That is a beautiful place. I can see a Hallmark Movie being made there. The barn is so Awesome. I’m surprised the little Tractor pulls those mowers but it does a great job. A pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing.

I have a 30 year old version of this woods bat-wing grooming mower.....I have consistently mowed 8 plus acres of lawn every week ......have even given it some abuse over the years mowing grass much too tall.....and it never fails to impress. Definitely got my money's worth😆

You're so right about the cut quality. I only have a 1023 with the frontier gm1048e, but I thoroughly enjoy mowing with that setup.

Your neighbors have a beautiful place, and the old barn sure brings back memories. The results are impressive and great work on the video work and voice over. Blessings.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty close to you as well :-)

Tim I love the barn. It looks similar to the one of my dad's. We raised a lot of hogs out of that barn. I wish I could go back in time.

Enjoyed the video, the two step process made the difference…I always like mowing particularly in an open area!!

As an ex-lawn management company owner my recommendation would have been a double cut with the finish mower and triple cut on the grass where you had not mowed with the brush hog. We would have considered this a “new season” yard and would have charged 2x to 3x regular cut prices. Your friend is getting a great deal!

@markpaas

2 жыл бұрын

How would you charge/bid something like this? Price per square yard?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure, honestly. This was ‘free’ for a friend. However, I would likely think in terms of hours and what equipment is used. Likely $500 or more per mowing to make any money.

@markpaas

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe “cruise ship for me” can tell us😃

@cruiseshipforme4546

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpaas I would have to walk the field but my SWAG price would have started at $500/cut. These types of jobs are not desirable because it takes to much time. You reach a point of diminishing returns where it is more profitable to cut small yards when clients are grouped together than a couple of big cuts like this which in my case would have been commercial accounts. I just gave a high estimate last summer to a client when I thought about starting up again. Thankfully they passed. I could have had the boys do 20 yards in a day and made $1300 instead of the $450 I quoted. Dodged a bullet on that one!

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect I was too low in my initial estimate…but $900 or so per trip would definitely be profitable for me.

I mowed out an old neglected hay field down the road from our farm for a realtor that was trying to market it as a farm which it was for many years until the owners got sick and eventually passed. I mowed it 3 weeks in a row with my batwing and then the fourth time with my finish mower. it looked really good. it was weekly mowings with the finish until sold and the new owners loved it. it was nice to see it return to a farm the new owners put some 4h calves and sheep on it after they built a fence.

Always love your implements you use, I tease my brother and call him Tim where he has so many implements for his 1025R lol that’s why I purchased a new 1025R that way I can use his implements and save me some money lol

The turf mower did a very nice job on the field!

Great finish, Tim. Praise the greatness of our God! Keep on!

Great video Tim! Love the comparison side by side.

Tim I have to agree the woods mowers do a fantastic job.

Awesome vid once again. Good looking lawn. 🤠

Looks like a lawn to me!! Nice!!!

Looks great Tim. Hope you Christy and family had a wonderful Independence Day!

Good morning , God bless you & thank you for sharing .

Great video as always!! That looks like a yard I would say did a good job. I have a 6ft befco finish mower is prolly 12 or 14 years old it still makes prettiest yard I've ever saw an it will cut the taller stuff but I usually don't. Be interesting if you happen to run across one to compare with others. Thanks for sharing be safe have fun

It looks really great!

Was looking forward to this. I mow about 15 acres of old pasture. Too many weeds and tough grasses to use this as a single pass solution. Would not have known this otherwise. Interesting that the very fast blades did not do better for tough weeds. I also thought that dried grass would disappear. Really appreciate what you do. I also admire some of you skills. You make some things look so easy that I know are not. Maybe it is really good editing? Best wishes to both of you.

Looks fantastic.

Looks great!

Nice work Tim. I have Really been enjoying the 3046R and your new batwing content. I really hope to see more. I love my batwing finish mower. I hope woods will send you some of there optional accessories to demonstrate on your batwing. Like front scalp rollers, chains, mulch kits. Etc etc. I have most of those options on mine. I just would love to see your take on them, especially the mulch kit. Keep up the great work TTWT Fam !!!.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I now have some accessories…but not the mulch kit.

Nice video tim and you see de different in mowing really good 👌👍

Tim I have a king kutter 6ft. turf mower that's what I mow my lawn with and it does a great job I think yours did a great job to.

That's impressive for a pull type bat-wing mower with the 18k fpm tip speeds which is really equivalent to a Zero Turn mower deck but here you got 3 of them in tow. Looks like it'd be too much mower for my 1025R so I'll have to keep putting on the miles with my Zero Turn on 4+ acres. Mowing the 1/3 rule, I bet it'd be awesome cut quality for large lawns.

Very nice looking job well done ..

I mow my fields with a JD4720 and 7 ft land pride FDR2584 finish mower once a month in the summer, it handles the tall grass amazingly well been mowing this way for 17 years, love to try one of these out to see how it would handle the fields

Yes it looks pretty good.

It looks good Tim

what a nice rig! But its not only about the tractor, that barn is such a nice looking party location, makes me kinda jealous. 😅

You should look into the Trimax Snake S2 mower if you want to see an amazing cut on a wide area. Great video.

Great video Tim .I mow about 8 Acres of field for the first cut of the season I like to Use the Bush hog Wait about 3 days then I will use my 0 turn mower just a little bit above what I cut it on the Bush hog and that will pick up the cut grass and cut it a lot finer not Leaving clumps of grass everywhere

I would say yes, it looks as good as a yard.

I used to run a similar setup with a cabbed JD 5510 with turf tires

What a cool place for a party

So interesting

Very nice property

looks great to me.

Hey Tim, I love your videos keep them coming! You have inspired me to get a 2038R of my own. I have been playing with it for about a month now. You should try to run the woods finish mower behind Johnny 2! I would love to get a 10ft wing finish mower for mine but I’m curious of how it would handle it. Thank you for all your videos and the great content!

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! The Woods TBW12.20 is a 12' mower. I'm happy to try it on the 2038R. However, based on my experience in heavy grass with the 3046R (did you see it?) I'm afraid the 2038R will have quite a load with it. This time of year (late summer), when the grass is less thick, there will be no issue.

I use the 15ft woods batwing mower. So much more efficient than running 3 zero turn mowers. Fuel and time are a big advantage

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Good quality too!

Can’t wait for the dyno test. Like any mower. If you were slower, it should cut better. Just my thinkin.

Great comparison, a double cut or a third cut as another viewer suggests would probably be a good idea... Have a great week

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I tried a strip or two with a second cut that same day. No apparent difference.

With all the cuttings, you’ll need to run over all the cut grass 3-4 times. It’s the same as mowing a yard with a zero turn and wanting to eliminate any cuttings.

Looks nice Tim. Mowing Our 12 acre fields around the farm house. I've found mowing them a week before the 3 summer holidays Memorial day 4th and labor day. It's easier on tractor mower and burns less fuel. Fields have a finished lawn look! Little rain will green everything up nicely. Isn't that mowing the home owner model? Maybe not as heavy as their RD models.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is the "Estate" model, a bit less expensive than the commercial model.

That looks like a golf course.

@TractorTimewithTim

Ай бұрын

It really did look nice for only 2 mowings…just a few days apart.

You seem really comfortable on the 3046R. I'm considering upgrading my Kubota B2650 to a L3902. I love the 2650 for its capabilities as well as its nimbleness. I believe the L3902 will offer more capability with slightly less nimbleness. What I am looking for is more tractor heft (weight, hp & strength). Really like the L3560 features but the tractor is too big for what I want nor do I find the seating position very comfortable.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Consider the 3046r. It is physically the smallest and most nimble 45 hp tractor on the market. Turning radius amazing. It isn’t perfect, but it is a special machine.

I like the quality of the RhinoAg equipment. Really have to hunt it down in my neck of the woods though. Priced at a premium but it’s worth it the build quality.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Rhino stuff is extra heavy and tough!

Nice

Thumbs up .

Hey Tim, really enjoy your videos they’re so well put together. I heard you mention that you have rim guard in your tires, I also cut most of my grass with a 3046r and 3pt finish mower. I thought that keeping the tractor as light as possible may help with the cut quality behind the tractor tracks but you don’t seem too have any issues with it? A lot of my 15 acres is also uneven so the rim guard would help the ride quality too

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing a ‘light’ tractor helps with is less ‘ruts’ in early spring. Not only do I have Rimguard, I also have wheel weights. More weight makes your tractor more useful.

It would be interesting to see a mulching kit on a mower like that... closed deck with mulching blades. It might need some additional baffles inside to increase the vacuum lifting affect... Maybe a "MowerX" in the future? 😉

@jdfleetguy28

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 17ft version of a very similar woods/frontier version. I had to go through a woods dealer to get my mulch kit or I should say the baffles. I got the mulch blades frame my dear dealer. The mulch blades alone were horrible , had to add the baffle/block off kit to make it work properly. I did cure my clippings issues and I do have a very nice cut quality. The only down side I seen, has been that I think I have still lost some lift. My tractor is heavy and since adding the complete mulch kit this season. I now have issues where the tractor ties press down the grass , and the mulch blades just simply don’t generate the lift the original blades had and it leaves a bit of a high spot wherever the tractor tires pressed it down. I solve that by over lapping to the cover one of tire tracks a second time. At 17ft wide it only adds 20 - 30 min to my mowing time. Where before with stock Oem blades and rear discharge same as Tim’s, I would typically have to mow it then mow it again crossing it up, just to dissipate the clippings. Which to do that took an extra 1.5 hours to mow it twice. By far the much kit has been a big plus, I think I just need to try some different blades with more lift. I think I may put my original blades on in combination with mulching baffle kits and see how that works together.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Good feedback. I have found that rear discharge decks typically have poor ‘lift’. However, this one is great (without the mulch kit).

@jdfleetguy28

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Yea, mine had better lift without the much kit, however it would leave a mess of clippings and I would end up mowing twice to disburse all the clippings at least somewhat. I do prefer the cleaner mulch kit cutting as far as very minimal clippings. Now I find I am missing the lift I use to have for more even cut even where the tractor tires mashed down the grass ahead of the mower. I think I may leave the mulch shrouds on and put the old original blades back on.

You are going to make a lot of dust !! Just close the doors on the barn

It doesn't look like a barn yard any more. I wonder what it would look like if it was mowed the opposite direction 180° around... try that at home... have a great weekend.....

Would a mulch kit or rear chains helped on the 2nd cutting ? Would be interesting to see you use this mower with a mulch kit and see what results you get.

"CLIP RATE" makes a huge difference in cut quality. Clip-Rate is the blade speed to ground speed.

Very nice showing of the batwing mower. The cut does look good especially at roughly 5-6 mph. I would imagine it’s Batman approved too! Lol Will look forward to Johnny x on the dyno. I’ll guess 33-35 pto hp. 👍

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

We saw 32 PTO hp the first time we ran it.

@lcee6592

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim That’s very impressive!!

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

We have a video of the test in our Johnny X playlist. Check it out!

Pull the bat wing with a 4066R with a cab, not as load and ac in the cab. Makes even a better cut!

All the videos are edited so well...this one somehow just stands out for being especially so. Everything just looks so professionally seamless...how many hours did that take?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Felipe, are you trying to make me feel good about my editing? Christy. It said it took about 3 hours. I didn’t go because I was editing another video.

@FelipeColby

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim You should feel good, a good job done deserves some good feelings. And a great video isn't great without great editing.

I am not sure I am as impressed as you are on the overall cut quality here. I think your ZTR might do better as a finish mower. Keep up the good work sir. 😁👍

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Ztr would be fine…but I would not have been able to ‘stay on’ it due to the rough ride. This field was rough! The tractor and this deck masked that.

Personally as a salesman and an owner of both a batwing bushog and 17 foot finish mower I call refer to them as a turf-wing

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Bat wing is copyrighted by Woods. So I can’t call my Rhino flex wing a ‘bat wing’

@edwardhogan8197

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim I totally get that. I catch myself calling John Deeres flex wing cutters BatWings and do get corrected. I just think the name TurfWing sounds cool since Woods calls their flex wing cutters Batwing mowers. I have a BW15.50 and love it.

Looks like the center deck really accumulates a lot of clippings! Wonder if a shield could be made to divert them, but I guess if they're dry you can blow them off easily with a leaf blower. I made the mistake of leaving wet clippings on the deck of my Woods RD990-X and it rusted it - never again!

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. Most of them fall off when it is folded (raised)…but some stay on.

@n206ja

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Duh! I forgot that I would be normally raising the deck before pulling into my metal building! When I get my TBW12.20, guess I'll just have to remember to raise the decks in an area where I don't care about a pile of cut grass falling off!

I wonder how this would compare to a Golf Course Fairway Reel type mower. Thanks Tim..

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe we’ll get to try one sometime!

I would like to see u use the bigger verse the tbw17.40. I'm looking into buying this to use when I mow scales and rest area where I work and in charge of mowing.

@TractorTimewithTim

Жыл бұрын

The commercial one would be even better. You will be amazed!

Hey Tim: had a question about transporting these bat wing style mowers. I realize the outer decks pivot up, but doesnt that make it too heave to lift when loading it on a trailer? Id love to see how you get them on and off a goose neck trailer.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I just drive it up there. Hooked to the tractor. I’m not sure I understand your question. Both mowers fold to less than 96” travel width.

If you wanted to mow the portion away from the lane and barn at a taller height can you easily change the mower’s setting?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Each of the twelve gauge wheels has collars to adjust height. So, 12 separate adjustments.

Have you Tried this mower with your LX3310 ? I have the LX and mow 18 acres weekly right now and have been looking for some options ?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it would work well in heavy grass…it pulled the 3046r pretty hard in the early spring. Did you see that episode? It would work fine in late summer grass. I would consider stepping up to L4701 or L4060.

check out agromehanika agt 860 an a ion 160 or 190.

Before you mentioned that a dealer brought your TBW mower out as a demo. I've been trying to do the same, get a demo to see if it will work for me on a property that has side hills. I believe we live close to each other so I was curious which dealer brought it out as a demo for you.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Where are you, Ryan?

@ryane2047

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Marengo, IL

Hey Tim, I've got 3 acres of lawn. Formerly a hay field. Had some low spots that I've installed field tile over the last 35 years. The property drains nicely but with all of the work I've done here over the many years it sure is awfully rough. Any good way to smooth it out? I have only a 1023.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

The only ways I know are to add soil, or till and smooth then reseed.

@paulbianchi1567

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think a tiller attachment on my little tractor could cut through the sod? Most areas I don't think I'd have to go more than 3".

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulbianchi1567 oh yea. A 4’ rear tiller would cut through it.

@paulbianchi1567

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim. Enjoy your videos, keep em coming.

Come to the south and cut Bahia, It is called The Devil’s Grass for a reason.

The Woods RD990X wouldnha e been a good choice to do the whole job in one cut

What's the total cut width on the woods batwing finish mower...?

I like to mow diagonally on my second cut, ever try it?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, at home we cut diagonally. Crosswise was working well here.

Can you add more wheel weights and Still put air in the tire?

@TractorTimewithTim

Жыл бұрын

a bit hard to get to the valve stem. Not sure if it would still be accessible with more weights or not.

What mower used more fuel ? 1st cut or 2nd cut?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Dunno. Probably first cut as it was 10’ mower. It took longer than the 12’ mower

It makes you wonder if they are goina start opening this as a wedding venue? Seems like a lot of trouble for just a graduation party but all these people will be having their "first" wedding soon. :) My wife and I were married in 1986 after dating through college. People ask what's the secret to staying married? I just say I'm not making that mistake again as she rolls her eyes. The not so secret tip is pray that God will send you the person you should be with and He will. She was doing the same thing but I still think God liked me best !

Have you tried KUHN, or Swisher, brand mower?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet.

Id like to have a 72 in Flail Mower.!!! With Y Blades.! Instead of the 72 in rear mower i use.!

@TractorTimewithTim

9 ай бұрын

I dunno. I’m not really seeing the point of the flail mowers.

Hi Tim, what are mowing specs on this attachment? How much is the cost? What speed were you able to run the finish mowers?

@Scott-cu4ol

2 жыл бұрын

I’m interested also in cost. i just bought a 8’ Del marino finish mower. wonder if this would have been a better investment

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I discussed the speed in the video.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I think this one is in the $16k range. Not cheap.

@Scott-cu4ol

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you. yes that’s over double my 8’ Del Marino but if money was no object it would be worth it.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, this mower has more gearboxes and shafts as well as more decks, frame, etc. oh, and the hydraulic fold. Definitely more complex/expensive.

Would it cut better at say 3 miles per hour?

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

discussed in the video.

Should close the barn doors???

now i like u reading the verse out loud a lot. I could follow it real good. thanks for that-ok.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, Jim. Haven't heard from you in awhile. Thanks for the encouraging words.

@bigjim5723

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim been in the pital twice now. had my prostate done and then started passing blood clots, so dr went back up inside and burnt the ends off that was bleeding. back home for now with a cather still in for a while. glad to hear from uns too.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjim5723 ugh. That doesn’t sound fun at all! Glad you are doing better!

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjim5723 ugh. That doesn’t sound fun at all! Glad you are doing better!

I forgot to mention that we would have crosscut the field. 90 degree directional change with each pass.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

keep watching. this IS a cross-cut pass.

I've come across one of these mowers about a year old someone wants to sell, at a good price, do you think a 40 hp tractor will pull it ok. I have a couple pretty good hills in one field I'lll be cutting with it. Thanks

@TractorTimewithTim

Жыл бұрын

You can check out all of our videos with it. We show it in several conditions…cept for hills….on several different tractors.

@johnezell1366

Жыл бұрын

I have watched, I just figured since you had ran with the different tractors you would have a good opinion. Thanks

Can the 2038 handle the flex wing finish mower.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried it yet. It would handle it in light grass, but watch our earlier video showing the 3046r with it in heavy grass. No way the 2038r would have handled it there.

No you need an 8 foot wide roller

Could a 3520 run the TS10? (I just bought one last week)

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

yes.

If you would mow slower it will cut why better try it

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Discussed in the video.

Why is it so that nobody knows how to mow tall grass? always start mowing on your highs setting on your mower. then lower your mower again so you're not making windrows. do this over and over until you get to the height you are seeking.

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Uh, I think we did pretty much that. I certainly don’t think we deserved that condescending comment.

@allenclor2910

2 жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim i am sorry that you felt that it was condescending comment

My 61 inch O turn does better.....the blade speed is important....your machine is overrated

@TractorTimewithTim

2 жыл бұрын

Blah blah blah.