Hey I got the notification for this episode unlike the last 2. Great education

@faqnatics

2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it, and appreciate the comment.

Great info!

@faqnatics

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the watch and comment. It’s crazy that a platform as well developed as this hasn’t gotten much more inclusion before now, but that seems to be changing. Grimani Systems, StormAudio, Audio Control, JBL, Trinnov, Origin, the list is really starting to grow this year so I expect to see more product in the next 12-24 months as manufacturers sort out licensing and board/hardware and software changes.

Saw this at CEDIA and was very eye opening - Curious how difficult this would be to swap out for an existing analog theater. Good presentation!

@faqnatics

2 ай бұрын

Hey Greg, thanks for the comment. I'm looking forward to doing another discussion on networked audio soon to expand the conversation further. Happy to find out for you. I'm guessing that Anthony put in Powersoft amps with his speakers? Many of those can have the card updated for AES67 or Dante if not already in there. Now, if it's already run and doesn't have hum I'd be hesitant to change out a newer system, but it can always be looked at.

@gregheard6024

2 ай бұрын

@@faqnatics All good hear. There is the slight hum when the room is powered off but you hear zero of that when playing content and more than thrilled with what we have as an end product. This was just a question out of curiosity. I joked with Trevor last year that I just missed the cutoff to do the Evo option as we put in the ISP MK3 into my space in July just before that unit came out. We are 110% satisfied here.

Are there any traditional amps that can take a cat cable in and then usual channel speak cables out. And can or would you name such brands for consideration. Or must we do Antony's route with 4 or five digital amps.

@faqnatics

2 ай бұрын

Happy to help. Yes there are a variety of quality amps that use the AES67 and Dante input, and then out as regular speaker cable. @powersoft, @Pro Audio Technology, and @audiocontrol are two that I am looking at right now because they are well respected as pretty bulletproof, and also have great DSP so depending on the capabilities of your Processor, you can just use it to decode the signal, and then handle DSP in the amplifier. I plan to do some reviews on these once I have my system built this summer. My goal is to objectively review A/B class amps vs. D class amps, and the various calibration software options. Plus better understand the actual benefits between amps at various price points, to see if we can find a few solid winners in the various price bands. So for the moment, I can recommend those three as commercial grade, but ready for residential. I believe crown has some options as well, so I need to dig into that as well. Trying to get beyond the marketing hype and into practical experience so I can share, but this for this reason, upgrade to this when you want better resolution or better calibration features. Storm is the only processor I know that offers full Atmos output in AES67 and Dante, but I know others were prepping to launch product after CEDIA as well. Appreciate the comment and be sure to like and subscribe so I can get the various manufacturers to let me borrow product for testing!

Are we using PoE here or transferring audio signals over Ethernet cables? Does this require all speakers to be powered? Complex crossovers? How would this look to someone today who's using speaker wire and XLR cables to connect his pre-pro to his amp? This video went straight into talking about what's coming, but not what it does, so I was left (and still am) completely confused 20 minutes into the video. Even with Anthony's picture of "this to this", I'm still thinking to myself "my system doesn't look like that. I don't know what's changing". It seems like Anthony's systems all have a bunch of external amps that run speaker wire to speakers. But how does this remove ground hum? My only thought is that we use parallel port connections from Storm and Trinnov pre-pros into amps, and that those connections are called AES. So maybe that's what's being converted to AES67 or Dante. I spent time looking these up online and couldn't figure out what they were relative to home theater. Maybe by the 1 hour mark, I'll have all these answers, but I wanted to give feedback on how I'm feeling 20 minutes in as someone who considers himself "in the know" on home theater.

@faqnatics

2 ай бұрын

Source and amplifier would need to be AES67. Effectively one Ethernet cable out of the processor, into a network switch, and then an Ethernet cable from the network switch to the amplifier or amplified speaker which could be in the rack, or another room. No XLR cables at all, and the amps could be located in the same place, or different rooms depending on the setup. Ethernet cable is less expensive and easier to build in most situations, and the cable isn’t required to be grounded which is how it cleans up ground loops, because you don’t have different cycles from different products being grounded differently in an analog connection. Everything stays digital from source all the way until the amplifier, and then technically whether its rack mounted or an amplified speaker, you typically have some sort of speaker cable whether that’s a few inches or several feet. We do discuss PoE and why although it’s possible for low power commercial speakers, you will never really get high performance theater speakers because it just requires more than what can be supplied by a PoE switch. Hope that helps.