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People want cheaper cars. People want a car with a decent interior, that isn’t 70 freaking grand. The only reason those cars are selling so fast is because finding cars in that price range is becoming more and more obscure, so those few vehicles control the market.

@calebniederhofer6529

14 күн бұрын

You can buy decently equipped midsize and full size sedans for half that, what are you talking about? I sell Trucks and used.

@timmoyer6037

13 күн бұрын

This is why my last two sedans have been accords. Last one I bought was an ‘09 I bought in ‘11.

@Whatisthis195

13 күн бұрын

@@calebniederhofer6529 sorry, my explanation wasn’t the greatest. Yes, that was my point that these are selling fast due to the lower prices on sedans/midsize SUVs these companies offer. I used the generic term “car” when I should have used truck/SUV. I’m also referring to new here.

@mattdecker6791

13 күн бұрын

Get rid of sunroofs--expensive, complex, prone to leak, heavy, weakens structure, less headroom, most people never open theirs!

@alexapexgod4643

13 күн бұрын

@@mattdecker6791no I like my sun roof no sun roof no deal 🙅‍♂️

Surprized Fiat sold 100 electric cars. it is a miracle that they can sell any cars of any type at all.

@seanpowers346

14 күн бұрын

They are relatively cheap, which is why.

@joshreed1216

13 күн бұрын

Its a good city commuter car. Tiny and really efficient at slow speeds.

@garfieldsmith332

12 күн бұрын

@@seanpowers346 Perhaps for an electric car. Cheaper to buy a small ICE vehicle from Toyota, Honda, or Hyundai, Cheaper in the long run. At least in Canada. They start at 38K in Canada (28K USD).

@garfieldsmith332

12 күн бұрын

@@joshreed1216 Fiats have always been good at low speed because they can not go any faster. The ICE powered Fiats in Canada were crap. The ICE powered 300 and 500 are no longer sold here. Start at 38K here. Corolla hybrid starts as 30K here.

@user-ye1wn3uj7e

8 күн бұрын

Never buying a FIAT, ICE or electric. No matter how cheap they are. They’re complete junks.

$40,000 for a 4 cylinder, front wheel drive econobox is absolutely jaw dropping.

You guys have the pulse of the consumer auto market and explain it in easy-to-understand language. Anyone interested in buying a new or used car/truck should follow your channel.

Sad times when the affordability mean is $50k 😢

@thedragonofdalzell

13 күн бұрын

I'm in my forties and can remember when car companies sold base models for under $20,000

@alexapexgod4643

13 күн бұрын

@@thedragonofdalzell2018 😂

@Have.An.AmicoDay

12 күн бұрын

Mitsubishi Mirage can still get for under 20 grand... 😂 but you get what you pay for. Good gas mileage though and its almost as reliable as toyota

@double_courage57

11 күн бұрын

@@Have.An.AmicoDayBetter to buy a used Toyota at that price

Never heard, or saw a Dodge Hornet on the road.

@rontopp

13 күн бұрын

You listen for them?

@stevielease7952

12 күн бұрын

I've seen more AMC Hornets on the road still running, than I've seen Dodge Hornets.

That POS hornet is more expensive than a 2024 WRX, LOL!

@stephenamick5169

4 күн бұрын

I've only seen a few on the road, and I always feel bad because that car is always on these lists and I hope that they've never seen these videos!

"Lost Automotive Continent of Stellantis" , seriously funny :)

Are you trying to tell me people are not buying cars that cost $102k. Shocking😜

@alexapexgod4643

13 күн бұрын

It’s only 10% and most people have savings of a million or more by the time they are 45

I notice unusual cars around me all the time. I have yet to see ONE Dodge Hornet actually on the road. I see plenty of them sitting in the lot of my local CRJ dealer. But nobody seems to be BUYING them!

@eskieman3948

13 күн бұрын

Enterprise Car Rental locations have quite a few.

@stevemartin7464

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, they'er just for show I think.

I have been a big fan for a long time. What I love most about this video is that I KNOW you can afford two mics but use only one anyway. Seriously. You guys are great:)

Affordably and RELIABLY!

Subaru Crosstrek has to be on that list

Would be interesting to see a list that excludes the luxury brands. Also a separate one just for gas-engine cars.

Funny thing I contacted a few dealers it takes them days to get back to you

@salbundy2451

11 күн бұрын

Maybe it's your mask

@LukeTrovisi

11 күн бұрын

Haven’t had an issues getting contacted by dealers, they do get skiddish when you ask for pricing though

@ronaldvazquez4373

10 күн бұрын

@@salbundy2451lol

@ronaldvazquez4373

10 күн бұрын

@@LukeTrovisiyeah your right I’ve gotten quotes for MSRP

Most of the dealerships here only have the most expensive Toyota Camrys. No lower than 36k

@corrosivedevourer

13 күн бұрын

Seeing Camrys used to being OTD for 26k and now OTD for 40k is insane

@user-rq1mk9hi4x

12 күн бұрын

@@corrosivedevourer Toyota ie a ripoff !

@djkenny1202

11 күн бұрын

Just get the LE. $29950. It’s hybrid, standard equipment is fantastic. Still more than I’d spend on a car.

@djkenny1202

11 күн бұрын

@@corrosivedevourerwhy would it be 40k? The LE is $30,000. T/TL/Lic should equal under $32,000, unless it’s an unscrupulous dealer.

@spades9048

8 күн бұрын

I’ve always wanted a brand new Lexus but I’ve just never been able to justify the price. I looked at a CRV Hybrid last weekend - wasn’t even touring just EX-L and the sticker was $40k. I’m not paying $40k for a CRV and so I finally went and got the Lexus.

Thank you for the advise on your videos. Im in the process of purchasing a vehicle.

On top of the obvious, I really thing advertisers are targeting the wrong crowds. Check them out.

@johnnylongfeather3086

2 күн бұрын

👨

Eight of the fastest selling are recognized as RELIABLE vehicles with decent pricing . Also , please note . There are FIVE vehicles on the fastest list that are less than that bullshit Hornet .

I was driving from Milbrae CA to Palo Alto on US101 freeway on Sunday July 7 and noticed a large red 'MSRP or Less' banner attached to Toyota101 building in Redwood City.

Stellantis should really pay yall commission for how much you bring up Dodge Hornets lol

I don't recall seeing anything about it on CarEdge, but I read a while back that Jaguar is pulling out of the US market. That would help explain why they can't sell cars.

@PretentiousBrownie

13 күн бұрын

There seems to be a lot of speculation on what may happen with Jaguar, but between JLR as a whole and Jaguar as an individual entity, they’ve seen some pretty large shakeups in leadership and goals these past few years, and a number of pretty drastic shifts in overall direction as a brand/company; after killing off the big EV project for a next-generation flagship XJ saloon, people were left wondering what the deal was, and it seems that Jaguar instead is committing to an all-new (and significantly upmarket) rebranding to push them closer to the likes of Aston Martin and Bentley, instead of the current standing among BMW, Mercedes, and Audi. I believe it was last year that JLR pushed a few subtle changes to the lineup to axe some of the complexity in trims and models, paired offerings down across the board, and dramatically reduced their physical presence in retail spaces with a commitment to launch a new grand touring/performance flagship and an EV-first lineup starting in 2025. They said no new models would be seen for 2023 (and subsequently this year), and orders and builds for current 2024s have already largely stopped, with most remaining ICE Jaguars sitting on lots being the absolute last of the last. The existing leftovers are phenomenal values - the cars themselves are quite proven and reliable nowadays, they’re definitely still nice, and Land Rover dealers will take up the helm of what Jaguar has slowly shuttered, but with how secretive they’ve been and how dramatic their few teasers and press releases have been, I can only assume this will have to be one massive last-ditch effort to recover the faltering brand before they really pull the plug. As a longtime owner, I hope they succeed in their next iteration/era, but I also suspect that this massive rebranding and the new offerings that will come about as a result of it will price out a good number of current and previous owners who have always known Jaguar to be a bit like Volvo in terms of their quiet, understated, and elegant luxury at a more attainable price than most German and Italian counterparts - something that’s nearly always been true throughout the history of the brand!

this is what I have said for weeks. prices are not coming down as much as people are just buying cheaper priced cars. The average selling price is lower because few people are buying > 50K cars, not because MSRP prices are dropping.

@outkast40

14 күн бұрын

That goes for EV sales as well. 100 thousand dollar vehicles are not what most consumers are looking for.

Got a Pilot couple of weeks ago, 6% off MSRP and got a 2.9% 36 month financing. Dealers didn't deal in the city! Had to go out to rural area.

@johnnylongfeather3086

2 күн бұрын

Gay

i love how he admires his father. and looks just like him in the eyes and nose. keep it up.

Alas the 2025 Camry has a lot of "new model" markup in my area. Effectively $2K over MSRP/TSRP. I expect they will catch up with the demand within the year, however.

@toyota420xp

14 күн бұрын

Thats the dealers not the market in newengland 500 off msrp

I predicted this! The ZDX will be leasing for 199 month by Thanksgiving. Nobody wants to buy this and take a 30K depreciation hit in 12 months.

@outkast40

14 күн бұрын

Its not even made by HONDA and you still lose 30k?

@DS-wo8wr

11 күн бұрын

Nobody wants an Acura Blazer EV…

Easy. I want a car with no heated/cooled seats. No powered windows, no active suspension dampening system, no backup camera, no navigation or touchscreen, no adaptive cruise control. Just removing those features lowers a car’s cost by $20k

@salbundy2451

11 күн бұрын

Where can I find that

I bought a 2025 Lexus NX350 hybrid this week. I got the only one on the lot and I was happy that they took $1,500 off.

Just bought a loaded Toyota Venza (all hybrid, all awd). 50k out the door, very nice vehicle….

@johnnylongfeather3086

2 күн бұрын

Ripped off

I am not afraid to walk out of a dealership if I get a salesperson who keeps going back to the boss for price. I rarely. As far as the finance guy I only do financing, and don't go for the "boiler room" tactics and say NO to everything else. Making sure there is no prepayment penalties. I find you videos are excellent and possibly next time I am in the market I might use your service. But, I am waiting to see what the 2025 Gas Honda CRV EXL will look like interior and exterior. Like to see your video on that. I might lease if the number works and with honda there is always a good residual. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND TELL ALL MY FRIENDS. Especially the one with the Blond Finance girl who is really an eye opener for people.

Excellent show…thanks❤

How is the hornet over 40k when you can get a great Mazda CX5 for under 33

RE: the Jeep Gladiator not selling, it can only be because of the pricing because otherwise, it's a really nice -- and Top Dog off-road 4x4 capable -- mid-size truck. I have a 2021 (Rubicon), but if I were buying today I'd get another one. EXCEPT -- as this video says -- the outrageous pricing makes me reconsider. Still, I don't know what I could get as an alternative since I've mixed-feelings about the 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 (the Gladiator Rubicon's ONLY direct competition). Still, that doesn't mean the Gladiator isn't a very nice/capable truck, either on road or on the hwy (and it can tow what I need). I've had it on several long 3-state road-trips so far and it's been as comfortable sitting-in/smooth-riding as my previous vehicle was (2016 Honda Pilot AWD) on road-trips. As for reliability, only 3 years of ownership so far but only 2 minor issues (under warranty). Otherwise, nothing. But just in case, I DID get a Mopar 5-year Maximum Care Vehicle Protection Plan (MVP) which will take me to early 2029. Feel better now. ;-) -- BR

The Acura ZDX looks like a hearse 😅😂🙈

@DS-wo8wr

11 күн бұрын

It is a re-badged Cadillac Lyric…

On Lincoln Navigator sales those were all cash deals. Or 36 month loan, nobody could be stupid enough to finance a auto of $100,000 for 72 months?

Thanks for the great breakdown. I intend to purchase a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord when I return to the US this October. I'm hoping sales slow and prices begin to decline. Thanks again.

PLEASE what is the market dst supply..?

Curious if there is a threshold of sales to qualify for the list. Within a couple hundred miles of where I live, the plug-in hybrid Toyota's (Rav4 and Prius) seem to be the fastest selling with all of them sold before they are delivered. I don't know how one measures that in days.

Cool that you guys went through the slowest slow and the fastest fast haha

Chevy dealers are loading up on the NEW Equinox EV's. Only $8500 off with Federal Tax Credit & Costco.

Only way non Tesla EVs will ever sell is to be priced cheaper than Teslas 😮

@toyota420xp

14 күн бұрын

I would never desire a tesla. I think they look realy terrible

@outkast40

14 күн бұрын

Exactly ! No car company has better technology than Tesla. Hyundai/Kia will sell their EV2 and EV 3 for under 30 grand and made in Georgia.

@jackanderson2773

14 күн бұрын

@@outkast40There’s several out here . They’re a cookie cutter car that depreciates like a rock !

@outkast40

14 күн бұрын

@@jackanderson2773 When your paying 10 to 20 grand over MSRP. All are depreciating like a rock. Gas engine vehicles are losing value to hybrid and electric vehicles. Manufactures have to reduce prices to sell 2022 -2024 vehicles still on the lot. Your car was never really worth anything.

@jackanderson2773

14 күн бұрын

@@outkast40 my whole point is EV‘s depreciate much faster . Do the research .

Great video guys - affordable, reliable coupled with great resale values!

I work for Honda, We can't keep cars in stock, especially the Pilot in the higher trims. Civics too. So cars at two ends of the price spectrum.

@cathyg1099

14 күн бұрын

What about the lower end Passports?

Are cars from Tesla or Rivian considered on these lists, or excluded because they dont reall follow a standard dealer model?

5:58 "Two themes in that list, electric vehicles and Stellantis" Yet, I'll be curious to know what the Average Days Supply for the Wrangler 4XE is... Cause those seem to sell pretty well.

Acura drivers as a whole.....love driving. Many Acuras have mods. Can't see any ICE acura owners buying an EV. Maybe the Vigor owners.

You snuck the Dodge Hornet mention in at the end. Congrats.

Just curious, wouldn't it make more sense to track the sales, non-sales for an entire month, instead of the first 5-6 days of the month?

No mention of the Subaru

How's the new Pilot selling? I wish i could grab a black edition

@jp3047

14 күн бұрын

Broke back transmissions by Honda

EV’s = Price and Range, please look at the Range and if they don’t get at least 300 + miles of range they will always sit a really long time.

It's quite funny when I watch this. We bought a 2015 Fiat 500e in 2014. It has about 70K miles on it now. Has been the best car we ever had for what it was designed for. Zipping around the neighborhood. Interestingly, we bought it because of the "ugliness is the worst form of pollution" which were so funny and our style. And why get a Nissan Leaf. The other funny point is the most recent car we have is the Alfa Romeo Tonale Veloce (which in reality is a European pimped up Dodge Hornet). We love that car as well with its looks (we have the gorgeous Verde Fangio - green color) and get lot's of comments from people. I guess the point I have, is that we would never buy a Dodge, however the Alfa Romeo has been so much fun.

Happy to use your concierge service if you think they can get me a better deal on cx50 polymetal grey w/sunroof, best i can do is $1100 off, 1.9 for 72 and additional $500 because daughter owns a 2023 cx5. Whatchya think? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Some small advice, please. Do you negotiate from the OTD price or the listed price as a base? Specifically with a used car.

@SmittyAZ

14 күн бұрын

OTD is all that really matters in the end. Stick with YOUR OTD price, let them jungle the numbers.

@strangeblast7685

14 күн бұрын

@@SmittyAZ Thank you 🙏🏽.

Your graphic for the Navigator is actually an Aviator!

you're right...

Paid $34K for our Highlander Limited in 2018 and it's a great vehicle that I intend to keep until the wheels fall off barring an unforeseen incident. Curious if that $48K is for the base model.

$70k for a chevy EV rebadged as an Acura? No thanks.

So I’m in the works of buying my first vehicle all by myself. Some of the deals I have don’t have a total taxes on the deal but they have the doc fees & government fees. Should I be worried or don’t even think about it?

@cathyg1099

14 күн бұрын

They can easily calculate your taxes using your address. It's not OTD without taxes, and tags (make sure they itemize the fees). Good luck.

How about mazda and nissan. A lot of cx50 and Pathfinder running around.

@stanmarcusgtv

14 күн бұрын

both are discount brands

@Ryude

14 күн бұрын

Nissan trucks are decent, but their passenger vehicles and horrible. Mazda is pretty good, but you can definitely negotiate a deal on them.

Are there any special negotiating tactics for trying to land a fast selling car at a good price? It just seems like the dealer will have all the power since they know the vehicle is hard to get.

The 500e might be tempting to some buyers at $14,995, as a way to get around the city. I can't imagine who might want one for $35k. And Fiat has the worst reputation for longevity in the US.

I had an AMC hornet long long ago... lol I upgraded to an eagle after that.

@Karrpilot

7 күн бұрын

A comfortable set of shoes would be a better choice

In my opinion if Jeep wants to sell cars again, they need to use the V-6 Hurricane engine in the smaller models and go back to the V-8 for the bigger models , also they need to put the ICE engines back in the Trailhawk models and then fix their electrical problems because in this day and age it can't be that hard to wire a car and get the software to work, heck its probably mostly due to buying junk circuit board etc to save them money. The worst thing they ever did was make the Trailhawks 4Xe's only. Whatever higher up dum dum made that choice should have be fired immediately, unless he/she already has already been fired.

Well said

A question off topic. What can a buyer do if a dealer used the wrong oil and engine damage at 790 original miles?

@DanTheMan-sz1ft

14 күн бұрын

At 790 miles it’s under full warranty. If the service was all done by the dealer, they can’t point any fingers at you. If the dealer tries to deny your warranty, contact your states attorney generals office online and file a complaint.

@mitchrothermel8157

13 күн бұрын

I just don’t want some mangled up pice of s**t! I feel a crate engine or new truck. That is how I would feel more confident in pursuing on.

You have a logical fallacy in your discussion point. You're assuming market supply is purely a function of market demand. It's actually a bigger indicator of the vehicle company's ability to predict demand for that vehicle and their relative pricing. Market supply is a good indication of what kind of deal vs MSRP you can get though. There are plenty of high volume selling vehicles with a 45 day market supply showing people want those vehicles and their manufacturers have accurately priced and projected demand.

100k for a lincoln navigator? ford smoking CR@CK?

I cant see why anyone would buy an EV, but the list shows that people are intelligent; they want cars that are reliable, economical, not an EV and resonably priced. Its a great thing to see people being sensible. The Range Rover? Thats a weird one, but I suppose if you are really wealthy it is nice until it breaks down in about a week or so.

the only car i would buy today is the Lexus ES350 v6 base. Don't care for the options. I just want a 6 cylinders. before it's GONE

I like how these guys tell it like it really is!

Stellantis will fold in 18 months. 💩 cars and 💩 reliability....... jus’sayin......

You should get two mikes, imo.

Right now , is a dumb time to buy a vehicle . Ridiculous interest rates, dealer fees, poorly engineered designs , preplanned repairs… let them rot, on the lot . This is coming from a guy that desperately need a new truck …. I can afford anything I want , however the whole vehicle situation is a train wreck on many levels .

The Lincoln Navigator is nice, but the average price should be closer to 65K

Car brands have lost their damn minds with all these prices. I am not buying anything not because I can’t afford it but because the prices are too outrageous and excessively high

What is the market day supply for Teslas? Don't they have acres and acres of parking lots filled with cars parked in them?

@outkast40

14 күн бұрын

No! Tesla doesn't have dealerships full of cars sitting around. They are mostly made to order vehicles and they have total control over prices. The consumer will never have good resale value for vehicles anymore.

You can’t charge 110K for a new vehicle when there are 6 year old used examples that look identical to new selling for under 30K 😂

Stellantis is going downhill & many dealers are shutting down here. GM is also headed for the toilet as CEO Mary Barra running it to the ground with this EV crap. Finally the under 15k truck Chevrolet Montana single cab unibody available in a 6 speed automatic & 5 speed manual may be available next year. They are selling well in the South America & South Africa markets & they are made in Brazil but let's hope they not make them in Mexico for the US & Canada markets as poor quality control issues there.

The theme here is that lemons don't sell. Only Apples are selling. The name make the deals. If you have reliable cars, you sells. If you have no reliable cars, you don't sells.

Well jesus they want both kidneys both eyes and your heart just to buy one of these damp things. And on top of it all the fees that are add. When I want to buy a new car there was over $3000 in fees including a financing and negoti. I'm self-financed so why charge me a finance fee. And WTF is an negotiation free? When they wouldn't resend the fees I got up and walk out. $75000 for a vehicle and then $7500 in sales tax, $3800 for licensing fees and then $8500 in dealership fees. No sale

42k for a Dodge hornet economy car?!?!! Lol can't believe they even make that

These average selling prices just blow my mind. I picked up a Jetta back in 2016 when they were selling for 12k new. Inflation & all now you can't get one for under 21k. The new ones are uglier anyway. If had to buy a new car today... I would probably get a Versa manual for 16k (never the slow unreliable cvt). If you just must have an auto because you are missing a leg, don't know how to drive, or plan to let a woman drive it... probably spend more & get the Corolla. I know it's still cvt and boring but not the type that breaks easily.

you pay you dont get

So does this translate into ... I want to buy a Camry so I should anticipate paying MSRP or more, versus lots of room for negotiating for a Dodge Hornet?

@asdf_asdf948

14 күн бұрын

Yes, but you should still get the Camry. It'll last you through 2-3 hornets.

@Ryude

14 күн бұрын

Even if you paid over MSRP the Camry will be worth it. But don't buy unless you can afford it. Taking out a 72+ month loan means you can't afford it.

@bg3007

12 күн бұрын

Even if there's lots of room to negotiate, it's still a Dodge, AKA a POS that will break down all the time and be an endless money pit. You won't be able to negotiate it down to where it should be, which is like 15k. And even if you could get them that cheap, still not worth it. I'd rather have a 10 year old Toyota or Honda than a new Dodge.

It is not about EVs, it is about price, every car over $45,000 is slow selling and only cars under $35,000 are increasing in sales. Not many EVs have an MSRP under $35,000 while quite a few fossil fuel burners are priced under $35,000.

Market day supply is not how fast the cars are selling. How many cars a month are sold is how fast they are selling

The top 10 best selling vehicles aren’t because of the sub $50K price point, it’s because they are (mostly) Toyota and Honda. Great reliability and great resale value. I mean, who wants a Chevy Sonic or Cruz??

EV's will sell more if and when their battery packs become modular, like AA type batteries have.

Mazda SUVs surprisingly doesnt have good resale value, at least in the U.S. which is surprising because they are a reliable Japanese made car. Even used hyundai suv anything sell for higher and faster.

Why No Mention Of The Mazda Sales

Well technically the ZDX, has a Acura badge but its a model that has GM bones. One of those crazy things in which Acura and Cadillac share engine, underpinings and EV components to maximize automotive architecture tonreduce costs. Note this was dine before when Acura and Isuzu created a truck in the early 1990’s a s that was a total disaster. History repeats itself and its not looking good for Acura or Cadillaac now.

@j.redbeard99

14 күн бұрын

The “Acura” ZDX is a Cadillac Lyriq with different sheet metal and interior. Everything else is GM.

What’s a dodge hornet?

Fiat and Audi has a very small market for gas engine vehicles and you think EV sales would be up ? Kia/Hyundai EV sales are growing fast and Tesla numbers are better than expected . Toyota is pushing out defective trucks by the thousands .

Great stuff

The vehicles that I like & want aren't sold in the US market, so zero temptation to buy anything new.

Definitely wasn't a navigator in the picture, that was previous generation Aviator..... just saying.

Most of these car makers got rid of their cheap small cars. Meanwhile Toyota and Honda can't keep their Civics and Corralla's on the lots.