Pure clean the 57/62’s do it for me, but when the effects come in the fat 50’s come into their own. Conclusion- you need at least 2 strats 😊

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

I concur hahaha

@steveindorset

Жыл бұрын

only two????

@ramencurry6672

Жыл бұрын

If you like both but can only choose one, the Fat 50s since the middle pick up is reverse wound for hum cancellation in positions 2 and 4

Interesting comparison. I like the Fat 50’s better. Both sound very similar, especially the neck PU, but the Fat 50’s to me sound a bit more open, have a bit more chime.

I've got a set of the 57/62 and really like them. The low end is nice and clear and not too ice picky on the highs

I have made thousands of strat loaded pickguards over the years. 57/62’s are my favorite. Fat 50’s are good, Texas Specials I hate, CS69’s are a close 2nd. 57/62’s are IMO what a strat sounds like.

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

Nice one 🤘🤘 im not in the thousands - more like dozens of all the popular sets and 57/62 still win for me too.

@vintagepearlguitars

20 күн бұрын

The CS69's are a close second to what? To Texas Specials or to 57/62?

@rabbithowls71

19 күн бұрын

@@vintagepearlguitars 57/62’s. As far as any pickups, not just Fender, Lindy Fralin Woodstocks would be just below 57/62’s in my book. A lot like CS69’s but more clarity and note separation, and with a baseplate a better bottom end. The different magnets give a definite change in character, can’t really articulate what it is, but it’s there. Also a lot more money. I was in my boutique or nothing phase for a few years. But after trying so many, and spending too much, you find the difference isn’t that big. Just like wiring scheme’s, at first it’s super fun to try all the things. In phase, out of phase, 1/2 out of phase, all 3 on, hss, hsh, noiseless with S1 and superswitch, mintoggles, all that. I made an HSH with 31 different pickup combinations, a challenge to wire up, but fun. In the end though, I come back to standard 5 way wiring. I would say only 2-3% of people will use any of those odd pickup combinations in everyday playing, except for the “check this out” factor. Leo got it pretty much 100% right in every aspect, that’s what I believe.

@nikolastanic2999

14 күн бұрын

What about duncan ssl1?

@rabbithowls71

14 күн бұрын

@@nikolastanic2999 SSL1’s, hmmm. IMO the SSL1’s are pretty close to 57/62’s, but they always seemed a bit sterile. A couple with an SSL5 in the bridge is a good set though. I really like the Lollar Blonde set a lot too, but the price is high. The 57/62’s just get there for the least amount of money. A whole set is close to a single Lollar or Fralin.

So I purchased the fat 50’s after watching this and installed them today. What I really really like is that there’s so much there that I actually dial the tone back to get into a sweet spot instead of my usual, playing with all tone pots maxed and begging for more with other pickups :) Thank you for making this video. I probably wouldn’t have discovered these without this video :)

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them, i do still have them fitted to my second strat so theyve lasted alot longer round here then the tex mex did haha

@LottimusMaximus

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-D Haha. Same same. My Tex-Mex’s are in my misc Strat parts box. Lol 😆.

@rogerYT69

8 ай бұрын

yes I like mine too, thx! but as you said, the output sweet Spot is around 7😊

Excellent shoot-out! Lots of demo done right. You say what needs to be said and leave it at that. I love it. Best comparison format I've seen in a while. I agree that they are so close. I immediately thought it would be good to have one of each because they cover similar territory, but, lean to different ends of the scale.

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man 🤘🤘

Another great comparison, extremely helpful. The 57/62s for me: all that I like about the strat tone.

@Paul-D

10 ай бұрын

Me too. These comparisons are only a vague idea at best but seems most people can hear the differences and pick there favourite.

After watching your videos I ended up buying Fender 57/62 pickups. Glad you made these videos.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Awesome hope you like them as much as i do 🤘🤘🤘

Thanks for the demo. I still prefer the 57/62s (which I have in my 1996 USA). The fat 50s are initially impressive but start to sound a bit too much and mono-tone compared to the nuances out of the 57/62s. So about 80-90% of the time I preferred the 57/62s. I'm guessing but I think I would get sick of the fast 50s in a short time.

What an absolute CRACKIN' comparo!! And VERY tasty playing at that - perfect choices to tonally match the pickup positions. I've yet to decide between these 2 but honestly, this has to be by far one of the best straight up excellent sounding and concise reviews I've seen on YT. Subscribed!!! Thank you.

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Thankyou man - appreciated

@MojoP

5 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D I ordered the F50s even though they're pricier. I'm banking with a slight adjustment in pickup height, I can attain or mimic the 57/62s quite convincingly if needed, but can't mimic the F50s with the 57/62s

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Yeh good thinking - they really are very close and im certain if you set the fat 50s a little lower then normal youll get that slight increased dynamic range the 57/62s have under the fingers

@MojoP

2 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D new guitar arrived with the F50s, and it's magnificent. Question if I may Paul, I noticed you're running all 3 pups on both these Strats quite low. Do you set by ear or have specific measurements you go by? May I ask what the distances are "open E / open e" on the neck and bridge if it's not too much trouble? And if you have an idea what your 8th fret relief is - that'd be absolutely amazing. Ballpark measurements are fine - I'm just fully enamoured with these new pups and have realized their full potential opens up when there's a healthy bit of distance between them and the strings. Thanks so much!! ✊

From reading one comments below I have changed my mind , in less that 3 minutes 😂, normally it’s quicker, as stated below I think after the initial period the fat 50’s would sound too bright , the 57/62 are more subtle , great video.

6:03 now wow holy moly those 57 / 62 's sound identical to Jimi they sound phenomenal particularly there

Love the 57/62 in my strat, it took me YEARS (like 7 years) to decide what set to put but once i tried them i didnt go back

Considering all settings stay the same, probably the 57/62s because I like that touch of warmth compared to the fat 50's. They sound almost identical except that little bit of high end frequency in the fat 50's.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

They really do. Your completely right - mad how accurate it seems to have come across on youtube. Usually im frustrated its not right haha.

@ramencurry6672

Жыл бұрын

Pick up heights can also play a factor too. Ultimately the pick up that sounds good in your system not on a KZread video should be the one to choose. Also a pick up with more high frequencies might possibly sound better in a song mix.

I have had the 57/62s in my #1 Strat for 13 years! ...I can't find anything else that sounds good to my ears.

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

Nothing has beat them yet for me either - although there are still countless ones out there to try 😅

I think the Fat 50s sound sweeter.

I gotta say I didn't notice any differences in the clean tones, but I sort of noticed the very very slightest of difference in the crunch sounds. I totally agree with what you said, Im still leaning towards the 57/62's and thanks to your videos will definitely be putting them in my 91' Strat. I was was never really on the fence about it, but you've helped me make that decision by giving me the extra info I needed with all theses comparisons, so thanks mate. 👍👍👍 Oh and yet again more great playing, top stuff. 👍

Both those strats sound great. It's hard to decide between the two. I think Sid is right to say you need two strats. What's so weird is I have a set of ceramic single coils I got on clearance from GFS for $15 a couple of years ago that sound amazing. CTS pots, orange drops and treble bleed, Switchcraft jack, CRL 5-way, pushback wire, shielding paint and body ground round things out. Still kinda crazy how good these GFS el cheapo pickups sound. Cheers!

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

I think 2 is a good place to start 😆 Ahh right ill have to try those i wonder if they are the ceramics in the new vintage coaster series

@georgestevens1502

9 ай бұрын

Guitar Fetish is great. I've bought strat pick ups, brass bridge block, pots, titanium saddles, 5 way switch and input jack to upgrade a Korean strat knock off (Bronx brand) I've played for 15 years. Insanely reasonable prices. The Bronx is now as good, and in some ways better, than my American Standard (2018) Fender Strat at 1/3 of the price. I like ceramic magnet speakers too. They really bark.

Great demo- thanks for putting this together! Very helpful in my decision making process. I think the Fat 50’s sound better across the board, to me anyway and my preference. Sounded more “classic Strat chime” IMHO.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. The fat 50s do have a little more top end on them. Some sounds that works in its favour some it can be a little brash. Even here in comments you see that which i find interesting 😀

Very nice sounds. I feel the neck is very important part of the sound. I put my 57/62 to maple neck strat and I could not be happier. They are not quite as magical as my Fullerton Grey Bobbins from 1982.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, Just recently I also swapped them over to a maple neck. You can hear them on my latest video on my new amp if interested :) I still haven't come across Strat pickups I like quite as much as the 57/62s although theres many that are close. There'll be some out there somewhere that I like more im sure!

Great review, good tones & thoughtful choice of demo pieces. Totally surprising results for me. Been a fan & have owned/fitted many of both pickups but never did an A/B comparison. If I’d listened blind, to this test, I’d have guessed 100% wrong. What do I know eh🥴? It’s a reminder why the 57/62 have been in production for so long. Someone commented that the Fat 50s do dirty up better than the 57/62s, I have to agree on that one but as ever, all this is subjective. We all have an idea of that perfect Strat sound, whatever that is?!

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, I have put the fat 50s in E flat tuning now and run them abit dirtier and very happy, but for me the 57/62 still rule the day. One thing I regret not putting in the video is the 57/62 do tend to be a TINY bit noisier on 'idol' as it were, but noisy single coils have never ever bothered me so it skipped my mind haha.

I listened very carefully through quality monitoring headphones and for me the fat 50's stray into a little bit of over brightness close to harshness even. The 57/62 sound balanced warm and luxurious, I think construction (rosewood neck) is also having an impact, as all other settings were equal. Great video thanks.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

You did listen on quality monitors because you are very right, to the point where ive now tuned it to E flat to try and take away by force some of that top end lol

@Blueguitar007

Жыл бұрын

I thought exactly the opposite, wearing JBL headphones. Weird

@joe.b944

5 ай бұрын

I agree mate

Vintage 60s and Texas Special my favorite Fender single coil pickups

Love boht! I heared maple vs rosewood more. Nice demo

Both great. Your playing was great too. I prefer the fuller sound of the fat 50s. But that’s just me

Hi your comments on set up are interesting. You are right. You should do a video on the difference in tone by set up only 😉.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

It would be huge difference, im very very fussy about the height of my pickups for that reason haha

This was incredibly useful. I'm starting a strat build and wanted to put Suhr pickups in it first, but since with electronics that would set me back closer to 600€ whereas a fender preloaded pickguard is only about 350€ I wanted to decide which fenders would be best. The fat 50's seem to have a whole lot of color and more rounded tones, but there's also a harshness to the top end that's off-putting. The 57/62 sound like everything you could hope for in a strat: lots of responsive dynamic range, percussiveness for all those funk & RnB rhythm tones plus lots of color for solos. I'm sold

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

The 57/62 set just seems to be pretty much unbeatable for any kind of strat application i could ever want. Glad the video was useful ☺️

Wow difficult to choose, have them both, they do sound like what they look like,great demo.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

They are really that close, definitely a little more drive to get out the FAt 50s and abit more of that top end but SO close! 2 strats is the answer haaha. whod of thought more guitars was the answer, wait.....

@ramencurry6672

Жыл бұрын

If you can only choose one, flip a coin. Work with the tones and make them sound like you. Remember, David Gilmour and many big name guitarists had no choice and just used stock pickups. They manipulated their fingers and amp settings to get the nuances to their taste.

Listening on Focal CMS65 monitors and I hear a very significant difference in sound between the two except the crunch tones were much closer. Found myself preferring the 57/62 in every example, 50s are way brighter and have much less bottom end. FWIW I have sensitive ears (and Misophonia) and am easily irritated by harsh treble / high volume treble.

Excellent work! Bravo ! The 62 has a “round, smooth “ tone and the 57 has more “ clarity , pop” … The 62 for Hendrix, the 57 for Knopfler… in the end as I have had both but could only afford to keep one I kept my 1956 reissue I felt like I could turn the to knobs on the amplifier or the guitar to achieve the 62, but I could not achieve the clarity of the 56 on the 62 … You can always change the tone of clarity, but it’s not easy to clean up a tone that is a little more subdued… you confirmed everything that I found and I am very sad about selling the 62 reissue but I know I made the right choice…

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man - as it happens im currently down the same rabit hole with humbuckers the last few weeks. Havent filmed any of it though lol

@veryhappy2681

5 ай бұрын

I’ll tell you at the end of the day you have to pick a lane … you have to decide what is that one or two guitar players, that have inspired you and the tone you absolutely love.. i’ve had about every guitar under the sun everything .. les pauls. Teles, you name it I’ve had it, and the same goes for amplifiers and pedals .. and once again, I can tell you this you can do everything with a Stratocaster and a fender tube amp.. And it doesn’t matter how your taste change everything from jazz , metal, country to Funk.. every guitar player that’s ever mattered to me as either played a Stratocaster or played one in the end… Keith Richards said it best “ nothing sounds as good as a fender guitar into a fender amplifier”… eventually every artist must draw a line … make a choice make commitment and stick with it. You’ll be a better guitar player because of it. And besides pedals can change and achieve most tones these days, and are much cheaper to trade and sell than guitars. Get a fender Stratocaster and fender Princeton and never look back

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Theres alot to be said for that - definitely. But also going through all of those things, in person, is invaluable experience and just fun (as long you do it in a way that doesn’t financially ruin you). Too many people now think they know so much more then they do because they watched a video, or someone they like said xyz. And truth is you just dont know until you physically get these things in your hands… and ears. For me, i dont do anything else… i dont drink ever, i dont eat out ever, no expensive car, i dont go on holidays, so ‘tone chasing’ or whatever someone might call it is just my thing haha.

honestly. If you told me they were the same pickups, i'd believe you. I feel like if i were to say theres a difference, it'd be physiological

@Paul-D

7 ай бұрын

They are VERY similar. Ive since swapped them to mitigate the necks and made no difference

I was back and forth on the two as, to my ears and with good headphones (limited, of course, by YT sound quality), the 50's and 57/62's were REALLY close to one another. Same tonal character, to me, with the 50's maybe having a tad more output that accounts for the differences I heard? But in a mix I don't think anyone would pick them out from each other, not honestly anyways. ;-) I swapped my Fender Gen 4 Noiseless in my 2017 Elite with the 57/62's. It turned what was some subtle stratty sounds into iconic ones. The noiseless are 'good pickups' in their own right, but to my ear they lack some harmonic richness vs. a conventional single coil AND they have muted strat qualities in the 2nd and 4th positions... I guess some would refer to this a quackiness, but I would just say classic strat tones your ears would expect from those positions, call it what you like. It was a worthwhile swap and really brought the Elite sonically to life in a way that's now equal to it's great construction and feature set. I can't speak to the latest gen Fender noiseless, but I can say that a strat with the Gen 4's will noticeably appreciate a pickup swap to the 57/62's and I'm confident the same would be true of the Fat 50's.

@Paul-D

4 ай бұрын

Your ears heard pretty much exactly what mine heard in the room and over a longer time then a video. These are the closest 2 fender sets ive heard to date for sure.

Hi mate, After listening several times I agree to your opinion about prefering the 57/62 The Fat 50’s are really close and would be a good second choice, they’re a bit “Lollar” to me The real difference that the 57/62 made was with “the Sultans of Swing” , (RW/RP????? Or as the original 3 pickups, no RW/RP middle pickup The Fat 50’s became rough💪 at the low- mid section and the 57/62’s stay clean🫣👍 Thank you thank you thank you for this video now I had made my decision and I could hear loud and clear the difference you played very well!!!!!! when you’re in Holland we go have some nice things 🫣🫣🫣🫣⚡️⚡️⚡️

Thanks for this! I love the 57/62s in my MIM Strat, but was curious about the Fat 50s. Would you mind sharing the pickup heights on your Strats?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Dont have exact measurements to hand but they were set as good as identical, which is the bass side only slightly above the scratch plate and the treble side slightly higher then that. Any time ive tried any strat pickups set higher i dont like the sound at all haha

nice comparison!! love your playing

@Jesse_Pinkman_whatup

Жыл бұрын

What's the title of the song when you play the driven neck pickup?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Yellow ledbetter Pearl Jam. You can play it an infinite number of ways always my go to tester for neck pup on a strat haha

@Jesse_Pinkman_whatup

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-D oh I see!! I forgot it's title hahaha thanks a lot for title and tips!

I love CS fat 50s and 69s . 57/62s are decent too.

Interesting, first off, you're a great player so they both aound amazing !!. But after listening to this now for the 3rd time, Im kinda leaning towards the Fat 50s. Unfortunately, I already ordered the 57/62s, and they'll be delivered tomorrow, lol. So for me its gonna be the 57/62 going forward, I'm sure I'll be happy ........Thanks

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, ill keep playing 😆 You wont be disappointed, the 57/62 set is still as good to me as any level of strat pickups ive ever heard. Theres plenty of decent more budget options too so its not a case of gear snobbyness… but there just a great set of pups for everything other then maybe VERY high gain.

First off..great playing. Whoa. My vote,having had both sets myself; is the 57/62s

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Is there anything out there you think beats the 5762?

@duck_5150

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-D not at all...I remember a couple yrs ago the 57s were cheap af; price wise.

In the in between postions I like the Fat 50's better, 1 - 3 - 5 the 57/62 pickups

It's a great public service you do mate 😎

Totally agree, very, very close with both sounding brilliant. I started to think that I couldn't tell the difference if I had not the visual to help, but then noticed slightly more 'chime' in the 50s. I could easily live with any of those two. A great comparison, done with playing that brought out the best of a 'Strat'. If I had to decide, I would go '50s', for the potential in a more punchy/driven use.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 🤘

@ramencurry6672

Жыл бұрын

If Hendrix had both pickups they would both sound like him so ultimately it’s your rig adjustment and fingers. If you’re torn between both models, then choose the Fat 50s since it’s hum canceling in position 2 and 4.

@Blueguitar007

Жыл бұрын

​@@ramencurry6672 that's because he'd be playing through an ice pick Marshall amp. .. live that is

They sound very similar to me. That John Mayer riff sounded so much better with the fat 50's though, so I would probably go with those. Awesome playing btw! Question: Is it worth putting these types of pickups in a Squier Strat?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

They are very close especially compared to my other shootouts. RE squire question - if you have one you like the feel and playing of then yeh for sure - remember youll need to upgrade the pots and caps along with the pickups though to make it fully worth it.

@michaelmay9059

11 ай бұрын

I would say yes. Tons of people who don't wanna drop $1600+ on a guitar will buy a Squire or Mexican strat and replace the pickups as well as the electronics. You get a guitar that sounds just as good as Am made for much cheaper

Thank you so much for the review. Actually, they are so close! The red one is the best!))) Could you please compare 57/62 and Fat 50s with Ultra Vintage noiseless?

@Paul-D

19 күн бұрын

Thanks dude - the only noiseless ones ive done so far were on a tele

Great demo. Both sound great but the 57/62s are more what I'm after at the moment.

@Paul-D

Ай бұрын

I still prefer them :) in either maple or rosewood fingerboard.

Going back and forth depending on clean/ dirty and position

Even at this point the fat 50's sounded cleaner and richer to me. Imagine if you actually paired them with the better electronics as the other ones. Thanks for the comparison video!

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Yeh would be nice if i had same electrics in both for sure

@GCKelloch

8 ай бұрын

All that really matters in the other components are the values. Pots of equal value all have the same effect on the sound unless there is something nearly shorting or not adequately grounded. A cheap "dime" size pot measuring 250k will have the same effect as a vintage CTS pot measuring the same. It's just a resistance value of Carbon, and the tone cap value makes no difference when the tone knob is up. I heard what you did b4 reading your description. There is likely some difference in the pickup heights, but the pickup sets are actually very close to the same spec with the 57/52 set being slightly higher inductance. The 57/62 set just shows ~1/2dB lower peak under the same resistance load in the GuitarFreak.xls file. Lacquered Maple FB's tend to damp less highs than bare Indian RW. It makes sense that the lacquer (polyurethane) stiffens the entire surface fiber/fret structure, which might otherwise absorb more highs. It's true of every comparison like this I've heard, and guitar neck I've owned, over the last 4+ decades.

I dig the 57/62 but the middle pickup from the fat 50s.... thank you you've given me a lot to think about... and buy lol

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

Have fun my dude

I'm fairly new to playing electric guitars but I've been playing bass for quite a while now. The '57/62 sounds better to my ears, a lot more cleaner sound more balanced and leaves room for a bass guitar to fill in. When effects are heavy it's not that noticeable, but as you get cleaner the examples you used for RHCP songs and Dire Straits really show the difference especially in Can't Stop bridge part. It's definitely not just in your head, I can see why you prefer these pickups. Great playing man! Inspired me to keep at it haha.

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Cheers man 🤘🤘

57/62s appear to be more dynamic in pretty much every scenario. They seem to pick up nuance better and are more percussive. I'm sold on the set being the most well rounded great sounding off the shelf strat pickups you can buy, and have been for a long time. I have had 2 strats with them and they both were my favorite strats ever. I deduced that it had less to do with the playability, as I own other strats that play just as well, but the ones with 57/62s just sonically blow away the others.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Still my favourite too 🤟

maybe im weird but i love the sound of the 50s ! epic

I love 57/62, they're the ones I have on my own Japanese strat. But I don't consider them necessarily better than fat 50s. One thing is quite clear to me. Fender has been doing great pickups for a while and cheaper than others. I fitted my g&l tele with yosemite pickups and they're an awesome value for the money

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

I was surprised how much I liked the Yosemite pickups in fairness. Underrated pickup set I think

Sorry my friend I think the 57 get a better tone, that being said they are on different guitar's. I have a Mexican stratocaster from around 95. It has a great tone and a few years ago I put a Fender tremola bridge on it and the difference was crazy. It keeps turning a lot better. Now that I saw your video I'm definitely ordering the fat 50's. Oh yea the Mexican fender bridge underside looked like it was leveled out by a 15 year old with a grinder.

Great video, I prefer the fat 50’s , in the red strat they would be ideal.

Those two are two of the best sets fender has ever made anyway so whatever someone chooses its a win..having said that..nothing can beat a set of kinmans...all the strattiness zero noise...perfection...

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Never tried kinmans but these 2 are the best sets of many many from fender ive tried too

@Dreamdancer11

5 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D They are....i think if you add The set eric johnson has on his strat you have the 3 best ones that fender makes....cant go wrong with any of them.....

I know I’m a little late to the game, but I like the 57/62 in the neck and middle and the fat 50s for the bridge. I may do this exact setup. That being said, if you lower the height of the fat 50s slightly, they may be just about the same all over or the 50s may even be better. Thanks for the video!

@Paul-D

6 ай бұрын

Late is always welcome here hahaha. Yeh a combo of both sets in that way would be getting that extra squeeze out of them, but damnn need some good budget haha.

@chiman360

6 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D I wish you could buy individual pickups from fender and not the whole set. That’s why last year I bought Seymour Duncan SSL-1s for my HSS Strat because I only needed two pickups. They sound very similar to the fat 50s. Love your playing by the way

@Paul-D

6 ай бұрын

For sure, would be a lot better - and makes sense to offer the option to tailer make your own set. The fender mod shop online is hilariously shite for that sort of thing haha. Im back in the pickup rabit hole atm with my gold top P90. Thanks man, appreciated.

@chiman360

6 ай бұрын

Is the sunburst fat 50s Strat a black label traditional Strat from 95 or 96?

@Paul-D

6 ай бұрын

No its just a mim from 2016 with the pups and pots swapped

50s have better fullness. The 57,62 sound like thin and fuzzy. I think they both sound as advertised.

@Blueguitar007

10 ай бұрын

Exactly.

Love the “Bad Penny,” riff!!

@Paul-D

2 ай бұрын

Forever a work in progress haha

How funny! I am now getting rid of my 57/62s which I switched out the Fat 50s for and now going back to the F50s. So FAT 50Ss!

I have a '95 Rosewood board Mexican Standard Strat modified with 57/62 set. The cleans are IMMACULATE! I will not change it! The drawbacks are they are not hum cancelling, all pickups are wired identically, and if you play with distortion, the set should be placed farther from the strings or you'll get this irritating screeching overtones. Compared to the Fat '50s set they almost sound very identical. But the 57/62 has more dynamics and more balanced tone. The Fat '50s advantage however is it is hum cancelling and probably the bridge pickup is wound slightly higher. Had the bridge pickup of the Fat 50s has warmer sound, I could have considered switching models.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Yup you picked up very accurately exactly the differences and characteristics of the sets. The non rw middle has never bothered me too much but yeh you can definitely set them against you haha

I'm Les Paul guy looking for a strat and have a liking for the fat 50s pickups. But this demo splits me into liking both, very close in likability. They don't beat the FFs though, so I'll stick with them. Good demo!!!

@Paul-D

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, I think the fat 50s do handle more drive abit better. And if your a humbucker guy that will be appreciated im sure haha. Ive recently been alot more won over by humbuckers too and sometimes struggle to go back to the strats 😅

@Pegasus4213

10 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D Right! Thanks for that! It's odd, I always loved Hendrix playing!

@Paul-D

10 ай бұрын

I think its a weird thing us guitarists do. Theres loads of players and songs i love but have never even wanted to try and play them on guitar or get those tones myself hahaa.

Ambos.....excelente...saludos desde Puerto Rico.

I think the difference in sound is mainly due to the different types of wood on the fingerboard, maple and rosewood. When in doubt, I suggest using pickup models that match, or as closely as possible, the original Fender configuration. Fat 50 for maple fingerboard and 57/62 for rosewood fingerboard.

@Paul-D

7 ай бұрын

Its not. I promise. Ive swapped them since and made no real difference

EXCELLENT! Both are ridiculously lovely....no substitute for having both guitars, hahahahahaha

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Both is better 99% of the time haahha

Those 57/62 sounds fenomanal!

Hi Paul I keep coming back at this vid, I was reading Squier Classic Vibe have toneriders pickups in them the CV 50s has Tonerider Safari ones, I have secound hand Obsidian Wiring ST Blender 250k and Tonerider Pure Vintage Strat Set which sound like fender customshop fat 50s maybe bit 57/62s you should try them if people like squier CV? and please check out the Artist Signature Electric Guitars they are the as good as squier CV WOULD MAKE A GREAT VID? that's if your still one of us?

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

Yeh the first few years from 2008 on CVs had tone riders. Havent had them now for years though sadly 😪 part of what makes the earlier ones so much better. Got a link the the other guitars you mentioned?

@Davedarave6661

5 ай бұрын

thats good to know cheers.

The 57/62’s they are smoother in the top end and bottom end. A rounder tone. The fat 50’s are a bit brittle IMHO.

Hi Paul just watched the video again and Im stuffed again. Those fat 50s are really very good I really, am beginning to warm to them more and more. What amp were you playing them through? Also the Fat 50 middle pickup is reverse wound for noise reduction, where as the 62s aren't. Did you notice any difference in the noise? Were the 62's noisier?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

No difference in noise to me, personally i never get the bother of single coil hum its just part of the sound to me, as long as it goes away when playing it dont matter just turn volume down when not playing lol. The amp was my jubilee 20w head on this one :)

@steveindorset

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-DNice one me either bud. But the way some are talking about the 62's they make em sound like there's a gaggle of magpies sqwarking in the back garden!! I used to rehearse with an original 50w jubilee, man that thing used to sing and wail!! Ok thanks again..... I'm still undecided....but those 50's do sound sweet....

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

haha I guess to some people small things are a big deal, and conversely bigger issues aren't a problem lol. Truth is you cant go wrong either way with these 2 pickup sets in particular

@steveindorset

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-D that's what I'm thinking!!....Hmm maybe a self build vintage strat for the 62's?🤔 I feel a project coming on...😆

I love the neck pickup on the fat 50's. They sound super excellent clean, thicc and full, but compared to the 62's, once you get some gain in there, the 62's take the cake. I have the 50's. I like the 50's on neck, clean with some reverb.

57/62's are the best sounding pickups again.

I always listen first through computer speakers and cel phone to see if I can notice a difference. Fat 50´s sounded brighter. I would stick to the 57 62´s.

57/62's are my absolute go to strat pups, beautifully balanced.

@Paul-D

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree, i think if you prefer other much hotter strat pickups your probably into something far more modern then a vintage sounding strat. Not that theres anything wrong with that of course 🤘

@derekjohnson5720

8 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D i usually put a 57/62 in the neck and middle for clean tones and little bit of break-up blues tones. For lead I like a Vintage noiseless in the bridge.

I prefer the Fat 50’s. It got narrower when it was bridge vs bridge, but there’s an airiness to the neck that I like better on a Fat 50.

57/62 they got everything!

@Paul-D

5 күн бұрын

I think so 😄

Fat 50’s both clean and dirty for me. I didn’t expect to prefer them over the 57/62,,,but I did everywhere.

Fat 50's for me, because 57/62's it sounds too bright for me on the tails. Also can't compare Maple to Rosewood. Rosewood always sound's brighter.

Appreciated the Dire Straits knod with sultan of swing

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

I try haha

It’s definitely the color of the guitar that makes it sound better 🎸

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, its faded alot more pink since this vid which i dont like 😅😅

Just bought CS Fat 50 s for a MIM 2015 Strat. I think they are even better than the stock American Ultras Noiseless P U ..The Loaded Pickguard for fat 50s cost me $369

Ever have a L Sensor set in 1 of these comparisons? I got a 93 deluxe plus Strat with the 3 color set and have always been happy with all the sounds. But it's also got a TBX tone for middle (s) and bridge (r).

@Paul-D

10 ай бұрын

No closest i got to L sensors was a video we did on EMG Dave Gilmour style set up

It seems quite similar to me... I have a performer hss stratocaster with rosewood fingerboard and I want to change it to sss and I'm between these two sets... which one do you recommend, what gauge of strings you use in the two stratocasters?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

They are very similar, I do prefer the 57/62 still but for sure its splitting hairs in this case. I use 9 - 46

I did the blind test on myself asking for someone to randomly choose one of them each time and guess what: I cannot tell which one is which. I don't know if you did it in your self, but it is very interesting how the look of the guitars change what we hear while seeing the video and we're sure that there are differences, but when the visual clue is hidden from us, the differences simply disappear. I strongly believe that the differences are much more about psychology than something human ears alone can really hear. The pickups have slightly different specs, but I really doubt that someone can tell the difference in a blind test.

@Paul-D

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree with these 2 sets in particular. You could definitely tell 2 completely different output pickups apart on a blind test id of said though

@renanbos

11 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D Yes, for sure. When the output is significantly different, such as, let's say CS69 and 57/62, the difference is clear. In the present case the output is very similar and things became harder.

More jangle and snap from the 57/62's. I may be biased as I have a set in my Player, lol. Great playing for the demos!

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

You right, It is SO close its mad but the SLIGHTLY lower output of the 57/62 allow for abit more 'information' to breath I feel. Good ear man! And nice choice for a player Strat upgrade too!

AHH man they both sound amazing I would be happy with either 🙂 so on form with your playing dude

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I might be imagining it, but i think the mim without the rosewood might have provided some extra chime. I am a big lover of rosewood fretboards though. Maybe i'm giving it too much weight. I liked both. What's important for me is that the bridge pickup gets hooked up to a tone pot.

@Paul-D

Ай бұрын

It can make a difference and i did swap the loaded guards later on - but the difference was absolutely tiny

@Paul-D

Ай бұрын

And totally agree on the bridge having tone control haha

@TheAmphibic

Ай бұрын

@@Paul-D Cheers mate!

57/62 for me but the Fat 50s were right there. I would love to hear this comparison after changing pickups and guitars. Put the 57/62 in the sunburst guitar and the fat 50s in the fiesta red one

@Paul-D

9 ай бұрын

I have since done exactly this but just not on film. The difference are very much the same just the other way round haha.

@mikepj1025

9 ай бұрын

@@Paul-D the 57/62 are what I play as well and I have yet to ding anything I would swap them out for. Not a very well known set overall.

@Paul-D

9 ай бұрын

Yeh theres plenty that are decent, and the fat 50s are really close but im the same, haven’t come across anything at any price point i would make my go to strat pickups over the 57/62 set.

I have tried extensively these two sets. The biggest difference imho is the bass that the Fat 50s have. If I'm going for strictly retro strat sounds then the 57/62 are fine. But for anything more than that I need that little bit of "extra" of the Fat 50s.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

yeh I would agree with that, especially if your someone who jumps between singles and hum buckers a lot.

Maple vs Rosewood the maple did brighten things up a bit where the rosewood being slightly a little mellower I guess you can only get a true comparison given everything being totally equal be nice to have a bassman or a deluxe reverb on hand in the room as well .mic placement can influence so much too...have to say perfect choice off sound samples though ☮️🌈🤔😊

@Paul-D

11 ай бұрын

Yeh its tough making comparisons with limitations haha. For what its worth though, I’ve since swapped the necks on these 2 guitars. And the 57/62 still sound super similar

@Lomoholga2

11 ай бұрын

Oh for gods sake the fretboard wood makes no difference c’mon lol

@hq72hotmale

11 ай бұрын

@@Lomoholga2 really ?

@Lomoholga2

11 ай бұрын

@@hq72hotmale yes. It’s 2023. These electric guitar myths are thankfully dying out mainly thanks to the internet. The wood type on electric guitars has zero influence on the sound coming out of the speakers, along with the finish. People hear with their eyes to a significant degree- sensation and perception are different things that influence on another.

Have you tried the Vintage 2 1961 Strat or the Pure Vintage ‘61 pickups ? I’d be interested to know your opinion. I have ‘57 and ‘62 AVRI Strats, and a V2 ‘61. The ‘57/62 pickups certainly have the edge but I still like the ‘61.

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

Ive tried the pure vintage 61 - nothing to complain about but i do prefer the 57/62 set still. Not tried a vintage 2 or the new mcready out of mexico yet.

The 57/62s sound slightly choked compared to the fat 50s. The fat 50s have a little more open/chimey sound. I have a set Fender Yosemite pickups in my MIM strat, I wonder how they sound compared to the fat 50s. They have a different sound because instead of being wax potted, they are shellac'd, with all flat pole pieces. All three pickups just sound more than their regular counterparts. The neck pickup is woodier and clearer, the middle is extra chimey, and the bridge (if you have the bridge tone mod), sounds like a weak PAF if you turn the tone down to about 5.5

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Ive tried those before on another vid but havent compared direct to the fat 50s. Its funny what some people hear as chime/open others hear as a slight shrill topend. For me of all the strat pickups ive shot out, on film or not these 2 were the closest overall

@jimmy5634

11 ай бұрын

They’re both good, each in its own way.

I forgot to ask, are the middle pickups on the '57/62s reverse wound as well?

@Paul-D

5 ай бұрын

No i dont think they are on that set. True to vintage spec.

For me 57/62. More clear, crisp dynamic.

Very close. I’d love to hear them with the necks swapped. I think that rosewood is taking the edge off.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

It is possible in all fairness, It was close enough for those things to start mattering more. Closest one yet by far

Wow they both sound amazing good!🎉❤ Think the Fat 50s are sound truely more fat and warm and the 57/62er more bright crisper with more definition. Think I would go with the 57/62er. Any custom caps or is this just default Fender wiring?

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

So the 57/62 set does have a set of CTS pots with PIO cap (forget value off hand now) and grigsby 5 way. The fat 50s is all totally stock barring the pups being swapped. So that will be making a difference tbf

@dee_zett

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-D thanks. Would be great if you can share the specs of the cap. 🙏🏼 I am really in love with those 57/62 now. I owned a vintera mod 3 years ago with vintage style 60s hot single coils. But in my opinion they sound so cold and not so cozy. I never had "this" warm strat tone, but I would like to have it with pleasure. Tried neither some tone caps as well, but I will. I dont know if this can uplift so much. 😂

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Yeh i filmed one of those and said the same about the pickups. They do sound better in E flat though weirdly.

@dee_zett

Жыл бұрын

Got my subscription now. 😂❤

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

Cheers and welcome 🤘

Too close to call on playback, but maybe more nuances come out in the room. If prices are similar, I think I'd be happy with either!

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

they really are that similar even in the room. by FAR the closet to the 57/62 yet.

Do you have any experience with the pv61 pickups? How might they compare to the 57/62 set?

@Paul-D

3 ай бұрын

I have since yeh - nothing to dislike about them really - but for me the 57/62 set are still my favourite. I never stop trying different ones but at this point a Stratocaster just sounds like that set of pickups to my ears haha.

If people stop listening with their eyes, there is NO DIFFERENCE. It's about, how you feel about your playing abilities, if you are satisfied, with what and how you can play. Anyway, there is always a good reason to have 2 strats ;) I listened to his video on good set of speakers, with eyes closed and heard no noticeable difference across. Then both neck pickups clean sounded 100% the same for me (if you can measure sound "similarity"). Great playing! I'm sure you would get the best of 15$ no name pickups as well ;)

@Paul-D

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man, and yeh there is verry little difference between these sets in person too. Ive even swapped the necks to be 100% certain the fingerboards aren’t doing anything - i wasn’t surprised when it made no difference haha.

@ericclefstad8112

6 ай бұрын

I’ve had the fat 50s in my strat for roughly 10 years. I closed my eyes and randomly picked a spot in the video. I could tell the difference between them, every single time. Now I have 10 years playing time on the fat 50s to get familiar, but there is definitely a distinct difference. I’m actually thinking of switching to 57/62s.

Do you or will you have a comparison between pure vintage 59 and these 57/62? I’ve owned the 59 and imo they beat my over priced mark Foley boutique pickups.

@Paul-D

Жыл бұрын

They are one of the very few sought after fender pups I haven't tried yet, Ive done countless comparisons off cam when I had my store and the 57/62s have been my favourite to date. Will make an effort to get hold of some pure 59s for sure.

57/62's in the neck, fat 50's in the middle and brdge.

For cleans, I tended to prefer the Fat 50s, though there wasn't much to separate the neck pickups on that. For crunchy tones, I preferred the 57/62s for every position except bridge, which is interesting. So for me, maybe a Fat 50 in the bridge, but 57/62s for middle and neck?

@Paul-D

Ай бұрын

That would be a sweet combination for sure. Fender should sell them that way save scratching around for 2 different sets haha

Different guitars, in this case mainly the different wood of the fretboard, influence the tone as much as the pickups!!!!!!

@Paul-D

Ай бұрын

It makes a difference but doesn’t make as much difference as the pickups by a long way. Ive done it soooo many times including swapping these over and the difference wasnt worth filming honestly.