Thank you for all the wonderful footage. What a surprise to see the Avro Jet Liner. All that is left now is the nose section.

Pretty much my favourite era for aircraft!

What fantastic content. Before I was injured I was a photographer, and I had the time of my life at Oshkosh(1990). Thank you.

I am From Farnborough and proud to see this History being made in my home town!

can you imagine how fucking awesome something like this would have been back in the day, everything is pretty much in your face nowadays, its hard not to know of something for longer than a week until its hated because of how popular and seen it is.

@nocnafuria57 The plane at 5.20 is a Blackburn Beverley transport. Nowadays there is only one left intact at some theme park near Hull in Yorkshire. I am sure Google will give more information.

Simply awesome. Thanks so much for the upload.

These are great videos you have posted. The history is priceless!

Really good video lovely to see this footage.

aeomaster: There is no Avro Jetliner here. It's an Avro Ashton. The Farnborough Airshow was only open to British built aircraft in those days. The Jetliner was Canadian.

Great video, was excellent seeing the Canberra swooping in at 1:10 - fantastic!

You are correct, thanks! The one I was thinking of had a tail wheel

i love how funny the people talked back then... great footage though!

Note: 1) 1 of only 2 Armstrong Whitworth Apollos at 3.14, behind the Beverley. Lost out to the superior Vickers Viscount. 2) Vickers Viking in foreground at 4.09 and Airspeed Ambassador next to it. 3) Supermarine Type 535 (forerunner to the Swift)at 4.17. The Swift briefly held world's airspeed record at 735 mph. Those were the days! I was there in '52. Hunter, Swift and DH-110 intentionally aimed supersonic bangs at the spectators. Bloody marvellous.

O Gloster Meteor F8 viria a ser comprado pelo Brasil em 1952..e voou até 1970

Ahem - 2 errors by the commentator: 1) The anti-submarine aircraft at 0.57 to 1.03 was a Blackburn YB1, not the Fairey 17 (later called Gannet). The Blackburn submission lost out to the Gannet, an example of which you can see at 3.18. 2) At 0.47, he refers to the Viscount as a turbojet airliner. Turboprop of course. Damn media people!

This must have been the best air show ever.

awesome

@Gruntol5 And the fuselage of that aeroplane still survives at Newark Aviation Museum in Nottighamshire, England.

Actually it's an Avro Ashton (Avro type 706). It was developped from the piston-engined Avro Tudor, but had 4 Rolls Royce Nene centrifugal turbojets. There was even a testbed version with 2 Bristol Olympus engines as well (6 engines!). Look it up in wikipedia.

You are quite correct - it's a Varsity. Viking was a tail sitter. I had 5 trips to Malta and back in an Eagle Airways Viking - you'd think I would know better - 9 hours of pounding Bristol Hercules just a few feet away from you! Was the Ashton in "Cone of Silence?" I have never seen it. I was there on Saturday, the day before DH-110 disintegrated. We heard it on the "wireless" the next day. Very shocking.

A great pilot was Janusz Zerakowski. His amazing stunt to show off the meteor was to put it in a vertical climb, shut down both engines and at the point of stall, put full thrust on just one engine. The result was a cartwheel. So reveared was he by his adopted country Canada, that they minted a coin with his head and named a space research establishment after him. He was test pilot for the Avro Arrow. Took his kids to school across a lake in a jet powered boat. Bet that impressed their chums!

I was there!

thanks for the quick answer..couldn't understand what the commentator was saying :)

exelent!!!

No, the problem was that lacking the giant American internal market they were too dependent on selling to the government-owned flag carrier airlines. The VC-7 was cancelled because BOAC claimed that turboprops were good enough (only for BOAC to later buy Boeing 707s) and the Trident was built specifically to the requirements of BEA, which made it too small to compete with the Boeing 727.

@ijolite : I finally got to see "Cone of Silence" recently, having bought a copy on eBay - all the way from Australia! It was good to see the Avro Ashton testbed in action, but the idea that a jet airliner would have 2 different types of engine (from different manufacturers) mounted in different ways on the wings is laughable! Anyway - piece of aeronautical history.

No public air show this year at Farnborough. ☹

cunningham hated his nickname of "cats eyes" however it was a WW2 cover story for his aeroplane having radar ;) another british subterfuge was carrots help you see in the dark. also to hide radar guided night fighters.

Very nice video ! What is the aircraft at 2:44 ? Looks like a DC-6, but I'm not sure of it. Thanks a lot :)

@cheshire_pubs6248

6 жыл бұрын

Handley-Page Hermes 5 G-ALEV

@jerseybean59

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Handley Page Hermes HP81 IV

whats the name of the big plane at 0:50 ??

problem49: " had no idea that was ever displayed at Farnborough." It wasn't! See above and below.

2:03 - What aircraft is that!?? - looks like a prop airframe retro fitted with 4 jets?

What is the plane at 2:51?

What's called plane at 5:20?

market segment and co-operation with each other was something that was forced on to them as part of the original EEC agreement. And even prior to that there was already pooling of resources occurring well before the airbus project came along. And again it's not true American airlines preferred to purchase exclusively from American manufactures. The Viscount in particular, Dove, Short Skyvan and derivatives, HS748, Fokker Friendship all sold in substantial numbers to American airlines

Actually, the Nissan factory in Sunderland (to give one example) is the most efficient in Europe. The demise of most of the British car BRANDS is more down to Britain's weakness in management. This weakness is the price Britain paid for being the first country to industrialize -- our industry was largely run by gentleman amateurs (and accountants -- people not noted for far-sightedness), but foreigners responded with trained professional managers.

What is that 8 engined monster at 2:00 ?? Looks like jet engines.

@donnyab It certainly didn't help. Even after they cured the stuctural problems the Comet was too small and too slow to compete with the 707 and what came later.

Good point on the US war-surplus transports -- for example, I believe they are the main reason why almost all non-Communist countries came to measure altitude in feet rather than metres.

Groucho @ 1:09 :D

Comet, nuff said.

Ah, must be the Brabazon, can't see the props when she's in that shot.

Don't forget Vickers Viscount, BAC 111, Jetstream, Hawk, Harrier, HS-125, Airbus (various)- all of which the yanks bought, because they were the best for the job.

It's not "socialism and labor" that's strangling British industry, but government policies designed for the benefit of financiers and "the City" (the British equivalent of "Wall Street"). Austerity policies designed to preserve Britains AAA credit rating are the contemporary example, while in earlier decades it was an obsession with maintaining the value of the pound. An overvalued currency benefits financiers, makes our industry incapable of competing with foreigners.

British manufacturers were also competing with a glut of cheap war surplus transports on the market and there was very little hard currency available in Britain to purchase the new more expensive transports then coming on to the market. As for your claim that the British aircraft industry only became competitive with the advent of the Airbus program, that's not true at all. The airbus program basically came about because British and European manufactures were all essentially chasing the same....

Another problem was that British aircraft manufacturers were less efficient than American, as the threat of Luftwaffe bombing raids had forced Britain to disperse its manufacturing among lots of small factories.

In two years the bowling Boeing company built 100 707s in the same time span the British aircraft indußty would hàve had 200 committee meeting 3 strikes and produced 20 aircraft

@kazsmaz

5 жыл бұрын

this is 1950. Not 1958.

He xoio - its a Avro Ashton

You make a lot of claims which simply aren't backed up by historical fact. Firstly the reason America's aircraft industry was more advanced at the end of WW2 was because in the early stages of the war Britain came to an agreement with America that it would concentrate on building fighter and bomber aircraft and America would concentrate on building transports which meant at the end of WW2, America was well ahead of Britain in the design stakes when it came to transport aircraft. Furthermore, ..

Lovely film, interesting era. Nice too not to have American music plastered over it!

britain lead the way in aviation canberra comet concorde to name but a few,no more to be said.

British and European manufacturers couldn't really compete with the United States, both because of the vast internal market enjoyed by US airliner manufacturers (and note that most US airliners actively PREFERRED their own national products) and because of American military spending (the 707 no doubt took advantage of B-47 and B-52 research). They were only really able to compete again when they combined their national industries into the pan-European Airbus.

Too bad about the Trident, neat airplane. I have no reservations about flying on any British airplane, they build good stuff. I will not,however, fly on a Scarebus. I know too many A&P mecanics who work on Airbus who also refuse to fly on one. From the skin thickness to the wiring and electrical system,to the flight control system and so on are not up to the qulity of Boeing. And have you noticed when a Scarebus crashes it is ALWAYS the flight crew's fault.

your barking up the wrong tree mate.

Sorry, not correct. Measuring altitude in feet has always been the agreed international standard - as is knots (or nautical miles) the standard unit for measuring speed and distance on the sea - including all non Western nations since the 1920s. A glut of war surplus US built transports on the market had absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, with the exception of height, aviation right from the early days, mostly adopted and continues to use nautical terms, measurements and definitions

@artieroo Very simple-socialism + labor unions.

Actually the Comet may have put a dent in the early sales of the US jets but for it's problems. The 707 was the spawn of the KC-135 which was developed at the same time as the B-47 and B-52. It became painfully obvious the KC-97 couldn't service the jet bombers early on in the program thus the KC-135 was born. The 707 prototype, the Dash-80 came directly from the KC-135 program. Socialism and labor are still strangling UK's businesses.

The poor British still hanging on to dreams from yesteryear, although the Canberra Bomber went on to excellent service in combat rolls well into the Vietnam War and beyond. The RAF and British designers was no match up against the likes of Boeing, McDonnell Douglas and the rest. The Americans built them to last and coming from WW2 still lead the world in combat aircraft.

Nz

The only beauty is the Seafury. The rest was farted in a night of a thunderstorm...

Actually British industry was NEVER really internationally competitive in the 20th century. It's "successes" were largely based on captive colonial markets, so it isn't surprising that the end of the Empire also led to Britain's industrial decline.

everybody knows brits are responsible for some of the ugliest flying contraptions out there, but THIS ?!? 2:03 ugh...this thing literally hurts my eyes!!

@danniepushkin5849

3 жыл бұрын

@John Higgins if everybody used that exuse, there wouldn't be mig-25 or Sr-71

Man, I thought USSR planes were the ugliest, till I saw this film !