The Victor is a GORGEOUS looking aircraft!!! One actually flew, just a few weeks ago, by mistake! During a fast taxi run a communication misunderstanding between the Captain and First Officer meant the latter didn't kill the throttles when he should, and the thing got airborne. Only a few hundred yards but, 3rd May 2009. The last ever flight of a Victor? Damn shame we can't have one back in the air again alongside the Vulcan!!!!

Handley-Page Victor.....One of the meanest looking aircraft ever made.

@jackthebassman1

2 жыл бұрын

It had a menacing elegance.

Fantastic news reel footage - I have never seen this.......Lots of great footage like this was thrown out, thanks for saving it and bringing it to KZread........more please !

The Victor is beautifully menacing!

Thanks for posting this educational post. Makes me apreaciate the world we have today, thanks to the dedication of those before us to avert a nucliar exchange. Those were dangerouse times.

The Victor, Valiant and Vulcan were a sight to see in the air. I was on the beach at Southsea, Hampshire, England when one of each unexpectedly flew overhead in formation at low altitude from the north, towards the Isle of Wight. What a sight and sound it was! It was either the late 50's or very early 60's I think. Maybe it was their last flight before they were all discontinued. Magic!

@bluesrocker91

7 жыл бұрын

1Davo2 Well, the Vulcans continued in service until 1982, and the Victors (as tankers) until 1993...

I had never seen this thank you it looks awesome.

Neat looking aircraft, I never knew about this one, thanks for posting the video.

Love the music! so dramatic and typical of that time, also the way people spoke in those days makes me laugh.

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

It's called MilHype-ese.

Love the camo paint job on the Victors. Great looking jet!

There is only one complete Valient airframe left in existance - it is as Cosford Museum in the West Mids. Obviously it will never fly again ...

Great stuff!

Mhy Grandad worked on these at Wickering (I think thats how it's spelt). Thank you for this little piece of history. :)

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

Wittering.

@mickeydiver17

4 жыл бұрын

@@RogerBarraud Correct. My Dad worked on Blue Steel missiles in South Australia (4 JSTU) RAAF Edinburgh, then 4 years at RAF Wittering on Victors. Klaxons on every street corner going off at 2am in the morning.

@SmanoaklandfanCOD, Yeah, I saw one when I was stationed at RAF Lakenheath in 1991 in Mildenhall during Air-fete. I will never forget that sight (and sound) as long as I live. Truly, one of the greatest bombers of all time. Such a beautiful aircraft.

All three in the white and silver finishes,we're so beautiful!

Fantastic! My Dad flew in Victors from Wittering during this time - I expect he knows some of the faces on the video!

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

Please ask him before it's too late - and if you can, get his memories of those days on video.

Yes my good man, I am aware of this... but the sad thing is that I don't know if I would be able to see it while living in the U.S. Hmm maybe our Oshkosh show would have it?

One thing to add here is that pre-Blair spin was in operation; Blue steel was actually an American design. It was withdrawn due to Americans making it obsolete (Polaris). The weapon was so large it would not fit into any bomb bay. HP had made their bomb bay even larger than Avro did with the Vulcan, but it still wouldn't fit. And had to be semi-recessed.

the victor was, at the time the biggest aricraft to have ever broken the sound barrier too....

Victor with blue steel, is one of the slickest planes EVER

ace video, top stuff

Woah... dude, thank you! Learn something every day! Hey, ever see an Avro Vulcan? I only once got to see it at the SAC museum in Nebraska, and I must say... those Brits made some kickazz planes!

Holy cow, this is the first time I heard of this Sperrin... and I like it! Dang it seems like its bomb-bay is HUGE! Yep, definately an azzkicker! (I gotta read into this thing more!) Thank you for your post!

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

Probably because of the Bubble that was and is US 'news'. Propaganda and disinfo.

@cnfuzz

4 жыл бұрын

Short sperrin was a dodo , payload and range is what counted for bombers in the 50s

The Valiant was an older design which led to the idea of creating the V Bombers. The Vulcan was the most popular although a former V Bomber/test pilot said that the Victor was the best one to fly. They were good in their day, same as most other planes. Re mention of the English Electric Lightning. It was a pure and simple interceptor, but what a plane. Faster than any other interceptors of the time and faster than most of the modern fighters. During an intercept trial the Lightnings had to line up against other nations leading fighters including the best that the U.S., had then. The test was to attempt to catch a Concorde already travelling at max speed, from a cold start. Not only was the Lightning the only one to catch Concorde. It actually overtook it!

the last figure that i heard was double that amount, £62m......an expensive bit of kit! i still love the way the victor looks, it was so ahead of it's time.

Those victors and valiants cost several hundred thousand pounds each.That today would only buy a set of raptor wheels. How times have change.

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

Or 6 months of Burger King for the flight crew and logistics staff :-)

I love Victor (the plane hehe) still now looks even futuristic

Valiants and Victors, electric lightning and the Concorde all made in the 50's/60's was it me or do they all look much more futuristic than the 50's/60's ?. And no other nation has perfected such futuristic planes since then. Proud to be British :)

Awesome, wish I got to see some of the classic cold war jets flying in service.

The wing spa fatigue in the Valient was because it was stressed for high altitude. Vickers also produced a low altidude variant, the B2. The government decided to buy the high altitude version. Garry Powers got shot down in his U2, so the High Altitude Valients were switched to low altitude exercises - in a plane not stressed for low altitude ^_^ There was nothing wrong with the plane or design, it was just abused.

@RogerBarraud

5 жыл бұрын

*Spar*. And, {{citation needed}}.

Is there a flying Valiant anywhere in the world? To see one would be simply amazing. What a great jet.

fantastic!!!! we need a flight of all the V bombers,,, that would be sooo nice!!

Valiant was an interine plane, it was buit because the other two, Vulcan and Victor were so advanced in their design that british were fearing that both planes became a failure, and because of that, would have been without a strategic bomber

Did Valiant or Victor have a distinctive howl or was that purely a Vulcan trick?

damn straight, how good would it be to have the victor and the vulcan flying together again, and a lightning now what a sight that would be, just like the BBMF flight there should be a cold war flight, victor, vulcan and lightning.

If you look back, I was correcting another poster who thought he heard "seven", rather than contradicting the newsreel announcer's "several". Hence my dig at the chap's accent.

I believe all Valiants where retired early due to a structual problem.

@cglees

3 жыл бұрын

They were designed for high altitude but when the tactic changed to low level flight they were not up to the stress and strain on the airframe

Amazing that some people don't have a sense of humour and have to take everything so seriously! This is a fine example of why Dutch humour is considered the finest in the Benelux region! (Assuming you ARE Dutch?)

Why is this cropped? What is the Copyright (C) date on the film?

0:58 what are rocket-missiles? I suppose its what they carried along with their bomb-explosives and gun-shooters?

Handley Page Victor looks similar to the Russian ekranoplane. Totally a magnificant airplane.

british aircraft are always so unique looking

@edj66: Money spent for deterrence of a war is NEVER wasted. If a weapons system is not used, did it fail? Or did it succeed spectacularly in deterring the aggression?

@unfurling3129

5 жыл бұрын

True only if the threat is real

The best british cold war jets were the canberra ( licensed by us martin) the hawker hunter and the harrier , the rest was meeh , british had the engines but the french had the export succes

Great video! With the Hughes H-1 a close second, the HPV is (in my humble opinion) the most beautiful aircraft ever built. In those days the British made the best aircraft. What happened?

@unfurling3129

5 жыл бұрын

Globalism happened - the designed push towards less & less choice, independence & wellbeing - all while being told the opposite will happen..

damn!

Because 1. The Navy/missiles 2. I don't know the exact figures, but I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of Tornados can't carry as many bombs as a Vulcan. *stands by for air-bore bombardment*

The Valiant and Vulcan carried up to 21 conventional 1000lbs bombs. The Victor could carry up to 35!

There is only one copy of a Henschel Hs 293

Blue Steel - or Magnum?

several hundred thousand pounds, it'd be nice if military weapons like these were still that expensive, then we wouldn't be in so much debt from the war

@mongorians22 ...ROFLMFAO!!!...damn that made me laugh!!...

theres only about 10 left. priceless

Wow, Victors sure were beautiful, just a lack of care for our heritage yet again

the RAF no longer have any heavy bombers...so why's that?

HEllz yeah!! Sigh... bring em back!

Back then, thats when Britain was britain. but now we have forgoton every thing

@1MrTurd Germany is one country, Berlin is one city. Correct, century old conflicts, made worse by British rule. Are matters better after Britain left?

How come we ended up paying for all this whilst the rest of europe paid nothing !No wonder the trains and roads plus industry were devloped also the B A O R .England was left to pay for this.Now we have no industry left sold out to French and GERMAN INTERESTS.

Well maybe you should take off your rose colored glasses. When the Valiant was put into production they were deficient structurally and in service for a VERY short time and had to be withdrawn from service because of that. Very few British aircraft was up to par the Viscount and Vanguard being the exceptions. Saunders-Roe Princess, Bristol Brabazon, Herald, Comet, Tudor and many others were design or commercial failures. Really only the Britannia succeeded in gaining respect outside of Britain.

These were all known as V-bombers! Actually, Britain screwed up, and ACCIDENTALLY purchased quite a few Valiants, which wasn't the one they wanted.

@cglees

3 жыл бұрын

The Valiant was the cheapest and first one ready. They needed something to get the bombs in the air so they had to purchase it

British jet bombers are cool

B-52 or minuteman III. Nuf said.

@1MrTurd I gather he is not the father of the six year old!

More precide bombing old flower. In 1940 you'd drop five hundred bombs and hope that one would hit. In 1980 a Buccaneer crew would be disappointed if they didn't achieve a Delta Hotel first time every time with a 1,000lb dumb bomb.

RAF Wittering.

@edj66 you need to study history a little harder if you think the Cold War wasn't a war. People were getting killed everyday...I know, I was there.

Well you are clearly wrong on many points. I traveled to Many British colonies in the 1960's just before many got their "independence". They had law and order, courts, sanitation, working governments, postal service, a good economy, trains, roads, air travel etc.Ten years after they all went to hell, tribal law, corruption, economy wealth soaked up by "govenors", random killings, collapse of security, safe travel and a collapsing economy. MANY, MANY former colonies would welcome colonialism back

@maxwellfan55

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Bradley. Ditto Aden. You are so right. We knew it of course and were proved right, and now South Africa.

@1MrTurd With respect. Is the treatment of these '3rd world spongers' at the hands of the 'British Empire' over the last 2-3 centuries, indicative of a 'Great Country'? Shall I quote some examples" India/Pakistan: Princely states before British rule, after; forced mass religious migration, a million deaths and a 'still' contested Kashmir. Then there is the old Ottoman Empire (middle east) divied up in 1920. Israel/Palestine...any problems there?

@1MrTurd I worked all my life and paid my taxes. ............. I look in the mirror and I see a mug.

He says "several" times the speed of sound... in that ridiculous accent everybody seemed to have to have then.