I raised over fifty pigeons this year and I’m down to nine birds thanks to the falcons. The falcon is an impressive predator with their speed and agility killing their prey. Hopefully 2023 will be a better year.

@kerbyjackson88

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me if your loss rate is normal compared to everyone else. I flew 125+ in 2022. I have about 35 left and somehow feel grateful. In 2021, I flew about the same and by late December, only six were left.

@aronkaspar6369

10 ай бұрын

I hate pigeons, hope the falcons get them all. Rats with wings

@HerbysHanz

2 ай бұрын

@@aronkaspar6369 lol. U don’t know much about the rat. They burn down houses, cars,etc. by chewing on the wires. 🙏

This is crazy!

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

we were lucky to catch it on video

Unfortunate for the pigeon and the fancier. Incredible video

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

thanks

this is amazing content

Wow

Yeah that’s crazy because I breed 100 birds a year and I’ll be a list with about 20 at the end of the year so let’s just say those are our pets we breed nowadays, you see hawks attack dogs what’s nex 2:19 and we can’t even bother them

Fast bird

He picked him out something nice too SMH 🤦🏾‍♂️… great footage brotha 💯

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

that bird was 30ft solid ..smh...they always get the good ones

@ktbtv1557

Жыл бұрын

@@thepigeonmedia2713 i couldn’t watch 🤦🏾‍♂️ I’ve been trying reach you brotha so we can link

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

Whts your Instagram?

@ktbtv1557

Жыл бұрын

@@thepigeonmedia2713 @ktb9o9

Nice footage

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Amazing video

@thepigeonmedia2713

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

you need to fix this abomination

Crazy!

wow great footage say the least. behind the scene frfr

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

thank you

I raise homing pigeons in the city area, although they flew freely every day, because they had no contact with the peregrine falcon, in one winter, in a prolonged attack, he injured two of me, and followed the third one in a dive . The two have fully recovered, the wounds being superficial.

How do you stop them

Was the damned thumping music really necessary??

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

I think so....I love music...everything u hear is produced by us

That Peregrine picked out that pigeon with the greatest of ease, are they young birds? As strong flying tight flocks of pigeons can confuse and out manoeuvre the best of Peregrines, as an ornithologists I have as much admiration for both birds as they both do what they're designed to do, I can understand the affinity with any bird being killed that you have nurtured and have a bond with but we have to except giving birds their freedom in the wild world can come at a cost, but I believe its a price worth paying, thanks for sharing this footage.

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

I believe we should be able to protect our birds from the falcon..just like you are allowed to protect your dog or cat....its not fair..given the fact that they are raising falcons in captivity then releasing them in the inner city's...its not fair

@josephking1947

Жыл бұрын

@@thepigeonmedia2713Thanks for your reply, I don't believe people should have domestic cats, for those that do, if you live in an environment that has bigger predators than the one you keep best you keep it indoors or get a bigger one than the ones outside, or better still don't get one at all, regarding dog's unless you can give it a good life people shouldn't have them, and for those that do and have concerns for predation they should already have good husbandry to prevent an occurrence at home, and common sense whilst out exercising the dog should narrow down an unfortunate situation. I was of the understanding after the DDT scenario that the release of captive Peregrines came to an end 20 plus years ago, I can't imagine people are releasing falcons without a licence, if they possess a licence for rehabilitation, I would like to think it would be validated by scientific research substantiating the necessity for the release. If you have any information on the recent release of Captive bred Peregrines I'd appreciate it. From my perspective the natural state overrides our interference with nature when it comes to are own interests, but a balance is required when it comes to farming and wildlife. Keep well

@kerbyjackson88

Жыл бұрын

​@josephking1947 In truth, most pigeons are no match to a Peregrine on the dive. In a flat chase, a pigeon can often outrun and outmaneuver them, but there will be many close calls for the pigeon. But if the falcon is above the pigeon, unless it's a young one, 95+% of the time, the pigeon will lose. I've seen it thousands of times. In any event, while it's true that Peregrines died out considerably from DDT and other issues, state and federal governments have aggressively introduced captive bred Peregrines to many areas dating back to the 1980s. The best figures I've seen indicate that about 6000 Peregrines have been released inside the U.S. since the mid 70's. In places, they've over proliferated themselves into nuisances. Most pigeon fliers can accept a few losses and say, "well, it's part of the game", but it's really went from a few losses to losing 50% to 90+% of a year's breeding production for many people. From a personal standpoint, I bred 135+ Birminghams last year and only five of them remain. Most of those kills and losses were made by Peregrines. I also lost a good number of Racing Homers. One British study on Peregrine predation of pigeons found that one single breeding pair of introduced Peregrines killed over 300 Racing Pigeons inside a single year, while other studies have recovered in excess of 150 pigeon bands from single nests. Needless to say, a single pair of Peregrines is capable of destroying an entire year's worth of breeding from a single pigeon breeder or inflicting very damaging losses on a couple of lofts. As a thrematologist, I really consider Birds of Prey, as well as Mountain Lions and introduced wolves, as the greatest threat in modern times to thousands of years of selective animal breeding. Currently, the legal balance dramatically favors the wild species over domestic animals, but I think a time is going to come when that view becomes less popular. In the last few years, a lot of people have come to realize how important agriculture is to human comfort and human survival. As a result, a lot of people have woken up to the idea that Domestic Animals are important to our own existance and there is a growing number who see the importance of protecting breeds of Domestic Animals on an equal footing with wild species.

@josephking1947

Жыл бұрын

@@kerbyjackson88 Peregrines have not been introduced to the British Isles, the nest sites were hear prior to any humans deciding to keep pigeons, if you choose to keep pigeons which amounts to keeping for fun you have no right to complain if the wild predators catch and eat them, if you don't like the idea of it, best not to keep them, a bit like driving a car you might not go out with the intention of crashing but that's the risk you take, if you check the medieval records of Peregrines nest sites they are no different today, its very simple if there is not enough food for them they will naturally reduce in numbers, if a pigeon knows the falcon is up there and is coming and has the opportunity to manoeuvre and roll, no Peregrine will catch it in the stoop.

@kerbyjackson88

Жыл бұрын

@josephking1947 Peregrines had a wide global distribution. Officially, there were no Peregrine re-introduction programs in the UK like here in the States, but I can tell you that some roller breeders have closely monitored what they believe were captive bred Peregrines that have been released in the UK. Even though no government programs appear to exist, rumors persist that it's taking place. I don't know how much experience you have with bird of prey predation of rollers, but I can tell you that if you have a pigeon that lacks the ability to control and "turn off the roll" during an attack, if that bird attempts to roll, 90% of the time, that is the bird that will be taken for the simple fact that they always have to slow their wing action down before the roll. It's part of their inherent performance mechanism and is ultimately an achilles heel where predators are concerned. This is in large part responsible for roller fliers stating, "what the falcons leave behind are just the culls". For years, it's been theorized that tumbling and rolling began as a predator avoidance behavior, but just about every Roller flier here in the States will tell you that even our slower Cooper's Hawks kill rollers in wholesale numbers over here. A pretty high number are killed before and after the roll. On a couple of occasions, I've seen birds killed by Peregrines in mid roll, and I've seen Peregrines actually kill GOOD Doneks in mid dive. Those Doneks were flat out screaming, but they're still no match for a Peregrine. He's simply better adapted. Some of your observations are certainly true of Peregrine predation of Common Pigeons, but they remain largely untrue where Rollers and other tumbling pigeons are concerned. The "problem " of course, is that these are not wild birds and they don't possess the same behavior or instincts as Commons or true wild species of Columbiformes. They are slow fliers by breeding selection and historically, birds that raced around like hyperactive swallows were culled out. Good rollers are easy prey for any bird hunting bird of prey. I've always theorized that we could probably, in theory, at least, breed pigeons that could consistently out-speed a Peregrine, but the problem is time. We can achieve some pretty radical and fast results as breeders in a short time period, more so than nature can do it in, but the Peregrine has a pretty big evolutionary head start on us. Unfortunately, that gap is too much for the human lifetime to catch up. Best records indicate that our Rollers are a result of about the last 800 to 1000 years of selection and most of it, in the last 150 to 200 years. It's pretty hard to compete with a species whose roots as an apex predator over other birds go back about five million years. In other words, pigeon fliers will continue to take their lumps from birds of prey until some remedy is figured out to limit losses. Obviously, one remedy is to simply not fly them at all, but at that point, we lose hundreds of years of selective breeding in a pretty short period, as the Show Roller debacle proved over here.

Now even tho you lost one the video was almost enough to call it even.

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

real talk...

type beat name?

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

Hip hop...made it myself

@kerbyjackson88

Жыл бұрын

@@thepigeonmedia2713 Cool, I had no idea.

I hate that bird 😡😡😡😡

@thepigeonmedia2713

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@kerbyjackson88

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. I love birds, but I hate BOPs.