A real telephone, recorded onto vinyl, sampled to digital audio, put into a scene with the wrong phone... pressed onto a DVD, bootlegged onto a CD with mpeg encoding, taped on to a VHS cassette in Extra Long Play mode... I fear the ring that we would hear.

@StrangeQuark

5 жыл бұрын

uploaded on youtube

@smocaine.

5 жыл бұрын

2006 youtube and downloaded/compressed

@BrandonStark0

5 жыл бұрын

then converted to mov, reuploaded to youtube in 2018 with pitch shift to keep it from being flagged for copyright infringement

@Kacpa2

5 жыл бұрын

Someone has to do it now xd

@Blade-hf9po

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats, I will now have nightmares over this.

"The only audio file guaranteed not to start an argument" I'm dying.

@salazarian

4 жыл бұрын

I don't get it...

@imark7777777

4 жыл бұрын

That could be sarcasm or it could be KZread restrictions or it could just be the de facto standard, still slightly confused

@OtakuUnitedStudio

4 жыл бұрын

@@imark7777777 The joke is that audiophiles will argue about anything that has to do with sound quality.

@salazarian

4 жыл бұрын

@@OtakuUnitedStudio AH ok. makes sense now lol

@kataseiko

4 жыл бұрын

A few years ago I was one of the organizers of a kids summer camp. These kids decided they didn't want to sleep until about 4am. We took shifts and woke up the kids the next morning at 9am (we're not monsters) with a very similar recording that one of the other organizers found online (well, a little bit).. The kids went to bed at 8pm the next evening without any resistance.

When I hear that distinct wobble in the pitch, I say to myself, “now THAT’s the sound of a REAL movie telephone.”

@yondie491

Ай бұрын

That's honestly likely why they did it. Audiences prefer less realistic effects if it "feels cinematic" after decades of being trained to expect a certain thing.

@dannypipewrench533

Ай бұрын

I have to say, I really do like how a movie telephone sounds.

@LRM12o8

28 күн бұрын

@yondie491 that sounds so stupid to me! 😂 But then again, I barely watch any movies. Only once in a blue moon does something peak my interest enough to go to the cinema... 😅 I also don't get the preference for 24Hz, as if obvious stutter or extreme blur would make a moving picture look more realistic. What I do get from it is motion sickness during long camera pans/rides though! 🙃👍

@yondie491

28 күн бұрын

@@LRM12o8 humans, amirite?

It's weird, but now that I'm paying attention to that fluctuation in pitch, I feel like most of the phone sound effects I've heard in movies/TV have always had that fluctuation. And I realized just now that for me, it actually evokes classic films and the cinematic experience. As a filmmaker myself, I may consciously choose to use a recording like that because there's something so familiar about it now.

@kyzf

Жыл бұрын

You get it. Sound designers and directors love these sounds because they evoke the older films they were raised on. They have an almost subconscious richness to them that most people won't notice.

@Sasi-ex5yn

2 ай бұрын

I love the film effect.

@daewooparts

Ай бұрын

I got so many of those Western Electric 500 telephones ☎️, my pops worked for the phone company ,also got the 554 wall sets as well as the 1500 & 2500 as well as Trimlines & the loved princess phone....even had payphones

@LRM12o8

28 күн бұрын

Only in the film industry do people view deliberately making the same mistakes as their predecessors instead of learning from them and doing better as a good thing! 🤦🙄 This is is why movies suck so much these days: instead of moving forward with new ideas and keeping to push the boundaries of realism with the new tech, they all just rehash the much more technologically restricted old stuff for no good reason!

@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv

25 күн бұрын

@@LRM12o8 Wilhelm to you, screamer.

I loved the ring when slamming the receiver. I miss that. So satisfying.

@CoolAsFreya

3 жыл бұрын

I want my iPhone to use the Haptic Touch to detect when I angrily hang up and make that sound 😂

@jimmyb1559

3 жыл бұрын

So funny. I miss that too. The other day I really needed to slam the receiver down on someone and had to just end the cell phone call like a wimp. Someone’s gotta think of an app!

@lukedodson3267

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyb1559 It's like storming out of a tent and trying to slam the flap.

@paulhaynes8045

3 жыл бұрын

No idea what you say in the States, but here in the UK we still say that someone put the phone down. Mind you, my kids understand the command to "pull the chain" after they've used the loo, when every toilet they've ever seen has a button or handle flush. And our road sign for a rail crossing features a cartoon silhouette of a steam engine, when trains haven't looked like that for over 60 years! I think I may have discovered a theme here...

@cryptfire3158

3 жыл бұрын

With the little iphones we have now.. i don't know how to slam the phone down to hang up to show how angry i am at telemarketers.

I just spent 15 minutes watching a video about a telephone ring... and damn, it was interesting!

@SilverSpoon_

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder what I am doing with my life too. I'm scared.

@sferg9582

5 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I stuck around long enough to read replies about a video on phone ringers.

@pepeonzima2444

5 жыл бұрын

You are geh

@bandombeviews6035

5 жыл бұрын

That sums this channel pretty well

@deim3

5 жыл бұрын

Back in my days you could say the same about Wikipedia. Its 4AM and I need to go to Uni tomorrow morning, yet I sit at a computer reading about Cambodian revolutionary party.

Back in the '80s I worked in an office where every everyone had a 2500 set. They all sounded identical!! If you were away from your desk and the phone rang, you had no idea if it was your phone or one of the other 25 phones in the office. I solved the problem by taking a hack saw to the bells in my phone and cut little notches in them. Now my phone ring was unique from all the others.

@amyhughes2149

3 ай бұрын

DIY ringtone

@orsonstarbuck

25 күн бұрын

That would bug me enough also to figure out a solution

You know, as a sound editor, I know about this problem, and yet I still use the pitch-shiftey sound fx if I need an old timey phone ring. There's something about it that just places you in the time period, and since most consumers don't understand what's going on, I think it does a good job of subconsciously indicating a vintage sound. Of course, I wouldn't use the same sound effect for a modern phone, and sometimes I do run into the problem of having old sounds in my library that I can't use because the pitch is a bit too warped.

@gizmoscowl1545

2 жыл бұрын

I was really secretly hoping for some crazy frog.

@TheHatchetwoman

Жыл бұрын

Some phones *did* sound like that, but if I remember correctly, it was usually cheaper phones that became available in the 80s. Some were quite flimsy, and the ring sounded anemic.

@simonro9168

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for mentioning not using that sound effect for modern phones. Always bothers me when modern TV shows use phones (mostly smartphones, but modern landline phones as well) sound like a 90s beeping ringtone.

@pgramsey1

5 ай бұрын

This is an extremely interesting observation. More people have heard the ringing of a Bell 500 with the distortions than without. So to their ears, the distorted sound is more genuine than the real one. If a movie maker actually did a "good" job of making an accurate recording of one it would sound wrong to the audience. It's not the only place where movies have distorted our sense of reality so much that reality seems unreal.

@Sasi-ex5yn

2 ай бұрын

Terminator 2 used that famous ring with a DIGITAL phone!

Former Broadcast Engineer here. Certain sound effects were deliberately altered so listeners wouldn't answer their own phones! Some SFX such as sirens were prohibited by FCC Regs if the broadcast could be heard by drivers who might swerve off the road. But I've heard your 33-1/3 recording with it's unmistakable wow everywhere, sometimes with a click from a scratched record! (Check out the opening title of the Rockford Files!) Oh! And # is officially called a "number sign" in the US, and a "hash" in UK. Like what US people end sentences with a "period," and the British do it with a "full stop." Winston Churchill famously remarked, "England and the United States are two great nations divided by a common language."

@frequentflyer56

5 жыл бұрын

Spot on mate full stop number sign good job!

@wonniewarrior

5 жыл бұрын

We always called It the Numbers # sign in Australia. As in # 3 (number 3) and so on. Sadly the youngies nowadays call it the hash tag. I get that language or symbols change over time though. Also here we say Route as Rout, not Root as the US says it. It weird saying Root 45 when it spelt (to us) as rout 45 (Root has a diff slang meaning in the commonwealth as well).

@bcafed

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the official name of a #, is octothorpe. The rest are colloquialisms.

@Aro666pl

5 жыл бұрын

Im still picking up my phone when one rings on movie

@davidkaminski615

5 жыл бұрын

@@wonniewarrior I've heard route pronounced both ways here in America. Just depends on which regional dialict you hear it from.

I'm just glad his name wasn't Alexander Graham Siren.

@HemlockRidge

5 жыл бұрын

HA! I like that!

@nthgth

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 brilliant

@nthgth

4 жыл бұрын

@Eli Z "stealing" is the wrong word there

@nthgth

4 жыл бұрын

@Eli Z god damn it. That's not how comedy works...

@Scolio

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that from an old George Carlin special?

I really miss calling for the exact time and hearing "at the tone the time will be ..."

@Sahuagin

2 жыл бұрын

those services are still available

@johnd5398

2 жыл бұрын

You should really get a hobby.

@kovyvuri

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnd5398 nah you need to more

@vlfreak

2 жыл бұрын

discontinued in australia a couple of years ago :(

@obeseperson

Жыл бұрын

@@johnd5398 do you subscribe to this channel just to shit talk and leave angry comments? Get a life or some friends or something dude goddamn

I’ve worked sound for film, both pre and post production, and I will say, I simultaneously sympathize with the frustration of hearing subpar individual sound effects, and with the hard working folks who placed those sound effects. Production can absolutely bust their butts knocking it out of the park in terms of on set sound capture, and post production will still have their work cut out for them in terms of crafting a believable soundscape that serves the story. Sometimes you just grab whatever sound file you can find in the limited timeframe you have. Sometimes you switch to something that “sounds right” which is different from what is “historically accurate.” With something as particular as a phone ring, directors almost always have their hands in the cookie jar, which is completely valid, as it impacts scene pacing, but that throws another iron in the fire. At the end of the day, a phone ring matching the receiver model or even being clean (without flutter or warble) takes a back seat to the serving of the narrative. It’s entirely possible that a director or sound designer first tried a crisp new digital recording, and preferred a distorted recording for its “vintage” sound. WE notice of course, and are offput by that choice, but most folks just hear “old timey phone.” If I were in charge of, say, Wandavision... I’d be rushing out to sample that Dick Van Dyke ringtone for use on my show just for the esoteric reference, with zero regard for the accuracy of the ringtone to the onscreen handsets. Heck, it probably IS an alarm clock and not a phone at all... but that almost makes it interesting, and almost makes it a foible worth repeating for old times sake. Are there truly no top quality recordings of these ringers? I have an extremely high quality 32bit float 196k digital recorder and some top notch microphones if that’s what needs to happen.

@ilmt

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what came to my mind - that I would bet they had a mic on the set of the Terminator and then they realized/decided that the accurate sound just didn't feel right for some artistic reason.

Man, ascending and descending phone rings in films have driven me insane for ages, but I always assumed it was just some sort of Doppler effect due to a moving mic. Thanks for the explanation. Now my rage can be properly directed.

@boggy7665

4 жыл бұрын

It always bothered me too. I figured it was flutter in the filming, thought surely they had an actual bell that a stagehand was operating. Nope, double-flutter. Source tape flutter added to the master film soundtrack flutter.

@Furienna

4 жыл бұрын

And I don't hear a difference at all. Lucky me, I guess.

@williamreid6255

2 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: The sound designer from _Star Wars_ (can’t remember their name, unfortunately) recorded the sound of a lightsaber by recording the frequencies from static & interference on a CRT TV. The changes in pitch you hear when a lightsaber moves were caused by a moving microphone, similar to, as you described, the Doppler Effect.

@MisterNohbdy

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamreid6255 ...That's actually super neat, thanks ^_^ I don't know why I never looked that up! Ben Burtt is the guy, and I know that because I *did* look him up when researching who the hell decided every single film in the series needed a Wilhelm scream as a running gag, but apparently after looking up how he did TIE fighter sounds and the like I stopped before getting to the iconic saber hum.

@williamreid6255

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisterNohbdy Yeah I know about the Wilhelm scream and all that he did, my brain just decided to off itself when I was leaving the comment last night and so I couldn’t remember his name :( Edit: Also, I just remembered, the Wilhelm scream (technically) first appeared in the 1951 film _Distant Drums_ where a man was being eaten by an alligator (dw, they didn’t show anything graphic). The most recognizable version of the scream, however, comes from _The Charge at Feather River,_ a 1953 western. The character Private Wilhelm (dk who played him) was sitting on his horse filling his pipe, when suddenly someone fires an arrow into his left leg, causing him to fall off his horse out of surprise, and triggering the most iconic scream in cinema history.

Highschool teachers would talk about WW2 and make it seem so uninteresting (I love history) But you managed to get me to watch 15 min on a telephone ring. Bravo

@eonstar

4 жыл бұрын

@@LogiForce86 the problem with why in history is that it's always going to be subjective.

@Yahriel

4 жыл бұрын

if you liked this video, you should check out all the videos he's made about lightbulbs

@DiegoMartinez-ti1vd

4 жыл бұрын

LogiForce86 underrated comment of the month award

@marcfuchs6938

4 жыл бұрын

It's simple to examine why. Teachers do a job to make money, rarely do they do their stuff with passion. This guy here does every supposedly boring topic with passion, so it turns out entertaining. Teachers can do the same, if they really find joy in the stuff they teach. Sadly, it's not a common sight.

@Superabound2

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcfuchs6938 is actually because most teachers are bitter sexless women who failed at becoming anything else. This guy is just a really smart dude with a passion for nerdy shit

I had forgotten how grating the sound of the landline ringing was. Thanks for explaining how this works and how Hollywood uses the sounds in movies.

@stevecooper2873

Жыл бұрын

As I recall, it was mean to convey a sense of urgency. And, be distinct from your old wind-up alarm clock.

I remember as a kid asking myself, "why would they fake the ring?". I could hear that wow quite easily

@tilasole3252

Жыл бұрын

Same reason a woman fakes it...

Phone the telephone company is responsible for fixing: indestructible. Phone the subscriber is responsible for fixing: shatters if looked at funny.

@StrayGuitarist

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, naturally. If you were paying for people's phones, you'd want them to last forever. But if they're buying them from you.. why put all that engineering effort in? Just make 'em eviscerate if you toss it onto your bed too sternly, and have them buy another.

@goopah

5 жыл бұрын

@@StrayGuitarist "... if you toss it onto your bed too sternly..." For some reason, the image of someone "sternly" tossing their phone onto a bed made me laugh.

@StrayGuitarist

5 жыл бұрын

@@goopah Hehe, guess it is a pretty odd phrasing. Glad to have made you laugh though, I was hoping I'd be able to pick vocabulary out-there enough to assemble something funny.

@jamiehanrahan4705

5 жыл бұрын

The phone company was not only responsible for fixing or replacing a broken phone; they also were responsible for sending a tech to your house to diagnose whatever problem you were having! They really didn't want to do that, so they made the phones reliable.

@Jenek66

5 жыл бұрын

I grew up with one of the wall units. I miss that ring. However I don't miss the mile long, forever getting twisted into knots phone cord.

You missed a golden opportunity to say that the sounding designers of those shows/movies were just... phoning it in.

My first foray into telephone vandalism included: Swapping the bells in two 1500 so that one would ring with the high tone, the other ring with the low tone, Then removing the plastic dampers from the bells so that the ring had a much longer sustain. (My office had two lines so that I could call one phone from the other to hear the results of my tampering.) I also discovered that the electronics in the AT&T phones were highly potted so what was going on inside was even more mysterious. Thanks for the videos, brings back so many memories.

Phone guy for 45 years. Now retired. That sound is so dear to my heart!! Thanks! As an aside, the voice quality of the 5xx series had a very distinctive sound to it. It's hard to explain but if you want to hear it, search for an old country music song. Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn singing "As soon as I hang up the phone" Conway had two PSTN lines ran into the studio to make this song happen instead of using two extensions off of the electronic system he had as (with him and Loretta being musicians) he knew the sound would not be perfect. The result is classic! Good stuff! I miss the job.

1:57 my guy really just dialed 8675309

@TMWSTW-hy5ph

4 жыл бұрын

It's a dead number no matter the area code. If the phone was plugged no one got a random call then luckily. Also, a good catch didn't notice it.

@erniemiller1953

4 жыл бұрын

When that song came out, an enterprising pimp would have bought that number.

@aarhead01

4 жыл бұрын

Lalna Rocks there’s a car garage in my city that actually has that number

@HoyaSaxaSD

4 жыл бұрын

Justice Elena Kagan (probably the funnest and funniest Supreme Court Justice, even if you totally disagree with her jurisprudence) once used that number in a Supreme Court opinion

@LeoStaley

4 жыл бұрын

@@HoyaSaxaSD Oliver Wendell Holmes was the funniest supreme court justice, despite the fact that he made a bunch of shit rulings.

Now you've cursed us all to never be able to un-notice when this specific phone sound in a movie is badly sampled.

@brentfisher902

6 жыл бұрын

And if somebody pointed out interlaced television scanning, you will not un-see it until you get a flat panel TV.

@Yotanido

6 жыл бұрын

Unless you watch an interlaced video on that flat panel TV, which will make it oh so much worse...

Those coughs at the “hashtag” literally jumpscared me

@jamesmcinnis208

20 күн бұрын

"literally"

10:47 i love the "Airplane!" reference there

Was nothing like slamming the phone down on someone. It's just not the same anymore

@boingkster

5 жыл бұрын

Seinfeld had a great skit about it - *Slams phone down* "Yeah!" vs *Looks for and tediously pokes a button* "Ah, that sure showed them!"

@EmeraldEyesEsoteric

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we need to make smart phones with a "slam" button that will play something annoying and hang up

@russellnadin2480

5 жыл бұрын

Shout "BANG!" before disconnecting your smart phone call.

@somecallmelyte6173

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing like the sassy snap of a flip phone haha

@bletheringfool

5 жыл бұрын

you can slam your thumb down

As a kid, when I mostly watched older movies and cartoons, I used to notice the "wow" all the times. Growing up together with the technology I heard it less and less until I eventually forgot about it. You just brought it back and explained it at a technical level, and every minute of it all was beatifully entertaining and fun. You rightfully earned one more subscriber.

@ebnertra0004

3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing wows all the time in movies when I was a kid, and that was only 20 or so years ago. The memories brought back from hearing that wonky pitch...

Shirley there is a missed opportunity at the end of this video to ask us to ‘ring the bell’. Fantastic work as always - your editing continues to inspire us smaller KZreadrs!

@amfm889

Жыл бұрын

And don't call me Shirley.

@sourcererseven3858

Ай бұрын

It might be just because I'm old, but I remember a time when youtube didn't have a bell. You just subscribed, and got notified, none of this newfangled algorriphm stuff! Gosh-dang whippersnappers... Anyway, maybe this video pre-dates the "bell of ensured notification"? I can't actually recall when they introduced that 😆

@jamesmcinnis208

20 күн бұрын

​@sourcererseven3858 "actually"

Those rotary dials where actually quite painful on the fingers after awhile- this is why people so often used pencils, pens, etc.

@tilasole3252

Жыл бұрын

I used to play with one as a child and I am speaking of a real rotary phone. I can not remember it do that, but I remember trying to catch my finger on the hook/backstop. Haha! What I do remember using a pencil on is a cassette tape, although you could squeeze your finger into it as well, those little spikes did hurt after twisting the cassette tape in a circle around your finger or you kept pulling and pushing your finger into the wheel grooves.

@wayneyadams

Жыл бұрын

We need to bring the rotary dial back and force telemarketers to use it.

@petertensuda1192

Жыл бұрын

I had forgotten that, you are so right.

@patrickhouston2610

11 ай бұрын

@@tilasole3252 same as you say all over the world.

@davidweston9115

10 ай бұрын

Or a Tiffany's sterling silver telephone dialer... which Holly Golightly politely refused to buy in her movie with George Peppard.

Don't get me started on how some modern shows have British telephones making the same ringing pattern as American ones. Phones in the UK had an initial long ring, followed by ring pairs, but it seems that a distressing number of young sound designers are just searching for "telephone ring" on the Internet and using the first one that they find...

@CallieMasters5000

5 жыл бұрын

Swiss phones have another ring altogether.

@davidewhite69

5 жыл бұрын

Australian phones had the same ring as the British phones

@nkt1

5 жыл бұрын

Jonty Speaks Exactly.

@cool386vintagetechnology6

28 күн бұрын

@@davidewhite69 there was actually an Australian TV series from the late 60's where the phones were ringing with the U.S. cadence. Stuck out like the proverbial.

people who have only ever had a cell phone will never experience the satisfaction of slamming a receiver into the cradle I'm almost sad for them

@EverlastingHobnocker

4 жыл бұрын

I remember the last time time I did that, when I was somehow caught in the middle of an argument between my husband and his brother. Husband had gone out, brother called wanting to talk to him and didn't believe me telling him he wasn't there and even cussing at me. "He's not here! Good-BYE!" Slam.

@Bluebelle51

4 жыл бұрын

@@EverlastingHobnocker I had the ex boyfriend from hell who even after I told him I didn't want to see him anymore, kept calling and calling. finally I said, "Call me one more time and I'm getting a restraining order" and slammed the phone down it felt sooooooooooo good

@mrmaniac3

4 жыл бұрын

Haw yeah poor relationships yee haw

@Bluebelle51

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrmaniac3 emotional satisfaction at ending poor relationships

@mrmaniac3

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bluebelle51 fair 🤷

Wow, nostalgia is amazing - I love that tone shift, I always thought it was just American phones, I actually thought there was something wrong with your phone because they sounded so bland. Even after you explained the travesty of what they’d done, I still preferred the slow warped ringing sound from the vinyl recording, like the whammy bar on a electric guitar

“if you hear flutter in the sound of a phone, then you know you’re listening to an analog tape recording.” *phone rings* sounds like someone rattling a spoon in a ceramic bowl....

All these years later and I finally find out we could have changed the volume so easily...

@millomweb

4 жыл бұрын

Have you now learnt to read instruction manuals ?

@greggl3258

3 жыл бұрын

Omg, I totally forgot you could even do this!! 😂

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

I knew this because as a kid I disassembled the phone and put it back together.

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

@@millomweb the bt version did not come with a manual

@millomweb

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogwalker666 Pretty sure all BT phones came with a manual.

I wonder if the incorrect recording in the Dick Van Dyke show was a deliberate decision by the producers to avoid confusion with their viewers mistaking it for their own phone ringing during the show. If basically during that era everyone's phone sounded the same then this may have been considered a customer service action to deliberately have an incorrect ring sound.... or it could have just been laziness :)

@LRM12o8

5 жыл бұрын

That's a good thought, but wouldn't the ring in the show sound quite different than a phone ringing in your living room, because sound quality on 70/80's TV's was pretty shitty, right? I don't know, I wasn't around, but I think you'd hear an obvious difference between a Low-Fi recording played back over (by today's standard) horrible speakers and the sound of the actual thing.

@informativt

5 жыл бұрын

There's a whole lot to this, and some of it is still valid. FM has its own requirements (because not everything will take up the same amount of bandwidth when played on FM) or in the case of USA, signal notes to trigger ads, nuclear alerts, and what have you. There is all sort of strange side-channel stuff :)

@mattbartley2843

5 жыл бұрын

Good point! Ringing phones, and to a lesser extent car horns, on TV were and still are a pet peeve of mine.

@bgundercover

5 жыл бұрын

Many homes back in the day had a set of bells on the hall or kitchen that sounded similar to ring in this show. These ringers had a 4 inch bell and also had a chine mode. WE F1A. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nHqV28OEgJrdYdo.html

@morrisonAV

4 жыл бұрын

@@bgundercover That's kinda what I remember as well. If you had those 4-prong wall sockets for your phone (VERY cutting edge compared to all phones being hard wired to the wall), I think the phone company would install a wall-mounted ringer to let you know you had an incoming call in case you had unplugged your phone and forgot to plug it back in again. Could that be what we were hearing in the Dick Van Dyke scene?

The visual joke on the Pound key is so subtle and so perfect lmaooooooo. I absolutely love your sense of humor, from subtle jokes like that to your often deadpan delivery to your running joke about "the power of buying two of them" with its recent incredible payoff in your video following up on the dishwasher detergent thing (for anyone who hasn't seen it, go watch "I messed up. You're using too much detergent." right now, it is so worth it even tho the video is long).

I use KZread since age 12 and this channel is my favourite so far. I cant stress how good your videos are, Alec!

@JoshuaTootell

Жыл бұрын

Definitely making me feel old

The two bells weren't always quite in tune. This caused a beat frequency unrelated to recording problems. It bugged me so much as a child I took all six house phones apart and sorted the bells to get the best ring from each pair. A little known option on 500 sets were alternate bells pairs for use in offices with nearby phones, even on the same desk. AFAIK it was seldom requested.

@RCAvhstape

6 жыл бұрын

You had SIX phones in your house? When I was little having more than one was a luxury. Kids who got their own phones were the cool rich kids.

@RMoribayashi

6 жыл бұрын

Lease fees were pretty low in the 70's. I was so much of a phone nerd my parents leased two gadgets from the business office for me. A speakerphone and a card dialer, which used cards you punched out with your friends numbers to save you all that button pushing. It was great for calling into radio station contests. For three years with the exception of clothes the lease fees were my christmas and birthday presents. I think it saved my mom and dad money compared to the toys I would have got.

@bobbyslater1198

6 жыл бұрын

My dad worked for the phone company. We even had the clip-on phone that they used on the telephone poles.

@RMoribayashi

6 жыл бұрын

Lucky, I always wanted a real butt set.

@ClydeShaffer

6 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't that cause more of a tremolo (fluctuating volume) effect than a vibrato (fluctuating pitch) effect?

9:09 You can also see that he starts turning before the ring actually starts. Whoever added it in post didn't time it very well.

@autumnmuse9915

4 жыл бұрын

I think I can hear a subtle cue ring a beat before the recorded ring.

And now I know why I love going back to watch "older" videos on KZread. Thank you!

I must say you have some great videos. Its like the perfect combination of history and science together.

"the only audiophile (file) guarenteed not to start an argument“ I had to sit down I was laughing so hard!

@pineapplescat

4 жыл бұрын

i dont get it

@Metahec

4 жыл бұрын

@Thu Nell Ⓥ A music lover is somebody who uses audio equipment to listen to their music. An audiophile is somebody who uses music to listen to their audio equipment.

12:46 In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone he strikes the same rib twice in succession yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we- to believe that this is some sort of a-a magic xylophone or something??? Boy I really hope someone got fired for that blunder!

I think the phone ring in T2 is as iconic as the "Wilhelm Scream". Or the creaky door that is used in almost every video game and movie. I think the use of these sounds is 3 fold. Paying homage to the source (even if that is lost to time). These are the sounds we are used to this object making. And finally... people are lazy. If someone has already created a sound you need, why recreate the wheel?

@sourcererseven3858

Ай бұрын

I think there is a fourth fold: This was the early era (relatively speaking) of both phones _and_ TV, so maybe they simply wanted to make sure that no viewers would get confused and try to answer their phone, maybe even shutting off the TV to do so. Not sure about the timeline, but this may even be prior to every TV being shipped with a remote, and of course the phone would be out in the hall. A far cry from today's "mute TV and pull your phone from your pocket" 😆 Not that anyone still uses ring tones... Or TVs...

@LRM12o8

28 күн бұрын

It's especially #3. I'd even say 100% #3 and the other two are just poor excuses for the laziness.

@LRM12o8

28 күн бұрын

@sourcererseven3858 I don't think so. If you couldn't distinguish between the ringing coming from your landline vs out of your TV speakers back then, then you must have been really hard of hearing! 1. Most people could easily locate wether the ringing came from the TV right in front of them, or from the hallway further away. 2. Most old CRT TVs had a really echo-y and undetailed sound. The sound coming from your TV would sound nowhere near as crisp and clear, as the sound of the actual bells in your telephone 3. Also, every single unit had a somewhat different tone to its ring (The ones shown in the video are a half-step apart!), so the tone of the telephone in the movie wouldn't match anyway. Most people would (subconsciously) realize those slight differences in pitch to their own phone, which they've heard ring a thousand times and are very familiar with, even if they couldn't tell a half-tone difference in two unfamiliar sounds. 4. Finally, the volume of the rong from the TV would seldomly match the volume of your actual telephone. So yeah, I don't believe this was much of an issue at all!

@sourcererseven3858

28 күн бұрын

@@LRM12o8 not saying it was an actual issue, I'm saying it might have been a _concern_ the producers may have wanted to address preemptively. Your points are all valid.

It is unbelievable that I watched argo litterally yesterday. This video wasn't even in my feed! I was just digging through your back catalog for something interesting!

I never noticed this until now but at 2:31...that's the New Emergency Number from The IT Crowd hahaha

@tegneren

4 жыл бұрын

I cant believe you noticed that, i had to go back and look. He even had a pause before the last 3

@funposting8912

4 жыл бұрын

This is my second watch though and I only noticed it now. I’m disappointed in myself.

@rubenp8750

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@aaronw0813

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed when watching the first time without seeing the comment

@blakejohnson9823

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed it within 4 digits

I bet that wow and flutter was actually sought after by the film audio crews... it made it more "cinematic"! ;)

@rojax_thevoicetm2385

4 жыл бұрын

@Pooh Xi and then there's me, buying ripped jeans on Amazon, feeling _incredibly_ called out.

@aterack833

4 жыл бұрын

RoJax_TheVoice TM *installs a broken windshield* later losers

@aterack833

4 жыл бұрын

I think a few movies do it that way

@rojax_thevoicetm2385

4 жыл бұрын

@@aterack833 homie over her living in 3020, try to keep up y'all

@samreagan6292

4 жыл бұрын

That’s so true. I thought that the wow was the true sound of an old phone.

Damn you!!!! You added added to my already too extensive library of common movie mistakes I will involuntarily look for while watching a movie, instead of enjoying it like a sane person would.

The Matrix series used Model 500s in various places. Some shows purposely use wrong sounds for various reasons: licensing, copyright, reality immersion, or just to dig at people like you and me for noticing it. Model 500s are so resilient that they're the only phone guaranteed to outlast a Nokia cuz they're still in use today, unlike Nokia phones. Side note: Cable MTAs will not accept pulse-tone dialing. I work for a cable ISP and had to tell a customer their kitchen phone can only receive calls, not make them. They were cool with it.

When I hear that ringing sound, I always expect to it to be followed by "This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I'll get back to you."

@johngamble5270

3 жыл бұрын

That's the one that I thought he'd go with -- The Rockford Files phone ring was really distinctly "off". You could tell even on an old 1970s TV.

Lol I used to drive my wife mad by picking up on this on TV "hah! That phone's a statesman but the ring was from a viscount" for some inexplicable reason this got me labelled geek

@GeorgeTsiros

3 жыл бұрын

next time, you can point out other inaccuracies, like, "the car sounds like it is increasing its engine speed forever" or "if they were really upside down, their clothes and hair would hang out" or "an electric shock does not make you jump away" etc

@Wockes

3 жыл бұрын

hi geek

@rexjolles

3 жыл бұрын

Because a geek would know a phone ring by the sound

@rexjolles

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeTsiros well actually a high enough shock will cause your muscles to spasm and launch you

@jb888888888

3 жыл бұрын

I really hope someone got fired for that blunder.

the only audio file guaranteed never to start an argument... oh jesus one of the best lines of your whole channel!

I'm not used to seeing Cheers footage that clear. Awesome video all around as usual

@shaneharrisnj3484

4 ай бұрын

And I'm surprised that Paramount didn't throw a strike at him for using that footage. After all, Cheers (just like Frasier, Happy Days, MacGyver and Becker) is a Paramount Television distributed show.

"Ghostbusters, whaddya want!" Best film line ever

@nicklikesradio

4 жыл бұрын

Ghostbustahz

@Ciborium

4 жыл бұрын

Right up there with "Picking up or dropping off?"

@TheSmart-CasualGamer

4 жыл бұрын

From one of the best films ever.

Personally, i hate the metallic "shwanng" sound inserted when someone is supposedly drawing a sword. A scabbard is padded for the protection of the blade, you know.

@ArtfullyGifted

5 жыл бұрын

John T. DiFool Me too! I own many different blades and attend renaissance festivals so I'm very familiar with how quiet it is.

@philiplubduck6107

5 жыл бұрын

is it truly quiet? I understand it may be very well exaggerated for emphasis, but I feel like in the year 1,200 for example that it would be more of metal on metal, maybe lined with fur or leather but that would end up blood soaked and not rinse out very well.

@Ghorda9

5 жыл бұрын

@philip more like metal on wood/leather

@macmcleod1188

5 жыл бұрын

I dislike that it, like the "Eagle Cry" is the *same* sound. I watched a movie where they actualy foleo'd different sliding sounds and at least it was different new sliding sounds. They might be wrong but they didn't pull me out of my suspension of disbelief.

@josephnicholas6159

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that it's not even an eagle. The sound that every movie uses for an eagle is actually a red-tailed hawk.

Low key one of the channel’s most savage videos. Do more like this.

I absolutely LOVE the editing of the phone button from "#" to the British Pound Sign at 1:30! Just another one of those little details that help make your videos awesome!

How about "The Obviously Dubbed Children Laughing" sound effect. You know the one. Every movie playground establishing shot sounds exactly the same.

@Gys1231

6 жыл бұрын

Dennis Comella ah yeah the Diddy laugh...

@theuglybiker

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the same screech you hear every time you see a hawk fly across the screen.....or an eagle......or a falcon..... All the owls sound the same, too.

@goopah

5 жыл бұрын

@@theuglybiker You are ruining all of my favorite films!

@Ferny1981Utube

5 жыл бұрын

Or the infamous WIlhelm screAAAAUHHHH-UHHHH-OOOH

@floofytown

5 жыл бұрын

GAHH THAT ONE BUGS THE CRAP OUTTA ME

By now it's basically a staple like the Wilhelm scream (which also drives me bananas when I hear it).

@TechnologyConnections

6 жыл бұрын

I was tempted to title the video "The Wilhelm Ring", but I was worried not enough people would get it.

@MechanizedFantasy

6 жыл бұрын

You severely underestimate the capacity for autism on the internet. lol.

@rars0n

6 жыл бұрын

The Wilhelm scream instantly kills my suspension of disbelief more than just about anything, perhaps only being rivaled by "clay pot shattering."

@brentfisher902

6 жыл бұрын

Coming to a Dwarf near you...

@fwiffo

6 жыл бұрын

Tom5tom Entertainment I was going to say the same thing. The ring tone "mistake" in Terminator 2 was almost certainly an Easter egg, considering how obsessive the sound design was in that movie.

thank you for the pound key gag. That was hilarious.

@eddierayvanlynch6133

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, he could have gone a number of ways with that one.

@TlalocTemporal

2 жыл бұрын

@@eddierayvanlynch6133 -- Just be glad he wasn't Square and didn't try to call it the Octothorp. That would have put his Sharp wit Equal And Parallel To a game of Tic-Tac-Toe. Oof.

@denelson83

2 жыл бұрын

@@eddierayvanlynch6133 Well, that button actually started out being marked with a hollow diamond.

@MrRrainbeau

2 жыл бұрын

Especially when it switched from”#” to “£” !

Dude, slamming down that handset hard enough to make the bells ring was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SATISFYING! God, I miss that.

2:30 Don’t think I wouldn’t notice you calling the Emergency Services. Did you know that they have faster response times and better looking drivers? It’s best not to email them though...I so wasn’t expecting to see that IT Crowd reference, especially since I didn’t notice it when I first watched this video when it came out, but I am so happy I did. Great video as always, and I love this channel!

@nelsonglover3963

3 жыл бұрын

He even went back for the 3 😂 can’t believe I missed that before

@jakeinator21

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who caught this! At first I saw him just dialing numbers and thought it was random, but I started paying attention right around when he dial 911, and what really tipped me off was him coming back for the 3. Once I saw that I backed it up and watched to make sure my suspicion was correct. Brilliant.

@BrickNewton

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I missed that, to busy having memories of using these types of phones as a kid in the early 80's.

@SnoFitzroy

Жыл бұрын

"better looking drivers" this company is inferior, their drivers aren't sexy!

My grandma used the same rotary phone from the 50s all the way up to 2001.

@the-chillian

4 жыл бұрын

So did mine. At some point they put a new slip behind the dial with a fully numeric phone number on it, but it had a tear in it for some reason and you could see the old number with the named exchange (HEmlock) below. It worked out to the same number, so I don't know why they bothered.

@funposting8912

4 жыл бұрын

At what point did you go from nightcore uploads to /k/ memes?

@xapplimatic

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too. Until the day she left her home for the older living apartment… that same phone sat there year after year so dutifully working…. And I remember the pulse (ahem!) Rotary dial phone that it replaced. I use to like swirling that stupid dial to call numbers. Even though it would have been a terrible thing if you had to call 911.. Probably why they chose the number 911 because 9 means you mean it, it's not an accidental nudge but 1 1 makes it faster to dial on older phones rather than 9 9 9… lol.. Just a guess.

@MrHans818

4 жыл бұрын

They lasted forever unlike today where everything is meant to wear out. I would kill to have my old wall rotary back.

@edwinsuijkerbuijk5106

4 жыл бұрын

hooking up these old phones can be hard to do these days. as most "modern" phones only use 2 of the 4 wires, and many modern home phone systems no longer put current on the other 2 wires. With these older phones that can cause issues as often they drew current for the bell ringing system from the other 2 wires. So if you hook one of these old ringing phones up it might not ring properly.

Thank you for calling it the pound sign/key. That honestly made my day

Oh damn, there was a 554 in the basement of the house i basically grew up in. I used it because i could even though there were newer phones in the house since i thought it was super neat. Rotary phones were neat as hell too.

@zacharyalvernaz7916

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up with a Rotary dial in my basement. Even though I was born in 90, it was the only phone that worked when the power went out.

@ronb6182

Жыл бұрын

Bring back the land line and rotary dial. If you have the old pre 50's you can dial the numbers by hitting the hang up button. My friend taught me how to do it. The buttons were flat on top and was easier and the finger didn't slip off. The newer ones were hard to click the pulses. Also I used to play Yankee doodle on the DTMF buttons. Cell phones are boring. Ok guess I could have my own phone system at home by using a phone line simulator. Makes a good intercom and can program my own numbers to dial. I could make a KZread video. Oh the last thing I missed is when you made a long distance phone call like from Pittsburgh to Lakeland Florida you could hear the computer sounds before the call was connected. 73

@20chocsaday

Жыл бұрын

We had a Bakelite phone. Felt solid and heavy. The cords were covered in woven black cotton.

I bought a house in 1991 from an old lady who never went outside til the day her kids put her in a home. When I changed over the utilities I found out that she had been paying RENT on that old black phone (Hardwired into the wall) for 40 years...

@beckigreen

6 жыл бұрын

Niklas Theelder I found out the same thing when I visited an older friend of mine back in 2003. I did the math, I can’t remember the amount now, but it was well over $2K.

@LRM12o8

5 жыл бұрын

WOW! That was an expensive phone! I bet some show-off apple fanboys will get jealous off this, lol!

@raymondkitchen6137

5 жыл бұрын

When my grandfather died and grandmother went into a nursing home, we found out they were still leasing/renting their phone. It was 2003!!!!! The bill, $15.00 every three months.

@tanyahyde5913

5 жыл бұрын

I worked for a guy in Auburn, WA who, upon moving his shop discovered he had been paying $5 a month lease on a model 500 for nearly 30 years. Robust phone but hardly worth that kind of money.

@KevinWta

5 жыл бұрын

Tanya Hyde Most of those 30 years you had to lease the phone. Owning a phone back then was against the law.

13:43. The bell you hear is actually an automatic Electric bell box from the late 50's. I have this in my collection and it LOUD

@KairuHakubi

4 жыл бұрын

so phones being dubbed with even older phones was a thing even back then

Sooo nice to see that you analysed this. I notice since many many years that the telefon bell rings in most of american movies identical.

OMG I LOVE YOU. The "wow" always bugged me, and I never knew why, or what caused it!! Also: I've always thought the DVD Show phones used the type of bells that were in gas stations then, separate and located in the bay for loudness. ALSO: If you do a video about "Automatic Electric" phones from CA and FL way back when....I will send you big bucks!!

"Ghostbustas, whaddaya want?"

@EmeraldEyesEsoteric

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, my father created a demon summoning portal inside our house, which his witchcraft books clearly said should only be made outside, and our house has been haunted ever since, even though he is no longer with us.

@TCM464

5 жыл бұрын

So much New York

@5:23 This shot is a famous error in the film, "he is talking on a handset which has an RJ (Registered Jack) style connector. These style jacks were not introduced until the mid 1970s as ordered by the FCC."

My grandfather built and maintained teletype communications systems during WWII, and went to work building out the original telecommunications infrastructure in the US after the war. I still have all his old telephony theory and practice books that describe the mechanical switching systems for the pulse rotary system. That same type black rotary phone sat on his home office desk for my entire life, and most of my mother and aunts as well. I will never forget that ring, or the fact that it never broke, and still works to this day. One of those things they just don't make like they used to.

Never thought I'd be sitting through a 15 min video about phone ringers, but here I am, and it was surprisingly fascinating

Someone added it to the IMDB page, even going as far as mentioning that it was a vinyl recording

@omikronweapon

4 жыл бұрын

probably the same dude as the uploade of this. AKA the only person who ever noticed in the first place, or cared enough to time it. He was like "did you hear it, it's really noticeable isn't it?" and I'm like "sounds perfectly fine to me" Not to mention that he didn't even mean the ring itself, but rather the chiming out. With someone talking over it!

@Evil_Chronic

4 жыл бұрын

OmikronWeapon I noticed it before he showed what part it was. It’s not hard to hear the pitch changing. But then again I’ve always had good ears, I can hear things others can’t all the time. Then a few seconds later they hear it, and go “wow, how’d you do that?”.

I have three of these phones in my house and it’s 2019 and they’re all functional

@GGorsty

4 жыл бұрын

In a way, i envy thee.

@alitlweird

4 жыл бұрын

Pilot Paul me too. A black one, a Brady Bunch™️ green one, and a clear one.

@debraketchner4438

4 жыл бұрын

They don't make 'em like they used to!

@millomweb

4 жыл бұрын

I've 1 trad phone. It has a very nice ring AND never needs new batteries !

@dogwalker666

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the system is still backwards compatible with loop disconnect.

Thanks for pointing out the Ringers in T2 and the pitch thing.. I never noticed/realised it.. now it's all I'll be able to focus on!

Sometimes you absolutely crack me up. This video was one of those times. Pound key! Thanks! Dave J (Have to mention, I grew up on off-center vinyl discs, so everything digital just sounds fake to me).

Growing up we had a wall model and when my dad saw there was a $400 phone bill, between my mother calling my grandmother in Florida and my sister calling her boyfriend in Alabama, my dad ripped the phone off the wall and threw it across the room. The only damage was a small piece of plastic cracked off, but it still was in perfect condition.The floor on the other hand had a huge dent. Plus we had the "cordless" model. The 50' cord, stretched to 100'.

@aestheticstorm

5 жыл бұрын

It seemed cords knew no bounds. As a kid, I figured I would just keep seeing longer ones throughout my lifetime and it would be perfectly normal.

@MetroPolo1

5 жыл бұрын

Your father manages his anger very well.

@wonniewarrior

5 жыл бұрын

It was quite a chore untangling the kinked cords, especially when it looped on itself somehow and needed the Leyland brothers to figure it out.

@raskalraidex

5 жыл бұрын

@@MetroPolo1 Did you really have a dad if he didn't rage out every so often?

@MetroPolo1

5 жыл бұрын

@@raskalraidex Fair point!

A car guy like me knows that a lot of cars in movies don’t actually sound like the soundtrack they use including the engine starter sound. Also a lot movies use the same generic car alarm sound when arming and disarming a car. Great video. Thanks for posting.

@hkr667

6 жыл бұрын

Not to mention they all sound like they're revving to 8000 rpm, with squealing tires, when only going 15 mph :/

@tiberiu_nicolae

6 жыл бұрын

H Kr Squealing tire on dirt roads :D

@TheSledgehammer205

6 жыл бұрын

Or the same car alarm chirp

@dunebasher1971

6 жыл бұрын

I've never actually heard any car in real life make that particular "chirp-chirp" noise when the alarm is set. They all either make no sound (and just flash the lights) or make some other noise, usually a beep.

@deadfreightwest5956

6 жыл бұрын

Or something on the History channel where they use a recording of a diesel-electric locomotive, with multi-chime air horn, to accompany silent footage of a steam locomotive. Ai-yi-yay!

I really love your channel I’ve been a subscriber for a long time. It would be great if you could break down LED technology, the history of it, and the newly emerging and changing technology. Including UVC technology which is brand new and advancement has been brought on mainly by coronavirus… And the neo pixel RGBLED technology. A 30 minute video regarding LED history and advancement from you would be like heaven

Back in '89, I had an old dial telephone on my desk at work. I also found a tone generating dial pad in my desk. It took me about five minutes with a slot screw-driver to swap the dial for the number-pad. The components were completely interchangeable. I used that phone until the office updated the phone system about a year later.

I was pulling the old phone system out of a building so I could put a VoIP system and bossman threw the 5 line version of this phone across the room. When I heard the bells clang I asked if I could keep one. I now have 3 of them and the 1A2 key system that ran them in the original installation.

@NoName-zn1sb

5 жыл бұрын

I had a five line system in my home until the mid-80s

"those with a very good ear for pitch... or the pedantic" That cracked me up

"The telephone belonged to the company." Sounds like what Apple assumes with their phones right now with Right-ToRepair.

@abpsd73

3 жыл бұрын

I remember my parents talking about "renting another phone" so my father could have one in his office back in the late 70's. The telephone industry was a captive market. Still is in some ways, most cable and telephone providers will supply cable boxes and internet modems to the customer that require to be returned at termination of service.

@alexsis1778

2 жыл бұрын

@@abpsd73 At the very least they are required to allow you to buy your own even if the standard for a lot of people is renting it.

@albertbatfinder5240

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda looked at that remark through the other end of the telescope. Today we laugh uproariously at the audacious concept of Apple or whoever owning “our” product, but we accepted it unthinkingly back then. I remember a telephone technician swapping out my old phone for a newer one, and I thought “thank god it’s not mine, or I’d have to pay for that. One less thing to worry about”. So maybe if Apple had vast warehouses of phones and freely swapped out broken ones for new ones, they could win over our sympathies.

@johanmetreus1268

2 жыл бұрын

Main difference is Apple doesn't own any mobile phone network. The rationale for the telephone companies owning the phones where that apparatuses not fully compliant to the phone companies specifications actually could take down the network (not so much burning it out physically as by causing interference). Apple say they want "a consistent user experience", but that does not work the same way, as one user doing funky stuff with their own phone will NOT cause *other* costumers to have *their* experience altered to any significant degree.

@SalisburySnake

2 жыл бұрын

I remember about 2003 some older friends of mine realized they had been paying a rental fee on their avocado green phone since the 70's. The cost seemed astronomical to me at the time. Something like $10/mo or maybe even more. That was when landlines were still common and you could buy a wired phone outright for probably $10. They probably payed thousands for that one, and had to give it back in the end.

The airplane references are out of hand my friend🤣 I've seen so many of your videos and it would seem there's at least one every video

The model 500: I remember it well, especially problematic for people with edema or who just happened to have large fingers. I knew people that had to use an unsharpened pencil to dial, and for them, the 1500 was a Godsend.

@Camwize

4 жыл бұрын

They need to order a dialing wand

@millomweb

4 жыл бұрын

Pens were commonly used - they don't transmit pain as much when slapped against the finger stop time & time again !

@encycl07pedia-

3 жыл бұрын

"Large" fingers. More like you actually have the fingers of an adult.

I still have our old black rotary phone. I keep it connected to our landline (yeah, we still have that too) because the real metal bell ringer is so much louder and easier to hear than the electronic "chirping" of my more modern phone.

@Become_A_Paid_Electronics_Tech

5 жыл бұрын

did you see the black old rotary phone on eBay, this guy turned it into a wireless Bluetooth telephone. In the description it tells about when a call comes in the ringer starts up. LOL no flutter or wow recording, it's the real thing! I found it while looking for western electric stuff, searching 'western electric bluetooth' will help find it faster

@bryanjk

5 жыл бұрын

I do the same. They make a Bluetooth module you can hook any landline phone into.

@Become_A_Paid_Electronics_Tech

5 жыл бұрын

@@bryanjk that module has wires going to the wall yes?

@marko11kram

5 жыл бұрын

our old rotary phone is on our landline too!

@Bandera92

5 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Because these phones only use the landline, you are covered in case of emergency or blackout. (So long as your provider isn't totally out too, i guess)

Funny story from working at radio shack back in the day when they sold phones. They had two that looked almost identical to a 500. One was $19.99 the other was either 29 or $39 I can't remember which. Everybody would walk in and pick up the handset on the $19 one and feel how cheesy and cheap it felt. Then they would pick up the expensive one and it felt good had a nice heft, it was just clearly a better handset so 9 out of 10 people would buy the expensive one as soon as they felt the difference. What they didn't know was that radio shack was using the same handset. There was a small iron bar glued inside the expensive one to make it feel heavier and better made. We also had a list of things that we were required to try and upsell. Everything from phone amplifiers to longer cords to detanglers. There were normally seven things that you could add to a phone with a single sale if you could talk them into it. The only thing I ever really offered was the longer cords if they needed it and the detangler because I hate Tangled handset cords.

Hey, I'm really glad to see your channel being a success… Like you, I really appreciate a lot of the engineering that goes into some of this older stuff, even though I obviously appreciate the flawless high fidelity output of modern-day technology. :-) This little throwback to the movies though does leave me with one question that I'm honestly kind of surprised you didn't address… like you (I think) I am a child of the 70s and 80s… Is it just me, or do I never remember seeing one of those old Western Electric telephones with a "buzz" instead of a "ring"? Those phones were ubiquitous throughout those two decades, but I never once remember seeing one with a buzz…Even the multiline office phone… You know, the version that had the red "hold" button on the left, and the five white multiline lights on the right? Interestingly enough though, so many television shows… And it was TV shows I recall, not so much the movies…Oftentimes had a buzz on the telephones instead of a ring. Care to do an update on that? I would just be fascinated to learn what you can find out about that!

Anchorage Telephone Utility allowed purchase of phones from the mid 70's; we had purchased phones, including a pay phone, in home from 1978. The lease charge was made up for after the first year. They also offered alternate bell sets; one replacement bell was a 3rd lower (forming a p5), the other a 3rd higher than the high bell. This was specifically for PBX uses. Also note that modular was available from abut 1974, but it was not the rj-11... it was a 4 pronged block plug. ATU predated (and postdated) the AT&T monopoly, as a city-owned utility... but for long distance, you had to have an AT&T/Alascom account. It was possible to have local-only phone service.

@Leroset

6 жыл бұрын

William Hostman Fascinating! But why did your family have a pay phone in your home? I'm assuming that by pay phone you mean a phone that takes quarters. Why wouldn't you just have a normal telephone instead?

@WilliamHostman

6 жыл бұрын

Leroset to keep friends from asking to use it. And it was 10 cents, not a quarter, for a local call. It wasn't actually on a payphone line, but my friends didn't know that...

@denshi-oji494

6 жыл бұрын

I knew a few people that bought payphones for the house after the bell breakup as a way to restrict the usage of the phone and long phone calls to friends.

I amazed how you take some of the most boring technology and make it not only interesting, but I just watched nearly 15 mintues of phones ringing. Unfortunately, I will now notice the flutter and wow in those movies. Thanks buddy, thanks a lot. Seriously though keep them coming, love your stuff.

11:15 But the wow is so nostalgic to me. I love the wow sound. It always makes something old nostalgic.

Wow. I remember goofing with the “thumbwheel” underneath the dial phone that was on the bedside table in the master bedroom in my childhood home. Also; Mom would occasionally gesture to me to bring her the stool after she answered a call from the wall phone located in the kitchen. Ahhh... the simple days.

Now that you've pointed it out I'm going to hear this every time. I must say - the sound of the wow actually adds something to the emotion. I wouldn't be surprised if the choice of using a slightly distorted sample is on purpose.

@ropewalkingelephant

6 жыл бұрын

Yes it really does

I always felt like they wanted us to notice those sounds. There's tons of recycled sounds and every movie kinda becomes a "can you spot the recording" It was definitely done out of budget cuts and simplicity at first but it then turned into tradition, and it's still done today just to maintain that connection to the movie medium heritage. That's how I see it at least.

@ATSaale

4 жыл бұрын

That is definitely the case with the willhelm scream, it's an homage to the first sound designers and foley artists

A great video. As someone who worked in the teleco industry for 54 years the best of the 500 sets were made in the 1950s and early 60s One place I worked at had a black one like you video showed in their lab and it had fabric handset and line cards with a manufacture date of 1946. Must have been an early sample. Today if I try to use a rotary phone my fingers slip out of the holes on the dial.

The allusion to the movie Airplane is succulent. ♥️

I think this is my third time watching this video. And for the first time today, I realized two things that I’ve never picked up in this episode before. First, the audiophile/audio file joke. Wow. Second, the recording of that record as being the origin of the white zone/red zone joke in Airplane. Great video, man.

Funny thing is, pre-divestiture, Bell charged not only extra for Touch-Tone service, but also a higher lease fee for the (largely-similar) phone. That service fee continued long after; when I got my own phone, 25-odd years ago, there was still an itemized 98-cent charge on my bill. And funny stories about people ringing up the telco to cancel it & save the roughly $12/year. However, I've heard that they usually wouldn't even bother to remove the service from the line (although, it has happened!)

@denshi-oji494

6 жыл бұрын

Madness832 - in our market it was also that way. They charged extra for touch tone service, even though it cist them less. If you cancelled the touch tone add-on depending on which exchange you were on, it would remove the ability or not. it all depended on the updates and available circuits on the exchange you were physically wired to, and what was easier for them.

@InsanePsychoRabbit

6 жыл бұрын

Phone companies still charge extra for touch-tone dialing in some places, including mine. Since my mom is a cheapskate, my household is one of like 3 that still has only pulse dialing. VWestlife is one of the others.

@pgramsey1

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, happened to me, too. My first apartment out of college was in Downey, CA, in 1985, with GTE as the local provider. They tried to charge me $1 a month for touch tone. I told them to get lost. I had a new phone that only had a keypad, but it had a switch that enabled it to send pulse instead of DTMF. They actually DID disable DTMF -- I tried it. So they had to support extra hardware to service cheapskates like me who refused to pay them extra to not use it. Monopolies (even second rate ones) do weird things.

Now I really need you to do a video on phone booths or payphones! whatever you can get your hands on! fascinating!