Perfectly safe, IMHO. If you bypassed the thermal fuse completely I would be concerned but you put a very close fuse in it and I'd be ok using it. Cheers Vince from the States!

After blowing so many electric blankets controllers over the years, I think the main lesson here is to never use the highest heat setting! Great explanation and clear precise video 👍Top man!

Ahhh so pleased the mug got there safely! 🙂

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kip, nice looking mug. In daily use now, I get slightly jealous when I see my wife drinking out of your mug and not a MMV mug!!!! 🤣🤣

To be honest, I think your repair is superior workmanship to what came from the factory. I'd probably use it. :D

Hey my mate Vince! I just fixed a broken Bluetooth speaker thanks to your videos. Thank you so much for the great content. Cheers

I’ve actually lived through an american version of an electric blanket fire and it had no thermal safety so I do believe I would use this version without any worries. Thank for the content!

Erring on the side of caution is never a bad idea, but having a thermal protection device very near the value of the original should be just fine. The tolerance for these devices may be well within a few degrees anyway.

@MeMelon4u

2 жыл бұрын

That was not the point,it has to be the exact same cause it wouldn't be able to fit in between those resistors which is essential for it to work properly.

@n6vcw

2 жыл бұрын

@@MeMelon4u - How so (serious question, BTW)? IOW, why does it have to fit between them, rather than nestled atop them?

@MeMelon4u

2 жыл бұрын

@@n6vcw the fuse "trips" when the resistors get to a certain temperature and for it to be accurate it would have to be nestled in between them,this is by no means what I have thought about and said with my knowledge,it is mentioned in the video,while he was going through the internet he read this and mentioned it. watch from 14:40 he mentions it from there.

i really enjoy watching your videos I've learned so much from you and people like you it has helped me out fixing things every now and then thank you!!

I really appreciate that, even after deciding the fix wasn't worth the risk, you decide to continue as a proof of concept. Dealing with Mains AC can be quite dangerous and should never be taken slightly.

@cherlynecedie6730

2 жыл бұрын

Yep 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👩🏿‍🦳 it’s very dangerous

This is extremely interesting as I actually have one of these on my bed right now! However it does work as intended, if it was faulty, I'd send it straight back to Argos for a replacement as I wouldn't recommend even attempting any repair on such a product, as you will most rightly point out to us.

Thank you so much, I was also repairing two electric blankets as was following along with you and I nearly bought that ebay French replacment or the RS componants thermal resister, phew, good find by you. Needless to say I have subscribed lol.

You had to mention coffee machines, Vince. I started twitching! Totally agree with not fixing these... not worth the risk on such a low-value item, even though a lower temperature fuse of good quality would almost certainly be better than the factory ones! Still not worth it for peace of mind. Great video, as always 👍

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

🤣👍

@maximusmax4557

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, it's not the cost to replace or fix the thing, it's about how much of it ends up in the landfill. At least in my mind...

Was just thinking, where's Vince?

Good idea to leave the fuse off in the end, I would hate to have something bad happen because of it. Also nice job with the temperature gauge. All around nice tea break fixes.

I use thermal fuses on my 3D printers and they always blow at the stated temp (I buy a extra one and test it) regardless of size and thickness I think it is OK to fix.

Very generous of you there Kip Hakes and Michael S.. good lads

I can understand the safety concerns. But if you look at it logically and take a fuse that blows faster than the one from the manufacturer maybe about 5 degrees less to the one that the manufacturer has installed, there should be no problems of course only if they have the same size and are as good as possible sandwiched between the resistors.

@bloodmines

2 жыл бұрын

yes.. you stole words from my mouth Hledf 🤣... ...its save to say that if use lower temperature than original it will cut faster but those volt and amp must to be same as original never bigger... but got to say I not electrical so..... but if it is mine i will trust those lower temperature ones.. but i understand that you will be careful 😃

@agnag1

2 жыл бұрын

plus you can / should(?) put thermal paste on it to improve heat transfer from the (over)heating resistors to the fuse. Also the expressed safety concerns about a proper fuse replacement very much sounded like the "safety and security" argument often used against right to repair. Bonus: There does not appear to be a transformer, so if you tear the blanket and the heating wires you can get a shock with 240V. Does not sound very safe either.

@crackone2three

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, i dont think the chinese guys throwing them together make it better then using a lower Temp Value Fuse :D

@robin9342

2 жыл бұрын

@@agnag1 Thermal paste will dry out and will then likely insulate the thermal fuse from the resistors.

Incredible amount of information in this video thanks mate

Nice one vice. I enjoy watching your video's. I've also been repairing a few things myself over on my channel.

I think it would be fine from a safety point, because wouldn't most thermal fuses blow long before the blanket overheats to dangerous levels anyway, or did I miss the point?

It won't go in fire if you put 104 deg. one they probably have 10 deg. tolerance. You can remove it completely. Those thermal fuses are there if you run it folded, to kill the power and mostly play a role like waranty timer (use it few times before waranty goes of and throw it for no reason), no other function, i remove them everytime i see them in something, even if they are not blown. My grand mother had electrical blanket around from 1984 and i fix it 5-6 times (the weak spot was cable near blanket) over the course of 25 years and it never had such a fuse (it is probably still working) - just a 3 step switch and the heater. Such blanket can't go in fire because the heater is calculated for around 50 deg. max on mains, if something is shorted - well you have normal fuse for that. Thermal fuses are joke timing invention to make you throw the thing and pay extra money when waranty goes off - no other usefull purpose.

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks technixbul 👍👍

I honestly don't blame you for deciding not to go ahead with the repair, I'd probably come to the same decision. Heat stuff getting them working though just for the learning experience. Michael sent me and Joey one of those signs too, they're amazing. He said he uses old fence panels (I think)

@chrisreynolds6331

2 жыл бұрын

I never repair any mains voltage equipment for people nowadays it's just not worth the risk. USB voltages only on my projects now (5V) with a certified PSU.

@TheCod3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisreynolds6331 yeah I don't blame you. I personally fix consoles mainly but I won't repair power supplies

@kriswillems5661

2 жыл бұрын

I think repairing switching power supplies is pretty safe compared to repairing electric blankets. I've fixed many switching power supplies, but some have failed again later, because the cause is not always a single cap or transistor, usually multiple caps are to blame, and if you don't replace them all, it might fail later on. But electric blankets - no thanks. You can probably light a cotton bed sheet with just a 5 W resistor, if the wattage is located in a small place.

Interesting video on what can be a sensitive subject because it is all too easy to circumvent the safety side without being able to really test the repair once completed. The bit that made me wonder was (assuming it was an exactly matched fuse swap) then how important is the thermal bond between those resistors and the fuse? I remember seeing some scrap blankets with what looked like silicone gunk bedding the fuse between the resistors but not on others. Seems like there could be a lot of attention needed to exactly match the manufacturers safety methodology... but they are not going to share that as we know already. Many thx for the video and a chance to think about them again. 😀👍

Many Thanks, Very well explained.

Well Vince I really enjoyed that. Didn't solve my electric throw problem, continuity was present EVERYWHERE including that thermal fuse, but it was still fascinating to watch. Nicely done. Meanwhile I can watch my controller flashing E2 until 12th night when I put all the Chistmas lights away! Orange clashes anyway...

Very informative video. Thanks

Another great video Vince . I don’t trust electric blanket even though I’m sure your not meant to sleep with them on. Just doesn’t seem right having a 240v heating element under combustable bedding. It’s a cleaver safety device having the thermal fuse between the 2 resistors and by their temperature monitors the power the blankey :) is drawing. Normally when a fuse or thermal fuse blows it’s for a reason , heating or drawing more power than it was intended to , as you said it may have had the wrong blanket plugged into the controller ( shame the sockets aren’t keyed to stop this happening) or it could have been a fault with the element inside the blanket. I think you’ve done the right thing in showing the video and explaining why you reversed the fix and returned it to an unworking state. My daughters GHD straighteners broke again due to the thermal fuse , I done a lot of research into the replacement fuse and brought it from a reputable website and not off eBay 240v and damp hair could end badly

@TC-tn9tb

2 жыл бұрын

it's not a 240v heating element, the 240v is converted to 20v dc which you could hardly feel if it touch you.

@dnb5661

Жыл бұрын

​​​​​@@TC-tn9tbPhone lines and PoE are 48VDC, and those rarely kill anyone.

I was so please to find your video but I do agree it’s not worth the risk for such a cheap item which is guaranteed for three years, at least it is through silent night. The issue with these products is that the mat is susceptible to folding which I suspect is what causes the fuse to blow. Not worth the risk of fixing but thanks for releasing the video and convincing me not to fix it. 👍

Hello Vince! I have a suggestion for the next fix video /Ebay fix video and that be a for faulty 3D printer. it would be awesome to see your methods/techniques of fixing a broken one due to the electronics and mechanical involvement. Keep up the great content mate!

Great video. Safety first.

Great tea break fix

I don't trust any electric blanket never used one and never will to much horror stories , lying on 220V NO thank you, Great video 👍👍👍👍👍

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks AR 👍👍

Two for one. Nice Tea Break fix. The blanket is to dangerous to use I agree but you knew the problem before.. magic Vince?^^ Nice to see the thermal thing to work again which haven't in the previous video where you fixed the shower and flooded your bathroom 😉. Nice wooden plate you got btw. The mug is also cool.

Great stuff Vince, and spot on conclussion regards not attempting to replace the thermal fuse, unless you can get an exact replacement. Because people sleep wrapped / covered in these - it's just far far too much of a risk to attempt to repair one. Even if I had one of these where I replaced with the exact part, I am not sure I would be able to sleep at night lol. It's as you say - is the fuse making the same physical connection to the resistors, is it able to couple the temperature correctly (a fake may look identical but might not absorb the heat the same). You could fit a 5 degree less fuse and find the fuse has a 10 degree less transfer rate because of its package (sort of thing a cheap brand might suffer).

I did this repair - no need to get EXACTLY the same rated heat fuse, in my opinion (only!). I got a fuse that was something close from the bay of e, unsoldered the old one, put in the new one, all good. Remember to disassemble carefully, don't lose the spring and ball bearing that makes the slider swith 'notchy'!

I bought three of those blankets from Morrisons, one double and two singles. The first double wasn’t working at all so I took it back and got another one which did seem to work. Both the singles worked and are still working I believe. However, after prep six months and very little use the double blanket has failed, and it would seem from watching a video that there is a general weakness in the manufacturing of this blanket. It is a silent night blanket, just as you shown it in the same sort of package, but it’s made by a different company under license made in China

Just found your channel looking for info on fixing my electric blanket (Biddeford). Nice clear video! I noted that the higher temperature fuse had the white heat-transfer paste, which makes sense because that fuse needs to get more heat faster to pop at 102C vs the 76C fuse for the same fault condition (i.e. heat flux from those capacitors). I like the safety cautious approach as well, but why does the amperage of the thermal fuse matter? You found one onlilne for 80C but at 10A vs 2A. The thermal fuse would not be popping off due to high current through itself, but due to high current through the neighboring resistors (causing heat). So why would the 10A vs 2A rating matter for a *thermal* fuse? I'll be watching your other videos now. Thanks for your channel!

good job mate.

A better idea would be a microcomputer controlled electric blanket with a sensor that sends the temperature back to the controller which compares the wanted temperature with the actual temperature and uses that to control the temperature and won't let it go any higher what about it Vince.

Well I'm quite sure, this is what as happened to mine, so annoying that it's not a fixable problem, they are no longer as cheap now to replace, with the current sky high electric, gas prices, thanks for the vid.

The single and double Silentnight blankets both have a 3 heat setting slide controller. The double draws a higher power consumption on each of the 3 settings than the single. Make sure to match the controller's rated output to the same on the blanket wattage label as they are both visually similar units. The blanket is machine washable with the cable unclipped from the blanket connector.

Mains powered electric blankets are scary to me, what's wrong with using smaller voltage dc and being safe

I call it blanky. Brave lil toaster 💜

This is so strange. I was literally thinking yesterday while my girlfriend was using her electric blanket that only seems to be hot on one side "I wonder if anyone has ever done repairs on an electric blanket". I am pleasantly shocked to see this haha!

You're totally right . If I'm asked about electric blankets i normally say " check the fuse in the plug and if it's not that , bin it " They're not that expensive these days anyway, not worth the risk.

@E-Kat

Жыл бұрын

My one is an electric throw and it was £90! Had it for two years only

Hi, very informative. Did you measure the values of the resistors. ?

A higher amp rating for a thermal fuse shouldn't matter. It's not designed to protect against overcurrent, so it's not a situation where a higher amp rating would mean that the device could draw too much power, and the device already has a separate fuse to protect against overcurrent anyway correct? It seems like you can find thermal fuses with the right temperature rating that are 10A, and those should be just fine if I'm not mistaken. Disclaimer, I'm not an electronics engineer, I have some limited knowledge as a hobbyist, but it seems like common sense to me.

All my silentnight electric blankets fail within a few uses too.

oh no you had too mush tea now you accidently fixed a thermomiter. wait thats a good thing. 2 fixes = double enjoyment from the video

It looks like it uses the two resistors to heat the thermal fuse so the longer it is turned on the hotter the resistors get.

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, looks that way. Cheers Scott, hope you keeping well 👍👍

Hi Vince, can i ask why your not putting out as many videos recently? Love the channel and re-watch many of your Retro vids. Hope alls well, regards Chris

I get a loud snap sound when plug in right joycon (not the animation sound) but I get less sound when plug in left joycon. Both works properly and never dropped. Can somebody tell why that happens? (Nintendo switch)

@virajdrolia5238

2 жыл бұрын

Pls somebody tell why that happens

I've ended up with my one failing and was able to find the correct 76°c fuse from a seller in Poland to the UK, having replaced it, the control unit, heated up and failed the same.

The Fix It King Vince is back, great to see another video buddy, Vince, what would you say has been the most troubling thing to fix out of all your fix it videos?, all the best buddy, take care 👍

Nice one

I always thought that these were bed warmers, supposed to turn them off before getting in bed?

i would use those thermal fuses their so close to the original that they would disconnect the power well before a fire could happen, i'm not even convinced that those blankets are capable of bursting into flames, they only use 100w max and that's spread evenly over the whole blanket.

I would like to see a video of the thermal fuze disconnecting. Is it a visible event?

I'm wondering has someone used the single remote on a double and it has blown, or on a folded blanket as you say ? I would have repaired it with a very close thermal cut out, but put the blanket on for say 5-10 mins and then switch off unplug and get into bed. In other words dont leave unattended. I remember when I first got married we would get in bed and lift our legs and use a hair drier under the blankets to warm the bed, as we didnt have an electric blanket or hot water bottles.

A very good Tuesday to you all from Wellington Somerset

What purpose the ball bearing serve? Was it put back or discarded? It must have been there for a reason?

Hi Vince quick question would you be up to fixing an hearing aid loop ,let us know I think it's right up your street , will pay you of course

does the ball bearing sit on top of the spring?

Nice to see it fixed by someone with a conscience!

My silent night heated blanket stopped working for no reason, went and brought a new one, worked fine, now I try to turn it on tonight and it's stopped working again?

A couple of years ago I had an electric blanket nearly catch on fire while I was sleeping. A nasty odor of burning plastic woke me up and the next second I saw smoke coming from the controller unit. I didn't bother taking it apart to see what went wrong though...

On my pre electronic engineers course in the 80s. We had numerous electric blankets all with the same problem of blown fuses. The controllers were all secured by break off head security screws so we had to drill them and use screw extracts to gain access. The thermal fuses were all ok. It was the power fuses that had blown. We replaced them all. Safety tested them. Then they were all sent to the labs for further checks before they were given back.

What if you put it on the other side of the breadboard?

I wonder how the thermal fuse tripped though. Could it be that the user placed the controller under the covers, right against the heater wires? Or an external heat source like a nearby radiator? At 230V and with a resitor of 1.8k a current of 0.125A flows through the resistor. Power dissipation is about 28W. If the heater wires are the same resistance The current would half and power about 7W. in a confined space that's quite a lot. I wonder at what temerature the resistor runsat during normal operation. I thought that's what you were about to test next with the thermometer. If the thermal fuse is already close to the tripping point, it wouldn't take much to do so. Even a weak short would quickly trip it.

@kriswillems5661

2 жыл бұрын

The 1.8k resistors are not in series with the blanket. They can't handle that much wattage. I think there is a NTC resistor in the blanket which is in series with the resistors. That way the temperature of the resistors depends on the temperature in the blanket.

@imqqmi

2 жыл бұрын

@@kriswillems5661 I see, thanks for clarifying!

It would be great if there where cooling blankets for summer

HHH is an indication Hi or an open thermal wire reading. Yes I would fix it as a difference of just a few degrees for the fuse should not be a problem it will still open on over heating.

I used to sell these things many years ago. They are under blankets and usually not designed to be powered up while laying on it. You preheat the bed and turn it off and unplug before getting into bed. I would imagine they would be not the most comfortable things to lay on with the wires running the length of it.

@maximusmax4557

2 жыл бұрын

I use an electric blanket as a mattress pad, and have been for months. It's on all night long. I shut it off in the morning, so it's not on when I'm not in bed (or at home).

@E-Kat

Жыл бұрын

I can't feel the wires at all as they're imbedded in the thick fabric .

What about using Wires Adhesive instead of soldering as you are more likely to cause the fuse to go away do to excess heat.

My grandma used to have electric blankets. I remember she would just use them to warm the beds up as it got pretty cold in the bedrooms during winter (north of France, no central heating and bad insulation) but she would remove them right before my sister and I went to bed. I didn't know you could leave them on all night long and as a matter of fact I wouldn't be comfortable sleeping with those because of fire hazard.

@unitedfools3493

2 жыл бұрын

It's probably the "safest" place for a fire to start inside the house while you are asleep.

Yes it is a common problem with Silent Night electric blankets, Keep buying these Silent Night electric blankets from Amazon but keep breaking usually 30 days after the guarantee runs out, buy 8 of them from Amazon but all break in few months, costing me a fortune keep throwing these electric blankets away. Suffer from nerve damage and joint problems because of diabetes, have to run electric blanket 24/7 because otherwise wouldn't be able to move or get out of bed without running electric blanket all the time, really would be amazing if you could fix them instead of keep buying a new one every few months. P.S unbranded electric blankets only last about a week.

I have the TT-FF one. It lights up but blanket doesn't warm up. What gives??

the potty stuff would enhance heat transfer and so, a higher temperature fuse was appropiate.70ºC on a loose contact with the resistors... means the resistors themselves are probably 100 ....

Had a Botrong Blankie with the same fault,better to buy new than try to replace the component.

Great little fix but quiet right it would not be safe the resistors and the thermal cut off are matched .

Just seen you're not recommending repair lol, thank you though!

97° would be fine as it's 5° lower than spec and would self sacrifice, if it were able to reach higher temperatures.

Title should be "Faulty Electric Blanket/Temperature Probe" I've been tricked into watching a temperature probe be fixed. Something I swore I would never watch again!

l'd fix and use it, a few degrees difference is no problem. But some people may try this repair and use a far different value thermal resistor and create a real danger.

Would I fix it? Absolutely! If the original fuse is a 76C, 80C is only a few degrees more! How much hotter can that thing get?!

Hi mate your welcome mate it’s done on my laser machine

@Mymatevince

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one Michael, it is in pride of place in my new set up (upcoming video) 👍👍👍

On my double blanket one (UK) it says 240v- 75watt

to be honest, these are supposed to be used to warm a bed before getting into it. I have mined set up via alexa, and 15 mins before bed, it comes on, warms my bed whilst i get ready for bed, then it is turned off, whilst I have been home to stay safe, then I get into bed warm, and electricity to it is off.

Ah Kip hakes 👏🏼 enjoy his channel

Hey everyone stay blessed 🙌 😇 🙏

Someone asked me to look at their slow cooker. After tracing the fault to a thermal fuse I refused to fix it. I didn't want to be responsible for their house burning down or or wiping out the family out in their sleep if it caught fire during the night. It's just not worth the risk.

@davidvanderklauw

Жыл бұрын

Yes. There is still plenty of room in our landfill tips.

apparently the xbox kinect 2.0 (xbox one) has a similar problem the heat sensor gives up the ghost and it bootloops

My silentnight heated blanket did work, but not the heated indicator light is in, but the blanket is cold!!!!!

I go to sleep with a electric under blanket and over blanket on all night on low , , keeps me cosy all night

The thermal fuses look to be ceramic body's and if you could find the same rating it most likely would be fine but I'd only do it for my self no one else as well just for peace of mind

no dont use it if the fuse has blown they work on a very crude principle that the ni-chrome heating wire is wound around the common wire with an insulating plastic that melts at a certain temperature in case there is a fault or hot spot, this then decreases the heater resistance and heats the resistors in the control unit and opens the thermal fuse.

Mate i don't know why my ps3 doesn't on , no light please can you help

Do you ever look at the freegle sites for the odd non working item that needs a repair ! in your area !

Smart move, not worth losing any sleep over a $25 item. Keep up the great videos

@maximusmax4557

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, throw it straight into the landfill. No reason to sweat that, right? I mean, landfills never fill up! LOL

Hate these with a passion my mum and dad had 1 when I 3. They had to chuck a smoldering double mattress out the window! So lucky they were not burnt!

same issue in mine. thermal fuse blown