Fatherhood, Oxford Union and Ukraine | Konstantin Kisin
John joins Konstantin Kisin in his London studio for a third on-camera conversation. They discuss how Konstantin's experience as a new father has changed his outlook on life, relationships and the importance of family and parenthood, as well as his recent viral Oxford Union speech. Konstantin also provides his thoughts on the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, with provocative predictions on how the war might end.
Konstantin Kisin is a writer, social commentator, co-host of TRIGGERnometry and comedian. He is a regular on British and American TV and radio shows including Question Time, Good Morning Britain, BBC Breakfast, Daily Politics, LBC Cross Question, Tucker Carlson, the Megyn Kelly Show and many others.
Konstantin has written for publications including the Daily Telegraph, the Spectator, Tablet Magazine, Quillette, Standpoint as well as his first book, An Immigrant’s Love Letter to the West.
#uk #politics #ukraine
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00:00 Intro
00:42 Introducing Konstantin Kisin
01:46 Fatherhood
03:09 Parenting in the age of social media
04:38 The difference between mum and dad
05:57 How women have been brainwashed
10:47 The depopulation bomb
12:13 Modern dating and the problems with dating apps
15:43 The link between housing and conservatism
19:24 The west? A mixed bag
21:06 Adults are afraid of children
26:44 Thomas Sowell - "There are no solutions, there are only trade-offs"
30:00 Why you should express your opinions
34:15 Employers are scared of their employees
35:16 Elon Musk, Bill Maher and journalists running out of questions
38:08 Is curiosity declining?
39:32 America and the Culture War
43:38 Free speech only gets us so far
46:25 Why we need a positive narrative
48:49 Russia-Ukraine war
52:49 How fatherhood has changed Kisin
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Thank you for having me again, John!
@FUToob
Жыл бұрын
All of you talkers think that extending the "Invitation" is so easy. You sit down together and you talk, and you talk some more, and in the meantime another 1,000,000 graduate from university or high school, having been indoctrinated by "woke" ideology. You talk, talk, talk, and you make some money off it here and there. Then you schedule another talk where you talk to like-minded people (the other side won't talk) and it's rinse and repeat. Meanwhile, the carpenters, plumbers, farmers, doctors, and others go to work each day. They fill their days with work, and they just don't have time and energy to sit down after a 10 hour day and create that "discussion outline" that you use for your talk. They have food to cook, lawns to tend to, children to look after. Good luck talking to all your friends and posting your videos to YT. They're coming for you, and you don't have time to convince all those people who refuse to talk to you to change their ways. They are already burning down my city. Keep up the grift.
@stevendownes7508
Жыл бұрын
Please have John on Triggernometry, to be questioned by the double act
@triggerpod
Жыл бұрын
@@stevendownes7508 Watch this space!
@Jules-Was-an-AnCap
Жыл бұрын
KK actually dips into the swamp of toxic KZread comments, kewl bruh
@Jules-Was-an-AnCap
Жыл бұрын
@@triggerpod Also pls have on Louise Perry and James Lindsay to debate/discuss the recent NatCon and Postliberal critique of Liberalism, I like Perry but I'm a Classical Liberal like Lindsay.
Kudos to John for being a great interviewer. I was a police officer for 24 years and have learned the keys to a great interview is asking the right questions.
The world needs more men like these two.
@andythompson2009
11 ай бұрын
The world needs less men... ? So... let's pay it forward...
@williamwallace5707
11 ай бұрын
. . .
@jaytoppo1670
9 ай бұрын
you're obviously not man enough then.... insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, these two are nothing more than influencers for an overall agenda that seems to keep repeating itself...
Being a father is the greatest blessing a man can have.
@adama365
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha. Really. Tell that to all the fathers who ended up on the streets (divorce, custody battles.....) or in the grave as a result of having children. You and EVERY other person like you never want to think past the tip of your noses when it comes to breeding. I'm also sure it's a blessing to have all of your MALE children be taken by force from you and thrown into wars and come back in pieces in body bags. The Ukraine now is just ONE example. During the Iraq/Iran war many families lost ALL of their male children (one family lost 4) because they had to "serve their country" during the 9 year slaughter.... but this has been happening throughout history.
@richardbeal2451
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely and completely agree.
@jeanbrown8295
11 ай бұрын
It’s a wonderful thing to be a parent
@Chris-i0i0i0
11 ай бұрын
2nd only to a free portion of chips, drowned in vinegar.
@gingerbill128
11 ай бұрын
@@Chris-i0i0i0 I am more cosmopolitan than you , i drown mine in curry sauce.
Mr. Konstatin Kisin is a formidable man. 👋👋👋
“The future is no longer an abstraction, he has a face and he has a name.” Again, this is so profound. I heard it first on Unherd.
@hengineer
Жыл бұрын
it succinctly described how I felt having my son, and it IS profound.
@Chablar89
11 ай бұрын
My life changed completely when I had children. It unlocked parts of me and depths of my character and compassion I never knew existed. Incredibly profound statement he made.
Konstantin's brilliant. I've been listening to him since Triggernometry first launched and immediately I clocked his brilliance and potential. He said very little during those early interviews but he was just so visibly engaged and asking the most perfectly timed, intelligent questions. He's an absolute pleasure to listen to. I'm glad he's got the self-propelling character for this socio-political commentary game. He and Frances are a terrific double team and both so quick witted and funny. I've laughed out loud at their unexpectedly funny quips many times. Thanks John for getting the best out of really fascinating, strong personalities. That's a very special skill and gift too and I hope people acknowledge it in YOU. I certainly do.
@CJ-ft9yo
7 ай бұрын
Well said
So much respect and admiration to Konstantin Kisin ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Each time John and Konstantin get together the conversation is so interesting and valuable.
Love your conversations John, you are a credit to your country and need more like you.
@miyojewoltsnasonth2159
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
So many topics Konstanin discussed hit home for me. Brilliant guy.🎉
@SuperRistopaha
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the whole time how can that amount of brilliance and clarity be in the capacity of one guy! Amazing!
I love the parenthood bit, because I'm in a fairly similiar position, first child at 36, 5 months old now. A few years ago I would complain that I never learned to play drums, or I never developed mountain biking skills, or that I never learned to code as much as I'd like to, because those things would provide some sense of accomplishment. Now accomplishment has a face and a name, and I KNOW that raising my daughter to be a good person is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I'll ever do, and I'm grateful and happy for having her.
@renati1445
Жыл бұрын
Believe me, it's easier to learn how to play drums and develop mountain bike skills when you have your children next to you and you teach them doing those stuff.
@swashbukk
Жыл бұрын
One further advice: If you are ever in doubt that in raising your daughter you did it alright: make another child. :-D
@je-freenorman7787
Жыл бұрын
I suggest you look at a map. and get a brain
@je-freenorman7787
Жыл бұрын
oh, did you look at the map yet? ll WHY DO YOU NEED A MASTER???????????
@je-freenorman7787
Жыл бұрын
You could do a simple wikipedia search and learn the Ukraine has been ruled by Russian Royalty for the last 1500 years. BORING. Your Degree MEANS NOTHING !!!!!!
I very much admire John Anderson's willingness, indeed his eagerness, to continue having intelligent and meaningful conversations at an age in which he could easily retreat to a narrow and selfish ease. Thank you!
This conversation is itself a perfect instructional guide for how to conduct one’s thoughts and intentions in this current society we live in. Isn’t that a fantastic thing?!
Konstantin has become a very wise man: marriage and fatherhood have been the making of him.
@jeffreywick4057
Жыл бұрын
Fatherhood is the making of us all. Our children are the beneficiaries.
@anthonyreed480
Жыл бұрын
Until he gets triggered by anyone who doesn't hold his exact views. One cm to the right of Kisin and he's straight back on the censorship bandwagon.
@ronin7531
Жыл бұрын
He's still too young/early to comprehend fatherhood, lots will change in his understanding in his fatherhood journey
I like John Anderson. I like Konstantin Kisin. I like this podcast. Thank you both for this ❤
What a pleasure to be able to listen to this conversation. Honest thoughtful analysis seems to be in short supply, almost missing in action, fortunately not on your channel John. Well done.
@raoul1234567
Жыл бұрын
Amazing discussion. I think it’d be more accurate to say there are no political solutions to problems. Political solutions always have unintended consequences. Which means they’re not solutions by definition, but answers. We are conditioned to mistake answers for solutions by a system that wants us dependant upon it. Unintended consequences arise because of top down political answers to what our ground up personal problems. The solution lies with the individual taking responsibility for their own lives.
@janetteharness1693
Жыл бұрын
@@raoul1234567 agree, absolutely.
Thank you gentlemen for a great conversation. Again!
KK and Francis are top guys !
Wow very interesting conversation! Three comments: 1) As a 28 year-old American grad student, I can definitely confirm that we do not have an robust "exchange of ideas" in public life, so I'm glad Kisin offered his opinion on the matter. There is a "war of slogans" in our legislatures, in our classrooms, and on our streets. Unfortunately it's a special treat to meet someone who disagrees with you radically, but can both give your their opinion in a measured manner, while also hearing you out. 2) While I don't want to be too self-congratulatory, I did appreciate Kisin's comments about the mentality of daring in America. I think that is true, and I'm kind of proud of it: here you can have a grand idea and throw yourself at it, and you're likely to find people who at least find it interesting, if not actually wanting to help you make it happen. 3) Great point about free speech being a "defensive value." Liberty is not flourishing; liberty is FOR THE SAKE of flourishing, by means of being allowed to pursue what is genuinely good. Thank you for this conversation, it really got me thinking!
An excellent conversation gentleman. Thank you John.
These conversations are so fantastic! Cannot recommend enough!
John, you are fantastic guy. Please keep going; not every one contacts you, but you are a man of style, a man who has compassion, a man with manners and vision. John you come across as a man full of common sense. Thanks 😊
@richardfox2865
Жыл бұрын
KK... just keep going ❤
Konstantin i am greek living in Bulgaria and i find your thought so refreshing and needed. We are living in a madness but above all in uk especially and usa ,in a society where a generation is being regressed to eternal childhood, demanding instant gratification. I am a retired NHS mental health professional and see this clearly. Thank you for your voice. You come from a country that i know well and have russian friends. Russia's intellectuals talked all the way to the gulags ,still talking!! Never offered solutions . Solzhenitsyn understanding this well. I read Turgenev's brilliant novel ,Fathers and Sons ,when i was a teenager because being a perverse teen ,i felt even then that the current zeitgeist was not headed in a good direction. Russisn literature has much to say. Thank you for yr voice and congratulations for being a father and to you and your wife and your son ,every happiness. God bless.
I cant believe this is the first I have heard of Konstatin. Brilliant conversation and good to hear these perspectives.
Two thoughtful men.
I like that part about resilience. I went through difficult times myself, and while it was hard for me back then, I feel that now I''m better equipped to handle challenges that I face in my life.
Brilliant interview! John does a great job of both being quiet so KK can talk and giving little nuggets of gold on the way. Job well done you both, thanks for that👍🏼
Common sense in these crazy times. Thank you, John and Konstantin.🙏🇺🇸🇦🇺🇬🇧Congratulations on being a dad KK!🤗
Outstanding. A very necessary conversation
Amazing chat. Thanks gentlemen.
Thank you both for who you and for your intellectual honesty. Being a good person is a great guide to better places.
Personal is essential. I am a grandmother trying to clean up the mess if my parenting. Be a dad or mother and husband and wife first
John’s humanity showing through in the line of questioning around being a new father. Two beautiful souls. I am proud to say that my son comes for a hug if he thinks nobody’s looking. My daughter doesn’t care who sees. I am blessed. ❤ The housing issue is going to solve itself quite soon now so hang in there you young people and don’t buy just yet but save steadily.
Great conversation. Konstantin and John have observed the situation facing young men and women accurately and it must be addressed.
Best conversation I’ve heard & admired in last 15 years! So respectful!
@Wanamaker1946
11 ай бұрын
Check out Dr. Jordan Peterson interviewing Robert Kennedy Jr. It’s excellent.
Konstantin kisin would make a great PM or at very least a strong advisor to any future PM. A great moral compass and a well informed, balanced view of the world and society.
Glad I came across this, interesting talks. Thank you!
We need this conversation badly. Kudos to both men.
Konstantin’s book was one of the best books I read in 2022. I intend to read it again at some point.
every time i hear kissin talk it’s more and more food for thought and one revelation after another !!
Love Konstantin Francis and triggerometry - really great interviewers, accessible, balanced, humorous and grounded - well done !
Great interview. A big Thank you to both!
Another brilliant and engaging conversation, thank you Gentlemen for all you do.
Thank you for an outstanding conversation 👏 😊.
Great interview, it makes you wonder whether the social changes and the way we live our lives have been changed on purpose.
@carnivorewisdom
11 ай бұрын
Sounds about right. #seektruth #carnivorewisdom
We kept our kids off phones until 15, and off social media until 18. It did not limit them at all, and they have social skills many of their peers lack.
Thank-you gentlemen, enjoyed your talk. Refreshing hearing calm, logical open conversation.
@John Anderson - Your interviews are excellent. Always enjoy your discussions with Konstantin Kisin.
Awesome discussion. Very curious about Kisin childhood & family life. John do another interview:)
Nikolai is adorable. Wishing you and your beautiful family health and happiness. ❤❤❤
Wonderful. Two intelligent men, articulating thoughtful opinions. But the best part was that no one was saying “ we have to leave it there” after two minutes. Profound comment at the end, about being the best example you can be for your children!
Love Konstantin and Trigga. He hits the nail on the head through out, Thomas Sowell is correct there are no solutions.....It's hard to comprehend, especially to technocrats. John must have been shopping while in London nice Anderson Tartan 🙂
Many thanks, men. Carry on!
Children find their limits with their dad. They learn how rough you can be and yet still be play, they learn how to make people laugh, I truly believe that the role of father plays in the bringing up of his child is as important or perhaps even more important than the role of the mother.
@SMacCuUladh
Жыл бұрын
they are two sides of the same coin. We learn different things from both, whether we're male or female.
@Ruprecttt
Жыл бұрын
As a dad I can confirm this. Though I will say that the mom is equally important, just for different reasons. I think it's easy to think dads might be more important because the societal trend shows the problems of a lack of father's more and more every day it seems.
@reginaford8575
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!
@kp6215
Жыл бұрын
Yes equal with mother but sadly my grandfather didn't teach his son who then didn't teach the grandson who was born when his mother was her 40's with the males completely selfish that the last male thankfully never married because every woman within two months discovered that fact and left my brother who abused his younger sister taking all she had earned saved because he acted immortally when his mother died at 35 with mistake by our mother who forgot to change title to house believed her son wouldn't steal half from his sister BUT he did. Fault of males for selfishness. They leave thus child poverty rampant because their responsibility for impregnating the female then leaves.
@graceismine1111
Жыл бұрын
I think putting moms and dads in new boxes is no better than in old boxes. Kids get their characters from both their parents and to know where the lines are or even guess not only disrespects the other parent, it disrespects both. As a 54 year old parent of two teen boys, whose mom had me at 39 and whose father was born in 1920, I had the benefit of multi-generational parenting. As a coach, I've helped people recognize how we all oscillate through our parents' (caregivers) qualities all our lives. Our limits are a mix of our parents body, mind and emotions.
I feel so proud that my dad and mum, now in thier eighties spoke no differently regards kids, family and parenting as kk did. I am the youngest of six and have many many nieces and nephews as well great nieces and nephews, which I can confidently say are not taken in by the current woke narrative 😊 and that's down my parents still being the best they can be... Both grew up in poor working class homes in middle England. Thank you kk x
Thank you for having Konstantine on your show John, he has an excellent track record particularly his Oxford Union debate and he has a lot of good things to say. He is worth listening to. He is a voice of reason and common sense ! 💗
On the sad state of journalism I was reminded of a comment made by Kim Beazley MP (Australia) to paraphrase: ‘in my youth the Media was represented by the cream of the working class, now its represented by the dregs of the Middle class’
Thank you both for this conversation,great! The tempting Aspekt of dividing society reminded me of the antike saying: divide and conquer!
It is not just young people, what about the senior individual. Many of those have difficulty finding friends, new friends. Loneliness for the senior individual is a very serious issue.
Two modern day great speakers, that see the world & western civilization in particular decline. Can listen to them. Konstantin is right you do your bit in helping to stop this rot ,by engaging people and yes I find most people agree ,but are afraid to speak out !
Konstantin needs to form a party, his message of you need to accept some loss in order to get the stuff you need is a message that will resonate with the general public
Brilliant
Great interview John he is a very interesting person who has seen the best and worst of life.
Really enjoyed this conversation, and totally agree that fatherhood changes you for the better. Fatherhood certainly gave me a kinder nature and future perspective. Which brings me to your comments about climate change - that whatever we do in the western world will only make 1 percent global difference. I agree, but wish you had taken it further. You would never tell your kids that their help at home doesn't make much difference, because you know it is only the beginning. I'm all for preserving the best of western civilization, and love this channel for it, but we can't bury the fact that we have brutalized our environment and need to act on the change we want at every level. We cant stop at 1 percent, but we definitely have to start there.
It's revitalizing to hear two sane people.
Learned more in this interview than 5 years at university or whole seasons of Netflix shows
Waiting to see baby Kisin debating ideologues at Oxford Union ✊
Two of my very very very favourite people. I keep wishing John was Prime Minister of Canada with Konstantin succeeding him in a few years. Konstantin, I hadn't thought about eventually children from a single-child family will likely not have any aunts and uncles.
@kathynightingale3435
Жыл бұрын
Sorry -we need John back here in Australia so you can’t have him as Canada’s PM 😂🇦🇺
Excellent. Only recently discovered John's channel here on You Tube and really like these intelligent interviews. If only the mainstream media were like this. Konstantin is an engaging speaker, loved his comments about the poor standard of journalism and the BBC interviewer who ran out of questions to ask Elon Musk. It has to be remembered that the BBC only ever advertises most jobs in the very left wing Guardian newspaper and will never recruit anyone with right of centre views. Some former BBC employees have spoken about the left wing bias and wokeness and it dates back many years. ITV and SKY are going the same way. Poor educational standards going back several decades now is also having an effect on standards in journalism and many other professions. Many people lack even a basic knowledge of their own country's history or indeed world history. For many people it's all about instant self-gratification.
How funking crazy is the world when a comedian is required to tell people how messed up things are and it not be a joke.
Great interview! I’d like to hear more from those now living in Russia! What do they desire
Thank you for interesting conversation😊
Housing in my neighborhood is the same as it was in the 1950's. The relationship between the price of goods and services has remained relatively constant to a certain degree. The base price of a new pickup truck is about the same in relationship to the cost of the new home as it was in the early 70's. It's the job market that's changed not the price of goods. That and there are way more people that have almost no skills at all. I got my first home in 1986 when I was 31 years old but I paid it off by the time I was 50. My dad managed to afford a wife (that never had an outside job) and three children. I never could have afforded that unless the fact I tried was motivating enough to make more money. There is nothing that can be done about the price of housing. That's like saying we have to DO SOMETHING about the economy. DO SOMETHING about the weather or about anything else that Konstantin already said there is no cure for. We just have to adapt. These problems have existed for "ever" and always will.
Go, dad👍
Great interview
Brilliant!!!
Great talk
Another excellent interview.
This was such a good interview.
KEEP GOING!
Great stuff lads!!!
When there's good news, you hear a loud "Mum". Whenever there's a problem it's always "Dad!. That's very brief of life with my two daughters.
Well done both.
I truly believe a mother is essential in the home. Today I met my PA, physician's assistant. She was kind and caring, helpful in small but significant ways, highly intelligent and knowledgeable of her medical specialty. I left feeling so much better, I had significant interaction with a quality individual. But what about motherhood? Does she have time for me, and for her children? This is the dilemma.
Super dooper 👍
John, with all due respect, you are the late Leslie Nielsen doppelganger, aren't you? I enjoy your interview very, very much.
This is, hands down, the best conversation I have heard in 5 years. Thank you so much John Anderson.
I believe that this man's effectiveness in what he's trying to convey is due to his intelligence, memory, organizational skills and moral center for the betterment of all! Most people on this planet could care less about how the other people do things or believe in. They just want to live their lives as best as they can and be able to be kind to others. They're political leaders, on the other hand, claim to speak for all of us in the name of progress. Leave us be! The people are fine and we will fix what needs to be fixed as we go along!
I am watching this and feeling very sad,I am old,and I remember my childhood,we had a large extended family ,and at that time we lived quite close.we had great family get together s and we always put family first.But I can,t see that for my grandchildren and it makes me sad
It’s amazing to me how many of these “problems” that are being talked about here are so well addressed by the precepts in God’s word and people being active and involved in a good church….But I guess we’ve grown too smart for that.
Like the conversation only there is more to the Russia/Ukraine conflict. KK has left out a lot of the narrative as there is fault across the board.
Pardon my selfishness, but I wish there was a new JA pod everyday. It’s just that good. 😊
Feeding the Curious; nicely worded KK. atb
I think that along with the idea that perseverance is a path to finding meaning in one’s life; in order for that meaning to mean something, one must also love and be loved. I think you touched on it in a way through the discussion of the loneliness pandemic that may already be upon us. So, to me, the opportunity to love and be loved in the pursuit of meaning through perseverance is our best chance to slowly move the aircraft carrier back toward the prevailing winds.
14:40 that's why there is a trend right now in social media called about the Traditional Wife/Woman. Of course, critics destroyed because that's is going back to the 50's American Trap Wife...but, in fact it's a reflexion of the reality. There are people that want to build a family
The start of this video reminds me of Thomas Sowell's quote: "There are no solutions. There are only trades-offs."
The key to every door is sacrifice.
The housing issue is not getting addressed enough!!!!!! It's just insane now
A good listen. The only paradoxically odd thing was Kisin's criticism of men for checking out of society and seeking a "fake" sense of accomplishment and then in the next sentence describing in detail how young people cannot even climb the property ladder and enter into society meaningfully. This shaming technique regarding men stands out.