If Fromsoft can't find time to add similar animations to other weapon classes, they can allow other classes to cancel the R2s into backstep since the follow-up to these flip animations are similar to the backstep follow-ups. It will still be preferable to have unique similar animations to all other classes of weapons, however, we will take canceling R2s into backsteps over not having anything at all any day. p.s. Elden Ring is Ashes clone confirmed! lol

@leaf_of_the_wind

2 жыл бұрын

Hey a fellow Ashes appreciator

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

He's quite literally THE original Ashes guy lol :D

@sukmanutzak9547

2 жыл бұрын

@WoodenPCGamerBoi30 nice bait troll. go play minecraft and shut the fuck up.

@wetnoodlex

2 жыл бұрын

@@leaf_of_the_wind What is Ashes? Remnant: From the Ashes? Or the 2018 game literally called Ashes?

@krishivshukla5557

2 жыл бұрын

@@wetnoodlex Probably a mod for one of the dark souls games

between this and making r2's do more poise damage, they've really done alot to make heavy attacks more viable all around, super happy about that

@cabellism

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the whole Blocking/retaliate/follow-up attack mechanic.... so looking forward to that with my Shield run.

@nickhoude21

2 жыл бұрын

Also just straight up more damage. I forget who, but from some guys testing, most fully charged R2s did about 2.5x the damage of a r1

@cabellism

2 жыл бұрын

i wonder who is going to do a "anime run" with the weapon arts only.

@zero0creativity

2 жыл бұрын

@Matúš Martinec consumable only run will be a pain lol

@NeroDeAngelo

2 жыл бұрын

@@cabellism "The Backlogs" did a Weapon Arts only run for Dark Souls 1 (yes, he only weapons that had weapon arts as Heavy Attacks) and "Baron's Castle" and "Plateau Peak" did the same for dark Souls 3, so I would say keep eyes on those channels maybe ;D

Can’t believe these attacks are actually possible to consistently use now

@Xer405

2 жыл бұрын

For realz moving the left thumbstick and r1ing at the same time to do this was tedious.

@KoalawithaBeanie

2 жыл бұрын

These look cool af

@ddmacc

2 жыл бұрын

Its pretty easy to pull off consistently in ds3 atleast on my ps4 controller

@ayayron8221

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xer405 true. It wouldn't have been so, if they just increased the timing window. To this day i'll have no idea behind the rationale of making the kick timing window so tight.

@jakautunut1027

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayayron8221 I think it was because you might accidentally kick when trying to move forward and attack. Still happened to me a few times. But I agree that the kick is very tedious

This was probably obvious to everyone else, but this technique only works for Thrusting Swords, Great Thrusting Swords, and Curved Swords. It cannot be performed with other weapon types, including Curved Greatswords.

@theendarkenedilluminatus4342

2 жыл бұрын

thank you, this is exactly what i was reading comments to discover.

@hamsterdoom360

2 жыл бұрын

@@theendarkenedilluminatus4342 Got you, fam. In fact, as toxic as this community can sometimes be, this sharing of knowledge is one of the things I love best about the SoulsBornKiroRing community. I like to think that From is intentionally obscure with their lore and mechanics if only to help bring the players together through messages boards and videos like this one.

@aidan4031

2 жыл бұрын

@@theendarkenedilluminatus4342 instead of reading comments, have you tried gitting gud?

@theendarkenedilluminatus4342

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidan4031 check my channel and find out for yourself. I do okay, but idk if i got gud yet.

@theendarkenedilluminatus4342

2 жыл бұрын

@@hamsterdoom360 They are excellent at creating worlds that are as confusing as they are immersive and rewarding. I'm better at other games because of the punishing yet rewarding style of these games.

The Ash of War: Kick is purchasable, as well. Sold by a Knight in northern Stormhill for 800 runes.

@ZBritt92

2 жыл бұрын

SMDH. Micro transactions these days...

@AnEnragedWhale

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZBritt92 modern gaming = L

@zacharyseales3775

2 жыл бұрын

Microtransactions use real world money. This is not a microtransaction.

@ZBritt92

2 жыл бұрын

@@zacharyseales3775 whoosh

@AnEnragedWhale

2 жыл бұрын

@@zacharyseales3775 joke . . . . your head

*Guy appeared out of nowhere* *Uploads a very well produced video* The kind of hero we need

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Highs009

2 жыл бұрын

Truly a chad.

@whiskizyo2067

2 жыл бұрын

but not the one we deserve

@Alexlinne88

2 жыл бұрын

Annnnd subbed.

@bronsoncarder2491

2 жыл бұрын

He's only got 1.5k subs... lets see if we can help this guy out a bit. He deserves it. Share this to your Soulsborne groups. I definitely will be.

wow this is really really cool, i love that they expanded the combat so much like poise, guard counter, horseback, powerstance, arts of war ect..

@cabellism

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the potion/elixer you can create and customize. And the crafting... the sleep arrow is going to be fucking nuts.

@johncrow5072

2 жыл бұрын

My only question, can you parry a guard counter? If yes it becomes can easy read if no, the meta will be transformed.

@walesjedi9217

2 жыл бұрын

@@johncrow5072 now consider this, we combine the retaliation and the backstep feint from one of the top comments to force that interaction for a followup while they're open. this isn't going to happen, but imagine if it could

@johncrow5072

2 жыл бұрын

@@walesjedi9217 …the ballet of death..

@robzs8388

2 жыл бұрын

@@johncrow5072 guard counters will literally not be shit in pvp though, way too slow and readable

great katanas, beast claws and perfumer bottles from the DLC work with this mechanic as well

I just learned this in 2024 lol

@juvenil6969

10 күн бұрын

does this still work? i've literally never seen it anywhere except this video?

@SoulXsins

7 күн бұрын

@@juvenil6969 yeah only works on curved swords I tried it as soon as I saw the vid

Omg that's amazing, I would have never expected non glitched ways to feint attacks in a souls game. I love it!

This is crazy, I wonder how many other hidden mechanics this game has... even veteran Souls players didn't find this.

@nauro9187

2 жыл бұрын

i never even knew that you can backflip in ds3

@tangiblemammal5273

2 жыл бұрын

@@nauro9187 lol me neither

@robzs8388

2 жыл бұрын

@@nauro9187 you never knew that a curved sword pullback r1 did a flip instead of a kick?

@ukaznipsigururuk8685

2 жыл бұрын

@@tangiblemammal5273 not just ds3, ds1 also has backflip with curved sword

@crestfallenwarrior5719

2 жыл бұрын

Shouldve named yourself Sushiha

A tip for the feint, the attack itself counts as a backstep, so you can follow up with a backstep attack from it without having to press backstep again

@sparktite

2 жыл бұрын

I dont get what your saying. Is there a specific backstep attack? Because I don't see one. I just see that I can do a normal attack out of a backstep. Just like how you can do an attack standing still. Whats the benefit of doing the feint into a backstep? Its not like if this feint didn't have a backstep you wouldn't be able to attack right?

@wolfkermek

2 жыл бұрын

While you're backstepping, hit attack, and you should do something similar to your running attacks. It's by no means the same as just regularly hitting r1, the feint is an extra attack for a total of 2, the feinting attack itself initiating the backstep, and the 2nd is the backstep attack that every weapon has

@clydedavis3623

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparktite backstep into an r1 is a totally different attack.

@mahmud7645

2 жыл бұрын

@Socucius Ergalla Probably

If you use this in conjunction with the “Frozen Needle” rapier you can rapid fire ice!

@weadon44

2 жыл бұрын

U sir are a genius

One of the things I love that I’m noticing is that Elden Ring is encouraging you to fight LIKE a boss, with the new mechanics encouraging a variation of light and heavy attacks, more use of jumping and jump attacks in combat, the counter system, and now a fucking feint backflip, as if they couldn’t be any more clear. No more Chosen Ones spamming R1 attacks. I’m excited to see someone master the game’s mechanics and move around like the Abyss Watchers.

@preddes6522

2 жыл бұрын

That was introduced in sekiro. Glad theyre bringing it into souls

@walalon8719

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a really nice gameplay addition that would make ton of noise when Elden Ring comes up

@crysosisback7115

2 жыл бұрын

We'll see about the meta once it launched ... As a wise man once said... You can be fancy all you want, if you're flat on your ass, you still lost

@darukan

2 жыл бұрын

that was just cringe

@idrissb9742

2 жыл бұрын

Played 12/13 hours now, it definitely feels this way. From software really just combined all they learned in this, aggresive play is super rewarding and i feel like an absolute menace I LOVE IT

Shows up Uploads 1 video Get 1.7 million views Leaves What a chad

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

I have more cooking ;) love your videos btw!

Literally in plates armor and this lad does an air aerial after a full swing, what a legend

Honestly, I think I might overwhelmed by everything in elden ring. It’s kinda crazy.

Wow, this is such a neat mechanic! This will add another layer of complexity to the combat, which is great!

Elden ring is the first introduction in the souls series and I'm hooked. There is just so much to do and figure out about the game, that isn't upfront or explained, it's both exciting and frustrating. I haven't looked up so many KZread videos about a game to find out what to do or what I could have missed till now. I'm learning new things every day that keep bring me back to the game or logging to get back and play.

Keep uploading, your style and straight to the point videos would be amazing. Even if your future videos are already known inputs tactics or builds your video style will attract attention, thanks for bringing this knowledge to light

The animation is so fluid. The swing leading into the backflip doesn't look janky or too fast or anything. No matter when you do it, it looks amazing.

@amysteriousviewer3772

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. A lot of people complained that they were just „reusing“ DS3 animations when it seems that they really just used them as a baseline and added more polish and fluidity.

@noxinabox3506

2 жыл бұрын

@@amysteriousviewer3772 Yeah, agreed. I hope it's similar for enemies that carry over. No worries on the reskin, but spruce up the animations and add a new move or two.

What a fantastic insight!!!!

I think it's extremely safe to say in about a year from now we're going to be seeing some extremely gnarly pvp fights.

@petercottantail7850

2 жыл бұрын

Well this didn't age well

@luismelendez5667

2 жыл бұрын

@@petercottantail7850 hasnt even started aging yet

@youngbreadwinner2780

2 жыл бұрын

Rivers of High blood pressure

@0nionBruh.

2 жыл бұрын

All Ive been seeing is moonveil, Rob, stars of ruin spams

@Barryschitpeas42069

Жыл бұрын

9 months later: can confirm, in maybe a few thousand PvP encounters, never seen this once. Admittedly it is quite hard to see through all of the blood

I just seen this video and wow I just learned something new. Thank you for this!

God Dammit I don’t want people to know this ;-; I want to look cool infront my friend on the 1st day

Wow, awesome discovery. I've always loved that animation but it always seemed practically useless. Might have to try out a curved sword this time around 🤔

@ScottJund

2 жыл бұрын

make fun of my carthus again bitch

@FOES-YT

2 жыл бұрын

Surprised to see you here Peeve :)

@dantheanimator5072

2 жыл бұрын

I just went thru all the small, short and crazy blades I have and tested them all :( I have nothing good to report back to you souls lol

@PackLeader-1990

2 жыл бұрын

Far from useless in DS3

I had to come back to this video and just say thank you all of the tips and tricks videos that are out there and nobody that I've seen has talked about this yet I still to this day haven't seen most of the major KZreadrs talk about this yet but this little trick this one little trick right here helped me get through more than half of the game underleveled and under equipped so thank you sir!!

Just so you know, you can add kick as a weapon art to any weapon from a trader

@1riqoispliskin

2 жыл бұрын

i couldve sworn that i had weapons with the kick ability

@alexparker5127

2 жыл бұрын

@@1riqoispliskin some get it naturally. In particular crossbows seem to get it a lot.

Hopefully they bring back feints for all the weapons like they had in DS2. Being able to cancel the startup of an attack into a backstep to bait the opponent is one of the things that made DS2 pvp the best

This is so cool. I'm definitely going to experiment with this when ER is finally out. The dream would be a fist weapon that scales (bare hands do not) and has the kick art, so I can enjoy damage, kicks and backflips all at once.

@enricorossi5584

2 жыл бұрын

Dude immagine if they put the bone fists back in ER, the game would quickly become a Martial arts Movie XD

@satincartoon2213

2 жыл бұрын

@@enricorossi5584 Nothing would make me happier, bone fists are my overall favorite weapon from any DS game, just wish they didn't do so little damage

@Bennieboy918

2 жыл бұрын

@@enricorossi5584 hadouken

@lordsnow7854

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly the wolverine claws, they inflict bleed as well, I’d love to see a build with that lol

I knew I did some kind of backstep attack with the rapier that one time! I couldn't figure out how did it until now lol. Thanks!

I appreciate that this vid WASN'T 10 minutes long! Short and to the point, fantastic!

Oh wow, I completely missed this. Going to dig through every moveset in the game again to see if it pops up elsewhere. Thanks

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

I might have some info on that actually, dm me at Orphokos#5230 on Discord if interested

@StrayKurtis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kosorm I tested it with all of the unique curved sword and rapier movesets, it works with them all 👍

Legendary discovery! Instant sub btw. Clear comms, great vid.

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hey man, thank you for the tip! Stuff like this makes this game even more amazing

thats an amazing discovery! thank you for sharing, I haven't seen this from any of my usual sources. you just earned a new sub :D

This change further emphasizes elden ring's focus on the importance of r2's in combat and also by extension emphasizes the importance of breaking and maintaining posture

The mixup game is real with this POG. Thanks for sharing this with us Can't wait for ER

Thank you for the information I plan to use this knowledge for future pvps keep up the good work

On PC you need to hold shift, then left click (hold it too) and then press space. :)

@EliteAgario

2 жыл бұрын

doesnt work for me no matter how I try. I tried it with different weapons also but nothing happens

0:56 They actually featured this new feint backflip in the trailer. There's a scene where a character using the "Warrior" class is wielding a curved greatsword and he does a similar "feint backflip" like you do.

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

I think that was a weapon art actually. It looks somewhat different

@DeltafangEX

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kosorm Agreed. Looks similar to the WA of the Curved Wolf Greatsword (name escapes me atm) in DS3.

@ThatDarkAbyss

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeltafangEX I dunno it looks like he runs in, does a charged R2, feints, and then uses a weapon art that closes distance for the finish

@doorjpeg

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatDarkAbyss it’s probably the ability for the bloodhound curved sword

YO WHAAAAAAT !? That’s an amazing find good stuff

@vultureman3311

2 жыл бұрын

This legit makes charged r2s safe. I hope other weapon classes have something similar

Fun fact for the DLC: This works for beastclaws too

Great video, i will be sharing this idea to friends. Bravo!

Elden Flip: Scholar of the First Swoosh.

This video deserves so much more views. It's always disappointing that big youtubers often look over these small but valuable mechanics present in the game. Not blaming them because they do need to make their videos as shiny as possible to attract wider audience. Either way I really like these kind of videos. Will you be making more of these focusing on small details/mechanics?

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And yes i plan to do so!

@dawson3776

2 жыл бұрын

Idt they didn't show it because they want to cater to a wide audience, this has literally slipped by unnoticed. NOBODY knew about this.

@jamesgrose510

2 жыл бұрын

FromSoftware does not usually mention mechanics like these. Sure, they'll mention kicking in Dark Souls, but they won't tell you that curved swords and thrusting swords don't do that in the tutorial messages, let alone from other NPCs. No mention of grab escapes, Lloyd's Talismans to incap mimics. Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

@JoeyCentral

2 жыл бұрын

Cuz they want to focus on them parties brah! Make those highlight reels BRAH!

@tabbycrumch3062

2 жыл бұрын

probably because this is only useful in PvP, I guess. i dont feel like people are at that point yet, still just exploring the game itself

Thats really cool,I've shared the video to my group of xbox friends.Thanks for this information!

Amazing! Thank you for sharing this.

Damn, it looks so fancy

What do the other weapons do with this input? Can't imagine greatswords etc. back flipping

@dawson3776

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the kick, or the quick step we've seen

@Bennieboy918

2 жыл бұрын

Stomp?

@Bennieboy918

2 жыл бұрын

Or push

@h.plovecat2798

2 жыл бұрын

I think they do nothing. as of now I understand only fast curved swords are able to do it.

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

Rapiers too

Straight to the point with brand new information. Bravo. thanks brother

this is really dope i love it man thanks

FEINT-ABLE HEAVIES IS THE ONE THING I WANTED FROM ELDEN RING OH SO BADLY. Thanks for the vid, insane how it's gone mostly unnoticed. Like the ending of the vid too, lul

Oh damn, that's sick. I wonder if this feint has i-frames to them?

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

No s but a ton of poise

@MatthewManney

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kosorm This is huuuge for backstabs! Gonna be fun :)

@MatthewManney

2 жыл бұрын

If they fix them in the day 1 patch ofc.

@MatthewManney

2 жыл бұрын

@Kheops IV Smells like ptsd to me lmao. Don't worry ill be too busy doing my first run as a level 1 to be worried about wooping your ass with or without backstabs. It adds depth but you clearly only know the surface game.

@fisheryboi835

2 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewManney backstab fishing is literally the most boring thing in a souls game, you have a game with varied weapon types and movesets for each but you'd rather spin around someone and hope they don't know how to counter strafe

1 video, super informative, high quality, no ba, straight to the point, 2 millions well deserved views

Thanks for this video seriously!! Did this the other day on accident and was trying to figure out what I did

Amazing! Just wanted to say, you could also feint/cancel attacks in Sekiro. In fights against other sword wielding enemies like Genichiro and Owl, you could cancel your attacks within a certain time by pressing the block/parry button. The enemy would react to the attack and block as well. It didn't really offer any advantage though. Or at least none that I could exploit

So did you test this with other weapons as well? I’m curious if this is limited to the scimitar or if other weapons have different flips and attacks.

@Kosorm

2 жыл бұрын

Only fast curved sword for now

@Luinta

2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that Katana at least does not have a backflip feint. Tried after finding this video. Oh well, I'll just have to sate my weeb soul with dual Uchigatana for now.

@barkerbarks2537

2 жыл бұрын

@@Luinta Noooo, no feint for katana :(

@dantheanimator5072

2 жыл бұрын

@@barkerbarks2537 I never used it but I’m still sad. Best part about dark souls is literally facing off against every warrior the world knows about Looks like ninjas need to keep a curved in their back pocket

@SherrifOfNottingham

2 жыл бұрын

Just like the previous games, thrusting swords also have their backstep Sadly if the "kick" was a kick in previous games for your weapon, you're stuck committing to the attack.

Jeez, awesome video dude

I did this once by accident and never knew how to do it again, thanks for explaining!

This is pretty useful for wing of astel. It counts has a curved sword ith a bonkers aoe attack with magic properties

i thought i'd be seeing a return of r2 cancels from ds2, but this is interesting to. hope to see it used among all the weapon types instead of just curved swords

I knew it! Couldn't forgive out what buttons but thanks for discovering it.

Congratulations on a great first vid!

It's fairly mid, but the weapon that gets the most out of this tech by a longshot is Frozen Needle, the rapier you get from beating a really obnoxious boss under an illusory floor in Kingsrealm Ruins. It shoots a *zero FP ranged attack* when you use the R2 at a slightly longer range than the Moonveil WA. If you feint out of charging an R2 with Frozen Needle, it _still fires the projectile_ for uncharged R2 damage.

@ghostderazgriz

2 жыл бұрын

Repeated faint strikes also fire needles faster than uncharged R2 attacks. This could be useful against foes that have short ranged strikes or slow heavy strikes, but not so effective against casters or long range ashes of war.

Seems really nice for when you mess up the timing of a charged R2.

Its been 2 months and yes i did not notice until now thank you!

I am thoroughly impressed sir. Excellent work

Do other weapons have a feint? This is interesting for pvp. Reminds of the Champions Ashes mod as well.

Based discovery

Excellent video man

Yo! Thanks for the find dude

I bet there are gonna be some unique weapons that do something special when using this mechanic

This adds some depth to the execution of combat animations/moves. I love it

Great video! Subbed!

I remember accidentally doing this and not knowing how and thinking I was crazy

Inb4 this channel hits 75 subs 😎🤙

It's certainly pretty interesting. Not sure this beats out how powerful shields will be without a reasonable shield break mechanic, but we'll have to see.

@__bepis____bepis__308

2 жыл бұрын

I hope the shields take more damage from R2’s, to further emphasize using them in pvp and such, just glad everything seems to get a use this time around though

@monsieurdorgat6864

2 жыл бұрын

@@__bepis____bepis__308 They'll almost certainly do more stamina damage - such was the case in DS3 - the question is "will it be enough?" On the bright side, the old tactic of circle-stabbing doesn't seem to work in PvP. So the only payoff to turtling behind a shield forever is not taking damage. But any shield-penetrating AoW or capabilities will be important if you ever hope to squeeze a kill out of a frantically turtling scrub.

this is some gamer savagery good on you for being the guy to put it out there

Hell yeah my dude. Nice catch

and it isnt even a glitch!? This changes everything..

Staying far, far away from pvp but I can see this being pretty damn useful against pretty much anything, especially if it has i-frames or high poise.

Thanks for this. I did this by accident and freaked out. Never found out how to replicate it. Thanks again!

I didn't discover this but I did wonder that even certain weapons doesn't give this quick direction jump animation. Huge thx to you and 👍 for the first clip like it seems.

I would absolutely LOVE it if they make you able to feint out of a charging attack on UGS to maybe deliver a quick, low damage knee/shoulder tackle to mix up windows where backstab fishers and or dagger/SW users try to go in between your swings. I have high hopes for elden ring being an intense, and unique experience.

@recu1

2 жыл бұрын

wgahahgahahahahahaha

@SpyroL33t

2 жыл бұрын

@@recu1 icon and laugh checks out

@recu1

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpyroL33t no buts no cuts no coconuts

whoa! that rules!

wow this is SO USEFUL, thank you! i've found the added emphasis on charged R2 attacks in this game to be really frustrating because they're so useful but so hard to time correctly. this will make my life so much easier.

I am too late to know this... nice to finally find them out here. thanks

I'm confused? This video is too informative, where's the "like favorite subscribe please for the love of god" mentality? What website is this

Omg I can't live without the kick!! Im serious! I loved the kick especially in DS3, it was so powerful! Guard break so easy in 1-2 kicks was my go to. Im glad we got a guard counter though but I really am dissapointed if the kick is gone.

@Omega77232

2 жыл бұрын

there is still a kick but its a weapon art for bare fist

@CantTreadOnMe

2 жыл бұрын

@@Omega77232 Yeah well I will absolutely never bare fist so it may as well not exist. 😂

Very cool. Thanks!

Shows up out of nowhere. Elaborates. Leaves. What a chad.

Warrior gang rise up! I'm excited for the swordplay available to curved sword users!

@gilgamesh1148

2 жыл бұрын

Time to rule over the pvp

Aside from the curved swords, are the other weapon types have feints?

@deken5206

2 жыл бұрын

All thrusting swords have it including rapiers and heavy rapiers

“But what does this mean for pvp?” Fully expected the next sentence to be “absolutely nothing, haha moonveil night&flame rotten breath go brrrr”

AHA! I've done it a couple times by accident, so I knew it was possible, but i could never figure out what the input was! Thanks for this.

you handsome af orph

Good. I hated the old kick. I absolutely never used it on purpose. Every single time I used it was on accident and I couldn't even replicate it on purpose. This seems a lot more useful.

@mkv2718

2 жыл бұрын

the old kick was great for shield users. i got so many ripostes by kicking people’s shields out of the way. i’ll miss the kick 😔

Subbed. Great vid!

please keep going! I this was a great video!