Faster Milling and Longer Cutter Life...Watch this One !!
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If your cutter has ever worn out before the feature was done, maybe you missed something. This video will show you an example of roughing and finishing with the same cutter with no finish sacrifice.
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For the last 5 years since I jumped “head first” into learning machine shop, theory and practice I have learned SO much from a number of teachers and KZread creators. One particular attribute stands out though from business owners. Time matters, and more importantly, time is money. One step further, that if you work efficiently, and understand that efficiently also means being mindful of how your tools, cutters and processes are actually doing the work you can maximize all elements and ultimately your bottom line; and achieve the desired outcome. Time IS money, so Joe, when you give us your time I hope that guys appreciate that you could be at home, or with family, or building your business. Instead you give us these lessons, sharing your love of the craft, years of experience and time. I just would like for you to know how much it is appreciated, that you certainly stand out amongst other creators. Thank you as always for your time.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Its flattering comments like this that makes all the time invested, worthwhile. Thanks for taking the time to send it.
I’m a beginner to this and I am finding your videos to be extremely helpful. Thank you.
@joepie221
2 ай бұрын
I've covered a variety of subject matter. if there is something you are looking for, post a question as a new comment. I usually answer.
I feel like these concepts are pure gold for my little baby mill and lathe lol. Your videos are helping me a lot
@joepie221
2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
Joe you changed my line of thinking when you end mill. Till I watched your channel I would have used up my end mill a lot faster. You are definitely bringing me out of some bad habits. Thanks
303 is great. Last year, a zinc casting rotted away. This was part of the faucet from our tub filler. This was a pretty expensive model, and no longer made. No parts available. I had to make the part from 303. Whew. Angular milling, circular table for part, and, well, it was a pain. But replacing the faucet involved another (expensive) faucet, a contractor to remove the tub from the foundation built around it, and replacement. A good estimate of $3,000 to have done. But $20 worth of 303, and many thousands in machinery and cutters, and it was done. My wife thinks I spend too much on this stuff. Nah. I see you have a Bar Z sticker. I just bought the 1200 hardening and tempering oven from him. Good stuff.
Man... I was about to rough out a huge channel in a large block of steel to make a batch of BXA tool holders. I'm so glad I saw this. What a time saver... Thanks Joe!
You're one hell of a teacher! Thanks
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment.
Speaking of cutter management. Do you have any videos about cutter selection? I know its a huge subject. But I bet a guy like you has some great simple ideas for home gamers.
Joe never disappoints ! Pragmatic arguments with a side helping of education.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
Nice. Reminds me of AvE's video on chain drilling to get effectively overlapping holes using a drill. Do every second hole, then do the remaining holes. Since there's equal amount of material missing on both sides, the drill bit has less of a tendency to walk to the side. What he showed was with a CNC and for saving time on cutting a piece in two but the same technique should work for manual predrilling of a slot with a little finesse.
@somebodyelse6673
4 жыл бұрын
Overlapping holes with 2 flute drills has ending in tears for me, more than once. I don't do it any more. 3 flutes, or no overlap.
Great tip Joe! Thanks for all the great content you're sharing.
I'm quick to the keyboard to say "thank you Joe for taking the time to share your experience. You help a lot of people. Not many finer things can be said.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
if ya gotta leave anything behind, knowledge is not a bad choice. thanks for the comment.
Very nice result! Thank you Joe!
That's a unique Clock!
Always great content Joe. Really useful information. Appreciate the effort you put in.
Excellent. Also worth mentioning that using the drill to remove most of the material is transferring the wear onto that tool. Drills are much easier to sharpen than an end mill. Dont need a special grinder or jigs. You can just free hand it on a bench grinder.
@BoldUniverse
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Not the drill Joe was using though, that was a split point drill.
@petermurphy3354
4 жыл бұрын
Good quality drill bits are also cheaper than quality end mills as well, unless you use diamond coated drill bits of course LoL
Hi Joe, thank you very much for the lesson and the professional explanation. Good job 👍
Thanks Joe, that explains a lot. Your tips are invaluable for us novices.
Thanks for the very useful information Joe. I cant wait to apply some of these techniques and get more from my tooling.
As always, thank you for the excellent advice, and clear explanation of why it works.
Excellent video Joe. Been doing it as you teach here but always am eager to learn something new.
I really appreciate your videos, I had a small shop in the mid 1980's, then no machining until now so most is a great refresher and some new stuff. Thanks
Thanks very much. Very useful indeed. I have been using climb milling a lot recently, found it much easier on the cutter.
thanks Joe for another informative video that also saves wear an tear on tools
Thanks again for your time and effort I did indeed learn several new things today !
Brilliant as usual, Joe, many thanks!
As always great instruction Joe thanks.
Your whiteboard technique really helps me understand what you are going to do in the machine. Thank you for these informative videos.
Beautiful job on stainless! well done, thanks for the lesson
Good stuff Joe, thank you, as always.😎
Thanks Joe, always learning from your videos. Hope all are well in your family and friends.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
as always informative practical useful info thanks, Joe.
Thanks for the video Joe.
Once again, a fine example of the art of the machinist! More quick tips please.
I've done chain drilling/milling on CNC before but the plunging is a new trick. I can't wait to try it out.
Thank you so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge. You are incredible at your trade and so much of what you have and how you teach it is so sadly laking in many workshops around the world. I would have loved to have learnt from you when I was an apprentice but I am glad I can still learn now. Thank you again.
He Joe - still the best tips from a man of practice! I always drill and saw the material away befor I mill it. Some guys laught about that. But as I always said "what you drill ya dont need to mill". Keep up the good work and have a nice day!! Greetings from Austria to Austin!
I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
Been doing it that way for 30 years, been so long I don't even remember where I learned that trick but it works so good on hard materials. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks joe. Another excellent tutorial.
Good lesson Joe! Thank you!
Excellent as usual Joe, thanks!
Great info Joe, thanks for sharing. Regards John.
Great demonstration Joe, thanks also for the explanation about the zig zag feeding to help us understand exactly what you did.
Thank you Joe! Started doing CNC programming/setup/machining on a Hurco CNC mill. I asked what was better.... To go to depth and attack it with the side, or take multiple pecks. Well.... I've been taking multiple pecks... So.... I will try going to depth and stepping over and see how that goes. I really appreciate the time you take to teach and share your vast knowledge. Have a good day!
Thanks. I was one of the hundreds of people who sent you email asking about making cuts (big stepover and shallow DOC) versus (small stepover and deep DOC) given the same MRR. This answered the question, and gave me a good slotting technique too. Love your channel - it provides high quality information without a lot of fluff and foo-rah.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
More good stuff Joe! ATB, Robin
learned it X Y, never thought about it, well done Joe.
Love your to the point explanation. No long winded drawn out videos. Cheers Joe....also like seeing how many subs and views you are getting...well Done, PB
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The channel is growing very well. Believe it or not, the occasional spider video has quite an impact. Sorry you non-spider guys have to suffer through them, but they are quite popular. And I'm rarely out of subject matter around here !!
I always thought drilling it first would take to much time! But that was effortless, thanks Sir Joe.
Fantastic easy to understand for this hobbyist noob.Id love to see a video on speeds/feeds,that is my greatest hurdle right now.
Thanks for sharing your valuable insight on machining! Always look 👀 forward to your videos!.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
That clock is awesome :) Thanks again for another great shop lesson Professor Pi.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
I have a video on how it was made. I'm glad I did it. Its a 'feel good' addition to the shop.
Thanks for the explanation.... I have seen you use this technique in several videos during the miniature shop tool / steam engine builds....! Good stuff!!!
@joepie221
2 жыл бұрын
Its a solid technique. Fast too.
Great, practical info. Thanks, Joe! Also - love your test indicator clock - very cool.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
There is a video on my channel of how that was made. You should check it out.
Another great video,Joe.
Thanks Joe
Nice one, Joe! Don't know about you, I can sharpen drills, but not milling cutters, so the "drill start" will save me some cutters! Thanks!!! 🙂
theory and then practical. Great way to teach. Never thought about climbing/diving while making the slot bottom. Learned something new. Thanks and please keep making videos! I learn something every time.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great technique. 👍
Joe right on time with that information
Very cool. I use pluge toolpath a lot in CNC. It´s the best way to clean large volumes of material.
Lots of good information Joe.
Great video, I learned this method in the 80"s, I call it Chomping, has served me well. Keep up the great content.
@joepie221
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
Another MASTER MACHINIST installment - Thanks Joe! 👍😎👍
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
I recently discovered this technique, now I use it all the time, works great! 👍😁👍
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
Very educative. Thank you
Nice Joe, Thanks.
Thanks again Joe!
Very enlightening and I had thoughts about that recently. That's why as a hobbyist I bought cutters on Ali-express with different lengths of the cutting edge. If you don't have to go deep, a shorter cut will suffice. Thanks for the effort that you keep putting in.
Another great video, Joe Pie. I still love the "indicator wall clock" that you built. Keep 'em coming!
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
Hi Joe, Logical explanation at the whiteboard which was backed up with the practical demo at the mill... Enjoyable video... Thank you. Take care Paul,,
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I like starting at the whiteboard if I can. I think it helps.
Great tip, Joe!
Thanks Joe! Your timing is perfect!
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Justin? Glad to help. Hope you are well.
@cameronmccreary7697
3 жыл бұрын
I use alot of roughing, hog endmills then finish with regular milling cutters
Love your tips man. Keep em coming
@joepie221
2 жыл бұрын
You bet.
AWESOME STUFF!
I enjoyed this one. Learned a bunch, Thanks
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
In a word: wonderful.
Thank you Joe for an absolutely fascinating mixture of principles and techniques combined together. Indeed, end mills are not excavators and in a home shop, tool life and optimal tool usage are just as important.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the great video Joe. The more of these I watch, the more I feel the need for a mill to pair with my lathe....
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
They do go perfect together.
Super,,fixing to install Tee slots (for my first time) in a 1/2 thick hot roll plate. Have 4 flute end milks, so that a big plus on perdrilling holes first,,thx Joe for the tip,,Nesr
Great video.Thank you
Climb milling on the finish pass gives a better finish on the side walls. Did this stuff for over 40 years. Speeds and feeds are what give you the best results.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
The 2 finish passes were climb cut. 4 up, and 4 back. I completely agree with your comment.
Saying thousand time thank you will still be not enough. As always absolutely best content 👍 Thank you for sharing
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thanks.
very cool , thanks for the lesson..
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
I just made some parts using this very technique to mill a pocket into a solid piece of steel, I did the drilling first, just like the video shows, I went within .010 of how deep I finally milled the floor of the pocket, did not need to "Z" back'n forth. When doing the finish passes on the sidewalls, I used only light climb (vs.conventional) cuts, made a very clean sidewall.
WOW ! Now I understand what a zig zag cut is. Thanks Joe
Ok, what the heck was he doing in my shop this last weekend! I was attempting to mill the shank of an old tool holder and managed to take the edge of a couple of mill cutters because 1) I'm self taught, listen to Joe and Adam and Tom and Marc and Mr. Pete to try and learn how to do this. Thank you Joe for this, to me, timely video. (Now I'm looking into how to get some tools reground. )
Thanks joe
I have never even turned on a mill or lathe and I enjoy watching every video. I have been a software developer for 35 years and I enjoy seeing how logic is applied whether in code or in milling or other trades. Maybe one day I will get a machine and give some of my logic a try. Thanks for the great videos I have learned a ton.
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Keeping your attention for that reason is a compliment. Thanks for watching.
Wow, that's the first time you've done a video that I actually do the same thing for the same reasons. I've got a cheap Chinese mill/drill and a drill vice but that method works with even a less rigid set up.like mine
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
Note carefully at 6:15 when Joe changes tools and can subsequently make a much heavier cut.
Yeeper's, all about saving ware on costly end mills,,,great to know tip's Joe,,thx. The few I have are under lock and key,,One thing I did on cutting in the Hexagon & Octagon features on an indexer I am making, was to cut the flats with a small fly cutter (recently last wk), and may have been beginners luck, but when I checked depth of cut's, the Joe block rang to the surface. I only took 0.005 cut's and finial @ 0.0005...and results were mirror finish. This vid was most helpful Joe,,,Bear
@joepie221
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
Great stuff Joe - thanks :)
Exactly how I would have done a deep slot like that. A lot of times when I'm doing a keyway for example that's not at the end of the part, I'll just plunge straight down on my end points and step over with my center cutting, undersized roughing endmill. Then do a full depth cut to size with a finishing endmill that I only use on keys. Cool video thanks for sharing!
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
Love that clock it was good to watch you make it
@joepie221
4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to do that and finally did. The project was fun. Thanks.
Another Good ONE....! Can't believe 10,000 views already, and 1200 thumbs up..... Keep them coming....!
Thanks again sir
I've killed more endmills by trying to baby them, specifically in 300 series stainless, than i have by taking deeper cuts with a smaller step over. It's a real logic trap for the newer crew...