Trying something new. I made a quick unlisted video to address a few specific responses that I think are worth exploring further: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZ-NttNyfpmcqc4.html

@K-MRA

6 жыл бұрын

I have a leakbuster request kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3dlttuuf8a8eNI.html this is a leak of the title screen of smash for switch.

@biozelink6086

6 жыл бұрын

You would definitely know how to discover fake leaks from attention seeking people...

What I learned from the big Smash 4 leak was that if Nintendo isn't deleting it, it isn't real.

@chizarsu4769

6 жыл бұрын

HOLY FUCK I'VE BEEN NOTICED OH SHIT WTF I WANT TO THANK MY MOM AND DAD FOR LETTING ME BE HERE

@ProofSILVER135

6 жыл бұрын

Well, with the rayman leak people thought the same thing and Omni swiftly deleted the footage to throw people off so even that theory isn't safe

@kristopheraguero1500

6 жыл бұрын

I should comment about something related to it buuuuut... The fuck with your name, dude? XD

@ytgjay1308

6 жыл бұрын

Basura audiovisual y más fetiches cuestionables. However Pokemon SM starter leaks werent deleted.

@brettf3252

6 жыл бұрын

Basura audiovisual y más fetiches cuestionables. If Nintendo deletes it then they effectively confirm it. If they ignore it, they can always take action after the release without basically confirming it in advance. It would be an extremely stupid move on their part to get involved now. No third parties are involved (unlike Smash) so they have nothing to worry about letting the leak sit there as opposed to getting sued by some publisher for spilling the beans.

A man who created the most infamous Smash leak is now deconstructing other leaks. Nice!

@gengavari9460

6 жыл бұрын

Tommy Deonauth's Archives there were way better leaks if you belived that rayman leak youre pretty dumb

@Xigzagamer

6 жыл бұрын

the rayman "leak" is way better than 90% of the pokemon "leaks" that are everywhere even if it had flaws it's still a decent "leak" by comparison to most "leaks" these days which usually boil down to exactly what a lot of people want to see, but either makes no sense or are unlikely at best

@KaeraNeko

6 жыл бұрын

It's like in those shows where the police hire an ex-con to out-con present cons.

@inarjollyhound

6 жыл бұрын

Using his powers for good.

This was one of the most well done fakes I've seen in a while but the similarities to the Mario & Sonic version of Delfino was the big tip off. I still hope they add a Sunshine Kingdom to Odyssey as DLC in the future!

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

You and me both! It's such a no brainer, especially with Isle Delfino showing up on the promotional world map.

@rocc9

6 жыл бұрын

why wouldn’t you want a remake or a sequel to sunshine instead

@andresgarza8077

6 жыл бұрын

cuz odyssey is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than sunshine and odyssey mechanics completely make fludd kinda boring

@dusty5981

6 жыл бұрын

Rocco not happening The closest we can now get of some type of Sunshine playable area is Odyssey

@anonwalkerr

6 жыл бұрын

a sequel or remake with better movement and more options would be awesome

Can we talk about toadsworth’s little hat it’s the cutest thing

There was probably quite a bit that I didn't cover in this one, but I just wanted to stick to the main points. Didn't think it was worth posting a longer video about an 8 second clip. =P But feel free to point out other evidence in the comments! I'm going to sleep now.

@wilttilt

6 жыл бұрын

The camera angle looks like one of the ones when you first hop off the Odyssey and don't move the camera

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Devan if that were the case, Mario should be dead center in the frame. Maybe I’m mistaken and some levels start you out off center, but this looks like a really strange camera angle to start the level from. It’s off center, but just barely, so it doesn’t look purposeful.

@thehypist2587

6 жыл бұрын

Artsy Omni You were so focused on Mario yet you didn't compare Hint Toad. If you're such a stickler for animation consistency why didn't you compare him too?

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Because I didn't want to make the video unnecessarily long and gratuitous when the points that I covered are more than adequate to draw a conclusion.

@briansix2317

6 жыл бұрын

Artsy Omni I think we should take into consideration while looking at this that this could be a sort of alpha or beta so some things could be off. Unlikely but there is a chance that this is true

Wish it was real. We *NEED* a Isle Delfino map in Odyssey. They match so well! Great video by the way!

@phantomias7230

6 жыл бұрын

Jake. 06 I think they will announce something at E3.

@qwerp3

6 жыл бұрын

Phantomias I hope so.

@rocc9

6 жыл бұрын

Jake. 06 no we don’t we need a sequel to sunshine

@qwerp3

6 жыл бұрын

Rocco Why not both? Just because there is Sunshine DLC doesn't mean they can't make Sunshine 2.

@juliannajm3592

6 жыл бұрын

Jake. 06 hey!

Wow these new leaks recently have been HIGH quality. It's really impressive.

Even with this "leak" being fake, it would still be a huge missed opportunity for them not to release Isle Delfino as DLC. I mean the game itself already makes several call backs to Sunshine. The spin jump, the Delfino vacation outfit, the poisonous goop in places like the Wooded Kingdom, even the enemies you capture, Gushens, operate in a similar fashion to F.LU.U.D., as well as when you use a rocket flower, similar to the jet nozzle. And on top of all that, if you look at the overworld map, you can see Isle Delfino, and it's still in the shape of a dolphin. So yeah, the developers have no excuse at this point to not do something like this.

@trigger1377

6 жыл бұрын

NickWithTheHat "Wow look, the devs HAVE to do something I want because of my over the top, totally not ridiculous and far fetched speculation with totally legit, concrete evidence.

@nickwiththehat9727

6 жыл бұрын

Hentai Lover I never said there was any real evidence of this really happening. Just mere speculation of similarities to past games. If this DLC doesn't end up happening, it's not the end of the world. The game itself is still a joy. I suppose my comment was really an excuse to gush over the possibilities.

@Aether_Star

6 жыл бұрын

Hentai Lover "Wow look, a guy who doesn't realize another person's simple passion and doesn't realize OP really meant the possible missed opportunity of making this rather than making a demanding statement."

@diegomedina9637

6 жыл бұрын

So y'all like sunshine now?

@nickwiththehat9727

6 жыл бұрын

Diego Medina Well if we're being honest, Sunshine did have a lot of issues. The second half of the game brought about frustrating level design and mission structure, unhelpful side characters and loosely structured story, as a matter of fact the Shine Sprites themselves didn't feel as crucial to the plot as say Power Stars in Galaxy or 64. However, Delfino Plaza, at least in my opinion, is one of the more memorable aspects of the game; certainly a better hub than Peach's Castle. There were more secrets to find, people to talk to, and it made the levels feel more connected with each other.

Wanted to address something real quick, since I kinda glossed over this in the video: When you fly to a kingdom and the level starts, the camera does start in a unique position that cannot usually be replicated by the normal camera behavior. Once the player moves at all, the camera reverts back to the standard behavior and usually comes closer to Mario. This is done to frame the kingdom and Mario in an aesthetically pleasing way. In most of these starting camera angles, Mario is in the lateral center of the frame, but not always. In the cases where he's not, he's usually positioned quite deliberately off center to make the composition of the frame more interesting. In this particular example, if that's happening, it doesn't seem like as good of a composition as I would expect for one of the off-center starting angles. Mario is barely off center, and isn't facing where I'd expect for the starting angle. But I realize this is purely subjective, and not really evidence for or against its authenticity.

@Rawbherb

6 жыл бұрын

Your camera angle during the head-to-head comparison wasn't directly behind Mario as is it is in the leak; that might explain the differences you saw in the animation

@mr.whimsic6902

6 жыл бұрын

But Mario is not in the center of the frame. He's slightly off center to the right.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Marraphy: The differences were in the movement of the character rig, so the camera angle isn't really relevant for the comparison. The comparison was done to show the differences in animation timing.

@Lukeyboi-et8eb

6 жыл бұрын

its fake because in the real game you cant see mario's and wrist when he move's his hand

@jfickrow

6 жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t his shadow be pointed the same direction as the tree shadows?

3:45 I'm new here, so I don't know how you usually are with terminologies, so I just wanted to congratulate you for this part. Almost 100% of the time, channels who discuss game features just have no clue what they're talking about, so they always give misleading or simply inaccurate information about the subject they bring up. Like when people say "clipping" when it's usually just overlapping UV's, for example, which is a relatively easy thing to fix. It's a little thing, but it bothers me way more than it should due to me working on many many games for a long time. I was totally prepared to see you go on about some inaccurate and poorly described description about some weird animation description (3D Animation is one thing a lot of people get wrong very often), but not only did you mention Inverse Kinematics, but you described it quickly and precisely. You explained it just enough for somebody who /didn't/ know what IK's were about gets a good idea, and it was an accurate description of it. You're 100% absolutely right, that knee straightening out is definitely a side-effect of amateur/rushed IK animation and I would never have noticed it if you didn't point it out. I know this is a silly thing to praise you about, but I see too much KZreadrs who talk about game functions and having no clue what they're talking about, (cough Boundary Break), so, kudos. You either have prior knowledge of IK systems, or you actually did proper research about a system and gave a precise and concise description as a result. That deserves praise. Great job, man.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you taking the time to say that! =) As for how I know about IK systems, I'm a self-taught 3d modeler and I have some experience in rigging and posing characters using IK rigs. I haven't done a ton of animation, but it's something I'm learning more about, as I'm interested in developing a 3D game of my own in the future. I've worked on indie games in various capacities since 2009, but up to this point, it's all been 2D work using engines like Cocos2D, ImpactJS, and Unity. I have dabbled in some 3d game project work in both Unity3D and Unreal Engine 4, but nothing close to a finished product. I started learning 3D in 2016 for my work on the Smashified channel making 3D renders of various characters, so that's where most of my experience working with IK rigs comes from. I won't claim to be 100% correct with my terminology all the time, since I am self-taught in most of what I know about both game development and 3d asset production, but I try my best. =P

*Watching Nintendo E3* *Super Mario Odyssey DLC comes up* *Shows this same footage* Wait, what?

@FrostyMac

6 жыл бұрын

Squirrel I think OP meant an HD version of the footage, not something that looks like it was recorded on a fucking Zune

@wompWompWooooooomp

6 жыл бұрын

Frosty Mac You missed the joke

@FrostyMac

6 жыл бұрын

Road and you missed mine I guess, but whatever

@wompWompWooooooomp

6 жыл бұрын

Frosty Mac How was that a joke? You literally just stated what the original poster meant.

@FrostyMac

6 жыл бұрын

Road No, that’s not what I mea- y’know what, let’s not start an argument over something silly. Let’s just move on, k?

wouldnt be surprised if this was fake, but i gotta be honest. im getting "shulk is a photoshopped little mac" vibes from this

@S0LV0

6 жыл бұрын

I get that impulse, but the animation differences really do it in. Especially if you look over at Mario's left leg in the "leak" - it bends backward right before it loops, and the official animation clearly doesn't do that. It's subtle, sure, but those kinds of things really do make or break a leak's believability.

@2kano113

6 жыл бұрын

S0LV0 could be a glitch. the animation seems pretty one-to-one otherwise

@S0LV0

6 жыл бұрын

2kano113 That's not the only inconsistency though, and it's very plausible that someone attempting to mimic the animation would miss the smaller details. Sorry, but I think Occam's Razor applies here.

@2kano113

6 жыл бұрын

S0LV0 probably. again, i wouldnt be surprised if it was fake. that doesnt make any excuses for the inconsistencies and oddities in this footage any less possible

@pickedceasar1216

6 жыл бұрын

S0LV0 or it could be an early build of isle delfino which I've seen nobody say.

Leakbusters is possibly Omni's best series so far. Keep it up man!

It's more convenient to record the screen with the camera when the room is completely dark, you avoid screen reflections.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

You also avoid showing people that you're in your living room or your home office. =P

@Mixa_Lv

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, yeah, that's something you would do when you're home alone, but it doesn't really make sense in an office environment.

@shrilleth

6 жыл бұрын

Artsy Omni or just avoiding glare in general. If you were gonna leak something real you wouldn’t want it to look all glary

I think the camera angle is supposed to be from when you first enter a stage it has a fancy angle to show off some of the greatest features of the world from where you're standing and when you make a step forward or move the camera it gets normal again

Just a quick thing I want to mention here, the mario in the footage seams to have lower resolution textures. Just look at his pants, almost all of the pants textures are simplified. It could be that this is beta footage of the game from when it was in development. It could be that they had planned to put delfino plaza in the game, and this is footage from an older build of the game, and that the map files have been deleted from the current build, hence why we haven't seen them in the game files

One minor thing in my opinion is the location of Hint Toad and Uncle Amiibo. They're juststanding right in the middle of the road, seems like a odd spot to put them. :/

@TractorProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Leon Steamhawk not really…

@DaNintendude

6 жыл бұрын

I mean, they are right next to the central statue, so I don't think it's that weird.

You’re probably right that it’s fake, but I really hope the “idea” is real. I would love exploring an Isle Delfino in Odyssey.

That's a really damn impressive fake leak, if it wasn't for the weird ass broken leg I'd honestly think it was legit. I hope Nintendo still add a Delfino Kingdom DLC though

Can you review the leak on why my dad left and never came back

This would be 99% more convincing if it was a 8 seconds video of the Odyssey landing on Isle Delfino.

This leak was really well done if it truly is fake (which is likely)

Why do all these leak busters take place at 3 am

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Well this one did because I learned about it last night and wanted to get the video out of the way so I wouldn't have to worry about it in the morning. =P

knew it was fake the moment i saw toadsworth pretty sure he's canonically dead in the mario universe

@nintendoninjas6321

6 жыл бұрын

Skirdus What do you mean?!?

@gengavari9460

6 жыл бұрын

Skirdus so bowsers dead too?

@zoim4131

6 жыл бұрын

When do you think he died if he did i dont remember

@HypeVoiceActing

6 жыл бұрын

I guess the RPGs don't exist to you

@madmoblin

6 жыл бұрын

He hasn't showed up since Dream Team.

Looks like Josh Thomas is at it again

@zirkq

6 жыл бұрын

God please no.

@TommyDeonauthsArchives

6 жыл бұрын

Gianluca Sabatini He is desperate...

@gianlucasabatini1630

6 жыл бұрын

(FTR, I actually watch JT’s content, and based on what he’s planning, it makes sense why he’d do this)

@RobinE_Art

6 жыл бұрын

He did discuss about animating palm trees for something. Its defiantly Josh.

@gamer39985

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't he create an Isle Defino Mario Kart battle mode course once? If this was him, wouldn't he have just used the buildings in that course in this leak rather than using some form Mario and Sonic?

If this is real, why not just use the video capture feature to get a decent 30-second direct-feed video? Surely, such a feature wouldn't be disabled by DLC of all things.

@ZSXDFV

6 жыл бұрын

I doubt it is real, but if they were doing beta tests for something, I doubt they would enable video capture to prevent leaks.

@Gestersmek

6 жыл бұрын

That's a valid point, but wouldn't they also need to make sure that the video capture feature doesn't do something to break the game, as it's enabled by the software?

@CluelessAnon

6 жыл бұрын

Jamal Mian That would probably be one of the last things they do to prevent leaks.

How did you notice all these minor animation details but not how stiff his fingers are during the wave compared to the real game That was like an instant tip-off

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Just because I don't mention it in the video doesn't mean I didn't see it. =P I just didn't want to get too far into the weeds when what I already covered in the video already felt like enough to form a conclusion.

I also noticed when you put the Mario animations side by side that Cappy's eyes squash a bit in the game while in the "leak" they don't change at all.

Fake 100%. If it was real he'd show Mario run around and stuff.

In the game, the Tosteranians will shake their maracas to the beat of the current song. In the video, however, they do not.

GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT, I believe it's real because if u slow the video right before the camera focuses on the TV you can see a joy con but the joy con is dark blue similar to what CND found in a Nintendo minute video, exclusive to employees only

@fornie2675

6 жыл бұрын

ZEERIALO Cancer

@lolcat

6 жыл бұрын

Dbrand

@Zeerialo

6 жыл бұрын

Cancer isnt a joke

@dawi

6 жыл бұрын

Hahah no the Box is just dark cuz Nintendos packaging is bad

@Zeerialo

6 жыл бұрын

There was more than one son

His overalls are way too blue in the leak.

@TractorProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Waluigifan32 that’s what happens when you record a video from a tv screen

@WallyGamer32

6 жыл бұрын

TractorProductions Then again, it's still too blue. It might be the recording software but then again.

@TractorProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Waluigifan32 it’s not a recording software it’s screen on screen and screens are blue so it enhances the blue

@WallyGamer32

6 жыл бұрын

TractorProductions Yeah I guess that makes sense. Is this confirmed fake by now?

two kind of weird things I've noticed about this are: [A] in the leaked footage Mario's fingers seem to stay pretty close together while he's fanning himself, while in actual Mario Odyssey his fingers are separated more. [B] The animation on the purple coins in the background is a little weird. they stop for a second after every rotation unlike all the other Purple coins in Mario Odyssey which continuously rotate.

i thought the fact that the music started as soon as he started recording was way too convenient. i knew it had to be fake from that point

There is also the problem of the characters animation in the distance not dropping the frame rate. Usually odyssey does this.

Another thing very common with "leaks" is the lack of interactions. This, of course goes with the shortness, but leaks like these tend to have characters idling or just UI elements moving, since those tend to be less work intensive.

Woah perfect timing! Didnt realise this would be uploaded

never saw that fake leak but im not gonna complain, cause new artsy video baybeee

While the animation may indeed be fake, do take note that Mario has slightly different stances in certain situations. In a regular kingdom such as Sand, Metro, etc. he has his knees slightly bent and he's ready for action. However, in a more relaxed scenario, such as in the Mushroom Kingdom or inside the Odyssey, he is a little more relaxed. But as there (to my knowledge) aren't any circumstances like this, in which the environment is peaceful but warm enough for him to fan himself, in the regular game, there might not be anything to go off of.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

The animation where Mario fans himself is used in both the Luncheon and Sand kingdoms, which provides us with a benchmark for how the inverse kinematics should behave in various floor collision conditions.There's a fairly robust system at play that allows Mario to adjust his leg bend to accommodate even very steep slopes without his leg ever straightening out. There's a video linked in the end slate that demonstrates this. There's absolutely no reason that Mario's leg should straighten out like this on perfectly flat ground, and there's also no reason to alter this inverse kinematics system if it's already working perfectly well.

Even though it is not the focus, I would like to address some of the other animations on screen (Toadsworth, the Piantas in the background, etc.) as those are just as important in helping to debunk/prove a leak.

Notice the shine on Mario's shoe and the realisticness of his clothes. It seems to be a new outfit or, like the rooftops, DULLED DOWN.

I always like watching these videos because Omni always goes in depth about why it's most likely fake. "The shadow's not quite the same, Mario's leg and forearm look weird here..." Meanwhile, I'm just here like, "Toadsworth looks weird...the Piantas too. They aren't in Mario Odyssey. ....so uhhhhhhhhh FAKE IT'S NOT REAL"

@youhei1849

6 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Piantas are a part of sunshine so if DLC like this ever comes out I'm sure they'd be added to Isle Delfino

@Drewlightful

6 жыл бұрын

I mean, yeah. I suppose that's true. But something about the piantas seems off, y'know? Like, instead of being ripped from Super Mario Galaxy or the Olympic Games, they were ripped from Super Mario Sunshine. I dunno.

@imlegos2153

6 жыл бұрын

One of the Piantas is just in a loop of being hit by F.L.U.D.D.

I was skeptical immediately. Anyone who has the chance to show off a game, but doesn't move the character or interact with the environment, is someone I'll call out as fake immediately. The limited movement of the Springman + Decidueye leak also made it clear that one was immediately fake. If someone has a game early, they're going to play it. I don't believe any leaks on principle, and I'm very glad that we're getting better and better quality fakes. It just makes it easier to dismiss the next one.

I'd expect more kingdoms in mario odyssey since if you collect all of the moons you only get 880 so more kingdoms could get you up to 999 instead of having to buy them

The tree trunk textures also seem a little too fuzzy compared to things like the floor tiles and the odyssey ramp, they probably extracted the texture from sunshine itself and resized it or something. Plus, none of the level warps into other places (like the pianta statue, and the pipe on the house or on top of the shine statue) are in this in any way, even though those would most likely be where nintendo would put access to the additional puzzle areas to grab moons/shines. If this were real, we'd see a lot more object assets already in odyssey thrown around than just the characters and the ship.

I'd like to point out that the lighting on Mario looks a bit off to me. Compared to your footage of Tostarena, and what I remember of Mount Volobono (I've spent a lot of time there, collecting moons), it feels a tad too bright? And maybe it's just that this is filmed by a camera, not a capture device, but the texture on his overalls especially seems quite plain.

Daisy and Waluigi amiibo in the bottom left and right corners...hmmmm

"I found this on 4chan today" That should be a dead enough giveaway right there lol.

I noticed that the windows of the buildings in Mario & Sonic are slightly different than the one seen in the leak but the leaker could've just modified it or something.

There’s an audio leak for Smash Bros. that has Rick Bruiser from Punch-Out. I found it from Khonjin on KZread and I was wondering if it’s worth checking out.

I heard something about how some devs who worked on Mario + Sonic went on to work on Mario Odyssey, so that might explain why they have those assets.

The character model of Mario looks like it's from Galaxy, and Mario's shadow angle doesn't follow the angle of the trees shadow

Eh?! Where have you been?! The Pokemon community needs you! (And I just realized you are the person who posted the smash video, I really enjoyed watching it.)

To me it seems fake simply because I'd like to think an official modern render of Delfino Plaza would look far better than this. Not to say this doesn't already look impressive but if Nintendo really wanted to do this stage justice, the trees and buildings would look just a bit better, imo

That looks fake to me. Idk how to explain it, but the kingdom seems...small, I guess?? I mean that Pianta statue in the center, it’s much bigger in sunshine and it looks really small here.

If its a fake it's one of the best I've ever seen. No detail is missing. Maybe it's not a fake after all, but something cut from the actual game and now it's leaked.

Yeah, this is probably fake. But, if were going to get anything out of this, at least we have a basis for what an Isle Delfino DLC should look like when/if (please make it a when nintendo) it comes out

@ugwueogahugwiahghuuu9117

6 жыл бұрын

After thinking about it, this could possibly be from before the game's launch. I mean, think about it. Placeholder buildings, screwed up camera angle, unpolished animations. Sure, it would go towards the leak side of things too, but Isle Delfino was on the map before nintendo removed it. This could be footage of an old prototype of the game. Or, I could be entirely wrong.

The yellow Pianta behind Toadsworth clips through the tent top thing. 100% fake. Also, no sound.

What if it is not a DLC but removed content? In early version of the odyssey map shown by nintendo there was island delfino i.ytimg.com/vi/kJ2h-Xq-NNk/maxresdefault.jpg but it got removed in the released version. The normal map on the globe at the odyssey even has island delfino still visible from the right angle right next to mushroom kingdom. So maybe what we see in the leek is a very early version. This also explains why maybe the animation looks worse than in the final version. The camera arm could also have had a different length in a very early version. What do you guys think? sounds pretty possible doesn't it?

i noticed something else with Mario's animation and that would be the hand, if you look closely at his fingers in his animation they're very stiff when he's waving his hand, Mario's hand in SMO with that animation the tips of his fingers are slightly cupped

I noticed that the shadows look a bit off too - according to the shadows of the trees, the light should be coming diagonally down from the back onto the right side of Mario. However, the shadow of Mario suggests that the sun is right on top of him.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

Mario's shadow is always straight down regardless of the level lighting. This is so that the player can use it to gauge whether or not he's above platforms.

Just so you know... I’m now hoping for a bunch more fake leaks just so we can have more LeakBuster debunking episodes.

What do you think about the ken, black shadow and Isaac leak? (The leaker is a french leaker by the name of LaPailleDor)

Well, it seems that the leaked music has a more samba feel than the original, yet I still could not find any remixes/remasters of Delfino Plaza in that genre. I also tried to check out OverClocked Remix (who remixed a lot of Mario songs to different genres, such as remix #3100 and #888), but there are only one Super Mario Sunshine remix found in their KZread channel which is not relevant to samba.

Maybe the bending backwards is referencing Marios animation in sunshine

Real fast, putting this out here. Assuming the leak is real (which is, unfortunately, unlikely), the fact that it’s recorded off-screen makes a bit of sense. If it was some random Nintendo employee, it’s unlikely that they would have access to a way to actually record the game, and even if they did, if there was some risk of getting caught, it would be quicker and safer to record it using a camera anyways, which would also explain the length of the clip. The lights being off simply reduces reflections because of the fact that it’s recorded using a camera. Granted, it’s still most likely fake, but it wouldn’t surprise me TOO much if it were real.

i haven't tested it yet but i know for a fact the camera seems farther away from mario when you first get off the odyssey and dont move, which looks like what happened in the "leak" Edit: read the pinned comment or the reply, im wrong.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well, but didn't think to mention it. However, the framing in those cases almost always places Mario dead center along the x-axis of the frame. Not always, though. Doesn't debunk the leak, but I feel like if they were to go for an off-center starting frame, they'd at least make it more compositionally pleasing. Once you move the camera or Mario at all, it shifts from this starting view to the default camera behavior.

@f.4w

6 жыл бұрын

it seems like after getting off of the odyssey in seaside mario's animation isn't similar, i doubt this is real but still, theres definitely a chance this is real

@sunitibose9720

6 жыл бұрын

Tem aw thanks my uncle also work at nintendo but wasnt telling me anything about the pokemon switch. Thanks cousin!

Two things: I feel like marios color is off, like it is more neon bright than usual. Also, I think he stuck luncheon and lake kingdom dudes in there to make it seem more real

With the lighting being different the animation having errors and the fact that the island used to be on the map before the game released who’s to say that this is recent? Could this be old footage from beta?

I almost certainly believe this is actually a Super Mario Odyssey hack that a fan is passing off as a leak. The UI and background character animations look too convincing to be anything outside of the game's native engine.

The animation error was probably the biggest give-away. Followed by the asset reuse. Kudos to the creator, cause you can really tell they put a lot of work into this fake leak.

I still think this has potential for being real. The toadsworth and pianta models look great. Some toastarens are dancing with a pianta, a fork is in one of the stands, and the shadows seem like they are going the right way. Could be fake, but it has a chance. The 5 seconds as well is a little weird, but maybe he doesnt wanna get sued or something, i dont know.

Alright I *MAY* have a proper reason for the leg animation mario did in the leak. So when you play mario odyssey and go on an uneven surface marios legs will go into a odd position. Usually if you you can stand on a tilted platform, you can see what his legs do. So I guess that the leg probably bent back for a split second due to the ground probably not being an even solid model? (Maybe, correct me if I'm wrong.)

I agree that the differences in Mario’s animation is a dead giveaway that it’s fake. Expertly done fake though! I’d love a new story campaign on a recreation of Isle Delphino in a huge expansion pack for Odyssey.

Maybe theres a possibility that for some strange reason, they would use an earlier beta version of Mario during development?

The telltale sign that this is fake is that he doesn't walk around, if he would've walked around, then it would be believable.

You missed how the shadows of the trees are left and forward, and then all the characters that are normally in mario odyessey such as the blue toad and mario have shadows that go straight down. Also, if you look closely the tree trunks and the leaves are 2D sprites.

I mean currently people are able to pull of save editing on mario Odyssey so they can probably get unused maps and say its a dlc

This leaker played with my heart strings. You don’t joke about Sunshine like that with me. Nintendo get on that Sunshine DLC

Usually, in DLC's they update the game. SMO Dev's did mention changing up how Mario Looked and does other things. (Mostly his belly button) Besides the point, they might have come up with different ways to make Mario animations and art better. So along with this (DLC), it could be that there are in Alpha testing his new concept art. All of this was Art stuff which this could be an Alpha test. Since it will be Update it most likely will not be released as a Beta early test. We will just have to wait and see.

Anybody else notice the Sand Kingdom birds? It makes it seems like this entire leak was made in Sand Kingdom.

You also didn't mention that Mario's character model is taller, his clothing colors are more vibrant, and it's altogether a different character model in general.

Why is there a daisy and waluigi on the bottom

The hand pose differ from the original one, it seems like the hand is in default state when waving in the delfino one.

the birds are exactly the same as those of the desert kingdom, while in all others the birds are different

What you’re talking about isn’t the same as inverse kinematics, that’s simply what happens when a model’s rig isn’t properly set up for the mesh. Mario Odyssey uses traditional keyframe animation except for foot placement on uneven surfaces, which this surface is not. An idle animation would certainly be a keyframe animation and since he’s on a flat surface, the straight leg has nothing to do with inverse kinematics but a poorly made rig or mistake in recreating the animation. Inverse kinematics is more about computationally generating animation frames and objects in the game world or based on other game factors, animations like this are usually just keyframe animations.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

E: I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that the footage is using an IK system in real time (although in the actual game, I would assume that would need to be the case given that Mario's idle animations adapt to different slopes that force Mario's feet to different elevations relative to the hips), I'm saying that whoever recreated the idle animation used an IK system for the legs (as is common in a lot of animation rigs) and then exported the animation as key frames into the engine, be it unreal or otherwise, without noticing the IK pop on the leg.

This is the type of leak that unfortunately will probably be better than the one we do get... :(

Those tree trunks looks 2D...

It is dark beacause nintendo don’t recognize the room and don’t know who has leaked it

Marios hand a bit off

Why would you record off-screen footage when Odyssey has the media share option.

This might be real after all! A new super smash Bros video was released by Nintendo, and they showed the new updated Delfino Plaza map! It was just a quick image, but it looks just like the one from this leak! Same looking buildings, textures, ect.. They remodeled and updated all of Isle delfino for smash bros, so hopefully they use that model for Super Mario Odyssey DLC!

@Joshman601

6 жыл бұрын

Link to new Nintendo direct smash Bros video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmGfs7mDos24hpc.html

@Joshman601

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense! Why else would they completely remodel delfino plaza? They did it to reference the future release of Mario Odyssey Sunshine DLC! Oh man, I hope I'm right. We'll see!

@Joshman601

6 жыл бұрын

Update: I looked at the 2 pictures. The one from the leak, and the one from smash Bros ultimate. And they actually do look pretty different. Different roofs, textures, ect.. Maybe the map from this video was an early beta, or maybe they remodeled it differently for smash.

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

I can't say much, but I have it on good authority that the leak is 100% confirmed fake.

But you have a "impossible" camera angle everytime you enter a kingdom

One thing you didn't mention is that Mario is tiny compared to the ramp on the Odyssey

For the camera angle, doesn’t some places where you land give you a higher camera to take in the view or whatever?

@artsyomni

6 жыл бұрын

They do, yes. Typically, it's a view that puts Mario in the lateral center of the frame, but not always. When it doesn't, it's usually for the sake of a more interesting frame composition. I'm guessing that's what the person was trying to do here, but for reasons that are maybe more subjective, it doesn't feel quite right.

@lukeoreilly464

6 жыл бұрын

Artsy Omni Yeah that’s true, still believe it’s almost guaranteed fake.

Could you watch how you use Photoshop for your videos in your near future

a tiny detail that doesn't really matter is that when mario is fanning himself, you can see some of his hand in his glove.

I really desperately want it to be true, but what you mentioned does seem to debunk it pretty thoroughly... I'm still holding out hope that Isle Delfino will be coming, but I imagine this leak has nothing to do with it.

What if this is something nintendo is actually working on, it would explain the bad animation. And the camera angle you couldn't replicate? If this is real then it will obviously be a new update right? Meaning that the "update" could introduce more camera angles.

@revolvingworld2676

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Tarantino The bad animation still doesn't make any sense. Mario Oddesey is already conpletely finished, why would they change or update Marios animation any more? And even if they did change it, why try to make it look like the original when they could just use the original that they already have. It seems more like someone trying to imitate the original.

@mysngngsky3109

6 жыл бұрын

RevolvingWorld I meant what if this is in it's first stage and things are buggy

@TheWalshinator

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Tarantino I don't think that the map would break his animations, he'd be a separate object made to function the same way regardless of what map he's on.