Fermi Paradox: The Time Problem

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An exploration of time scales and time passage and its relation to the Fermi Paradox as a straightforwards solution.
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Papers:
"The Fermi Paradox revisited: Technosignatures and the Contact Era", Wandel, 2022
arxiv.org/abs/2211.16505
Music:
Intermission in D by Miguel Johnson
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Cylinder Eight by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
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  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday Жыл бұрын

    I refuse to believe that no human derivatives will be able to play back my KZread videos if they’re here in a billion years.

  • @Deffno

    @Deffno

    Жыл бұрын

    Chocolate raiiiin!

  • @jk-en4bz

    @jk-en4bz

    Жыл бұрын

    A very strange development to the JMG video lore to be sure

  • @vapormissile

    @vapormissile

    Жыл бұрын

    This flashlight is basically a lightsaber. Stop dieting now.

  • @kirill42069

    @kirill42069

    Жыл бұрын

    Include me in the screencap

  • @yt.personal.identification

    @yt.personal.identification

    Жыл бұрын

    Who are you? And why are you shamelessly advertising your YT channel here? Here, have a moment of my attention.

  • @leahcimolrac1477
    @leahcimolrac1477 Жыл бұрын

    “Imagine if you were a member of an alien civilization.” Well, relative to them, I am.

  • @elguason6594

    @elguason6594

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control

    @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control

    Жыл бұрын

    It's awesome knowing that every alien who looks up to the stars and wonders if there's anyone else out there? Yeah that's me. I'm that alien. I'm the thing among the stars lol.

  • @seanmorrissy7347

    @seanmorrissy7347

    Ай бұрын

    @@Stand_By_For_Mind_Controlthey already know that bro, they’re watching you

  • @adambrain8365
    @adambrain8365 Жыл бұрын

    I have one bad ear from guns, and now one bad eye from welding. But I still get to watch and listen to you with my redundant parts. And that I am thankful for.

  • @wstavis3135

    @wstavis3135

    Ай бұрын

    One is none. Two is one. Redundancy saves....

  • @MathAdam
    @MathAdam Жыл бұрын

    If the universe hosts intelligent life, why doesn’t this channel have more subscribers?

  • @HaitianHallow

    @HaitianHallow

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahhahaha best joke i've heard all day

  • @nutbastard

    @nutbastard

    Жыл бұрын

    Third of a million is nothing to sneeze at.

  • @drummergod2006

    @drummergod2006

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the majority of people are still plugged in to the matrix.

  • @DarkMeyer777

    @DarkMeyer777

    Жыл бұрын

    I can answer, because the intelligent life does not live on planet earth and does not have access to this channel

  • @unkledoda420

    @unkledoda420

    Жыл бұрын

    Because unfortunately most human life seems intent on making themselves dumber by the minute.

  • @AD-df5tm
    @AD-df5tm Жыл бұрын

    This is definitely my preferred solution to the Fermi paradox. It makes the most sense.

  • @stricknine6130
    @stricknine6130 Жыл бұрын

    Necro-signatures are a fascinating yet scary thought. Imagine discovering only worlds with ruins and tombs. Thanks for the video Merry Christmas John!

  • @wolfvale7863

    @wolfvale7863

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah we would instantly assume there was a threat and spend ages trying to CSI an alien dead world. That is just one! Imagine if we found more planets with DOA civilizations on them. That would be it...We build Battlestars! Finding out when we are done, the civilization died after they depleted and polluted their planet making Battlestars!

  • @TheKruxed

    @TheKruxed

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, stumbling into the Necrons would be a bad day

  • @llongone2

    @llongone2

    Жыл бұрын

    We have already seen them; but the evidence of their extinct civilizations are buried under 5 meters of dirt and dust.

  • @RealButcher

    @RealButcher

    Жыл бұрын

    Yess.... The Talos Principle... loved this game.You're an android in a dead world, long after humans.

  • @ctakitimu

    @ctakitimu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wolfvale7863 But imagine if the destruction we found was many years beyond what we could do technologically speaking. Suddenly we'd cower and not explore any further

  • @DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague
    @DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague Жыл бұрын

    I love when I get a notification for this channel

  • @Max-me9xq

    @Max-me9xq

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here brother

  • @oatlord

    @oatlord

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm going to guess you were formerly employed with dollar general?

  • @colorad6018

    @colorad6018

    Жыл бұрын

    I love my Hiv

  • @justinakers3196

    @justinakers3196

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah fuck DG

  • @JohnMichaelGodier

    @JohnMichaelGodier

    Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact! I worked at a DG when I was 18 for about a year. Would have been 1994. It's was the lowest paying job I've ever had, and quit for a better paying seasonal job at the mall as a Christmas elf in the Santa display.

  • @carbonstar9091
    @carbonstar9091 Жыл бұрын

    If a civilization falls in the intergalactic forest and no one is around to witness it. Did it ever really exist?

  • @thelukesternater

    @thelukesternater

    Жыл бұрын

    I did…

  • @mikeellchuk3787

    @mikeellchuk3787

    Жыл бұрын

    technically, given that time is relative, if something figured out how to teleport matter from one place to another it could also navigate time the same way. Teleportation and time travel are one and the same.

  • @edwelndiobel1567

    @edwelndiobel1567

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep!

  • @michaelblacktree

    @michaelblacktree

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a sobering thought. When we look at stellar remnants in our telescopes, we could be looking at dead civilizations and never know it. Because all trace of their existence was erased when the star died.

  • @bradleypoe6846

    @bradleypoe6846

    Жыл бұрын

    Ideally it did, depending on what it did, and what kind of evidence trail it leaves behind. :) But of course entropy, the passage of time, and certain passive-aggressive species of person who constantly doubt their science way more than they question their politics? Those are all things I guess.

  • @briancook3125
    @briancook3125 Жыл бұрын

    The Great Silence is a direct result of other civs stumbling onto JMG’s channel and not having time nor interest for anything else.

  • @lieutenantartus
    @lieutenantartus Жыл бұрын

    Just stopping by to thank you for the countless nights of sleep, John. I have insomnia so I like to listen to space-related things to drift off.

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    @ramonpizarro

    Жыл бұрын

    Try the SEO channel

  • @daemeonation3018

    @daemeonation3018

    Жыл бұрын

    This, , Isaac Arthur, and Horrorbabble. 😂

  • @LoFi3

    @LoFi3

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ramonpizarro did you mean SEA? He also does good space videos

  • @PhantomFilmAustralia

    @PhantomFilmAustralia

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a compliment and an insult at the same time! 😂

  • @dm3ris

    @dm3ris

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Try PBS space time for mind fuxx Max, history of universe for mid, and SEA for low, low - deasnt means low content, but clearly told, and very calming voice.

  • @benjames8211
    @benjames8211 Жыл бұрын

    thats why its so important for us to spread our seed and seed the cosmos

  • @peaceandloveusa6656

    @peaceandloveusa6656

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. The best way to ensure our future selves encounter alien life is for us to spread out across the universe until we have been separated for so long that we eventually discover a completely different species with a shared ancestry.

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid Жыл бұрын

    It's sad to think of all the worlds out there with no conscious being to experience them.

  • @danf7411

    @danf7411

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised if most multi cellular life are sea creatures just living in the dark under miles of ice

  • @ecognitio9605

    @ecognitio9605

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the exact opposite of sad actually. Consciousness isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Those planets will never host pain, suffering, depression etc..... you've got to look at it from both sides.

  • @TobascoCatMC

    @TobascoCatMC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ecognitio9605But by Also not being concious these possible alien lives will never be aware of themselves or anything around them. Neither the good nor the bad. We are all bound to death (whatever that brings) but by being conscious of our and everything else’s existence, we are a part of the universe and the universe is also a part of us. You know “if a tree falls” and even if humans were to die tomorrow. We can for sure say that at least one advanced, conscious and philosophical organism has existed in this vast vast universe.

  • @happycampers6592

    @happycampers6592

    Жыл бұрын

    Never looked at it from that angle. There could be billions of earth-like planets without anyone to enjoy them, or anyone to pollute and destroy them.

  • @lukehahn4489

    @lukehahn4489

    Жыл бұрын

    so we have a grand project ahead of us.

  • @absolutelyreel8795
    @absolutelyreel8795 Жыл бұрын

    One of the things that intrigues me about humans trying to unravel the secrets of the Fermi paradox is; as a civilization we have had science for ~5000 years (gross over estimate imo), that is only 0.00000036% of the age of the universe. I believe our understanding of the universe is just too small to know what we would be looking for when it comes to advanced intelligence with possibly billions of years of experience and knowledge above us. Ant hill in the Amazon, not being able to see New York...

  • @User-jr7vf

    @User-jr7vf

    Жыл бұрын

    We humans do science since the beggining of our species. I think what you mean is that only in the last couple thousand years we begun understanding that there are other worlds that might host life besides the Earth.

  • @sunshadow9704

    @sunshadow9704

    Жыл бұрын

    There isn’t a direct correlation between our age as a society and what we may know. Your conclusion is inaccurate.

  • @ericbrown8479

    @ericbrown8479

    Жыл бұрын

    This is my problem with modern physics that is so certain of their truths that can’t be broken ever even in another 10,000 years of scientific progress like faster than light travel. You’ve been doing this for basically a 100 years, let’s have some humility in your conclusions.

  • @boobah5643

    @boobah5643

    Жыл бұрын

    The universe doesn't get more complex as it ages; just more spread out, and colder. Your assumption seems to be that there will always be more science to discover, and that is certainly not clear at all.

  • @thegorgon7063

    @thegorgon7063

    Жыл бұрын

    We've had science, perhaps not codified, for way longer than that go to Europe and the middle east and you'll find structures dating back more than 7000 years. Their construction required scientific knowledge...

  • @viennapalace
    @viennapalace Жыл бұрын

    Frankly, I'd be most worried about intelligent broccoli. That plant has had some nasty things said about it over the years & it would harbor some very deep resentment against us...

  • @JohnMichaelGodier

    @JohnMichaelGodier

    Жыл бұрын

    I like broccoli. But the problem is I've spent my life ROASTING it in olive oil and herbs. Or stir frying it in a wok. I don't want to meet broccoli in a dark alley during the coming vegetable reckoning.

  • @fiachramaccana280

    @fiachramaccana280

    Ай бұрын

    Ironically the broccoli haters tend to leave it alone. Its the broccoli lovers that have much to fear......

  • @joesands8860

    @joesands8860

    Ай бұрын

    Smothered in sharp cheddar.

  • @busch6538
    @busch6538 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you John, We all love the channel. The Fermi Paradox videos are my favorite. P.S. I know my comment sounds cheesy but I was sleeping and I got the notification so now I have to watch it before I go back to sleep.

  • @eddieclay92
    @eddieclay92 Жыл бұрын

    John makes you think about so many different things on a very very deep level. Scenarios that are unbelievable, but also very possible.

  • @mitchkuchenberg762
    @mitchkuchenberg762 Жыл бұрын

    John! I'm grateful for your channel. Every time I see your notifications I look forward to watching.

  • @MrGaborseres
    @MrGaborseres Жыл бұрын

    I totally love the soothing voice of this narrator 🙂 how he can explain some of the most terrifying possibilities of alien life with ease......kinda "it is what it is" kinda voice 🙂. I love it, he helped me a great deal trying to find out in the twilight of my life what this life is all about. Thank you, I truly appreciate your chanel. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @WindKing0
    @WindKing0 Жыл бұрын

    Heh awesome, always nice to get a fresh one - Just happened to check my subscriptions 14 seconds after this published 😃

  • @woltersworld
    @woltersworld Жыл бұрын

    Santa came early! And it is exactly what I asked for. A JMG video! Thank you Santa, or at least that beareded man in Missouri :)

  • @editorrbr2107
    @editorrbr2107 Жыл бұрын

    This is actually my preferred solution to the “paradox” - you’re asking to hit a needle in an infinite haystack spaced out over literally billions of years. I firmly believe that we will find something one day, but it is most likely to be technological, probably inert, or outright necrosignatures. I think the Mass Effect trilogy nailed this pretty well: of the hundreds of planets you land on/scan, mostly you find ruins and desolation and evidence of those long-dead.

  • @jimreaper1337

    @jimreaper1337

    Жыл бұрын

    But thats just it, we don't see any evidence of alien civilizations, when we should literally see either the evidence of or atleast the remnants of them everywhere!! At our current technology level we could colonize our entire galaxy in less than 10 million years, so slightly older alien civilizations have had more than enough time that we should see evidence of them even just looking out into our own night sky, but we don't we don't see any evidence of any alien civilizations anywhere in any galaxy!! Thats fcucking terrifying

  • @AppiusOS
    @AppiusOS Жыл бұрын

    The planet you describe at the start would be absolutely fascinating from an ecological viewpoint. Because there would be basically a ribbon of habitability, competition would be very different from what we have on Earth. I imagine that periodically there would be a swarm of nomadic organisms that must always move around the planet in search of food sources, like driver ants in the rainforests of South America do. Anything that hopes to survive would have to flee into the deserts on either side for a period of time to escape the onslaught.

  • @peaceandloveusa6656

    @peaceandloveusa6656

    Жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of an experiment done with A.I. a while back. They programmed one species of dots to be predator, the other prey, then watched each side learn and adapt to their environment. The sides of the experiment looped so the corner build-up issue would not be a factor. In the end, the predators formed a line of death that scrolled from bottom to top, looping back down to the bottom and starting over in a continuous stream of death, just like you described with the ribbon planet. They did not starve because the evenly distributed band of predators would collide with more and less dense pockets of prey, with more or less resilient traits among them, leaving a few prey behind each sweep to then reproduce, ready to feed the predators on their next loop. It eventually balanced out so that there would always be a lot of prey directly in front of the line of predators, and scattered prey behind the line reproducing. It was quite enjoyable to watch. I can imagine a similar process would be very advantageous to a species on a ribbon ecosystem. The prey that survived would be those that adapted to surviving the swarm as it passed by. After all, most organisms have specific food needs, so they could not simply run around the ribbon to stay ahead of it. They would need their own food source, which would likely be in specific locations on the planet with the right terrain. Plants that could resist the swarm would be essential to unintelligent prey, perhaps rooted plants such as potatoes, and likely farmed by any intelligent species that evolved in such a world as a primary food source. Perhaps fruit-type organisms would never exist at all, and the swarm would simply eat the exposed bits of plants, and any animal that did not have shelter or other protections, with plants and animals on the planet simply going into hibernation during the swarm, then coming back out when they have passed. Lots of interesting possibilities.

  • @retro8696

    @retro8696

    Жыл бұрын

    Just think of the creepy looking things that are living there.

  • @RingwelskiJacek

    @RingwelskiJacek

    Жыл бұрын

    If I remember right there wouldn't be a habitable zone between the two extremes. As it would be subject to constant violent weather conditions. 🙄

  • @darkbee2359

    @darkbee2359

    Жыл бұрын

    I think there are a number of real planets discovered where this is the case, like Promixa Centauri B. It's very interesting to think about how life might evolve on planets like these. You would think that organisms in these environments could have very unique adaptations not seen here on Earth. For example, if you never naturally experience a day and night cycle, how do you manage periods of rest?

  • @bartstewart8644
    @bartstewart8644 Жыл бұрын

    This channel is so far ahead of the average UFO KZreadr it is laughable to even compare them. The Time Problem! I always thought that the solution to the Fermi Paradox was simply the vast distances involved, and that real aliens may not be inclined to try to contact anyone, even by sending probes. This video may be the first time I have ever heard the (now obvious) idea that TIME separates us as well.

  • @88mphDrBrown

    @88mphDrBrown

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's definitely both barring something else like the filter hypotheses (some of which time is a part of). Honestly the paradox has always struck as absurd given the distances involved, it seems to put undeserved importance on humans and earth. It seems analogous to popping up in some random place in a large desert and instantly asking "where is everyone?", it seems like an unrealistic and illogical expectation. I've thought about it a lot and I think you're right about some sort of probe being involved in first contact. It's possible they or a probe already passed by.

  • @brownro214

    @brownro214

    Жыл бұрын

    Bart, I have made that point on a number of channels. In order for galactic civilizations to even be aware of each other requires not that their technological periods overlap each other but that their tech periods overlap the time-distance factor. As JMG said any alien civilization more than 100 or so light years from Earth would not be aware that technological life exists here. If they are say 10,000 light years away they could possibly die out before our signal reaches them. If they haven't reached a technological level yet but do by the time our signals reach them and they reply, we might be extinct by the time their return signal reaches Earth. This is even more extreme for civilizations in other galaxies.

  • @markfox1545

    @markfox1545

    Жыл бұрын

    You weren't aware of timespace? Wow.

  • @rickevans7941

    @rickevans7941

    Жыл бұрын

    Von Neumann probes solve the distance issue. If a civilization launched self replicating probes capable of traveling at just 0.1c they could colonize an entire Milky Way sized galaxy in ~500k years. He and Fermi basically started this whole argument lol

  • @Madamb2
    @Madamb2 Жыл бұрын

    ive been waiting since i found this channel for u to tackle this issue, im so grateful you finally have, much love keep it up!!

  • @zachosborne6577
    @zachosborne6577 Жыл бұрын

    Short and concise. Love your videos bro, happy holidays!

  • @boobah5643
    @boobah5643 Жыл бұрын

    As Isaac Arthur has noted a number of times, being supplanted by your creations isn't a great filter, not for Fermi Paradox purposes, because the creations (whether uplifted organics or machines) are still there with the civilization they inherited.

  • @cizmo9917
    @cizmo9917 Жыл бұрын

    This quickly has become one of my favorite KZread channels ever. Constant uploads of consistent high quality and extremely interesting content while being educational. Thanks for all you do, John.

  • @chriscooke109
    @chriscooke109 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the deluge of top content John!

  • @maltheopia
    @maltheopia Жыл бұрын

    I think it's a bit of a leap of faith to assume that once an alien civilization is at the Stone Age, they will (given sufficient resources) advance to our level of technology and beyond. There might be something about civilization that causes it to stagnate and halt internal progress indefinitely, until the inevitable collapse and resource/knowledge scattering. That was the story of human civilization for thousands of years; you got about to the level of the Western Romans and then the effort of the empire maintaining itself halted technological progress -- especially because technological progress is a huge threat to empires, especially pre-industrial ones.

  • @User-jr7vf

    @User-jr7vf

    Жыл бұрын

    "That was the story of human civilization for thousands of years". Yes. Now take that to the millions of years. Even better: assume that billions of years have passed. Then you conclude that given enough time, the civilization might evolve into something that can communicate with others in the nearby stars (which is our case, at least). The problem with this line of reasoning is of course, to assume that it will happen for sure. As you said, something can happen along the way that annihilates the possibility of interplanetary communication for that particular civilization.

  • @jeremyloveslinux

    @jeremyloveslinux

    Жыл бұрын

    The key seems to be fossil fuels as a gateway to large scale renewable energy, the trick being using it only long enough to make that transition without making your world uninhabitable.

  • @BenumbedNuts
    @BenumbedNuts Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for covering this vastly-under-appreciated topic

  • @MmM-gw3lc
    @MmM-gw3lc Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! I have been thinking for a while now that this aspect is often brushed aside or not given it's proper weight in these kinds of discussions.

  • @larrygraham3377
    @larrygraham3377 Жыл бұрын

    Really love your videos. They really hit the Mark in regards to alien civilizations that may exist or may have existed. Keep up the great work !!! 👽👽👽

  • @Mainely_Sota
    @Mainely_Sota Жыл бұрын

    Love the show! Long time listener. Keep them coming brother !

  • @MajorBorris
    @MajorBorris Жыл бұрын

    For me time has always been the greatest distance between the Fermi paradox and a solution.

  • @twonumber22

    @twonumber22

    Жыл бұрын

    True. And virtual reality.

  • @chriscowan7098
    @chriscowan7098 Жыл бұрын

    Always love it when I see you have a new video

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video as always, John! Thanks!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 Merry Christmas and happy new year!

  • @darkdreamer921
    @darkdreamer921 Жыл бұрын

    John, your vast knowledge and understanding of our universe inspires me!

  • @contemplatingangel
    @contemplatingangel Жыл бұрын

    The one thing that addresses the time problem is bio signatures as precursors to complex life like the great oxygenation event. Oxygen in the atmosphere provided energy for life to diversify. Oxygen is easy to detect from many light years away and lasts billions of years. Tech signature like radio are too weak and may be superceded entirely over tiny time periods of a century or less.

  • @stevenwillard8436
    @stevenwillard8436 Жыл бұрын

    Gosh, listening to you is the best. This one was particularly good.

  • @LAMPROS311
    @LAMPROS311 Жыл бұрын

    I admire your dedication to provide great, thought-provoking content to the world. Merry Christmas John or as we say in Greece: "Καλά Χριστούγεννα!".

  • @digitalfootballer9032
    @digitalfootballer9032 Жыл бұрын

    Not that any JMG video is bad, heck not than any isn't absolutely great, but let's be honest here, the Fermi Paradox videos are by far the best!

  • @antonsimmons8519
    @antonsimmons8519 Жыл бұрын

    I still find it likely that the biggest filter out there isn't nukes or wars or whatever. I think it's species not getting grabby soon enough. If you don't spread out, you're easier to wipe out in a single event, or sequence of events.

  • @peaceandloveusa6656

    @peaceandloveusa6656

    Жыл бұрын

    100%. Nothing says great filter like betting the survival of a species on a rock floating around in space sustaining life indefinitely. We have already had multiple extinction-level events on this rock. Any one of them could have meant we never got the chance to exist. It is guaranteed we have a time limit to spread beyond this rock, and no way of knowing if it is already too late until we are successful in making self-sustaining colonies elsewhere.

  • @monke8478

    @monke8478

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting thought

  • @DarkMeyer777

    @DarkMeyer777

    Жыл бұрын

    Once Human hit space flight, our motto should be: Relentless pursuit of space exploration and expansion of the Earth Federation using capitalism as our main core principal.

  • @thatdognotthepuppy5809

    @thatdognotthepuppy5809

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarkMeyer777 That'd be incredibly cringe and would only serve to extend our past mistakes.

  • @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    @useodyseeorbitchute9450

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thatdognotthepuppy5809 Yeah, don't count on those wimpish merchant values - more effective would be combo of space level manifest destiny with ideology that protects against hedonism and decadence like religious fundamentalism mixed with ulranationalism.

  • @youngblood2
    @youngblood2 Жыл бұрын

    You are spot on, with the madness of even beginning to understand the unimaginable complex subject matter!

  • @Bladesauce
    @Bladesauce Жыл бұрын

    I wish there was a new video everyday… I always listen to help me sleep. I am left with wonder and inspiration. Thank you so much.

  • @cristinataliani5619
    @cristinataliani5619 Жыл бұрын

    An excellent presentation!!! So much food for thought!!!!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful and thought provoking stuff!

  • @peterschattmann8298
    @peterschattmann8298 Жыл бұрын

    This was a very stimulating video. Thank you.

  • @MERC905
    @MERC905 Жыл бұрын

    😊thx for the upload sir

  • @PilatesGuy1
    @PilatesGuy1 Жыл бұрын

    🚀🚀👍👍Endlessly fascinating topic - thanks, as always. Happy New Year. More Fermi Paradox in the new year, please.

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison8478 Жыл бұрын

    There is a tremendous amount of fascinating speculation that is possible, but the real way forward is to keep developing our technological capability related to The One Big Question. Bigger and better telescopes, better radio systems, better understanding of genetics, synthetic life and so on, and all supporting areas. It may take a long time for fact to obviate the meanderings of science fiction. Then again, on some plausible trajectories, maybe not all that long.

  • @barkasz6066
    @barkasz6066 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect for Thursday morning breakfast, thank you John!

  • @nickrizzi31
    @nickrizzi31 Жыл бұрын

    These days I have little to get excited about. You Mr. Godier, keep me looking forward to a new day of good conversation.

  • @sitbone3
    @sitbone3 Жыл бұрын

    Best analysis of the Fermi Paradox I’ve ever come across.

  • @jeffersonott4357
    @jeffersonott4357 Жыл бұрын

    This is the best explanation by my thinking, and, I had never thought of it before. Thank you JMG. I’ve read supermind, I really like it, and I really like your channel too.

  • @JohnMichaelGodier

    @JohnMichaelGodier

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Happy holidays!

  • @jeffersonott4357

    @jeffersonott4357

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JohnMichaelGodier to you and yours as well.

  • @glomerol8300
    @glomerol8300 Жыл бұрын

    This was great. Great voice, narration and imagery.

  • @RetroCloudie
    @RetroCloudie Жыл бұрын

    i’ve been binging these videos for the past month

  • @MrFlazz99
    @MrFlazz99 Жыл бұрын

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the hypothesis that civilizations don't tend to endure for huge lengths of time and that combined with the possibility of civilizations having come and gone in the space of a few thousand years at various times over the course of billions of years makes it vanishingly unlikely that we might 'see' (or 'hear from') another civilization during the time we have the capability.

  • @ZionistWorldOrder
    @ZionistWorldOrder Жыл бұрын

    Only 13 minutes? Time problem indeed.

  • @PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony
    @PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony Жыл бұрын

    Two civilizations that existed at the same time wouldn't work, you would need the sender to be younger so that they might still be around when the response came. If they lived in the same time period then it seems like the odds of either of them being around when the receiver gets first contact would seem slim.

  • @johngeier8692

    @johngeier8692

    Жыл бұрын

    It is possible for 2 civilisations to develop on adjacent habitable planets around the same star.

  • @aeriagloris4211

    @aeriagloris4211

    Жыл бұрын

    Or there are vastly superior communication possibilities

  • @jakeg3126

    @jakeg3126

    Жыл бұрын

    No has to exist at same to meet can’t exist in past or future

  • @alfredsutton4412
    @alfredsutton4412 Жыл бұрын

    Must be Thursday! I guess it depends which side of the dateline, eh? Thanks, JMG. You keep my mind active.

  • @zooot820
    @zooot820 Жыл бұрын

    The ‘ships passing in the night’ scenario, i like that.

  • @randypage26
    @randypage26 Жыл бұрын

    Great content the best Fermi solution I've ever heard.

  • @firebird6522
    @firebird6522 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, never been this early for one of John's videos. Getting it good and fresh right out of the oven.

  • @saramolet3614
    @saramolet3614 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great video!!!

  • @KILLCHRISU
    @KILLCHRISU Жыл бұрын

    I gotta say JMG, this is easily your most thought provoking video and I’ve been watching you for years! Really well spoken and explained. Not easy to do when you’re tackling something as big and open ended as this.

  • @dm3ris

    @dm3ris

    Жыл бұрын

    It's very good. But really not the best. I wash lot of this stuff. PBS space time, cool worlds, sea, and secrets of universe. Are my top. But still I check out other brothers too. It's tunneling how awesome we and all this stuff are

  • @dm3ris

    @dm3ris

    Жыл бұрын

    Mostly stunned I was with SEA and NO ads... Then I can just play it and relax, not thinking when the add will play and wayt to switch it off.

  • @KILLCHRISU

    @KILLCHRISU

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dm3ris I said it was HIS best relative to HIS work. I did not compare him to the rest of the astronomy community. We’re all aware of the other channels.

  • @Vikings1998
    @Vikings1998 Жыл бұрын

    Very good and clear explanation of the Fermi Paradox 👍

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting and worthwhile video.

  • @ryang.5094
    @ryang.5094 Жыл бұрын

    Never been this early. Oh, and I love this channel obviously. One of the best on KZread , and that’s saying alot

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom Жыл бұрын

    Shoutout to this channel for always providing an interesting take on Cool Space Facts™️

  • @jimreaper1337

    @jimreaper1337

    Жыл бұрын

    This channel is the Singularity past the *Event Horizon*

  • @jimreaper1337
    @jimreaper1337 Жыл бұрын

    It still massively blows my mind that we can get all matter everywhere, planets, suns, dust, water, fire, complex life forms & even consciousness from essentially a few fundamental particles, gasses & universal forces... And all from a tiny point in not space only a relatively short time ago (14 billion years in the whole lifespan of the universe is a drop in an ocean) and were all just cool with this!!

  • @Votrae
    @Votrae Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed today's. Hell I enjoy all of your videos, today was extra good though.

  • @marsovac
    @marsovac Жыл бұрын

    0:50 in such a world the twilight place in the middle is the most deadly, the atmospheric osmosis between the two opposites would create such winds that they would strip everything there.

  • @artthefarter
    @artthefarter Жыл бұрын

    Reality is far more strange than any fiction that can be created

  • @barrontrump3943

    @barrontrump3943

    Жыл бұрын

    Fiction is based off of reality lol

  • @oliverharris7366
    @oliverharris7366 Жыл бұрын

    The way people suffer and die from disease such as Cancer and other diseases it would be a blessing for people to lose their biological form. I watched loved ones suffer and die from cancer it would be blessing big time to leave these fragile bodies.

  • @richardsleep2045
    @richardsleep2045 Жыл бұрын

    Good one Michael, thanks.

  • @Timfruhling
    @Timfruhling Жыл бұрын

    finally someone explaining a good answer to the Fermi Paradox (which I don't think personally is actually a paradox, as there are many reasons it's quiet out there). But, the time problem is a very good reason why we can't see many advanced civs out there. Approx 14 billion years since the Universe started, what are the chances of advanced civs crossing pathways bearing in-mind the enormous distances also involved? If an advanced civ even lasted 1 million years the odds of crossing pathways (ships in in the night) is extremely unlikely.

  • @spearshome0329
    @spearshome0329 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks JMG!

  • @pepe6666
    @pepe6666 Жыл бұрын

    merry christmas :) and liiiiive a merry new year

  • @edvinboskovic9963
    @edvinboskovic9963 Жыл бұрын

    We need just one , just one techno or necro signature. It can be tomorrow , it can be 10.000 years from now. We don't know. Also , we don't currently have the slightest idea of how technological civilizations evolve and what their duration is. Either way, there's got to be something out there in distant space, must be. Whether or how we can detect it, we don't know yet. Solution for Fermi is most likely time and distances. Thank You for another great video.

  • @michaelharder3055
    @michaelharder3055 Жыл бұрын

    So here we got at least 3 good plot lines for science fiction novels, a couple of game ideas and the carrot filter.

  • @F1rVulg
    @F1rVulg Жыл бұрын

    Humans succeeded by Cosmic Carrots only to be displaced by Ominous Onions: a truly Lovecraftian scenario! Happy Christmas John & thanks for all the chewy concepts over the year :)

  • @DogfaceSquirrel

    @DogfaceSquirrel

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe someone should do reboot of "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" as an alien invasion

  • @bradleypoe6846

    @bradleypoe6846

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah. Depending on your choice of metaphors this is really just the first level of _Cuphead._ We're the potatoes, of course . . .

  • @Jay_in_Japan
    @Jay_in_Japan Жыл бұрын

    To anyone who thinks that altering our perception of time sounds like far-off sci-fi, consider this: we already have the technology to do just that. It's called psychedelics. And anyone who's had a psychedelic experience knows exactly how a few hours can seem like foreeeeeeeeverrrrrrr

  • @That_Freedom_Guy
    @That_Freedom_Guy Жыл бұрын

    While we speculate about fantastic and thought provoking possibilities in the future, the fact is that here and now, we are completely ignorant of who we are or where we really came from! Existence itself is a mystery, let alone being aware and conscious of it at the same time, is nothing less than an everyday miracle! Our very existence is characterised by mystery and ignorance if we are honest. What an exciting trip! Thanks.

  • @UpliftedCapybara
    @UpliftedCapybara Жыл бұрын

    That uplifted plants idea sounds like a good video lol

  • @LordSlag
    @LordSlag Жыл бұрын

    This one was EXCEPTIONALLY good.

  • @just_one_opinion
    @just_one_opinion Жыл бұрын

    Thank you boss!

  • @jasonhenderson3678
    @jasonhenderson3678 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid thank you

  • @whyukraine
    @whyukraine Жыл бұрын

    One of the scariest ideas to me is, 100 million years from now I may have been forgotten by all but a few.

  • @MrShnigglepuff

    @MrShnigglepuff

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll never forget.

  • @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr.
    @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr. Жыл бұрын

    Time as a proportionate to memory. Our perception of time is inherently linked to how much time we have already lived.

  • @nileswright8915
    @nileswright8915 Жыл бұрын

    definitely one of THE funniest videos on youtube EVER! Hats off to you! LMAO!

  • @williamdhughes6039
    @williamdhughes6039 Жыл бұрын

    "The time problem" is exactly what i was thinking about after around 30 seconds of monotone commentary.

  • @trickvro
    @trickvro Жыл бұрын

    If the uplifted carrots uplift the onions, who in turn uplift the celery, we'll have a mirepoix planet on our hands.

  • @cordatusscire344
    @cordatusscire344 Жыл бұрын

    I firmly believe if we are to find any sort of nearby techno signature, it will be on the Moon somewhere. It is one of the safest and most stable areas to leave a trace. Or, perhaps the moons of Mars. Being smaller has its advantages in terms of avoiding impacts, thus structural damage to any devices. And if it any are on our moon, I'd check the side facing us, subsurface. Somewhere deep enough for safety, but not so deep as to not ever be found.

  • @j.wildoutdoors8483
    @j.wildoutdoors8483 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @EventHorizon31
    @EventHorizon31 Жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking about this solution to the Fermi Paradox for a long time. I think it is the most likely answer.

  • @alex990ism
    @alex990ism Жыл бұрын

    honestly, i liked the jokes at the end with the carrots and onions, no sarcasm

  • @MeBallerman
    @MeBallerman Жыл бұрын

    Very good video, much better than other childish ones.

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

    1:14 That is a loaded statement, Mr. Godier.

  • @ucheehQ
    @ucheehQ Жыл бұрын

    "Imagine if you are a member of an alien civilization." I mean, I am. It's all about perspective.

  • @H8nji
    @H8nji Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of time, what if other species appear to move really slow or really fast to us because they experience time differently? Perhaps they are undetectable because they appear stagnant or pass and go in the blink of an eye.

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