Just got this exact fake off ebay from a seller that had over 60k feedback - this was for a 1 oz bar. I knew it was a fake immediately due to the thickness, kangaroo pattern on the back, and the serial number font. I did not have a problem getting a refund but I can only imagine how many uniformed people have been ripped off.

@DLlama

11 ай бұрын

This is the dangers of buying online. For some items, it really helps to look and hold it first

@YANUS_T

11 ай бұрын

If you knew it was fake then why did you buy it👀

@eliterry3785

7 ай бұрын

Should’ve posted the sellers name. Instead you took care of yourself and simply wondered about others….. Righteous.

@hodge2766

7 ай бұрын

@@eliterry3785 No, I reported him to ebay as well.

@OnlyInaWorldsoCold

Ай бұрын

​@@eliterry3785I just did a quick search. All were fake unless they had a check mark next to their name. So direct from xxx. 1 oz Perth mint. I only went like 10-15 down. Even one with a check mark Aydin something were fake. If the kangaroos bleed into the rim it's fake. Also the bottom left kangaroo is missing it's back. So it just has a little tail poking up it's fake. At least on 1 oz.

Good quality videos for such a tiny channel. Keep up the good work! I remember when I was at 5 subs and I could only dream of more than 100 but promise me. You will get there.

Also, the packaging should be tamper evident. You would see “VOID” appear in the plastic that surrounds the bar as you open it.

how much weight have a certipack?

I have an original Sigma PMV and from the looks of your readings on your pro, this bar would have tricked my PMV. The weight would have been a dead giveaway though. Did you do a magnet test on it?

Could it be a nordic gold ingot with a gold mirror finish?

Wish you cut it in half with a hacksaw. I was curious to see if it was lead that had been electroplated with a thin layer of gold...

I'm fairly new to gold. Is this something a person has to be careful of even buying through a bullion dealer such as SD Bullion, JM Bullion, US Gold Bureau, etc? Or is this more of a problem when dealing directly through individuals?

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

You won't have to worry when buying from an established mint. It's the private deals and eBay sales that you have to watch out for. My favorite place to buy is in well established private groups that have approved sellers. Such as GoldBugs on fb. But they aren't always easy to get into.

@rhanson1124

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals Probably best to for me to continue purchasing through an established mint then. I only have one 1G bar loose with the rest remaining sealed in their assay card packaging. There is deffinately something about gold that just hooks a person. My compliments to your gold bar casting as I watch you casting a 10 oz bar in another video. 👍

The thickness is a dead giveaway!

i thought it was an ounce bar due to the size being so big, easy to spot, 10 gms are small, very small

Thanks for sharing! That's great information!

@LithicMetals

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Loren!

Could you take some dimensions of the bar and/or packaging. Need more info!

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, that thing was shipped back to the owner... who then got a refund.

Where was this bar purchased from?

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

It was purchased from a dealer, the customer received a full refund.

what brand of scales are they ?

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

The scale I use most, is the GemOro Platinum PRO501VXP. I can't remember the model of the one in this vid.

What would ten g weigh in the packet if you didn’t open it up 16.1?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

No clue... every packet is different

Thanks for the vidoe, i came across a fake Pamp 2.5 gram bar myself from an eBay seller... I just made a KZread video about it..

can you show me fake gold bar with kinebar?

Do spectometr is 100% good to test gold?

@LithicMetals

7 ай бұрын

It's great for testing the outside of a piece.

where did you buy it from

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't actually buy it myself. A customer sent it in to me. He bought it from a private sale, and was fully refunded.

I am going to start collecting gold bars from a legit site , can I ask if I should remove the bar from the packaging or leave it in the packaging does it affect value

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of folks like the packaging intact. However, I always open them unless it's really something special.

@t3mpomusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals Ok thanks for your reply

First Perth mint fake I have seen normally PAMP

no so sorry Womble stacker Subbed Thanks for video

best one. thanks,

I wish some people would at least link them so we can use it for a movie prop os

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

I think if you Google fake gold bar... they will pop up. The only problem is, by buying them... you're kind of supporting crooks. And, we have that many more fakes out there 😞

@mega_logiicc2826

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals true

Veriscan pay higher premiums for pamp! You can test it with your phone.

Would you open and test even if purchased from a well established company like APMEX?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

No I wouldn't, not unless there was some sort of indication that something was off. And if I missed a fake, I would know it as soon as I melted it... the impurities are tough to miss 🙂

The fake ones tend to have the dotted serial number.

Wow !

I have a one ounce bar of that in my hands. It feels dense, is pretty thin and in a plastic capsule inside the card

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

As long as you procured the piece from a reputable dealer, you can be confident it's legitimate.

@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513

Жыл бұрын

Yup..

Scary stuff,better off buying gold maples,with the security on those its impossible to counterfeit

Is there a danger in buying fake bars from APMEX?

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

No not from APMEX 😁

Damn. Fake gold??? 😵‍💫

Any updates, buddy?

@LithicMetals

4 жыл бұрын

Updates? The piece was returned for a full refund :)

@randyrobertson7775

4 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals that was fortunate. I'm sure people have been bilked out of money.

What about the hologram Klein bars - no counterfeit for the hologram yet huh?

@LithicMetals

3 ай бұрын

I haven't seen any

has there been any fakes from JM bullion?

@HDDynalowrider

2 жыл бұрын

Jm bullion is very reputable. Trust but verify

at least its not a hemi imagine its ozmium ^^

Yep fake There’s some good info on the net for what to look out for. Obviously the thickness but also the package differences between genuine and fake

Man where did this guy disappear to. You still alive Lithic?

@LithicMetals

6 ай бұрын

You bet! Just been too busy to edit these vids. But I have some great ones coming soon!

@chrrmin1979

6 ай бұрын

@@LithicMetals Good to hear, keep on keeping on

Right off the bat you can see that the lettering is not correct, also when you split a perth card the words void appear between the plastic sheets. And as you pointed out it's way too thick, you can see the width from inside the assay.

It's too thick to be 10gram.

I would never buy a Perth Mint product.

@dkpqzm

3 жыл бұрын

That doesn't even make sense, I've seen fake Credit Suisse bars, fake Pandas even fake AGE's. If you know where it comes from and you know the signs any good LCS can verify it's authenticity.

@rodneyholland1867

2 жыл бұрын

I mostly buy Perth mint… but from the Perth mint itself. The Chinese fake bars target all major gold bar suppliers not just the Perth mint! The Perth mint has tamper evident seals on all their small bars too.

How do you know real from fake?

@LithicMetals

Жыл бұрын

I can tell easily just by holding it now. But there are a variety of tests one can perform.

This is not a perth mint bar. Its a fake perth mint bar from China

Cosa significa fake

You feel the "localized density". That sure "sounds" scientific.

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Lol you make'n fun of the way I talk?!

@isaacclark9825

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals Maybe a little. I did enjoy your video.

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaacclark9825 lol all I meant was the ensemble average of local densities of states defined by g 2 ( ε 1 , ε 2 )=≪ρ( ε 1 , r )ρ( ε 2 , r )≫ is theoretically investigated, where ρ( ε , r ) is the local density of states of disordered systems. It is shown by using the self-consistent theory due to Vollhardt and Wölfle and a physical picture of localization due to Mott, which includes the effect of “level repulsion”, that g 2 ( ε 1 → ε 2 ) is non zero even if the states around ε 2 are localized. Personally I fail to see the humor in it. 😜

@cv507

3 жыл бұрын

dense in germ is drunk. local is pub. ?

@DGimpeccablejaguar

Жыл бұрын

Gold feels heavy

Rule number 1 do NOT buy gold or silver off EBay.

@LithicMetals

11 ай бұрын

No. Do not buy gold or silver from anyone you don't trust. This buyer was refunded immediately by his seller.

This is sickening. Where did you buy this? Did you get a refund?

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

That piece was sent in by a customer, who bought it through a private sale. They did indeed get a full refund. But, not everyone is so lucky!

@speckledjim_

3 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals lesson learned

If its from Perth is a real fake 😆, they have been caught up in media alot recently for being dodge as it comes

Thank you for vid you awesome youtuber

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, for your very kind comment! Love your profile image, I traveled to Chichen Itza last year. Absolutely magnificent!

What the...

@LithicMetals

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@user-yb9ux1jq4w

4 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals I was worried because it was a fake gold bar.

Rasan theepan kanna.jena sutharsan the sothimalar

It doesnt look great

SOOOOO OBVIOUSLY FAKE, U SEE IT RIGHT AWAY . 24K IS VERY PALE YELLOWISH

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly enough, it was 24k gold. But only at the surface.

@danyrizk1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithicMetals il take ur word for it but as soon as I saw this thing it was the typical color of zinc/copper alloy, but hey!

@LithicMetals

2 жыл бұрын

@@danyrizk1203 I haven't watch this video in a while. I dont exactly recall what it looks like on camera. But it was tested on a sigma, and the surface tested in the green. I think that's why it slipped by the original seller. But I'll say this, it was essentially plated... someone with a keen eye such as yourself, may just automatically pick that up. Nice catch!

Fun fact: Most of youtubers out there buy these bars on wish for less than 10 bucks only to post em here on youtube pretending they bough fake gold bars XD

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Why would someone want to pretend they're suckers? Unless that's their shtick lol

Ciao questo lingotto e originale ho falso

@LithicMetals

3 жыл бұрын

The translation isn't clear... but I hope you didn't say that you have a fake... that would be a bummer!

pamp and perth ugh, i buy Umicore only

U can get those off dhgate or allied for a couple bucks along with 5 bands worth of fake ass money. That fake money is absolutely driving business in my area up the freakin wall. They obviously catch em but just the fact u gotta deal with folk trying to pass em off is annoying the hell outta em.

Just another reason why i don't buy bars at all, and buy only coins... Britannia's coins have five or more good security features thats is not worth while to fake it, think before u buy!