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Cosmopolitan magazine, Tess Holliday and whether we all should panic about obesity.
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  • @katschoolwork
    @katschoolwork5 жыл бұрын

    When a queen slams us with truth and calls out the system despite being featured in a high profile publication. TALK ABOUT BEING REAL.

  • @klundyates1

    @klundyates1

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @charlottesreadsthings211
    @charlottesreadsthings2115 жыл бұрын

    The thing is no matter what you do whether it's drink alcohol/ smoke or you're skinny or overweight it doesn't mean you're automatically saying "hey I think everyone should do this because I am." Simply existing does not equate with that. Tess Holliday may have built her brand on being the weight she is but at no point has she ever said "hey everyone should be like me." And I think that's the point people are missing when they say she is glorifying a "bad" thing. Also with the waves she's been making in the modelling world I'm surprised she hasn't had a magazine cover sooner.

  • @CraigSimmonds
    @CraigSimmonds5 жыл бұрын

    my GOD you're so good. The queen of video essays

  • @klundyates1

    @klundyates1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes yes 👸👸👸

  • @eggsta6

    @eggsta6

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don’t use the lords name in vain.

  • @peplar3797

    @peplar3797

    5 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @fallenslave6684

    @fallenslave6684

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dont use the name of God as a curse word.

  • @jaedyn225
    @jaedyn2255 жыл бұрын

    as a young person i would like to say that i literally don't care abt her weight if i am influenced​ by anything, its by a persons actions

  • @ArielBissett
    @ArielBissett5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Enjoyed listening to your thoughts xx

  • @Maria-wg3yu
    @Maria-wg3yu5 жыл бұрын

    Here's my response to the idea that this cover promotes obesity to young women/girls: No thin person is going to see this and start altering their eating and exercise habits in order to achieve this body. The very predominant beauty standard in our culture is still thin/fit/slim-curvy bodies. What is cover COULD do is give comfort, positivity and acceptance to people who are already in larger bodies, which IS healthy because the shame stress and stigma of living in a larger body is more detrimental to people's health than the fat they carry (there are a bunch of studies that show this, follow Linda Bacon on social media). Furthermore, if blasting the thin ideal and shaming people into weight loss worked, no one would be overweight, because that's what we've been dealing with our whole lives. Fat people exist. Lets accept it and move on to spending our energy on more important things.

  • @taramok6056

    @taramok6056

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maria I love your response! You basically summed up all my thoughts on this

  • @ameliorated

    @ameliorated

    5 жыл бұрын

    id say there isnt just thin people and big people seeing the cover.... theres people on the border lines trying hard to get control of their health while being told its fine to let it go

  • @jdramaandkdramalover

    @jdramaandkdramalover

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think Tess Holiday looks beautiful in the photo. The thing is that she is very obese and that is not healthy. If you are overweight some it's okay,but not to the point it's very unhealthy. We should promote body positivity! Obese people are beautiful but at the same time not healthy. She is beautiful but not healthy. We should promote body positivity and being healthy!

  • @qmulus1

    @qmulus1

    5 жыл бұрын

    People are overweight because they are addicted to food. It’s not healthy, and it’s not attractive.

  • @burymedeep-be7dm

    @burymedeep-be7dm

    5 жыл бұрын

    America and the UK have a terrible obesity epidemic that is beginning to cause life expectancies and quality of life to drop. We dont need this promoted. Besides, it looks horrendous.

  • @omaimal-baghdadi3640
    @omaimal-baghdadi36405 жыл бұрын

    I can watch you talk for hours about social issues and anything else tbh and would never get board of you. #queenleena

  • @jenniferclapham6539

    @jenniferclapham6539

    5 жыл бұрын

    Umaym Al-Baghdadi honestly SAME

  • @lucie8765
    @lucie87655 жыл бұрын

    I think you've said 'Tess Holloway' so many times now that Tess Holliday should consider changing her last name (Great vid by the way, I always enjoy great feminist content that helps me be more articulate about issues that matter to me!)

  • @leenanorms

    @leenanorms

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lucie Fleury lol sorry I was focusing on the feminism and fucked up the details

  • @lucie8765

    @lucie8765

    5 жыл бұрын

    haha I live right next to it so that was the first thing I thought about!

  • @amyg8176
    @amyg81765 жыл бұрын

    My favorite part was your seamless transition between Holloway and Holliday lmao My second favorite part was all of it. I knew I’d fully agree with you but I had no idea you’d bring up so many additional points I hadn’t thought of. So good!

  • @Spargle22
    @Spargle225 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video! I really enjoyed hearing your take on this and loved your arguments and views on the controversy!

  • @clarakatharina7285
    @clarakatharina72855 жыл бұрын

    this is such an amazing video, as always, but I was also very entertained by your many variations when saying tess‘ name 😂

  • @anyawillowfan
    @anyawillowfan5 жыл бұрын

    I am obese and personally I struggle with this cover, as I struggle with every magazine cover I've seen. It is not healthy to be so large, it is also not healthy to be as thin as typical models seem to be. I understand they are trying to be controversial etc, but I do wish they showed regular healthy people so that the majority of people can actually relate to. Why can they only show either very thin or very large people? That said, I like your point about how we should focus on people who have achieved something and have something to say. There are many people included in the magazine who fill those categories yet they choose out of all those regular people those who are famous (usually models and actors) to put on the front cover. Perhaps that's why people buy them, because of recognizing the person on the cover, though personally I'd rather see people in other sectors such as business women, etc, who I don't recognize. The issue isn't so much whether they are fat or thin, but they are impossible standards to reach (whether that be fame or wealth) which does lead us to feel the only way we can be as good as them is to look like them. Basically if they included every size on the cover it wouldn't bother me whether occasionally there was a thin person or a far person, but currently I don't even buy magazines because the covers never represent average people (which probably means my opinion is moot as I'm no longer someone who spends my money on magazines).

  • @anyawillowfan

    @anyawillowfan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Lil Dominicana Yes, being trapped at home does tend to lead to having time on ones hand. But I don't see how you could guess that from me spending 10 minutes to write a comment.

  • @taroufish

    @taroufish

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg this is exactly how I feel and why I dislike this cover so much. Why can’t they just depict average women? Why only anorexic or morbidly obese? They’re just trading one toxic extreme for another.

  • @heyhaileyjoy
    @heyhaileyjoy5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your contribution to this discussion, Leena! I've seen so many horrible comments around Tess Holiday's cover along the lines of "but her health!" Which always gets to me. I'm relatively thin but I have multiple chronic illnesses that prevent me from working and living a normal life. None of us can know from looking at someone what their health is like, and furthermore health isn't a prerequisite for self-love, dignity, privacy, and respect from others. Thanks again for the points you've made, I hope they encourage some people to rethink their assumptions.

  • @lauralejeune6733

    @lauralejeune6733

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right, but all you’re saying there is that some illnesses are invisible. Other illnesses are very visible. We cannot assume that all thin people are healthy, no, but we know for a fact that morbidly obese people are at risk. If they’re not unwell now, they will be soon. It’s like saying smokers are healthy because they don’t have lung cancer (yet.) Being concerned about health shouldn’t be so controversial or offensive. “But her health” is far from a ‘horrible’ comment, its a kind one.

  • @heyhaileyjoy

    @heyhaileyjoy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lauralejeune6733 I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree that it is a kind comment. I never said that people who are obese don't have health concerns, but those concerns are between them, their doctor, and the people they choose to share them with. We don't know what people's health journeys have been like just from looking at them, so unless someone has asked for input I think it's rude to assume that we need to say anything. Generally adults know their own health concerns and are doing what they want to do about it. I feel like assuming you know more about the health of someone you don't know than they do is really patronizing. And finally, just because someone has health problems doesn't mean that they can't celebrate and embrace their bodies. Health isn't a prerequisite for body positivity.

  • @klundyates1
    @klundyates15 жыл бұрын

    Leena I LOVE you, thank you SO much for everything you do. Honestly, every single thing. When this debate first started I thought I was on the "it's a bad example" side, I knew I shouldn't be, but I couldn't work out what was wrong. As soon as I saw your video I knew you'd be able to explain it in such an amazing, balanced, non-judgmental, non preachy way. Thank you, I know and hope you'll go far. Xx

  • @phoebeh4250
    @phoebeh42505 жыл бұрын

    never realised contactless ISN'T ACTUALLY CONTACTLESS. * *CLICKBAITED* * amazing video!!

  • @hanzib31
    @hanzib315 жыл бұрын

    NCDs such as cardiovascular diseases, diabetes etc are the biggest killers now. Weight does play a big role in those things. But so does lack of exercise, alcohol, smoking etc. It's not as simple as just weight, although it is a major risk factor. But, if we're promoting health, we should focus of mental health too. We shouldn't be promoting a certain body type at all. We should be promoting how to take care of our bodies and minds in a healthy and safe way. I would go so far as to say we shouldn't be saying "big is beautiful" or "skinny is beautiful" or anything in between, and should be helping people accept that we don't have to be perfect or look a certain way, but caring for your body and mind can only improve your experience of life. If people weren't so pressured health wouldn't be much less of an issue. Edit: I re-read this and hope it didn't come across as me being against tess. I'm not. I'm just against the whole industry of pushing "this or that is beautiful". It changes every other minute and its not important. How about we all focus on eating our greens, getting out in nature and taking time for our bodies and minds, without putting pressure on what they should look like. 😊

  • @strangeangel235

    @strangeangel235

    5 жыл бұрын

    hanzb there are so many variables to what makes people over weight. Thyroid issues, inate or caused by too over use of aspirin for pain and meds that have a side effect of weight gain--it is not just about eating too much. pain ,antidepress

  • @hanzib31

    @hanzib31

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@strangeangel235 I am aware of that. I never said it was about eating too much.

  • @ItsBexMcgex
    @ItsBexMcgex5 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you discussed this! It's so common for people to have a strong single opinion that gets in the way of the whole picture i.e. 'body positivity is good so she should be in the magazine' or 'obesity is unhealthy so this is completely bad' etc. I really enjoyed hearing you discuss so many different view points and pros and cons and really dig into the reasons behind the article being published in the first place. Definitely going to use some of these points to articulate myself in the future!

  • @jwinkies3011
    @jwinkies30115 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant essay, Leena. Definitely gave me something to think about

  • @natassa9297
    @natassa92975 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you explain things tbh

  • @singwhenhappy
    @singwhenhappy5 жыл бұрын

    This was just SO fantastic. I've been feeling pretty down on myself recently re: weight. Really letting societal expectations influence my feelings towards myself. But, this video re-centred me in the knowledge that my body and my weight is NOBODY'S DAMN BUSINESS. Bless up, Leena. You're a god damn gem.

  • @georgie577
    @georgie5775 жыл бұрын

    I find it disturbing that as soon as a fat person does anything in Media, they are "promoting obesity"...when at no point have they said 'you need to eat lots of food and get fat'. Tess is simply existing - she was invited to be on the cover and be interviewed because of her influence and her job, not purely because she is fat...she just happens to be fat. People seem to be ok with the body positivity movement until it is coming from a fat person. Fat people exist. And their achievements should still be celebrated - we can't just ignore their success because promoting them means we are encouraging obesity - we don't, for example, say that by featuring women with red hair is 'encouraging red-heads', or people with tattoos is 'encouraging body art'. With all the talk around bodies, it is actually refreshing to see a larger woman on the cover of a magazine (although I look forward to the days when no mention of her weight is made at all - maybe focus on her work within the body acceptance movement without actually stating what she weighs *although I do realise she may have requested or specified this herself*) It seems that big people cannot just *exist* and let their talents proceed them. And Tess Holliday is an actual human being, being interviewed for a magazine, it would be unjust (and unrealistic) to not interview her bc she is fat. We still interview fat actors and singers. Fat people exist, thin people exist, people somewhere in the middle exist - just let people do their thing.

  • @joreads8782
    @joreads87825 жыл бұрын

    Literally just finished reading the Huffington Post article you mentioned in this video. How timely!

  • @claireeden8069
    @claireeden80694 жыл бұрын

    I'm very slow on the uptake here Leena but I've only just discovered you and am going through your playlist of videos whilst in lockdown due to COVID-19 crisis! What you talk about within the first 3 minutes of your video is called the "Sociological Imagination" - the ability to ask questions (specifically why?) instead of sticking with status quo or my favourite term "common sense." It is a sociological theory, term and skill I picked up at university in my first year of studying Criminology and Criminal Justice and my views on things have been ever expanding since. I'm so glad you are sociologically imaginative person too and thank you for spreading the word.

  • @lucyroebuck8500
    @lucyroebuck85005 жыл бұрын

    I loved the ‘ELLLOOOO’ intro. Repping for all us Yorkshire lasses 💗💗I watch all your videos and am yet to find one I don’t like!! Have a great day 🎉

  • @lucyroebuck8500

    @lucyroebuck8500

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also what lipstick are you wearing?

  • @ArchaeoV
    @ArchaeoV5 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you so much for making this video, you’re awesome.

  • @LauraDFTBA
    @LauraDFTBA5 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could like this twice. Watching the reaction to the Cosmo cover, and now Micheal Hobbes' article, it's been so frustrating seeing people respond to just the image of fatness (which is pretty telling about their priorities), and completely have the issue of body positivity fly straight over them. You'd think from the outrage that someone had asked for the word 'fat' or 'obese' to be categorised as slurs, rather than suggest - gasp! - that fat people deserve the same respect and dignity as everyone else.

  • @yvonnerahmes9618
    @yvonnerahmes96185 жыл бұрын

    You showed up in my youtube feed- came over- loved this video! I agree! Subscribed mostly for book reviews, but I am sure I will find more I enjoy...

  • @juliangreene9555
    @juliangreene95555 жыл бұрын

    being obese is bad

  • @annemcenroe8070
    @annemcenroe80705 жыл бұрын

    U are very calm and it’s very nice to watch, u can’t change people’s minds by shouting at them! So ty for being so respectful abt people’s opinion

  • @AinhoaVDCY
    @AinhoaVDCY5 жыл бұрын

    I really liked all the points of view you tackled! xx

  • @samanthamalone2464
    @samanthamalone24645 жыл бұрын

    your content is brilliant and beautifully worded :)

  • @Niyapapaya8
    @Niyapapaya85 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Leena! This is really a great video.

  • @nymeria941
    @nymeria9415 жыл бұрын

    SO GOOD thank you for making this

  • @darymunne
    @darymunne5 жыл бұрын

    Your internal monologue just makes me so happy. Oh how I love listening to/discussing social issues (especially when I agree with the person). The questions you ask are essential and I just wish everyone would live life like that. Like it actually doesn’t make sense that majority of people just accept life and society and don’t give it any thought. I began to question the world and everything in it when I began studying English lit in university and oh my goodness the whole world needs to do the critical perspective module I did with the lecturers I did it with and the world will change. Social conversations need to thrive so much more than they do.. let’s just hope the world starts improving so much more and liberalism stays within the younger generation as we get older and we don’t all turn into angry conservative old people like it seems is all that exists (I obviously know that’s not true but based on majorities).

  • @ExLibris-Alys
    @ExLibris-Alys5 жыл бұрын

    Damn, you’re good. A raft of intelligence in what is largely a sea of dross on youtube

  • @iamrachelkerry
    @iamrachelkerry5 жыл бұрын

    all so important and also I've wondered about the contactless thing for ages

  • @EmmerBaldwin
    @EmmerBaldwin5 жыл бұрын

    This has intelligently summed up everything I wanted to say about this, in a much better way than I ever could!

  • @lisannepol3364
    @lisannepol33645 жыл бұрын

    I only recently started watching your channel and I binged a whole lot of your video's and I think you're great! Your videos are really like a good chat with a friend

  • @vesnny
    @vesnny5 жыл бұрын

    Such a good video! I really enjoy these videos of yours 😊

  • @wonderfront
    @wonderfront5 жыл бұрын

    Great video Leena - my thoughts exactly, put into words much better x

  • @catherinemariaa
    @catherinemariaa5 жыл бұрын

    I agree with what you’ve said entirely. The only thing that does ‘bother’ me when looking at magazine covers like this, or similar images online is that although Tess, like many other plus size models, is beautiful in her own right, the bright lights and editing washing out her ‘imperfections’ (being moles, freckles, skin discolouration, stretch marks, cellulite, uneven skin) makes her beauty just as unobtainable as a size 4 athletic model. As a fairly healthy 23 year old, size 12-14 with stretch marks and cellulite it irritates me that these side effects of weight gain are still masked by the beauty and fashion industries all the time. Although everyone’s skin is different, I don’t believe for one second that the plus size models I see on a daily basis who are mostly a lot bigger than myself have less of or none of these ‘imperfections’.

  • @marta_sanders
    @marta_sanders5 жыл бұрын

    You're so fantastic! I'm thinking about printing an image of Cosmopolitan's cover and bringing it to class for my students to discuss the topic (I'm a Spanish English teacher). I think it can work really well with my secondary school students!

  • @Pumpkin31000
    @Pumpkin310005 жыл бұрын

    I’m so early. This never happens. Came from twitter and can’t wait for your take on this 🎉

  • @leenanorms

    @leenanorms

    5 жыл бұрын

    THE EARLY BIRD CATCHES THE... I don't have any worms, sorry. But welcome!

  • @natashaullman2375
    @natashaullman23755 жыл бұрын

    So interesting! I am a publishing student and we were just discussing this in class today.

  • @sauanakid
    @sauanakid5 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video. It’s like you read my mind and said it outloud even better!

  • @kittynekocat
    @kittynekocat5 жыл бұрын

    This is such a good video!

  • @huxleybearSARAHH
    @huxleybearSARAHH5 жыл бұрын

    You’re the best 🙌🏻

  • @sarahbeaglehole9377
    @sarahbeaglehole93775 жыл бұрын

    You make so much sense!

  • @glimmeringshard
    @glimmeringshard5 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be interesting to look at why this cover is attributed so much power and leads to a peak in discussions around body-positivity :).

  • @eve3275
    @eve32755 жыл бұрын

    Magazines have often been used as a pedestal for aesthetics and beauty. Whilst celebrities are used more so than models now the message still lies there. Young girls and women have spoken out about the harm the average skinny models have conflicted on their mental health countless times. Even the models themselves have spoken out about it. Tess Holiday is a hyperbolic contrast to those models. Very convenient that the conversation over health has to start with Tess Holiday and not the status quo. Magazines have never been about health than about power that now has decayed since the internet has offered an alternative for better or worse. So glad you spoke on this 👏👏👏

  • @RashmikaLikesBooks

    @RashmikaLikesBooks

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeeee! This is about a larger issue of just this specific model. People are missing the point when they yell "but her health!" they're missing the point that average sized women aren't on magazines and that magazines are ridiculous anyway. I'm glad some of this print media is becoming obsolete.

  • @averskandl1
    @averskandl13 жыл бұрын

    2.5 years later and this is still wonderful and articulate. I appreciate the lense being turned onto consmo's role in all of this. It's a shame that its been this long, and there is currently a UK cosmo article featuring a fat yoga instructor and people are freaking out saying the same "this promotes obesity" conversation. Pressing on and having these conversations is just as important today.

  • @LaurenAndTheBooks
    @LaurenAndTheBooks5 жыл бұрын

    ALL HAIL QUEEN LEENA SPEAKING ALL THE SENSE!

  • @abiroad
    @abiroad5 жыл бұрын

    thanks for putting this into words so well, very tempted to send it to a popular youtuber who has been splashing poorly-considered opinions about this cover all over my twitter feed...

  • @thathaliegirl

    @thathaliegirl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if that youtuber maybe rhymes with Smelanie Smurphy...

  • @Pumpkin31000

    @Pumpkin31000

    5 жыл бұрын

    My exact thoughts!

  • @abiroad

    @abiroad

    5 жыл бұрын

    how on EARTH did you guess? /s

  • @ruthlouise95

    @ruthlouise95

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just sent it to her ;)

  • @glimmeringshard

    @glimmeringshard

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've always found her quite open to constructive feedback, so no harm no foul probably :P

  • @creativereindeer
    @creativereindeer5 жыл бұрын

    Saw this a-bubbling and found your chat a refreshing cut through. One thing that grated - jumping something to a fetish because you disagree or think it’s weird, whilst extremification is funny and grabby for this kinda media, it could also be fuelling the inability of each side interacting well? Ie like the three comments and hitler gets mentioned type thing of comment interactions. As a society we are more interconnected than we act like and what we do or say does impact other people so we should seek understanding through patient interaction rather than name-calling/box dropping (that is blunter than I mean for it to sound but I think you can take my point and I’d be up for this being kindly dismantled also!) great edit also. Fun. 😊

  • @ioanna_kamenidou
    @ioanna_kamenidou5 жыл бұрын

    take a shot every time she says "Tess Holloway"

  • @anna-qf5qh
    @anna-qf5qh5 жыл бұрын

    PREACH IT SISTER

  • @LuminousRose29
    @LuminousRose295 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes yes!! I agree with this SO much

  • @sophiaz.1083
    @sophiaz.10835 жыл бұрын

    Leena, you look gorgeous with those low space bun things and everything! Also: loved this video essay. I really enjoy your content, as always! Does anyone have a good recommendation on a channel with similar video essays like this on youtube?

  • @ClaireBrit123
    @ClaireBrit1235 жыл бұрын

    So interesting and articulate as usual! I hadn't thought about the fact that Cosmo are pushing a body positivity movement to women who already know about it/ created it! When I've seen the cover debated on traditional news outlets this is always failed to be mentioned, and I think that fact is completely unknown in a lot of traditional journalism. As always young women are undermined; we don't have brains capable of logic and reasoning, of research and rationality, of grass roots online activism?! It's so insulting that some believe this cover will seriously influence women in a negative way... Yet hardly any of these young women or these fat young women specifically are asked to comment. I also think it's worth mentioning just plainly what an extraordinary move this is in mainstream culture. However many people get pissed off about it, the cover still remains, controversial or not, and that's something to be proud of.

  • @patriceb1274
    @patriceb12745 жыл бұрын

    I also think putting a 5’10 120lb women on the cover might be questionable as well regarding a healthy lifestyle....

  • @boo1993
    @boo19935 жыл бұрын

    Yes Leena yes !

  • @Madelelion
    @Madelelion5 жыл бұрын

    Leena, what mascara are you using cause DAAAAYUUUUUUUMN GURL, DEM LASHES ARE AMAZZZZING. Forever trying to find a good C-F mascara...Ps, love your content

  • @sophiereevefoster
    @sophiereevefoster3 жыл бұрын

    i want to make a wall poster out of every sentence leena says

  • @lalawonders4142
    @lalawonders41424 жыл бұрын

    Tess Holiiday is NOT plus size she's morbidly obese that was the issue. In addition she put herself out there as one of those body acceptance kinda people so it is our business to to comment about her weight and health when she is clearly obese and unhealthy. As to why putting her on the cover was so controversial is because it normalizes obesity the body acceptance idea she and many others promote allows many to believe that obesity is okay when it is clearly not. Sure you can be a bit chubby, a bit overweight but NOT [mobidly] obese and that is what she is.

  • @Cristalmate
    @Cristalmate5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great video! Can you link the article you mentioned about physicians and nutrition in the bio?

  • @RashmikaLikesBooks
    @RashmikaLikesBooks5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting about physicians. In my country, pharmacists must advise patients on nutrition according to the law, (its in our scope of practice, especially concerning diabetic people, pregnant people, and with regards to young children) so we spend aaages learning the biochemistry of metabolism. It's really hectic. Not sure about medics though, but that sounds about right.

  • @angelag6572
    @angelag65725 жыл бұрын

    Great video! 😘

  • @helendancelot
    @helendancelot5 жыл бұрын

    Cosmopolitan was a for runner in women's rights back in the seventies. They told the public that women could have orgasms . people actually thought due partly to medical profession and maybe largely due to a majority of women never achieving orgasm. Due to women's pleasure being insignificant to men and even women. Do you even know that anyone?

  • @ioana-mihaelacozac9777
    @ioana-mihaelacozac97775 жыл бұрын

    The first video (ad) showing up in the suggestions is: 4 ways to lose weight. Nice.

  • @coniglionerodiinle6217
    @coniglionerodiinle62175 жыл бұрын

    Celebrities who are known and even talkative about leading unhealty lifestyles are covered on magazines regularly, since they look attractive and fit for our cultural standards - with a little help from Photoshop sometimes. And THAT doesn't seem to be a problem for the same people who get so triggered by seeing overweight bodies, calling them "bad models". That remember me of people calling me "unhealty" because I was struggling with eating disorder while they were smoking, overdrinking and doing drugs but on the outside they looked better than me so... 😉

  • @bookishl8373
    @bookishl83735 жыл бұрын

    Amen to that! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @rebeccaschoeman1019
    @rebeccaschoeman10195 жыл бұрын

    Love this! xxx

  • @irishalltheway960
    @irishalltheway9605 жыл бұрын

    great as alwayyysssss

  • @IzzyInkpen
    @IzzyInkpen5 жыл бұрын

    this is a debate i'm watching from the sidelines, bc reading various opinions about it i've come out going... oh i don't know. I know that mentalities i have are affecting my logical judgement of the situation so i've decided not to say anything. nevertheless, very interesting to hear your thoughts

  • @ella5452
    @ella54525 жыл бұрын

    it's very interesting to see all the discussion surrounding this cover, I found Meghan Tonjes's vid and yours the best so far. you are both such brilliant humans with very nuanced, informative and empathetic views. all that being said ,cosmopolitan is trash and has been vile trash for years,so i don't put any merit in them. loved your vid though, much love 💗

  • @ThisNarrowboatAdventure
    @ThisNarrowboatAdventure5 жыл бұрын

    I wanna read the articule you mentioned, cant see the link in the discription, am i mad and confused ? can some give me the link?

  • @legotech101
    @legotech1015 жыл бұрын

    But should we care who’s on a magazine cover?

  • @marleypup4462
    @marleypup44625 жыл бұрын

    Lol...trolled twitter for your photo_.. how nice of them

  • @JMShelley
    @JMShelley5 жыл бұрын

    That last line!!! 'Question whether you really trust women and whether that needs to change.' MIC DROP! Urgh loved this so much! Thank you lovely for speaking up about this! And helping to dig deeper at the real issues! It needed to be addressed. x

  • @michelek9321
    @michelek93215 жыл бұрын

    I find this magazine problematic not because she is plus sized, but because she represents the acceptance of plus size in a way that continues to sexualize women. The format of the magazine itself perpetuates the normalization of visual consumption and objectification. To put a plus sized woman on the cover now encourages society to sexualize and objectify another type of woman. Body positivity is very much needed but it should not be encouraged in a way that perpetuates the value of a woman being based on her sex appeal.

  • @cheryllovestoread
    @cheryllovestoread5 жыл бұрын

    Power player, hmmm! Nice! 💐

  • @mia.jade.
    @mia.jade.5 жыл бұрын

    Liked 1 minute in on the basis of 2015 Instagram Leena commentary.

  • @idlesun1645
    @idlesun16455 жыл бұрын

    THANKS

  • @lillyanne7755
    @lillyanne77555 жыл бұрын

    it doesn't always have to be thin people on magazines

  • @emilyrosehearne
    @emilyrosehearne5 жыл бұрын

    You are inspiring

  • @ruaks4323
    @ruaks43235 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone have a discussion about why we tap contactless cards? I’m super curious about it now

  • @eveem7197
    @eveem71975 жыл бұрын

    The entire idea that girls should have role models for their bodies is super weird... The underlying assumption is that we are teaching girls to compare themselves to each other in the first place. Secondly, if we are comparing (because we do :P) Why are super thin models ok? They are not a good comparison for so many women whose bodies would be unhealthy at such a low weight.

  • @joycelinlgbtq

    @joycelinlgbtq

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say the same thing, so many skinny models in magazines have contributed to other eating disorders (e.g. anorexia, bulemia etc.) There's so much extremism these days, there's no temperance in media. Why only super skinny or super large? The idea is that people have all kinds of shapes of bodies, Right?

  • @luke28
    @luke285 жыл бұрын

    He Leena! I am really happy there are people like you who make critical social- and current content on youtube! I am always happy to hear from you :) This is a really good video and I very much agree with you! As a nurse, I have to point out though, that I do think talking about obesity is important since it can have very dangerous health consequences and effects so many people. However, I don't think that this should happen in the form of a discussion (/fat shaming) about a model in a magazine. In my experience, Tess Holliday represents us a humans more than any other model ever on the cover of the cosmo before. Her 'being there' is valueable to help us seeing, accepting and loving how we see ourselves (and others) more than we do now. It is valuable for equal representation. This article, I think, is a tool/step to get there and that is the point of it. It is not the point to start talking about obesity and unhealthy choices. That is an entirely different conversation we could start in and entirily different context. Does this make any sense? I always have trouble putting down my thoughts in a coherent way. Thank you for starting this conversation!

  • @ucchi9829
    @ucchi98295 жыл бұрын

    Most of the backlash I believe is her talking about how healthy she really is in the past. But i could be wrong. About your comment on whats healthy our not. Yes doctors barely get to learn anything about nutrition. However they can just refer to studies that are published to determine certain things. For example there is a correlation with being at a certain body fat with diseases, bone issues, ect.

  • @tuffbaby99
    @tuffbaby995 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I hadn't thought about this from the company perspective. I thought a really false assumption of a lot of people "against" this cover is that we absorb ideas about health from magazines, social media etc. The images that we see influence our body image...I don't think that we look at pictures of fat or skinny bodies and have them directly influence what we think is healthy. Tess Holiday doesn't make women aspire to be 130kg...she (and others alike) make women more comfortable with a broader range of body types and helps people realise that weight doesn't need to define happiness. The vast majority of people know that it is healthy to exercise, to eat fruit and veg and wholegrains, etc. Representation of fat bodies doesn't jeopardise this knowledge.

  • @no1inparticular487
    @no1inparticular4873 жыл бұрын

    only kind of related to the video, but I think mental health is way more important than physical health (though they are very linked)

  • @somethingsomethingsomethin8366
    @somethingsomethingsomethin83665 жыл бұрын

    I want your hair color!!!!

  • @TheJadezilla
    @TheJadezilla5 жыл бұрын

    thin does not equal virtuous. You brought up an interesting point that magazines like Cosmo created the anti-fat rhetoric to begin with and these reparations might be too little too late. But they still carry a lot of clout, at least in the abstract. So them taking a step to saying, "we're sorry, we were wrong" is pretty great. Fantastic video!

  • @Gladysjelly
    @Gladysjelly5 жыл бұрын

    May i know what lipstick are you wearing?

  • @catherinegrealish2306
    @catherinegrealish23065 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes yes!!! ❤️

  • @lauranyc4966
    @lauranyc49665 жыл бұрын

    Oh my GOD 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @daisymoon8
    @daisymoon85 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious about that article you mention, but I couldn't find it. Do you have the link? Great video

  • @caihui9642
    @caihui96425 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes and yes

  • @alenemarie1726
    @alenemarie17265 жыл бұрын

    The conversation surrounding “health” and “healthy bodies” really needs to make a dramatic shift. My dad and I watched a ted talk the other and the speaker was talking about “thin outside, fat inside” and how thin people, people you think are “healthy” have so many fat deposits in their organs, where as a “fat” person is actually healthy because their fat is just under skin, it’s not sitting in their organs. My brother is thin, but he eats utter crap everyday, but my mother is “overweight” and she eats incredibly healthy and works out almost everyday. I bet she doesn’t have any fat in her organs, and my brother does. I’ve also suffered greatly at the hands of magazines and models and the idea that thin is the best. I’m naturally a small person, I am very thin boned, and didn’t weight 100lbs until I was 15. I developed disordered eating habits, something I’m still trying to break to this day! Because it was shoved down my throat that skinny is the best and getting older (im 24) and gaining weight was bad! Women naturally gain more weight in their hips, thighs and stomachs when they mature because our body is getting ready to have babies. We naturally gain this weight, and retain this weight. I’m really happy you’ve called out the complicated nature of this organization even though they’ve chosen to highlight you. That shows you have integrity and honesty. Also this is just an AMAZING video. 15/10

  • @darryledxavier6392
    @darryledxavier63925 жыл бұрын

    crisi is an understatement as over 65% of the country is over weight or obese and also the nhs spends most of its budget dealing with both the physical and mental issues that come with obesity also i have yet to see and obese person over the age of 50 and if you want to atleast see youe grand kids i wouldnt advise being so big at a young age also interms of magazines and the industry sayings its fine to be obese will lead to a situation where the nation is to big to move and do any form of physical work as in required physical work to maintain the country in anyway shape or form and we will all end up looking like people in the Walle Film on mobility scooters