Do you think we will continue to see more actors come out and defend using the source material to enhance their characters?

@recantedforger5850

Ай бұрын

It's important not to overlook Goggins who has stated he intentionally AVOIDED playing the games and using source material to play his character as it represents the other end of the spectrum for acting in a video game property. If your take away from this series is that actors should know the source material then I just have to respectfully disagree. I'll agree SOMEBODY should, like a writer, producer, maybe even the director, but actors shouldn't be required or expected to know a video game's history to take on a role in its universe.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

@@recantedforger5850 I agree about goggins and wasn't insinuating that the actors need to play the game to perform well. It was more about how the attitude on set wasn't "do not play the game" like other projects have stated. I also agree that it is important for the writers and producers to have experience with the source material. I just appreciated the respect that both of the actors but especially ella purnell had when asked the question.

@kukipett

Ай бұрын

Well if the director is not an idiot who thinks that the original material doesn't matter like in Halo and that his owns convictions and politic must prevail.

@stephenhumphreys9149

Ай бұрын

@@recantedforger5850 The other thing about games is that it's easy for different people to get a different idea on what an adaptation should be like, based on their own experiences or even just how they play. So a director who insisted that their cast play but then found that they and the actor had different interpretations of the source could also cause friction, depending on the personalities involved. I think that you have it right - there's nothing wrong with either approach as long as someone with input has good knowledge of the material.

@KeithDCanada

Ай бұрын

Normally...in these adaptations, the reason why the actors are asked not to play the game, is because the direct storyline is being adapted to the screen and most times some changes are made when translated to the screen. They ask the actor not to access the original story because they want to tell 'their version' of it. In this specific instance though... they are not adapting he story from the game, only the world and lore of the game. The story is entirely a new creation. So letting the actors play around in this world will only enhance the authenticity of their character's portrayal.

The show worked because they didnt insult the game audience and took the parts seriously... Everyone from the writers to the production team was doing it for "the love of the game."

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea and it makes all the difference!

@pudlmaker

Ай бұрын

A fan made film made by a studio. Actually re-watched some of the fan films on youtube. They are holding up well.

@MLPDethDealr32

Ай бұрын

Yea.. thats why they Blew up Shady Sands, Screwed the NCR, and pissed off Die Hards. They totally didnt insult fans.. What are you smoking???? This show is not Canon to Fallouts 1,2, Tactics, AND New Vegas. Todd Howard could have manned up and told them it was a bad idea to bomb Shady Sands. Instead of he chose to be a doormat.

@_Rackham

Ай бұрын

@@MLPDethDealr32 The show is set after fallout 4 it hasn't affected the lore for shady sands at all. as for 1&2 Bethesda drastically changed the feel of the game going into fo3 it is a different game after that.

@crafterofdoom

Ай бұрын

you really feel knight Titus was taken serious?

I like that Lucy isn't a billy badass out the gate and that part of her back story is that she had an education, martial arts, fencing, and rifle training in the vault.

@paulstallings1177

Ай бұрын

She was a badass out of the gate; they just did a clever job of establishing her bona fide in the montage/interview with the vault elders at the beginning of her story. A hallmark of visual story telling is the idea of; show, don't tell. Another is that the plot and scenes being shown should be among the most interesting and important moments of said character's life. Meaning it's a very difficult balance to strike for the plot to portray the most impactful moments for a character while also supplying enough exposition in a "show, don't tell" manner justifying the abilities and actions of a character, especially a character in an action roll. That's why an overwhelming majority of action characters are soldiers, veterans, or cops; it serves as a shorthand justification for how they're able to accomplish their daring feats in service to the plot while focusing on the most pivotal moments. Good storytelling is easy to recognize, but incredibly difficult to write.

@ex-navyspook

Ай бұрын

I also like how she discovered "Vault" training had NOTHING to do with the reality of the world in which she finds herself.

@The_Gallowglass

Ай бұрын

@@ex-navyspook Yeah, which is why Mr. Ghoul is giving her a wakeup call. He's giving her the real tutorial. lol

@The_Gallowglass

Ай бұрын

@@ex-navyspook On top of that, I think she gave him some humble pie, reminded him of what they world once was. Maybe it wll soften him a little.

@lawbinson

Ай бұрын

She was pretty bad ass but not overly so. Like she’s not out-muscling the raiders for example.

Lucy's character is NOT what everyone hates about modern "female leads". No Mary-Sue or Boss Bitch BS. No pandering "save me" moments or unbelievable "Strong Grrl" moments, just a likeable character with genuine flaws, internal conflicts that develops along with the story situation. Like characters SHOULD be ? Whodathunkit?

@dcmanuel7232

Ай бұрын

I'm a huge fan of Fallout (since the first game) AND the Wheel of Time series and I couldn't be more pleasantly surprised and happy with the Fallout show after having to suffer thru the Wheel of Time show pandering, woke takes on the WoT Lore.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Exactly! She is just a well written character and like you said. The show proves how little character development it takes to make a great character. Hollywood acts like gamers and people who enjoy the source material are impossible to please. Especially while making things that will appeal to a broader audience. I think fallout shows that we all want the same thing. Well written characters and stories that make sense in the context of the world they take place.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Great comparison. I think slowly, but surely amazon and Hollywood are learning. When you change franchises that you pay loads of money for and they keep getting rejected by the fan bases that made them valuable, it's probably not the fans that need to look in the mirror.

@grahamstrouse1165

Ай бұрын

I liked that the hook Nolan uaed to intrigue her was “Ned Flanders in the Apocalypse”

@enightc

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock I would love to believe that they have finally learned. Especially with TLOU, One Piece and now Fallout, its great to see that Source Material aren't just tossed aside and is actually used, and its audiences shows the support for that action. Which in turn shows a good amount of return for the investors which then prompts them to keep doing it. Especially right before this was Halo, TWOT, Ring of Power, Cowboy Bebop

To the comment if "Why isn't Lucy gay?" My response to those asking is "Why cant she be straight?"

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

Honestly they are literally the only people I've even heard say that. And as a member of the LGBT community I'd say I'm in a position to have heard that argument put forth. If somebody else besides these guys said it I can promise you it isn't coming out of my community.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Hey @ashleighelizabeth5916, just wanted to take the time to respond to your comment. I want to preface by saying that I read your longest comment but am still taking the time to respond because I agree with much of what you said and enjoyed hearing your viewpoints. Here is a separate response to your question about the statements we referenced in the video about people advocating for Lucy to be gay. In addition to many Twitter posts and Reddit threads in some of the groups I am in here is an article from Pride.com titled “'Fallout' is a wonderfully weird, funny & bold post-apocalyptic tale - but is it queer?” Here is a direct quote from Nolan. “While it would have been wonderful to see one of the leads be queer, Nolan hopes that queer audiences still see themselves represented in the show’s themes, particularly around the way the show explores the ideas of tearing down the current social structures and rebuilding something new, more equitable, and, yes, queer.” Here is another quote from that particular article. “She did, however, reveal that there are queer characters in the show, as well as gender nonconformity, particularly when it comes to the Brotherhood of Steel, but that sadly a more overt moment that touched on two characters’ relationship was cut. “There are bits of it though if you look for it.” That said I don’t believe any community speaks or thinks as a monolith so I can understand how you may not have had the same conversations that we have had. All in all, I really enjoyed your breakdown of the show in your largest comment and am working my way through responding to each of your thoughts in kind but just thought I would set your mind at ease regarding what we were referencing.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock I appreciate the response and the reference for the article. I think there are a couple of misunderstandings in how that article is interpreted though. First you should know that we as LGBT people enjoy an enormous amount of hetero centric entertainment. We don't constantly bash things because no LGBT characters are present. And the wish to be included should not be seen as advocating for one of the main characters next season to be gay. We all want to be able to see ourselves in the entertainment we watch it's actually what gave rise to games like the Fallout series in the first place. To that end by the time Skyrim and Fallout 4 arrived we were able to develop relationships without regard to their status as hetero or homo centric. Never the less we realize that we still represent a small minority of the viewing public and have no expectation of being represented in every new piece of IP that goes mainstream. And of course a source like Pride is going to advocate for our inclusion but I don't read those quotes as demanding a main character be gay or become gay in the next season. If it services the plot it would be welcome of course but if it doesn't happen we are plenty used to not be included in what is still a hetero centric world after all. The overwhelming response to the show online has been positive IMO but here and there I do see the odd comment wondering why trans characters or fat characters would still exist in such a world. Which of course fundamentally misunderstands both groups of people. I can only imagine how such comments might have multiplied if those characters would have been displayed more prominently. THAT is a serious societal issue that needs to be addressed and is far beyond the scope of a discussion about Fallout. You are absolutely correct that NO community is a monolith and NO community speaks with one voice. It should also be pointed out that not all who advocate for our community are even a part of our community. Sometimes communities allies can be a case of "with friends like these...." I suppose it seemed like the comments in this video were implying that we as a group were looking for our "pound of flesh" since the show was well received and I don't think that is the case at all.

@Marcustheseer

Ай бұрын

my respons is plz dont ruin it for the rest of us by wanting youre crap in this good show,can we just have 1 charc thats straight.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

@@Marcustheseer just 1? 95% of all characters are hetero! And how does it "RUIN IT" for a character to not be straight? As an LGBT person it does not "ruin it" for me for Lucy or Cooper or anybody else in this show to be straight. And it's NOT "our crap" it's our lives. Of course people want to see themselves represented in popular entertainment. NOBODY expects to see themselves in EVERY character or on EVERY show.... well nobody that's LGBT or a minority expects that. It seems people like you expect it constantly though!

@1:01 "I wanted to do justice to the source material". Right here is the main reason. Execs don't understand this.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yup you are right. It really is that simple.

@demonic_myst4503

Ай бұрын

Ellas a great actress who managedbe key part of two of the best videogame adaptations in decades

@nekoali2

Ай бұрын

And that's all fans of a franchise want when they see their game or book or show adapted to a new media. Someone who respects what people love about it.

Ella has the perfect deer in the headlights look for the part.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea she really is!

@charleslaughton203

16 күн бұрын

Her eyes are huuuge, I'm still not sure if that is natural or trickery.

Her press tour should be an example on how NOT to tank your movie/series by insulting the fans. I love the show and I know I'm not alone. This proves that no one cares if it's a female lead as long as you write them well.

@Soveliss74

Ай бұрын

I never got why studios and the cast and crew insulted the fans

Nolan recreated the fallout world for the fans. He made a story for everyone and that's the only way this kind of thing ever works. Original story in a world that the fans instantly recognize.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Exactly which is perfect because the games are truly for everybody. I hope a lot of people are inspired to Tru the game if they haven't already after seeing the show.

@wojtek1274

Ай бұрын

FACTS.

@marhawkman303

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock I think the meaning of the quote might have been that it's not superficial "fanservice". He might have been saying he's trying to recreate the Fallout games, and not merely throw in a bit of fanservice.

@jerrebrasfield4231

Ай бұрын

If they truly want to be loyal to the fame they should have required everyone involved play the game from start to finish before beginning the filming. Otherwise people have no clue.

@0lderSch00l

Ай бұрын

@@jerrebrasfield4231 You can't force someone to play a game and expect them top get out of it what you do when you play it for fun. Fortunately, everything in a game is written down, so it can be read. This is very beneficial since reading is what actors do. Those who play the games, or want to, are even better, but Walton Goggins has proven that it's not a requirement.

I've seen so many comments on social media asking why people hate female leads. No one hates female leads. People hate terribly written leads, period. Lucy is such a well written and well executed character, who could hate her. The Fallout TV series will be a modern cult classic if hey keep this level of quality writing and production. I'm convinced that if they released Fallout 5 with the show, it would've broken sales records.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea it really is as simple as write a good characters and the vast majority of people will he happy regardless of the characters gender. In order to prop up that false narrative they have to ignore all of the successful franchises with female leads that came before. I think that writers got lazy and thought they could mask their poor writing with manufactured controversy. 99.99 percent of people just want good characters.

@nekoali2

Ай бұрын

It currently is breaking the play time on all the games as it is. People either returning to play again, or people picking them up to play for the first time. It's a fantastic time to be a Fallout fan.

@JT.PlaysGames

Ай бұрын

​@@nekoali2 I've become a Fallout fan. Yeah, I mucked around in FO4 and FO76 before, but the TV series really peeked my interest. I've got a few hours in FO76 and FO4 now and I'm hooked.

@davidnierzwick2775

Ай бұрын

Ripley, Sarah Connor, Lara Croft, Princess Leia, Trinity, all incredible all well written all loved.

@samael9213

Ай бұрын

@@davidnierzwick2775 This isn't meant to take away from the character in any way, she's awesome! But Ripley was originally written to be a man.

I think the reason Lucy is such a likable character compared to many other leading female roles is because she’s not a Mary Sue type of character that is inexplicably good at everything and is a flawless leader out of the box. She’s just a criminally naive good spirited person in a dystopian world that won’t support her ideals.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea you explain the "Mary Sue" problem perfectly. It is the inexplicable nature of the characters proficiency that hurts the story because it demonstrates a lack of character development. Perfect characters are boring and rob stories of the stakes that make them compelling. Characters are not believable if they spontaneously gain competencies to face every new challenge. It's the way we play when we are children viewing make-believe as something that can be "won". It became a trope of bad action moviss for the protagonist to be good whatever the scene required. It has always been a mark of laziness on the writer's behalf, It was never supposed to be a template for good movies.

People don't hate female leads. People hate terribly written female leads. They hate terribly written stories period! Writers nowadays seem to think representation is all it takes for a good show and they throw the story under the bus.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

Sometimes what you are saying is true. Sometimes writers pander. Sometimes it really is poorly written characters that people hate. But sometimes it's NOT. There are a lot of "fans" out there that are simply toxic AF. We are talking racist, homophobic misogynistic jackholes that think Star Trek has "gone woke". Which is completely laughable because Star Trek is the OG woke. In fact the use of that word as a reason to hate entertainment is an automatic red flag that you are about to hear a baseless irrational hatred for something that isn't grounded in reality. These people are so toxic that they directly go after the actors because they can't separate the fantasy of an entertainment from the reality that these are real people just doing a job they get paid for to try and entertain. There is plenty of garbage writing, and garbage entertainment out there but not every thing that hardcore fans decide they hate is garbage and not everything that came before (like the Star Wars OT or the Star Trek OS) is perfect and golden.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

I agree. I think that people want well written female characters. I think that you are correct about writers thinking representation is more important than the strength of the story. I think some of that is actually less compititent writers trying to pander to hide their inability to create great stories and compelling characters. In that way they almost use representation as a scapegoat for why their stories are not resonating. But that ignores the countless examples of great and representative stories.

@appletherapy

Ай бұрын

100% true for most people.

@ChArLie360115

Ай бұрын

100% ​@@holdmydualshock

@davidnierzwick2775

Ай бұрын

Ripley, Sarah Connor, Lara Croft, Princess Leia, Trinity, all incredible all well written all loved

Henry Cavell played Witcher. He excelled as Geralt Ryan Reynolds is a huge Deadpool fan - from the original GNs There's a pattern, here.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea having a lead actor who makes the role iconic is hugely important to a show or movie being memorable let alone good.

I also helps that Ella Purnell genuinely seems to be down to earth and a nice person

Ella's clearly put 8 points into Charisma and earned The Gift of Gab perk. She is gorgeous...

I only started Fallout because of Walton Goggins, but was pleasantly surprised by everyone else. I was worried that Lucy (or Gucy) would be a Mary Sue, and was happy that she wasn't. Her character had true integrity, and followed her golden rule, as best as she could.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Ай бұрын

It occurred to me after the first episode that ultimately if Lucy had let Chet succeed in refusing to open the door for the transfer that the rest of the show wouldn't have happened. At least not with her involvement.

I imagine Fallout 3 would be the perfect game for Ella Purnell to play since it's closest to her character's arc.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

That was my though though some people pointed out that there are also a lot of plot points from the first 2 games which I haven't played myself.

@Triaxx2

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock Many A True Nerd here on youtube played through the first Fallout game, if you've not got time to wrestle the UI yourself.

@R3GARnator

Ай бұрын

@@Triaxx2 Been playing Fallout 1 for the first time myself. Had to look up a good build after dying to rats, but after that, smooth sailing. Main annoyance is juggling the inventory having to use the steal skill on my companions and cope with all their weight limits, and then barter. The guide I looked up said don't pick up anything you won't use and gamble to buy what you want, rather than wasting time filtering loot; I'm inclined to agree. Lo and behold I found the Brotherhood gives you unlimited ammo for free lol, and joining them is super easy. But I only found that out later.

She plays the character so well because she knows what it felt like to step out of that vault door. She felt the fear of the unknown, the anxiety of leaving that safety.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea she really captured that feeling of wandering into the unknown

I love Lucy's character in Fallout and this interview makes me love her even more 😍

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea she was really good!

@freddyfeliciano4468

Ай бұрын

Ella Purnell's great performance along with Walton Goggins are the reasons in my opinion the show works so well. With out them, I don't think the show would be even half as successful or as good.

@sleepydog223

Ай бұрын

Lucy’s character is the best. Her adherence to the golden rule and her willingness to move on to the next phase of life with a simple “Okie dokie” shows her strength, resolve and adaptability.

@benktlofgren4710

Ай бұрын

@@sleepydog223 Don't forget Matt Berry as Mr Handy, that was a bloody brilliant cast!

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea, i love everything Matt Berry does. Have you listened to his album?

The attention to detail was pretty insane. The show really is the games in live action.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea thats how I felt watching it. Especially when the radio would be playing as Lucy wandered the wasteland.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they got so many of the things from the game in the show!

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Ай бұрын

Yes, and at least they gave us an explanation as to why Chet decided to open the vault door and allow the raiders in. I'd be curious about how many folks realized that if he had stuck to his guns about not wanting to give up on Lucy that the raiders wouldn't have gotten in.

It also helps that a lot of the crew that worked on the series, were also fans of the games, which can only have helped to build a more authentic experience and Tod Howard has confirmed that the series is fully vanon and that everything that happened in thw games, happened prior to the series, so nothing has been retconned

@tinmanspartan7551

Ай бұрын

@sjtwstot And the whole thing about ghouls needing chems. to not go feral. I'm 60 yrs old and have played ALL the fallout games from the beginning and that's really the only deviation I saw from the FO Universe. Other things I'm not crazy about as well, but that's true with the games also. There are just going to be some things that some people are not going to like. Be it a book, a movie, a game whatever. We all have different ideas of how we think it should be done, but like they kept saying in the show, Everyone want's t save the world, they all just have their own idea of how it should be done.

@R3GARnator

Ай бұрын

@sjtwstot Shady Sands was not a retcon.

Another actress that is doing this so well is Mckenna Grace as Phoebie Spengler in Ghostbusters. She's a fan playing in the movies.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea I enjoyed the new Ghostbusters films and largely for that reason. Everyone involved especially grace McKenna seemed to be excited to be a part of a Ghostbusters movie. I think it comes though on screen

@Ins0mnia365

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock i've had the pleasure to meet Mckenna last week in Belgium. She's such a kind person to the fans aswell and totally geeks out on Ghostbusters related topics. She's deffo one to keep an eye on, because she's going to be one of the greatest.

One of the best things done with this whole series was the casting. All of them were selected very well. No. They didn't go too much into fan-service. But as an original Fallout player... I mean top down Isometric, which I do not expect you to understand, they picked wonderful actors to play these rolls. I am happy with how this went. Could it have been better? Yes. But we also could have designed the Voyager probes the explore the sun as well... so lets be real. They did their job, above and beyond what was expected. After nearly thirty years of people like me playing Fallout as a game (yes, that long. Fallout 1 came out in 1997) we finally got a TV adaptation, and not only did it not suck, but it was pretty fucking amazing. So while I could sit here and bitch about semantics and canon and lore... I won't. It was good. They did it justice, and maybe even more than that.

@darran407

Ай бұрын

I agree with everything you said as I'm also OG fallout from interplay

@BlandoGaming

Ай бұрын

Well said. 👏

Didn’t know she was British. Makes sense now as she can really act.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea she is very good

Lucy, Maximus, Dogmeat, the Ghoul and even Lucy's dad are all memorable characters that you desire to know more about... and the guy with one-eye lol.. that was cool

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

They did a really great job of building the characters and actually having them compelling stories. Chris parnell, as the overseer of vault 4, was hilarious. What was your favourite part of the show?

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea I agree and am very excited for a second season. I felt so bad for Chris Parcells character! Especially when maximus "saved" Lucy.🤣

@jasonlynch282

Ай бұрын

I wasn't a fan of the mutants in the vault. They seemed to off tempo with being related to gopers swamp creatures. All the other characters, friend or foe or in between I enjoyed.

@nekoali2

Ай бұрын

@@jasonlynch282 Heh.. I really don't wan't to think about how they are descendants of gulper/human hybrids. :) But that's Fallout Vault experiments in a nutshell isn't it?

The actors don't need to play the games, but the WRITERS should.

@dustinjorgenson4222

Ай бұрын

Both should, the writers so they can can create the story and the actors so they can embody it

@sirmarshall9521

Ай бұрын

@@dustinjorgenson4222 Embodying the role is literally what acting is, lmao.

@stephenlukcasy9047

Ай бұрын

Directors and producers also should honor source materials. The best movies and shows are when source materials are honored Harry Potter, Jurassic Park exc.

If the creators don’t care enough to learn about the world they’re entering they don’t care enough to make a good show or movie.

They also achieved a magic level of atmospheric feel.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea what makes me spend so many hours in the games is how much I love soaking up the atmosphere and ambiance. The show really naid that.

Okie Dokie =)

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Haha I loved how her Okie Dokies changed through the season

@TheK5K

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock That last line - she's changed....watch out Wasteland!

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Haha exactly, and also just like that Okie dokie worked its way back into the public vernacular 🤣

@Marcustheseer

Ай бұрын

i never had annything with these words but this show might make the words populer i hope,its just fun.

@Xadov

Ай бұрын

Personally, I feel represented now because I’ve been saying “okie dokie” for years now. 🎉🎉🎉

I avoided watching videos about Fallout regardless of if they were saying good or bad things about it because I REALLY wanted to form my own opinion about it without being tainted by anyone elses take on it. I did however watch the 1st episode expecting to be let down simply because of how things in Hollywood have been lately. I was VERY pleasantly surprised and by halfway throug the 1st episode I was hooked and watched the entire season in one go and was left wanting more. Ella did a FANTASTIC job in her role and I was happy that they made her character original. The visuals were great and the story keeps with the lore while being seperate from the game, without stepping on the games in the process. I for one applaud everyone involved in making this show and I am eagerly awaiting the next season.

They don't want actors and such knowing the source material because then they might question decisions, and they do not want to lose any element of control. Its honestly they either want to do there own thing with out having to defend it or they are not confident in there vision and abilities so are afraid to be judged

@argo9750

13 күн бұрын

I know I am late, but it's actually beneficial if actors don't know the source material if the writers are fans. Walton Gogins never played the games and questioned the script from a POV of someone who doesn't understand the universe, which is beneficial if you want to have wider appeal.

The reason the show was good? Two words, practical effects. That is what shows have been missing, everything filmed in a greenscreen stage or some dumb thing ( looking at you Disney) it REALLY makes a difference when something looks and feels real, and with Fallout, making so many things digitally would have been blood in the water for some of the fans.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

That's a great point. I didn't realize until you just said it but it really did make a huge difference! You are right about there being a lot of problems filming in front of greenscreens and even on volume.

@scottneil1187

Ай бұрын

Instead the supposed fans just piss and moan about the lore and find every tiny little detail to whine about. Especially the ever annoying people that never shut up about 1,2 and NV being goated and Bethesda being evil.

@christophercarnes5225

Ай бұрын

They used primarily digital effects, tons of them, they were just good. They used green screen too. Perhaps seeing interviews about shooting on location hatched this idealist fantasy about how it was all practical effects?

@b00m0ny0u

Ай бұрын

@@christophercarnes5225 never said it was all practical, but like most people who have something to say about this show, people will misread what is said to start an argument lmao

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

@@christophercarnes5225 it can't be denied that they used more practical effects than we've seen in a rather long time in the SyFy genre. For example Iron Man stop having suits that were a practical effect before Infinity War which is now nearly a decade old. The fact that they built that Power Armor as a practical effect (with some enhancement from CGI) instead of as a motion capture suit is HUGE in this industry. The fact that they filmed scenes outdoors instead of plopping it all on to a soundstage in front of greenscreen is big too. And frankly they had no choice if they were going to continually switch back and forth between the REAL world of the wasteland and the fake one in the vaults.

I can't imagine an actor being told not to play a game or read the source material before a role unless the director just doesn't want them to have an opinion on what they are doing and only do what they are told.

I mean she voice jinx from arcane already which is a good character already under her belt and gives some experience towards game inspire show i love it

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yes she was very good in arcane! She did a great job voicing Jinx.

I read an interview with one of the creators of the show and he said Todd Howard just told him to do what he thought was best and come to him if they needed help with anything. The show creator said usually the source material people have lists of things that have to be signed off all along the production of the show. Since he got such freedom what do what he wanted he tried really hard to make it a good show. Since you are not working with what the developer thinks is good and letting the show producer do what he thinks will make a great show I think it helps to create a show that depends on good characters and story and not on the world it takes place in.

I think she captures the essence of a vault dweller experiencing this vicious world for the first time so well. In the games, we can go right from the vault to mass murder and our characters don't bat an eye because it's hard to capture that. Lucy does get to experience that and Ella did amazing in the role.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea she evolves a lot throughout the season! Her okey dokie at the end shows how much she has seen.

I love it when the actors actually LIKE the source material their series is based off of. It makes it feel so much better when they love it like the fans do.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Sadly, it's not a given these days.

@rrudeljr

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock yeah sadly it's more common for actors to shit on fans of the projects they work on.

It's much better when writers and actors stick to the source material and not over politicize things, not changing charcters into different races, genders or sexual orientation because nobody wants to see that "stunning and brave" shit. People want to see the characters from the games they love come alive on film as they are in the game and to bring the atmosphere and feel of the games onto film. The writers and cast of Fallout did a great job, Lucy is a very likeable character and not trying hard to be anything.

She just seems like such a humble and fun person, and I really like that her genuine excitement for Fallout shines through.

@holdmydualshock

6 күн бұрын

yea she really does

It's interesting that Jonathon Nolan said he didn't set out to please the fans, but exactly what this show does. It does please the fans. If you're a fan of the games, you get this show.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea very true. Now people have pointed out that that quote must have been taken out of context because it doesn't trend with the show and how much it made an effort to please fans. I've heard the argument that he probably meant it would be insane to make a show that was just fan Easter eggs because it wouldn't be a good show and the media ran with it to fit their narrative.

@antonstezhkin5991

7 күн бұрын

Lol! Mission failed successfully 😅 I'm a fan and I'm 💯 pleased

she's really into Maximus. Why would THAT be a problem?

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

It's a problem for people who would like her to be into women OR people who just don't like Maximus

@blablubb4553

Ай бұрын

You forgot the vast amount of people who don‘t like Maximus‘ skin color.

@deadsirius3531

Ай бұрын

​@@blablubb4553 must be an extremely quiet "vast amount of people"

@artemiseritu

Ай бұрын

​@deadsirius3531 yeah, because these days if you say anything you get mobbed.

The difference for me is she sees this show as a destination. She is committed to making this a great show. The unsuccessful shows have actors/writers/directors that see the show as either a money grab or stepping stone. This makes them not really do a deep dive on the source material and why people have embraced it. They just reuse the character names and make a show that is disconnected from what made the material popular.

Imagine adapting a popular band's music to another medium. They sold millions of albums, but you say, "don't listen to them, because my adaptation will be waaay better." The built-in audience for your adaptation will be 90% composed of that band's fans. Turns out, you're *not* as talented as you think, but the company you work for calls everyone "-ists" when you desecrate the original work. This scenario seems insane, but it's the current Hollywood playbook.

@scottneil1187

Ай бұрын

How can you adapt music to another medium?. That's just nonsense. Also, have you not been around the last few decades?. Adverts, TV & films are absolutely crammed with awful, slowed down, pathetic, whiny cover versions of popular songs that I, as a fan, utterly detest.

@joso7228

Ай бұрын

@@scottneil1187 well you could adapt a cover of a 60s song with a music video

@Alex-gn6ii

Ай бұрын

​@@scottneil1187 you missed the metaphor my friend. Most recent example I can point to is the Witcher adaptation on Netflix. Big fan base likes two other mediums (video games and books). Netflix create screenplay. Netflix writers disrespect source material and rewrite the work. Fans don't like it. Now the screenplay is scrapped.

Imagine if everyone who was tasked with making a Pride & Prejudice movie was told they weren't allowed to read the book.

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

Yea or being told not to read Macbeth because it will only get in the way🤣

It dosent hurt that she’s absolutely stunning lol

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Haha yea there is that

I think Lucy the individual has been unexplored much like most of the Wasteland, but we have seen her moral compass lean towards the aid of others, so given the right circumstances she could be convinced to do almost anything for the "Good" of everyone.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea and that makes her compelling. I can't wait to see how her "greater good" morality is tested in the next season.

@antonstezhkin5991

7 күн бұрын

​@@holdmydualshock I think she will pass any tests.

She's a wonderful actress & Lucy is such a fun cute character who's easy to relate with. The show worked because everyone involved wanted to make a passionate story INSIDE THE UNIVERSE. whereas the "Creators" of Halo & The Witcher wanted to make THEIR story DESPITE THE UNIVERSE.

Ella Purnell is the first female lead i liked in a very long time. Her character really grew from niaeve to wary...and she wasn't a MARY SUE

A friend of mine, when I mentioned binging Fallout that first day, responded like I knew he would.... He had also binged it, and surprise, surprise, he loathed it so much that he "fast forwarded through most of it". He said as soon as he saw the Squires carrying around this giant bag he thought, "That's just dumb. They don't have that in the game. It's just stupid. Any gear would be easily carried by the Knight's armor."..... and that as it. That one detail difference from the game was enough to make him 'fast forward through most of it'. He does that with everything though. Any show anyone says they like, he has already seen it, hated it for some small minute detail, and brands the show 'woke' if they dare cast a female lead. My question to him..... if you fast forwarded through most of it, then how do you know it sucked? These toxic fans are the worst..

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

I thought the squires were funny because as those of us who love the games know, we all dump our hoarded items on our companions!🤣 Yeah in an adaption I expect things to be adapted and going through playing "spot the difference" isn't going to lead to any sort of enjoyment. The show manages to nail most of the things necessary to make it have the charm of the games while telling a unique story that actually built on the world established in the games.

@KeithDCanada

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock Yup, when translating media from one medium to another, you can never have a 'direct' translation... something always has to change. To streamline things you might have to combine characters, to shorten the story into a 2 hour format you may have to eliminate a lot of internal character dialogue, and just figure out an easier and more time efficient way to relay important information. Some people though, don't understand that. My same friend, when discussing the 'Wheel Of Time' adaptation from Amazon, said he thought it was stupid because 'All the different armor types being worn were all from different time periods and wouldn't have been in use at the same time.... and I pointed out that it was a fantasy world. It wasn't supposed to be our world. We have no idea how the historical production of armor in that world occurred... because it's not real. He couldn't grasp the concept... and for him it ruined the entire show, and he proceeded to ruin everyone else's enjoyment of it as well. I mean, there were valid criticisms of that series... but the use of leather, plate, chain and scale armors at the same time was not one of them. That's a very small detail for it to 'ruin your experience' and make you hate the show.

@FiliusFidelis

Ай бұрын

@@KeithDCanada Wheel of time, they went out of their way to, as they put it in this video, bastardize it. It is virtually unrecognizable, no respect for the source at all. As for the armor, and for that matter the clothes, the environments, the architecture even the hairstyles and jewelry was laid out in great detail by Robert Jordan.. the showrunners simply didn't give a shit, about any aspect of the books. Fans of the books have ample reason to hate it, noone demands or expects perfection, but at least show that you care.

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

The moment you have somebody who uses the word "woke" as a reason to hate something it's a waste of time to argue about any other aspect of the entertainment in question. That's simply not a rational argument in our current toxic culture. I personally find his argument absurd, given how it would be nearly impossible to portray player inventory IRL compared to a video game. DnD had to literally INVENT the "bag of holding" to get around the block of how would these player characters haul all this damn loot across the land. The Squire carrying the giant bag is pretty hilarious to me and a great example of why most of us have a follower in Skyrim or Fall Out 4.

@Marcustheseer

Ай бұрын

thats not a fan thats someone that looks for stuf to be unhappy about,his life must be misserable,the show is good i like it.

The flathbacks and following character in 31-33 was a a good choice since you don't get as much of that story directly in the games, flashbacks building to the ending reveal was just icing.

The cast did an excellent job. I respect Purnell's hard work in bringing her character to life.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

100% the cast all did really well, especially Ella Purnell and Walton goggins. I was really happy with her work.

“That’s what we’ve been waiting for.” -Random fish

Lucy is absolutely my favorite character, mainly due to Ella's amazing performance. The Ghoul / Cooper Howard is by far the coolest character, but Lucy is still my favorite. It's kind of similar in Arcane; but instead, while Vi is my favorite character, I feel like Jinx is by far the coolest character.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Understandable. Lucy is my favorite character as well but Walten Goggens does a phenomenal job as the Ghoul and enhances the show with his performance

They started with a gaming IP that is well loved for decades. Then, they took great effort to stick to that IP, which most directors try to "make it their own". Then the characters and story were also excellent for the source material.

I really think the show would not be nearly as good with a different cast. Walton Goggins and Ella Purnell are actually just perfect.

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

I loved them both. I didn't know off Ella until recently(didn't realize she was jinx) but goggins always elevates shows. So good.

Why do some people not play the source material?, because it can colour your interpretation of the role and cause you to not have a wholly original take. Walton Goggins hasn't played the games and in fact refused to, are you gonna say he wasn't one of the best things about the show and doesn't care?.

@dmacarthur5356

Ай бұрын

I don't think it's an absolute that an actor needs to be over familiar with any source material that is fictional. If the writers and directors are familiar with it and understand it, then any good actor will be able to play the role. They are after all the just the end result of what the writers and directors envision the role to be.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

I agree he was fantastic! He essentially played 2 roles, and both were phenomenal. I wasn't suggesting that playing the game automatically makes the actor better or that actors that have a method and don't choose to play the game are going to inherently be less effective. I was just saying I liked the attitude of the 2 actors regarding the games. There have been other adaptations where actors were told to avoid the source material, and compared to that, their response was nice, I thought. 🙂

Its like no one learned from the Witcher and Henry Cavil, like, people want the adaptations BECAUSE they want to see the source material come alive. For people to make it come alive, they should KNOW the source material and, here's the kicker, *stick to it*. Expand upon it, sure, but its foundation has been built for years if not decades - why forgo it out of idk, artistic pride?

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for commenting

Amazing video! Keep up the good work!

the actors in the fallout series nailed this show. all the praise they get is deserved. good on the director as well!

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea they really nailed the spirit of the games!

Lucy was AWESOME! I started playing Fallout 76 because this show made me want to play again. I had bought the game years ago and quit after getting to lvl3.

@woodlanditguy2951

Ай бұрын

Lucy can't be gay.... She came from a vault that was designed to be highly conservative. If you understand the lore of Fallout (Ella does), ALL vaults had experiments associated with them. Vaults 31, 32 and 33 were interconnected. Vault 31 produced overseers for 32 and 33. The experiments inside 32 and 33 were to create a population of highly polite conservative people that had family oriented populations and would reproduce at a predictable rate. LGBTQ would not fit into that spectrum and therefore Lucy could not be gay. If a vault dweller was found to be gay, they would have likely had some unfortunate event happen to them and it would have been swept under the rug by the crazy and corrupted overseers.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

That's awesome! Yea, I have been itching to go back and play Fallout again since the show. I was thinking of playing 3 again. When I played 76 it kept crashing but I have heard it's much better now so might give it another go.

@woodlanditguy2951

Ай бұрын

@@holdmydualshock I played 76 all day Saturday and didn't have any crashes. I have an older PC and had 0 issues with it. Really brought me back to when I first played Fallout and fell in love with the game.

@BlandoGaming

Ай бұрын

76 has come a looooong way from what it used to be. And mostly in good ways. Lol

Wait, why would Lucy be anything but straight? She was raised underground with the belief that reproduction is her most important duty as a survivor, they covered that in extreme detail in the first episode. I think changing that would require a lot of explanation in her change of values as a person. All of which would be unnecessary for a character that's already done well, while we have plenty of opportunities for representation with other characters that weren't raised and conditioned in a vault for 200 years.

@antonstezhkin5991

7 күн бұрын

That's not how things work. If raising could completely determine sexual orientation there would be no gays in some cultures. But they exist. So there should be gay and bi vault dwellers. But Lucy seems to be straight. Not because of being raised in a vault, but just because some people are straight.

I think what I loved about Lucy so much was that she's usually the type of character I tend to play in a Fallout game - someone who's kind, wants to help, but that doesn't mean she's a pushover. I loved the scenes with her where I'm like "oooh Lucy's using her Speech check!"

@holdmydualshock

6 күн бұрын

yes! I loved that some of the scene actually felt like speech checks. I laughed so hard when her speech about america failed. Reminded me so much of playing the games

I 100% agree! The formula for success of a show of movie adaptation of a game of book is so easy! Yet so many fail following it, because they prefer to make a political statement no one needs or asked for, instead of creating a good show or movie fans would love and support! And that formula simply is: Respect the freaking source material!

CW's supergirl was thousands of times more preachy than what I saw in Fallout the tv-show. and even that was sometimes fun. People complaining about Fallout TV has not played any of the games. not even the bad ones. Even the fact that by the end of the season only a handful of people would not have been deserving of a bullet to the face. perfect Fallout. :P

@Hobodeluxe007

Ай бұрын

CW's Supergirl was all about accepting people different than you. It's focus was on social diversity. Fallout is more anti- Capitalism /pro-Socialism and portrays the corporations as evil. Which imo is accurate to a degree. Right now we have a govt and legal system that puts fidicuary responsibility above social responsibility. Where bribing lawmakers is legal as long as you jump through a couple of loopholes big enough to drive a Brinks truck through. Where defense contractors and big oil can start wars to facilitate access to resources both natural and human. The military is just muscle for them to pave the way for them make more money for themselves. War is a racket. - Major Gen Smedley Butler. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWir1Lpxoq7aqto.html

@ashleighelizabeth5916

Ай бұрын

@@Hobodeluxe007 well said.

@viperswhip

Ай бұрын

@@Hobodeluxe007 Heh, go watch episode 2, it's the one where tons of trolls sit and they never watched the rest of the show. It is by far the most explicit hit you over the head, rah rah girl power ep.

@Hobodeluxe007

Ай бұрын

@@viperswhip do strong women threaten your manhood?

The whole "anti-fan" thing is baffling to me. Studios take these properties with existing fandoms and adapt them _presumably BECAUSE they have existing fandoms to market to..._ and then... they deliberately _alienate_ those guaranteed viewers. Like... _fucking WHY?!_ lol What's even the point of grabbing an IP _for the guaranteed win_ and then shitting all over that guaranteed win?!

@SergeiKarimov

Ай бұрын

I can answer why. Their goal is not to cash out, their goal is to reeducate straight white males, tell them how guilty, privileged and wrong they are. Their goal is to actually kill, rebuild from scratch any lore that doesn't fit woke ideology. Like they literally killed james bond who existed for decades. How they ruined many game, movie, tv-series franchises. That's why disney, hollywood in general is getting huge cash losses. Hopefully capitalism wins woke (rebranded communism) one day and make hollywood great again. Fallout tv series makes me hopeful, that's a move to the right direction at least.

@cheese0827

Ай бұрын

The cool thing about fallout is it isn't anti fan, but its not constantly like look at this cool reference, isnt that neat? But I do agree with you, the halo show makes a great example of your point

I was going to comment on Witcher etc.. but you guys did so great that i can only say these two people nailed this so perfectly I have nothing to add except a comment to increase the algorithm.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Yea we are tiny, so it's nice when we are recommended to new people!

I went from ready to hate this show to actually wanting to see it and enjoying the news about it cause i hear more.and more that they actually took the games right. So many game adaptations act like the game was a mistake and not what there adapting for the "real" story and miss the point alot

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

Great point. So many shows try and "fix" the game instead of adapting the things people liked and expanding it in keeping with the essence of the game.

I'm 90% sure the "fool's errand" quote is indeed taken out of context, one of the show runners did say something along the lines of it was foolish to try to incorporate all of the things that made fallout the games great, as there's hundreds of hours of gameplay across all of those games, so they said instead they would rather focus on specific tidbits in order to do those RIGHT by the fans and get them to fit the story. Which is what, should happen in my opinion, otherwise you get things like the Solo movie, where you had all these things thrown at you - this is why there's the line his computer had a funny dialect, this is where his dice came from, this is where his name came from - and it's just one after the other like it's rapid fire and so there's no real way for them to elaborate on those things. Even the fact he won the ship in a game against Lando kinda felt hollow to me because of how many other tidbits they'd thrown at us during the movie. It ended up falling flat in that regard. the Fallout show is great though. you get little bites, little references, but they still fit the plot or what's being said and doesn't seem out of left field.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea, that makes a lot of sense. The Lando and solo example really makes sense. I actually paraphrased your argument in another conversation because it was so well put! The show is definitely not in line with that quote as it was being portrayed in many of the articles that came out before the show release. I agree, the show really nailed the balance between references but without going so overboard it's difficult to fit in a good story.

@LUNITICWILL

Ай бұрын

it would be foolish to incorporate all of it into 1 season. now that we have a Season 2 on the way, more stuff will appear. if they want Super Mutants, there is Jacobstown. if they want deathclaws, there's multiple packs throughout New Vegas.

Luci is the Luckiest and most Charming of all Characters in the whole Series.))) She had a good roll on the Character Creation stage.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yep she is S.P.E.C.I.A.L for sure!

Hollywood: Dont read the source material. Actor: Why not? Hollywood: Because we are trying to kill it.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's not awesome hearing them explain everything they hate about the source material and how they need to change it to make it suit them.

I think most of this worked because they had a story to tell. They didn't try and use every mob in the world. They used enough references to make it still canon and realistic within the world - BUT TOLD A NEW STORY that wasn't reliant on the other games, just built upon the lore and didn't disprove/make a previous gameplay non cannon with the players

Well, off to another episode of Fallout. See you vault dwellers or waste landers later (YAY!!!!!!!)

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Haha okie donkey! Have fun out there!

The show did well because they didn't try to push an agenda or play alphabet politics.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea it had a solid story and I think it proved that adaptations should be pretty simple. Don't pander, just make a good story and most people will be able to enjoy it.

I really like Lucy as a character. Because she perfectly plays someone who is obvious a fish out of the water, but she still finds it in her to step into the fray because of her internal belief. The moment when she stepped out to confront the ghoul, after seeing him basically slaughter the entire town, was what solidified her character for me.

@holdmydualshock

6 күн бұрын

I agree, Lucy's character development is really well done.

The lead character being female actually made it maore authentic to me as I always play a female character in fallout.

@holdmydualshock

26 күн бұрын

I thought it was very cool and she did an amazing job selling the vault dweller naiveté

This was probably the absolute best game adaptation of all time. Great cast, great costumes, sets, lore accurate. The only thing wrong was the trees and the rest of the green plants around the pond/lake that the axolot was in. And now she's set for life paycheck wise from all the conventions she will be invited to for the next 30+ years.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Agreed! This was definitely the best game adaptation I've ever seen. You can tell the director as well as the cast took great effort and care to make sure it embodied the games. I never thought about the cons but that's very true and she is so great in interviews that she be a central part to cons moving forward

ironic to hear the denial that fandoms are too often toxic as you enumerate the types of toxicity in fandoms.

@christophercarnes5225

Ай бұрын

They’re toxic bandwagon jumpers glomming on to infect the new thing by telling fans what they should feel & how to enjoy things.

Yeah it is nice to see that there are still actors and filmmaking people who put proper effort in adaptation and use the source-material as guidance and inspiration to bring the world to live and tell a good story. I had no hope for this and avoided any for of media before it launched. then first praises came up so I gave it a chance. Now I want more of this show and play Fallout again.

Imagine, the one time a game->show adaptation really worked out, its because they actually played the game 🤯

People Love Strong Based Female characters verses Woke Girl Bosses.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

I enjoy female characters when they actually build their story correctly, instead of what we usually get which is, "I've always been strong and just needed to believe in myself" which is just lazy. If the writers don't feel the need to build backstories and the character, then obviously they are going to fall flat.

@koldaussie

Ай бұрын

My favourite strong female character has always been Major Kusanagi, Motoko from Ghost in the Shell. You really can't get much more of a well balanced and strong female presence than her. I'd possibly add Michelle Yoeoh into that level of strong female characters, or their actresses.

@TheCaptainSplatter

Ай бұрын

I like how she is this quirky woman being all goody two shoes but become a total badass to survive.

@antonstezhkin5991

7 күн бұрын

​@@koldaussiemy favourite and the strongest female character is... Gemma Simons from agents of shield. No superpowers. Basic combat training. But nerves of steel, dedication to her friends and nerd skills let her survive and win where superheroes would not even dare try. And she is not a strong badass boss bitch. Sometimes she is afraid, sometimes funny, sometimes lost . But she manages to put herself and sometimes the others together and do whatever it takes.

Doesn't matter. The Last of Us has rave reviews and the majority of ppl loved what they saw on screen. The show deviated from the actual game a lot.

@lupolinar

Ай бұрын

It is a good show, just not the masterpiece people want it to be. And if S2 tackles the 2nd game... good luck.

@scottneil1187

Ай бұрын

​@@lupolinarHave never and will never play that unmitigated slap in the face, if s2 follows it then that'll be a big ignore from me too.

@DanyTheMe

4 күн бұрын

People forget that a story beat that makes for fun game play doesn't necessarily make for a good scene in a different medium. Plus with a game that's as cinematic as TLOU why tf would people want the adaptation to be a 1:1 retelling? Personally, I think it's more compelling for the adaptation to keep the themes and characters, but change up the plot here and there so it's its own thing

Lucy and Maximus have tremendous character arcs that one can see themselves in no matter who they are. I didn’t feel talked down to like I usually do.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea the show was effortlessly fun and the characters were good! I'm looking forward to season 2.

I absolutely loved her performance in the show. But also I loved that Lucy has genuine character development. When for the first time she takes a weapon, she takes non-lethal option because, well, she was taught to be a good person and didn't knew any better. After all that she lived through, her decision to stick to non-lethal option feels like an honest and well-thought decision - she no longer uses tranquilliser gun because she doesn't know any better, but because she DOES know better and decides to still go with less aggressive and more life-preserving methods. That might sound like "well, that's not much, but IMO, it shows her character development really well.

@holdmydualshock

23 күн бұрын

I completely agree. I love the fact that she was raised as peaceful and valuing human life. But throughout the show she DEVELOPS, and starts to have a better understanding of how dangerous the wasteland truly is. I love you point though, i never thought about her choice of using a non-lethal gun, I thought she just used it because that's all she had.

Not only that, but Hollywood can also learn how to do promotion: Just talk about the product and not your political opinions.

@christophercarnes5225

Ай бұрын

Talking about Hollywood like it’s a company to get head pats from other idiots.

If they surprise me in the second season with a bunch of agenda I stop watching, easy as that

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Pretty much

It's little things that Ella Pernell has brought to the table. Her use of "okey dokey" when it shows up in the script is both subtle and in your face. When playing the game of Fallout, there are seemingly endless moments where the action or conversation freezes and you are given a finite number of choices. Sometimes as a player you stare at the options and wish for other choices. Most of the time tho, among the choices given, you pick the one you feel is right for you, and move forward with that same sense of uncertain confidence. It doesn't always feel 100% ideal, but given the circumstances, it's time to just say okay and move on. Her face. Her Demenor. How she says the phrase. It's like you're there with her in that moment picking that option and moving forward. She's practically looking into the camera when she says it.

@antonstezhkin5991

7 күн бұрын

Hell yeah! There should have been oki dokie instead of sarcasm in fallout 4! I hope there will be a mod for this

Lucy is loved because she is NOT a Mary Sue, she is believable, and she is how a vault dweller would be with no knowledge of how crazy life outside the vault is.

@holdmydualshock

19 күн бұрын

Very true 👍👍

@DanyTheMe

4 күн бұрын

I've seen lots of dudes calling her that tho. Honestly like 90% of "Marry Sues" aren't even marry Sues, it's just that the dudes who can't stand women being the protags will always do mental gymnastics to perceive them that way.

There are a lot of people that like to discount video games as an artform. The same was true with film when it came out. Anyone that's been playing in the past couple decades knows that games are attracting some of the most talented artists and writers.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea very true, the reason they are adapting so many video games is because if the quality of stories being told in gaming.

SHE GETS IT THANK YOU!!!!

I love the fact that the vault dweller is female, I'm a straight guy, but I always play Fallout with a female character!

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

Yea thats a good point. Many dudes play as female characters. A bunch of my mates play with female skins or create female characters. Gamers are pretty open to that sort of thing.

I think it just really captured the vibe, swinging between absurd hilarity and over the top moments to some generally hard to watch scenes and serious themes. Nailed the essence of Fallout IMO and yeah there are some things I don’t LOVE but overall a great experience

@holdmydualshock

29 күн бұрын

That's how I felt. Not everything worked but most of it did and thats what I hope for in an adaptation. It was the most fun I had with a show in a while.

Lucy is a great (female) character because she has an actual character arch! Her growth in ability and heroism is basically the main storyline. She doesn't just pop out of the vault as a lvl 50 Girl Boss for no reason. Honestly, I think "Girl Boss" short changes female characters and the actresses that play them just as much as old damsel in distress tropes.

I never played fallout so i didnt understand the easter eggs in the show but I can say beside that I really enjoyed it. I feel like its a world that is worth a watch and I really enjoyed the characters progress and development while being in that crazy world. I hope it continues!

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

The Easter eggs they have in the show aren't going to affect you watching the show. They are just little nods here and there. But I do love the world building and characters. I can't wait for season 2!

There is another thing that makes the show great. The story telling is very similar to fallout game series. The main character goes on a quest, explores, gets distracted, finds out bits of the lore that change the character and the quest. That's brilliantly captured!

Borat: “ And we know what is IT she get! High five!”

@holdmydualshock

10 күн бұрын

Epic

Same reason why Castlevania was a good show. People making it were fans and wanted to do it justice.

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Hi Katie here! I love Castlevania, great example!

Remember that The Last of Us was retelling the same story as the game playing the same characters from the game, so they wouldn’t want them to have a preconceived version in their head instead of the one the writers and director wanted. In Fallout the characters and story is original set in the same Fallout universe, so all they’re going to get out of it is kind of a sense of the aesthetics and world, so it wouldn’t be a disadvantage to be familiar with the games.

Loved it! Great writing, GREAT CAST!

@holdmydualshock

Ай бұрын

Yea agreed its really strong all the way around and I'm really looking forward to a second season!

What a relief to see this gratefull, optimistic attitude. What a world of difference with - for excample- the spoiled, narcissistic Rachel Zegler

She did an amazing job job, so believable clearly she worked very hard, her character was the most important to be authentic. The production was so well done I found myself jumping up and down at scenes. I always play fallout as a small brunette female so it clicked immediately for me. The story line plays through like the story in the game. It was so awesome!