship.

@matthewlorimer7234

3 жыл бұрын

probably in my eyes one of the saddest things to happen in WOW tbh.

@mooboy2000

3 жыл бұрын

Why this doesn't have more likes I don't know. I think this comment should be pinned at the top honestly. My time with the Warcraft franchise goes all the way back to the very first warcraft game. When 3 came out a novel also came out about Thrall's beginnings and I had mad respect for what he tried to make of the Horde. I was not a fan of any of the other leaders after Thrall left too much, but Varok redeemed a lot of that when going through this storyline. He is only the second to gain as much respect for me as Thrall, through his pain he had much honor.

@thesheerwoodcrow5465

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll admit I’m new to wow I didn’t spend as much time with this charaters as others spent more time on the lore forms books and such if were being honest. But this just...hit so hard. I kept desperately hoping he’d win somehow despite knowing what he did. This wasn’t about winning it was about him getting his warriors death and in a way saving the family he’d found for himself in the horde.

@aennaenn7468

3 жыл бұрын

And to have it end that way, wielding Ellemayne and Shalla'tor... Those swords defended Azeroth in the War of the Ancients, and helped stop the Burning Legion for the first time, 10,000 years ago, and down the line of users in critical moments against Onyxia, the legion again, and now were used to defend it against the Maw.

@EpicKillstreak

2 жыл бұрын

Just a perfect comment. Thank you for this.

The nice stuff is that the sword what anduin borrowed him, that only person with pure hearth can cut it in two like Saurfang did

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

Anduin's dad's sword.

@Lyko5

3 жыл бұрын

next time, he sould use the [Thunderfury Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]

@Warbringer190

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lyko5 Did somebody say [Thunderfury Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

@Lyko5

3 жыл бұрын

@@Warbringer190 yes, I did say [Thunderfury, Blassed Blade of the Windseeker}

@bruhmomentum0734

2 жыл бұрын

nah he just changed spec to fury

Sylvanas "The Horde is NOTHING" Soldier "Really??? In front of my banner?????"

I cried like a baby when he died, I invested the last 16 years in this game, and Saurfang was one of my favourite people. I also cried in the past for a dragon, a bear, King Varian, (ugly bawlin!) and several others. and I never cry! Blizzard are dang good at storymaking :) Loving your reactions!

@JekyViews

3 жыл бұрын

I cried for all of those as well. But I’m super emotional, so I cry quite a lot...

@NonsensicalSpudz

3 жыл бұрын

shame the gameplay last its touch

@Sonnabend00

3 жыл бұрын

Blizzard are dang good at storymaking :) - you said that with a straight face?

@dafire9634

3 жыл бұрын

@@NonsensicalSpudz nah,i wouldn't say so,classes being balanced damage wise or not,has no bearing on the gameplay being fun or not,and though it is largely a matter of opinion,like "i only liked MoP Xclass and nothing else"

@-Miasimon

3 жыл бұрын

Why'd you have to bring up "a dragon"? Legion *really* loved to tear at my heartstrings. Still holding out hope that Runas can be saved.

Saurfang, the only man that ever won by losing.

@TheAodhfin

3 жыл бұрын

Technically he won, as magic is forbidden in Mak'gora. She lost the moment she blasted him.

@ShaneshaS

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAodhfin No it isn't, read the books, it has to be agreed on before the battle begins, otherwise the only ground rule is that it is a 1v1.

@maggimaster

3 жыл бұрын

Saurfang=Crowley from supernatural Even when I lose I win

@moxy666

3 жыл бұрын

Trump? ok, he thinks he won by losing big difference I guess

@NefruSimons

3 жыл бұрын

@@moxy666 yeap 😄

3:19 the moment he gave his sword to saurfang. this was a subtle but BIG moment.

@mc9723

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a Horde player forever, but I fucking love Anduin. Loved Varian as well.

@stumpy1146

3 жыл бұрын

Between that and Saurfang saying, "Walk with me, the rest of the way." That whole scene was huge.

@bigmike2464

3 жыл бұрын

@@mc9723 How could you not love Varian? Like how do you not like Thrall and Vol'jin? Rexxar has always been one of my fav.. Legit badasses who had respect from both sides... Like Broxigar the Red... his whole damn family is awesome if you think about it lol

Mak'gora means "Duel of Honor", it's an Orcish custom where someone challenges another to 1v1 combat, the ritualistic duel is used to obtain a position of leadership, like a fight for group leader, clan chieftain or Warchief of the Horde! The Lore of Warcraft has been my alt time favorite stories since the Reign of Chaos RTS game! #StayAwesome

@andrewreid3960

3 жыл бұрын

And they almost never fight fair..

@drAq44

3 жыл бұрын

They almost always do fight fair, but for some reason people think it's forbidden to use magic during Mak'gora (it's not, unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties).

@skotbean5690

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewreid3960 yep, there hasn't been an unfair one yet, even the Garrosh and Thrall one, as it was only agreed that Thrall wouldn't use the elements as Garrosh had no magic, but during the fight Thrall realised he was handicapping himself for stupid prideful reasons

@Shiftry87

3 жыл бұрын

@@skotbean5690 Where was that agreement made??? Even if that was true it would have been the most stupid thing Thrall ever did as there was no chans in hell he could defeat Garrosh in 1v1 combat without hes elemental powers.

@skotbean5690

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shiftry87 it's never outright confirmed, just heavily implied

Randomly had you appear in my recommendations and I am glad I watched, loved this reaction video! Looking forward to seeing more c:

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@Luffjorn

3 жыл бұрын

Same 😄

@vexdali388

3 жыл бұрын

Simp

@caynidar6295

3 жыл бұрын

Same and I am very glad I did!

@orangelocked

3 жыл бұрын

Shit dude, I've watched so many people reacting to these cinematics, I just like watching people enjoy the same stuff I do because its almost like getting to watch for the first time again

"Poor orc man with no eyebrows and tiny eyes." I want to argue but everything you said was true

"i normally skip cut scenes" YOU MONSTER!

Mak'gora, meaning "duel of honor", is an orcish custom whereby someone may challenge another person to individual combat. The ritualistic duel has been often used to obtain a position of leadership, such as a fight for the position of group leader, clan chieftain, or Warchief of the Horde.

@PandaOfRegret

3 жыл бұрын

Also the bad guy always cheats(no magic allowed in makgora)in these “duels of honor” see guldan

@zachgraman5000

3 жыл бұрын

@@PandaOfRegret Garrosh would like to have words.

@derrickhuff3779

3 жыл бұрын

Has there ever been a mak’gora that didn’t end up with one of them cheating

@r4ge529

3 жыл бұрын

@@derrickhuff3779 lothar vs blackhand probably

@dawoodoo8913

3 жыл бұрын

@@PandaOfRegret using magic isnt cheating in a makgora. The rules need to be defined beforehand. Neither Thrall and Garrosh nor Saurfang and Sylvanas did define any rules. Which makes the usage of magic during a makgora not dishonorable. Even wearing bodyarmor isnt allowed normally. But since nobody defined the rules beforehand Sylvanas was allowed to wear her armor. The rules of a Mak'gora are always different since they are chosen and set by the participants themselves. Also magic has NEVER been stated to be forbidden. Except in the Warcraft movie which is not canon.

Even as a non WoW Player, it caught you, imagen how we have felt after 15 years with Varok on our side

@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg

2 жыл бұрын

A death in FF14 caught me way harder even though the character wasn't even with me in the story for that long (trying to be as vague as possible lol). I can't think of any moment in WoW that actually affected me that much. I vaguely recall one moment in WoW making me cry but it was so long ago that I genuinely don't remember it. I'm surprised it affected her considering the quality of the material she's used to.

Oh man i cried when he died...Was one of the oldest characters still left in the game,20 + years in Warcraft franchise he was even present in games before WoW was made,it was soo sad..but he earned his warriors death and exposed her!! BTW he challenged her to Mak'Gora basically a duel of honor to obtain a position that someone is holding for themselves,and its usually a duel to the death

he stands there for 15 years, allies have to walk around him, and now he's gone, imagining the feeling...

I am throughly enjoying watching you grow as a Warcraft fan. I find myself talking to the screen trying to will you the answers to your questions, lol.

I just love Thrall's patient look after the duel as he is waiting for the Undead chick to give the command to open the gates of the Horde capital city, fought for, founded and named by Thrall himself 😂

Not much gets me more than Saurfang's "Let it be finished" Almost brings me to tears every time

@tarmok3756

3 жыл бұрын

Not the first to say it and go into death

@ericvinogradov2048

3 жыл бұрын

Even more meaningful if you played in Wrath of the Lich King and know that those were the exact words his son said before his death at the Wrathgate.

@antoinebrg6299

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericvinogradov2048 Oh shit is that right ? Don't fool with me dude, I CAN'T STAND TO CRY AGAIN

Definitly one of the best cinematics Blizzard has ever done. The thing was Saurfang was branded a traitor by Silvanas. And while many didnt agree with her they still followed her. The beginning shot is basically Saurfang stating the sad state that they basically attack they're own capital. But instead of an full assault where many people died and in the worst case strenghening silvanas grasp on the Horde. Saurfang wanted to show the people that to Silvanas they mean nothing and are just pawns in her (well not really as we learn in shadowlands) game. If you remember the "Old Soldier" Cinematic Saurfang wanted to have an Honorable death. Which he feared he wouldnt get because of what happened at Teldrasil. So the HUGE redemption for him was that, in the end, he was given his honorable Death by "freeing" the Horde of Silvanas. That is underlined by the last shot where they knock their banners on the Ground as an Salute of a fallen Hero. Great video btw hope u continue to enjoy your Journey and so long :)

@dwarfminerwillie

3 жыл бұрын

In many ways this reminds me of Grom's death, he commited far too many atrocities for his death in combat to be honorable by itself and he had to die fighting for the freedom of all his people. Saurfang did the exact same thing here, not with his axe and strength but with his wisdom and courage and to me that is just as if not greater of an achievement.

what i love the most about your reaction, is that you show more emotion for what's happening than most of the people that know the lore/play wow, and it gives a cozy feeling seeing someone that feels the same way you did and shows it while watching. Im excited for more reactions from you!

Keep in mind Sylvanas' words during the next cinematic, they are far deeper than many of us expected.

"Mak'gora" meaning "duel of honor" is essentially a challenge to combat (sometimes to the death) to obtain something (meaning if Varok won for example there would be no war and they will win the city back) and generally using anything other than your weapons (magic, poison etc) is considered cheating.

@dwarfminerwillie

3 жыл бұрын

Actually the last part isn't quite true, Mak'gora's are actually quite varied depending on who organizes it. There have been multiple matches where magic was used and no fuss was raised about it so essentially if the one being challenged doesn't want magic to be used he has to stipulate that as a rule in the match, you can even decide weather or not your allowed to wear armor or not.

@zZSleepytimeZz

3 жыл бұрын

General mak'gora rules would say 3 weapons are allowed (using magic/poison would be counted as a weapon, sometimes even diffrent schools of magic can be counted as multiple weapons). Mak'gora is a fight to the death, you can choose to spare your enemy, but most of the time that does not happen (why would you spare someone you challenge to a literal deathmatch?).

@vector5298

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwarfminerwillie when Mak'gora u cannot use magic or poison. Remember Garrosh when he fought against Cairne Bloodhoof and after on Dreanor against Thrall. And when Thrall used magic in Mak'gora elementals turned from Thrall.

@heiko3169

3 жыл бұрын

@@vector5298 But that doesn't make it cheating in general. The rules of the Mak'gora are to be agreed on within the 2 contenders. If they don't "ban" magic, it can be considered to be allowed to use.

@juggnuttz

3 жыл бұрын

@@vector5298 no it was because Magatha Grimtotem interfered and put poison on Garaosh's axe without his knowledge. it wasnt the poison itself, but the manner in that it was from a 3rd party. and the elements didnt abandon Thrall for using magic, remember that they had a Mak'gora in the Orgrimmar Arena back in Wrath where Thrall used magic alot, and nothing was said about that. He lost faith in himself as he just had to kill the son of someone he revered and he had put into power. once he lost his inner strength, the elements didnt heed his call anymore.

So glad that I came across your reaction videos! Definitely looking forward to more.

There are other personalities reacting to WoW cinematics laced with old references and rich lore without the familiarity for it to land as hard as it would otherwise. The BfA Warbringers series and the BfA war campaign cinematics and cut scenes are amongst the most well composed, executed, and powerful in gaming history, they're strong in the world of fiction in general. There is so much going on in these that it's unfair to expect anyone who wasn't into the world to be pounded with the feels-hammer as hard as the rest of us. You're doing a wonderful job of picking up on the gravity of these in your first exposure. That isn't just good story telling... it's also good interpretation. You're making first-pass connections that other aren't and you're reading the room well.

The music is always that intense. It's the zone music for Durotar. It's the "orcy" score.

Mak'gora is a duel until death sometimes used to challenge the leader of a tribe, or in this case the entire Horde.

I cry everytime I see this or any of the Lord Saurfang cinematic. He truly was one of the most honorable Warriors who ever lived.

One character I ever shed a tear for when he died, ever since they introduced him into the world he has been one of the few characters that you could respect. Loved his character most since WOTLK trying to shape and then hold back Saurfang. The pang of sorrow as well from when his son was killed a the Wrathgate and then his resurrection in Icecrown citadel only to be made a pawn of the Litchking as a boss.

It's been two years and damn, this still gives me chills what a cinematic.. Also what a throwback, your hair is on point! 🙌

As a long time Horde player, seeing Saurfang fall definitely makes me a little teary-eyed.

1:52 For context: Mak'gora is an orcish duel for supremacy. The rules are; 1: no armour, only clothing or nothing 2: any weapon or unarmed is allowed except for ranged, poisons, and especially not magic 3: there is no surrender, the duel ends only in death 4: no one is allowed to help you or step in mid-duel

"Bitch, you dusty." has been one of the best reactions I have heard to this cinematic...

Love your reactions, you are learning quick about the Warcraft universe! I love that you call Anduin "Damn-duin" haha, those of us who have been playing the game since the beginning knew him when he was a small little kid and we watched him grow up. I remember in the last couple expansions when he became really grown everyone called him "Man-duin" lmao. Also what was cool in the game while all this was going on if you were a Horde player, you choose who you want to be loyal to, Sylvanas or Saurfang, each with their own quest/story line. Anyways, looking forward to more!

The *tink tink* that goes crescendo to the sound of drums always gives me chills while my eyes tear up

The ding ding at the end always gets me for some reason.

I sobbed when we lost Saurfang. 🥺😭 But at last, he gets to rest.

"The Horde is NOTHING!" Forsaken : "Bxtch, say sic right now."

way she knew him as Zappyboi

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Haha only from all the comments on the Old Soldier reaction vid! He seems like a lovely character

@Gray-soul_81

3 жыл бұрын

@@GalaxyAUS A newer character for this xpac. He was so popular that they put him in a large role for the pro log book for the next xpac.

@jlysh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gray-soul_81 Yeah, probably cuz Voljin is dead 😢 Man wow keeps killing all of my favorite characters that I grew up with 😞

Your reactions are adorable! I think I like watching you watching these more than I liked watching them months ago on my own.

Curious fact, Varok Saurfang had a brother called Broxigar who also had survivors complex and also looked for an honorable death and he died after slaying hundreds of demons and being the only mortal able to leave a scratch on the Fallen Titan Sargeras, Lord of the Burning Legion (the Demons in Warcraft's Universe). Of course he died after that while helping prevent a full scale demon invasion on the planet... but survivors complex it seems to be a theme with the family. His story os told on the novels.

I just love how they change Anduins face on this cinematic. Now he is less DiCaprio and much more Varian. Nice one Blizz, nice one

"I'm notorious for skipping cutscenes in games," wow, that's probably the most anti-FFXIV sentiment there is haha!

@tylerstewart3181

3 жыл бұрын

Ff14 cinematic are like that red headed cousin who always comes around but you can't STAND him.

@eviljesus84

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly because skipping cutscenes in any Final Fantasy game, means skipping half the goddamn game =)

Mak'gora is a challenge to duel. Usually used to take the throne, in other words Varok Saurfang challenged Sylvanas to take her Warchief's throne and stop the war so nobody will be hurt anymore. It's also noted that in Mak'gora magic is forbidden or any type of enchants, it's usually just close combat with normal weapons, no super powers added or anything, in which case Sylvanas broke the Mak'gora using death magic.

Blizzard created a musical score for each of the main characters in World of Warcraft. When Saurfang dies and Zappyboi is kneeling over him, his theme plays - but much more slowly than usual. I play Alliance for the most part; but when I heard that play the first time I saw that cimematic, I ugly cried.

So a little history on Varok Saurfang he is a verteran of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd wars of Azeroth and is probably one of the finest lineages of orcs the Horde has ever produced. His brother Broxigar is enshrined within the horde and nightelven societies as one of the greatest heroes of Azeroth for what he did in the War of the Ancients. He slayed countless demons in this war and even sacrificed himself in the war to give his allies more time to close the portal that the demons were using to come through. Varok's son is a casualty of the war against the Lich King from which he was risen as a Death Knight by the Lich King himself to protect Icecrown Citadel( the lich king's seat of power). Varok buried his son after the heroes of azeroth defeated him and let Varok collect him. Varok was also the High Overlord of the entire Horde( basically the highest military rank someone can hold). His mastery in combat was awesome as well as his honor in combat. He was the true heart of the Horde

It was really sad for me cause I've know Varok Saurfang for years and years. The High Overlord will be missed. For the Horde!!!

The intense music is actually from the ingame music for Orgrimmar (at least BEFORE the revamp of the capital. Not sure if the ambiance music changed after).

There has been a few Mak’Goras in the history of the game and even movie. Ones I can think of are Thrall (black hair orc) vs Garrosh (A young orc that was full of himself before the Lich King invades), Garrosh vs Cairne Bloodhoof (the leader of the Tauren, who was killed by poison on Garrosh’s axe that Garrosh did not know of), Thrall vs Garrosh v2 (at this time Garrosh had gone mad with power, and this is debatably when Thrall lost his Shaman powers by killing his former student), and a few others from prior times. There is no higher dishonor to an Orc than to cheat in a Mak’Gora, and depending on the situation certain magics can be seen as a cheating device, usually fel or in Sylvanas’s case, dark/death magic.

@gonzalonavarro9584

3 жыл бұрын

That's not true. There's no rules in Mak'gora unless the participants set the rules before the fight. Thrall used his elemental powers against Garrosh and is not considered cheating, because that's how shamans fight. Imagine beeing a Warchief mage fighting against a warrior orc who has trained all his life to fight in close combat with weapons. If you pay attention, Sylvanas is using dark magic in her daggers and nobody said a word.. because everyone knows she uses that kind of magic. The missunderstanding of the Mak'gora happens because people takes the Warcraft Movie as refference, but the movie isn't 100% canon, even the wow developers said it. The Garrosh vs Cairne mak'gora was considered cheating because warriors don't use poison in their weapons (is not their way, they like to fight clean and fair) and the poison used belong to a 3rd person (Magatha)

@Zidzyz

3 жыл бұрын

@@gonzalonavarro9584 Read my comment again? I didn’t say all magic is not allowed, only specific types, possibly because the way it is obtained. Shaman magic is obtained through asking the aid of the elements, while dark Magic’s is usually taken by force or by giving something in return to the powers source (usually harming others). For example Sylvanas’s magic and Fel magic come from other sources and not from themselves, just like how the poison came from someone else in Garrosh’s case. Sylvanas from the Jailor and Fel Magic from demons. Why do you think warlocks are constantly looked down in in every part of lore by orcs? It’s considered dishonorable. If you think that tribal society based completely on Honor allows the most dishonorable magic in one of their most important rituals you’re dead wrong. And even Cairne in the books states that Mak’Gora has rules and Garrosh didn’t understand them. You had to state what weapons and armor are allowed, and other things of the sort. Seeing as how Sylvanas and Saurfang both had 2 weapons and full armor that would have been considered a fair Mak’Gora, but then Sylvanas introduced another weapon (and possibly armor? Idk if the Jailers powers can provide any type of magical defense). The rules and traditions are all stated by Cairne in The Shattering

@juggnuttz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zidzyz you are still wrong. there is no rule against magic at all, its only what the 2 agree on beforehand. remember, head canon is not canon.... wow.gamepedia.com/Mak%27gora

@gonzalonavarro9584

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zidzyz "...only specific tipes..." come on man that sounds very convenient for some. Why do u think that no one in the cinematic called Sylvanas cheater? Even in game, everybody talks about her dark powers but no one really said she cheated. The rules that you are talking about where specific for that fight (Cairne vs Garrosh), as you can see here between Saurfang and Sylvanas no weapon was blessed by a Shaman, etc.

@Zidzyz

3 жыл бұрын

@@juggnuttz and the thing you linked only speaks of shamanistic powers specifically of Thrall and other shamans that lead the horde. Shaman magic comes from their relationship with the elements, Fel magic (and I’d argue the Jailers magic) are completely different. There’s a reason Warlocks never really rank high in the Horde. It’s a power that is known to not be of this world so it’s rejected historically by the Orcs based on their history and now view that it lacks honor. Now tell me they would let you use that in the Mak’Gora which literally translates to Duel of Honor. The evidence shows they are ok with Nature Magic’s and other ‘honorable’ ones (which probably includes mages, druids, shamans, priests, and paladins)

I have always played Alliance and I was saddened by his death and pissed by her deceit...unhonorable and now....she must die

I played through as a Sylvanas loyalist (you had the choice to stay loyal to Sylvanas or join Saurfang's rebellion) because my Warchief is my Warchief, and hearing Sylvanas say "the Horde is nothing" absolutely wrecked me. I understood that Saurfang's rebels were likely to win in the story and signed up to see the other side of the Horde story (and I main a Blood Elf so I was standing with the Ranger General), but I wasn't prepared for how far afield she had gone.

The bit that the end is the Horde that sided with Sylvanas, showing respect and honour for one of the founding members of Orgrimmar, it's a extremely significant scene, I think it's the first time a king of the alliance has been allowed in Orgrimmar, as well as Varok and Thralls homecoming, as Varok said "People like us, we don't get to hide" I think this is going to end with Thrall being Warchief again

To Finish The Entire Line and undestand a part of why Sylvanas (eyebrows) did that i recommend "World of Warcraft: Shadowlands Cinematic Trailer"

I could watch this cinematic a million times and I still get emotional af during it

Love your reaction videos Galaxy! ☺️

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Varok Saurafang got his warriors death and achieved martyr status.

That was indeed Orgrimmar. I cry every time I watch Reckoning and the cinematic to the start of Mists of Pandaria. New sub from UK. Take care and stay safe 🙂👍

You randomly popped up in my recommendations, and just checked all your reactions. Pretty sweet (and really relaxing background music). When Anduin gave him his sword, it was a truly epic moment, as from the start of WoW, and even before in Warcraft, the sword and shield represents the Alliance (especially that sword) and the axe the Horde. And there was Saurfang, wielding both As far as some recommendations I could give you: -In game, as Alliance, go into ICC and you'll fight and kill Saurfang's son. There's a nice little interaction if you play as Alliance when he comes to collect his son's body - Check out the Shadowlands cinematic trailer, though my guess is you've seen it. - Check out the Afterlives series (4 so far). They're videos introducing some of the story of Shadowlands, in the same style as Warbringers. -Enjoy the game

@kodiakbear30

3 жыл бұрын

That sword was his Father Varian's weapons when he was split into two from Onixya. It backfired on her in the long run.

@adamwilliams3336

3 жыл бұрын

@@kodiakbear30 yup, just didn't want to add all that info into the post.

Saurfang will live in our hearts

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Best thing about this cinematic is that it showed something Blizzard spent a long time telling us: Saurfang was the Horde's go-to military commander for a reason. He's smart. He'd been around Sylvanas enough to know exactly what buttons to push to set her off, he just needed the opportunity to get a little face time. He knew that when she gets angry, she gets sloppy, and petty, and vengeful. Prone to outbursts. When she's mad, Sylvanas has to work twice as hard fixing her fuckups in addition to the initial problem. So he gets her in the mak'gora, playing on her sadism to get her to agree in the first place. When she ends up much stronger physically than she SHOULD be, he begins hitting her buttons, intentionally playing on her two major ones (hope and her failures) to piss her off. And finally, as she hits the boiling point, her cocky smirk replaced with frustrated rage, he lands a blow and she furiously outs herself. At that point, who won the fight was immaterial; Saurfang won the war. There's no coming back from screaming that the Horde means nothing to you, in front of the entire Horde both loyalist and rebel. And she KNOWS he played her at the end there; she weighed her options and decided to double down before making her exit. Hopefully we get to actually drop Sylvanas instead of it being done by someone else in a cutscene.

The sword is Shalamayne, the sword of his father, Varian Wrynn. It's total fan service to hand it to Saurfang.

1:51 - Mak'gora - ''Duel of Honor''. Basically a challenge for leadership.

hearing the orgrimmar music and seeing the gates of orgrimmar is always so nostalgic. honestly my favourite part of this cinematic. "big scary orc gate.." :p

I cried like a baby too i love saurfang so much he's my fav character in all games he was my first and currently only tattoo i love the dude. You listen his resume when they send him off and it's like how badass is that. I hope to good we get to see him in shadowlands i need to see my boy

Mak'gora is single combat to the death. some are going to say magic is not allowed, but thats just wrong. the only rules are 1 on 1, and whatever rules are decided by the 2 participants beforehand. if they dont set any rules, then anything goes between those 2 people. but yes thats what Saurfang wanted, to frustrate her into making a mistake, even if he died doing it. and he did.

@marsterchiff117

3 жыл бұрын

That not true than in warcraft the book you can read that that the 1 vs 1 is a orcish duel on life and death without magic and healthdrinks or other help just 1 vs 1. Normaly the one the fight fighting with the same weapons. This book is really old and on german and dont exist in english. You can Google it if you are not know that I think it called : tralls Journal or something like that.

@juggnuttz

3 жыл бұрын

@@marsterchiff117 wow.gamepedia.com/Mak%27gora also if its not in english, then it wasnt written by Blizzard. people need to stop spreading the bullshit that magic is not allowed.

I really like that you were sad because of Saufangs death, that really shows what these cinematics from Blizzard can do. Even to people who aren't familiar with WoW. If you want to dive deeper in WoW Lore, you need to watch the ingame cutscenes, but sadly they are in ingame graphic 😅 I wish WoW would look like these cinematics ingame. Sylvanas strength is not even her own strength... she never could've won so easily only with her own power (I will not spoiler whose power it is, of course). Sure Saurfang is old but still a good fighter with a lot of experience. I really hope Sylvanas dies in Shadowlands... (for good this time). When I started to play WoW in 2005, I liked Sylvanas because of her story but I don't get why she didn't just lived her life after she was free from the Lich KIng.

@aennaenn7468

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get it either, why she'd go through all that to be free from one tyrannical master just to go bow to another one willingly? Even if she may have plans to usurp or betray him later, it's a huge risk, and makes no sense from the perspective of leading the forsaken for so long, and doing the things she did.

Love your reaction videos. This one was excellent because your obviously heartfelt emotions. I look forward to your future reactions. I'm hoping you follow this with the Shadowlands trailer and the Afterlife series of 4 videos.

The next one is Shadowlands Cinematic and I can't wait to see you react to it!

Thrall, former warchief, gives his ax to Saurfang. Anduin Wrynn gives his father's sword(s) to Saurfang. Thus the hope of both the Horde and Alliance are in Saurfang's hands. And what happens next is monumental. But watching Zekhan (Zappy Boi), knowing his father figure is about to die... And his line, 'Let it be finished.' That was the last words of his son when Dranosh was cut down by the Lich King.

He challenged "Mak'gora". It's a sacred tradition for Orcs, basically a ritual combat, meant to settle disputes and often used to challenge someone for the right of leadership. Traditionally, those battles are restricted to melee combat, usually with little to no armor. The use of any kind of magic is usually forbidden and leads to disqualification.

It was sad to see Varok Saurfang die but sadder still getting to know his pain the last few videos. For the first bit of the game he was just a meme really as he was a main guard on the way to kill Thrall if you were Alliance (back then raiding cities to take out the racial leaders was a popular thing, particularly on PVP servers). The comment the troll kid makes in old soldier about his father telling tales of Saurfang killing 10 men in a single cleave are...true. His warrior 'cleave' ability was instant death to a lot of people on those raids. In the first WOW expac, The Burning Legion, we discovered he had a son left on Outland (broken Draenor, where Saurfang finds Thrall in the last video) and in Wrath of the Lich King, said son is killed by the Lich King (and becomes one of the bosses you have to fight as an undead orc in the final raid of that expac). He'd been kind of in the background after then until more recently with the conclusion to his story.

End of BfA 'War Campaign' , for sure.. though there's still the 8.3 storyline to go over. Many would say this /should/ have been the absolute final cinematic of the expansion though, since it does lead almost directly to Shadowlands (and arguably is far better than what remains of BfA .. )

@sirkalilak6841

3 жыл бұрын

They kind of tried to tell two different stories and I really didn't like it. I felt disconnected from the entire 8.3 N'Zoth threat story, considering the status Old Gods had I expected so much more from an actual unleashed Old God (or even an entire Old God expansion) - considering what they are planning right now it would seem they would skip the Old Gods entirely and jump to the Void Lords next. This cinematic should have been the transition to Shadowlands Imo.

@Trygvar13

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirkalilak6841 I still don't believe N'zoth was defeated. Much of the prophecy has still not happened although the reveal that the Nathrezim have infiltrated all of the cosmic forces seems to indicate we might get a surprise in Shadowlands.

@sirkalilak6841

3 жыл бұрын

@@Trygvar13 Aye I really hope for such revelation - I wonder how they could have infiltrated the Void. Also curious about their natural "Death" form, since we only know their demonic Fel form. Then there is Lothraxion, which somehow kept his demonic features and became lightforged. Begs the question how many times this race can be twisted, it's almost like the primordial forces are playing ping pong haha

@Trygvar13

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirkalilak6841 I believe the Void Lords realized they were infiltrated. The book clearly states that the Void Lords can see all the possible futures and that they might figure out what they were trying to do. Which is why they were shown as the ultimate villains to all of the other cosmic forces. Ever since N'zoth said that all eyes shall be opened I've had the feeling that the Void might not be what we think. Especially since we know that the Light struck a bargain with Death.

Nice back to back cinematic reactions. Would be nice to see the previous expansions. People added them as a "movie" for the previous expansions on youtube.

You know the story writers do good work when someone who's not overly familiar with the games comes to tears over the death of a character they've only seen in about 15 minutes of video. Great Reaction, one of my favs and I've seen a lot :P

As a player that largely noped out of this expansion, this was a powerful moment, even for me. I'm not a horde player in the first place, but even watching from the sideline, to see the ways in which the horde was being corrupted this entire bloody time has been painful. The horde were not supposed to just be the bad guys, the alliance the good guys. I definitely _favored_ the alliance, but not out of any moral distaste for the horde. In BFA, the horde were unambiguously led by a villain. Not the one who wound up being the BBEG of this expansion, but she was evil... and actively going against what the horde stood for. This was the moment of the horde reclaiming its soul.

Mok'gara, its an honor duel to the death for leadership of the Horde

The term for what Thrall(aka Go'el) and Saurfang are is "blood brothers" they're not blood related, but are as close as siblings.

You need to watch the in game cinematic "Wrathgate" Bc the "Let it be finished" line is a throw back from his son which u see in the "Old Soldier" cinematic. Also if you really want to get into the lore I strongly recommend Nobble87 lore vids

He gave his life to expose slyvanas and avoid further bloodshed. He died a hero.

the "big gate" was entrance to horde capital city : Orgrimmar

SF: "For Azer.." Sylv: "KAMEHAMEHA!"

Im sure it was obvious what a mak'gora was, but just a little lore session as its a little bit more than just a 1v1. Long story short a mak'gora is an ancient orcish ritual duel, traditionally only using a weapon (which can also be blessed by a shaman). There are quite a few notable mak'gora's in the lore which i do suggest you look into as they are just interesting in general, plus with one being made into a cinematic with thrall versing garrosh, which in my opinion is one of the most badass in game cinematics they ever made.

Anduin handing his sword to Varok is high tribute because of that weapon's history. Famous weapons have a name and that one is named Shalamayne. It originated as two separate elven blades. The elf blades are introduced into the story at a turning point in the life of Anduin's father, King Varian Wyrnn. In a political coup, Varian was physically split into two separate men via magic and deceit. After many travails, the two men join forces to rescue a very young Anduin from certain death. Each of them bears one of the elven blades. The weaker half of Varian perishes in the fight but the outcome is a victory. Anduin is rescued. Varian is made whole again. The two blades are joined into one sword. Ever afterwards, Varian is able to separate Shalamayne whenever he chooses to dual weild. In later years, Varian is destroyed by Guldan's magic. Shalamayne is all that remains to Anduin of the father he still mourns. Anduin could not have given Varok anything more precious or more significant of his faith and trust in the orc general. Varok and Varian both die as they would most wish, as warriors in honorable combat and defense of their people. Varok's death is a victory for it forced the end of Sylvanas' reign as warchief of the Horde. Side note, both men die to a bolt of magic in the chest. For Varian, the cause of death is green fel magic and for Varok, purple shadow magic.

Thrall and Saurfang might as well have been brothers. Saurfang was Thrall's General for so long and it brought him and his son(before he became a Death Knight) much honor. He continued to serve as Garrosh's -> Vol'jin's -> Sylvanas's General.

Yeah, as you said he was intentionally trying to bait her into revealing her true motives or feelings towards the Horde through his defeat/death. Which is why he says before the fight that there only needs to be one death for this to be over, but he meant his own. After you hit up the Shadowlands trailer I highly recommend checking out some of the in-game cutscenes that fill in blanks between all of these high quality, fancy cutscenes. In particular there's one immediately before this cutscene. Then if you wanna see older stuff, probably start with Wrathgate. That cutscene blew all of us away way back in WotLK. Also the Fall of the Lich King trailer is very relevant to Shadowlands and I HIGHLY recommend watching that before starting on Afterlives: Bastion and actually probably need to watch that before the Shadowlands trailer too just for the sake of some context.

Saurfang knew that Sylvanas would cheat, and in turn show the Horde her treachery, while finally receiving his Warrior's Death as he wished, and with honor. Great video btw!

I love that you are new but your interpretation of events was really spot on.

@GalaxyAUS

3 жыл бұрын

That's due to the brilliant story telling! There's lots that can be said by facial expressions :D

Awesome!! Love your reaction when Saurfang died. I felt it tooo T_T And you're so gorgeous!! Keep your vids coming ❤️

Saurfang challenged Sylvanas to Mak'Gora, its a duel of honor. Before Thrall; Mak'gora would be a fight to the death and showing mercy would basically mean great insult. Mak'gora is also very much alike the Norse "Holmgang", basically to settle disputes. Orcs and ogres had Mak'gora part of their cultures.

Great video!! Ffound you by accident when i let the algorithm chose the next video and i loved it!! Now, a quick recomendation. Dont need to react to it of you dont want to but its a lot of fun to see, lol. Hidden Azeroth made a video called "The entire history of WoW in 22 minutes". Its the best summary out there. I hope you watch it! It will teach you on the background of everyone you saw on these cinematics. And its really accurate.

Hope you get to watch the new expansion cinematic!! :3

I really like your reactions because you actually care to understand the lore.

he won on both ends he got his horde back and his honorable death

after all the shit the forsaken had to go through to get IN the horde, it's no surprise even they turned on their leader. Even when you did the opening quests in Silverpine, I always felt like Sylvanas was self fulfilling and saw herself as above everyone else. idk, it's just the vibe I got whenever i had to talk to her.

I was so speechless when Varok fell and carried through the gates of Orgrimmar

Also one last cinematic, the shadow lands announcement one

I love yo reactions, you can tell you actually give a damn about the lore and not just watching it for views like others! Keep up the good work, m'lady! Also you should watch the overwatch cinematics too, even tho you don't play it. The lore is pretty awesome and the cinematics are amazing!

Its cute that shes sad about the High Overlord dying, imagine how some of us felt that have known him and everything hes done since 2004 R.I.P Supreme Commander of the Might of Kalimdor

''Challenge what?'' Mak'gora: the orc fighting duel, there are specific rules about the usage of any sort of magic or enchantment: one is supposed to fight with bare fists or weapon of choice, a shaman might enhance the weapon of the warrior if the adversary accepts it and a judge approves, anything else is forbidden. One dueler comes out with victory if the adversary either forfeits or dies. If the adversary forfeits, he will remain in shame for the rest of its life and might be expeled from the community/clan, if they die, its an honorable death. if spells or anything else unaccounted is used, there will be no victory: the adversary will be dead but keep its honor and the killer will be shamed. To not accept the chalange is an option but frowned upon, among orcs the act of refusing can be seen as cowardice and a weakness and even if there is no loss, naturally, the rest will see the individual as a dishonorable one and start to question its character, so, its easier to just accept and do the best to win. PS: I said that there can be forfeit but only in recent years dictated by Green Jesus Thrall as he didnt want unacessary deaths, otherwise, in the past, the orcs would only accept a winner if the adversary was killed in the end, even if the adversary was unable to fight or unconscious

Mak'gora is an honorary duel to the death. Traditionally without using magic. Although it's accepted to have your weapons blessed by a sage ahead of it. Thrall, the younger orc that looks up to Saurfang like a father almost, broke Mak'gora by using magic and lost his shamanistic abilities.

@FreeThePenguins

3 жыл бұрын

Which is why he was hiding on the broken world of Draenor(also called Outlands). He was ashamed.

Sylvannas is just a badass.