FAILED CONCEPTS | Wrestling's Short Lived Ideas
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FAILED CONCEPTS | Wrestling's Short Lived Ideas
WWE has thrown a lot of ideas at the wall over the years and, while some of these have succeeded in a big way, such as was the case with the first WrestleMania in 1985, the move towards an edgier product in the late 90’s, or going public at the turn of the millennium, not everything they’ve touched has turned to gold. No, on some occasions, these ideas haven’t managed to catch on, leading to some very notable, and sometimes costly, failures. But which of these ideas were the worst of all? Well, join us today as we take a deep dive into Failed Concepts: WWE’s Short-Lived Ideas.
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@thesmokefireandtheelectriq4159
Жыл бұрын
On martynjannetty
@stevegokus
Жыл бұрын
Wwe 2002 or 2003
@thesmokefireandtheelectriq4159
Жыл бұрын
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@fingersTitan
Жыл бұрын
I love that you always try and do things that no other channel does or has done.. With how many channels there are, it's not an easy thing to do and you pull it off well with these uploads. Superb job.
@MJKISHORE
Жыл бұрын
Please make a video On unknown Facts about WWE dark side
The only good thing about the Brawl For All were Jim Cornette's Rants and it's theme song.
@garyhen2028
Жыл бұрын
Yup
@benespinosa6725
Жыл бұрын
@@garyhen2028 I Agree 100%
@DavidLee-iu7nd
Жыл бұрын
Seeing Bradshaw getting KO'd is a great highlight, as I heard it was the reason Vince Russo started the Brawl for All
@clockworkorangecassidy1114
Жыл бұрын
What about a fight in a bakery??!!
@benespinosa6725
Жыл бұрын
@@clockworkorangecassidy1114 And that
Nxt kids is something that Disney would do if they owned the wwe. 🤦🏿♂️😆😁😂😂
@NazriB
Жыл бұрын
Lies again? Shortest waiting time
I actually do remember a promo with Hulk Hogan and the war bonnet. He was talking about blasting through opponents, I believe is what he said. And the fuel tank? That was the source of his Hulkamania juice. He was going to drink from that in the middle of the match to refuel his Hulkamania, if you can believe that. So yeah, the war bonnet, the Hulkamania tank, the license plate...quite a long way to hide the bald spot.
The Juniors Division failed as soon as it was called "juniors" and given the graphics of an early 90s off-brand amusement park
@Sanguivore
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I honestly think that played a *huge* role in its downfall.
Can we also mention McMahons Million Dollar giveaway? Showing how bad Vince was with technology.
I think the Raw Underground idea wasn't bad, but the thing needs to be put on a 3 times a month-once for Raw, once for Smackdown, and one match for pay per view-basis.
@cliffordjackson3
Жыл бұрын
FACTS.
Hogan's War Bonnet style looks like a level 1 Fallout character that is wearing random loot.
@Sanguivore
Жыл бұрын
LOL. xD Hit the nail on the head perfectly!
Brawl For All did give us the sight of JBL getting his clock cleaned by Bart Gunn.
The WCW relaunch was doomed from the get go. The match between Booker T and Buff Bagwell was in Seattle, WA, and WWF was scheduled to be in Atlanta, GA the following week. Atlanta was WCW's home base, so that match would have been much better received in Atlanta. The lack of WCW's top names (Sting, Goldberg, DDP, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Flair, etc. all sitting at home collecting their guaranteed contracts instead of working for WWF) joining WWE right after the purchase didn't help.
@benironside1264
Жыл бұрын
DDP wasn’t sat at home, he was the only one in the list working for WWF during the invasion. But for some reason they didn’t treat him like the main evener he was
@stevegallo8483
Жыл бұрын
@@benironside1264 He did sit out at first.
@benironside1264
Жыл бұрын
@@stevegallo8483 eh? He was absolutely there for all of it and didn’t sit out anything collecting a guaranteed contract. The Final nitro was the end of March 01. DDP revealed himself as Saras stalker in mid June 01 (there was also a few weeks build before this reveal) he gets buried by the undertaker (or Sara) and is on the card for WWF Invasion in July 01. Also it’s widely known that DDP was one of the few guys who took a buy out on their contract because he wanted a good run in WWF (which didn’t happen)
The WCW Relaunch was doomed from the get go. And rankings in wrestling aren't needed. Just write compelling storylines and have good characters.
Anyone remember Kung Fu-Naki? xD that gimmick was stereotyped af
Remember when TNA tried to do fan-voted power rankings? Desmond Wolfe kept getting the top ranking, and when they tried holding another vote, Wolfe won again. Obviously the Powers That Be didn't want him to win, so they gave the fans what they wanted and put Wolfe in a title match, in which he was promptly beaten in around four minutes.
@rayvenkman2087
Жыл бұрын
A good booker would have taken that as a clue about how over a wrestler is.
@marcusegemba1695
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like when they buried Tazz
For Vince McMahon to bring back wcw at that point in time, he would have needed the big names Hogan nash Goldberg sting.
Oh, i remember Brazo de Plata (Super Porky). May he rest in peace. Great wrestler. Los Brazos forever!
My man Andy deserves more subs. Dude is a legit workhorse when it comes to putting out solid quality wrasslin content
That rubber fist on Hulk Hogan's helmet is ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS!! He had better thank god that internet memes weren't around in the 80's.
Bob Holly was the only opponent that Bart didn't knock down or knock out in the Brawl for All it did however benefit his career by getting him out of the New Midnight Express and Bombastic Bob gimmick and into his most successful gimmick Hard-core Holly. Completely ruined Barts career though and he was the winner.
@IrishKyokushin
Жыл бұрын
Bart did go on to have a successful career in All Japan's and later New Japan.
I haven't watched weekly wrestling shows in several years so I don't know how bad Raw Underground really was but I don't think it was a terrible idea. 3 hour Raws without a live crowd during the pandemic needed something to help fill that time and give some energy so I can see what they were trying to do.
@numa2k147
Жыл бұрын
It was bad. Poorly executed
@Thor-Orion
Жыл бұрын
Raw should never be 3 hours long!
@SaintPhoenixx
Жыл бұрын
It would have been a cool idea if it was it's own show, completely separate from the rest of the company. Imagine once a week, getting an hour long show where you don't need to know any context or history, you can jump in at any point and it's just a more extreme, edgy show that gives jobbers and midcarders a platform to do crazy shit without needing to really do any promos or storytelling. Just have 5 matches between random members of the roster with big spots, backstage brawls, a more hard-core style and none of the big, larger than life theatrics. It would be pointless but fun and it'd give some underappreciated members of the roster something to do and to show their talents on.
@Sanguivore
Жыл бұрын
@@SaintPhoenixx Hey, that sounds like a money idea, mate!
Love the way you transition between your list entries so they lead into each other.
I gotta admit i love Brawl for All. Not because the fights were good or that pro wrestling should move in that direction, but because of how much of a shitshow it was. It was so bad it was great.
PG Era should be #1 on this list
.the ammount of failed & abandoned concepts that happened in the past 15 months is shocking
How about the XFL. Granted Big Ben Roethlisberger started his career there, but still...why, Vince, why?
@numa2k147
Жыл бұрын
It's failed experiment IN the WWE. Not Vince failed experiments
@tommygraen4805
Жыл бұрын
@@numa2k147 i gotcha, but technically, most of these were during Vinces tenure, so... 😏
@mattielindsey8685
Жыл бұрын
Big ben never played in the XFL lmao.
@tommygraen4805
Жыл бұрын
@@mattielindsey8685 sorry about that. I thought he had.
Bob Holly wasn't knocked out. He went the distance with Bart Gunn. Bart was awarded the fight on points.
Russo only wanted to do the brawl for all simply to see Bradshaw get his ass kicked. That's the only reason
Wow do hulk hogan
Top 6. 1. Wellness policy not working. How many wrestlers could there had been managers today if they were still alive. 2. Not having procedures in place for Blue Blazer 3. Screwing over Bret 4., Rushing through the invasion angle. They had DDP and Booker T. They could of had hour 1 of RAW be wcw and hour 2 WWE. 5. Vader's run 6. Having Sting vs HHH instead of Taker
1) NOT a durag. It was a bandanna 2) I’d dial back on “that being said” and other transitional phrases as they’re getting repetitive almost to the point of parody. LOVE what you do, just a minor tweak
Call me crazy but there's enough former collegiate wrestlers on the roster that I'd love to see a shoot grappling tournament.
@citi360
Жыл бұрын
This!!
@jtower1000
7 ай бұрын
Yea me too.....heard about an angle v lesser shoot backstage. Would love to see those two grapple in each of their primes
Brawl For All was the moment of glory for Bart Gunn... Until Butterbean knocked him out at WM 15. :)
You should post the audio to these vids as a podcast series on streaming platforms, I love having these vids on in the background. :) thanks for your work!
I wonder if they ever considered a McMahon vs Ted Turner match at WrestleMania 😂
@Sanguivore
Жыл бұрын
Dude, I honestly wouldn't doubt it, lol.
I forget WWE’s Rankings system existed because wins and losses don’t matter in WWE.
Raw underground was so cool imo
Man there have been many failed experiments in WWE and beyond...but we all need to agree that the brawl for all was a disaster 🙈🤣...keep these vids coming brother 👌🏻👌🏻
@paulcowlishaw
Жыл бұрын
What about The Brood??
Honestly the universal championship cuz idk why the give up the big gold belt for the wwe championship in a different color
I would have expected a mention of the McMahon Million Dollar Giveaway or how it was called... which for international audiences watching replays felt even more of a waste of time during the show. As for the rankings, they sound like a cool idea in theory, but in practice they are a mess to incorporate in the storylines: it wasn't just Vince hectic booking, also in AEW they are only used when convenient and otherwise other means to select a #1 contender are picked to make the storylines progress.
@ZDiddy7777
Жыл бұрын
AEW uses the rankings for the most part, all the shit talking srems from the tag division when they were trying to keep the Bucks and FTR apart but couldnt beat either one. Thats really been the only time the rankings have been ignored
@cliffordjackson3
Жыл бұрын
FACTS dude while the aew ranking system can be messy most of the time but in my opinion I think they handled better then the wwe did back in 2018.
I knew the Brawl for All would be one the list. Thanks for the new video, Andy. Happy Wrestlemania Week 🤩😍
Epic video Great details & memories Thanks Andy
You know they are making a action figure of hulk with that helmet!! I pre ordered mine.
The WCW would have worked with NWO, and Goldberg. Booker T with someone other than buff would have been great too. Thanks for the great video
Dean vs Scotty... instantly thought of NewLegacyInc's Smackdown 2 RTC playthrough lol
Wow this was a great video hard to separate yourselves content from all the other wrestling channels but this was fresh and different
I had no idea about that stupid Hulk Hogan helmet. What the hell?!
I loved Farooq's helmet if it had been fine tuned just a little bit more like WWE getting fully behind Farooq's warrior king gimmick it could have worked. Like I know ppl shit on the whole "new age gladiator" gimmick Farooq had and I think he could/should have just been introduced as Ron Simmons but I truly believe that if WWE had given him the right push he could have been their answer to Thanos sorta like how Vader was supposed to be
4:15 actually he created The Brawl For All for All to actually shut up John Bradshaw Layfield saying he could beat any of these guys in a shoot (Dark Side Of The Ring:The Brawl for All)
Brawl for all. My days..
Jesus, I forgot in the early 2010s when WWE was super kid friendly. It was almost like Nickelodeon 😂
@Facade953
Жыл бұрын
The years 2009 and 2010 were the WORST ever when it comes to both the PG rating as well as matches, writing, roster and creative decisions.
Wow, one whole story that took place pre 2010. You'd think WWE pro wrestling was a new company with no history that's interesting
The Hulk Hogan War Bonet was on TV during Hogan's Event Center promos but that's as far as it got.
This going to be good
I’m surprised you didn’t mention TOUT.
You on a roll with your contents🤘
well maybe now that Vince and other Vince is gonne there will no longer be sucky concepts
I didn’t really have a problem with Raw Underground. It was a distraction from the sad shows at the PC and Thunderdome. A for effort
You know that Hogan Helmet would fetch a high price in an auction today
@marcuscarr123
Жыл бұрын
Someone must have it.
Yo they should bring that VR thing back everybody pretty much now on meta aka the Oculus! Give me a light if you own one!
I was so hardcore as a kid I would have bought and wore Hogans war bonnet!!!!!
Vince was NEVER going to make Raw into Nitro. Vince intentionally sabotaged that match. Booker T was the right guy, but Buff Bagwell should never have been his opponent. Plus that week they were in the northeast, whereas the following week, it was going to be in Atlanta. Which would have gotten the crowd to be involved in the match.
The mid 2000s junior division literally proves how bad the mid 2000s were in wrestling loo
And this is why I’m very VERY glad Vince McMahon is gone from WWE. Please Triple H do us all a justice, you’ve been doing a helluva good start so far.
@cliffordjackson3
Жыл бұрын
FACTS.
Wwe have idea i like is was raw underground
@taureanmay7480
Жыл бұрын
True.
Andy's Videos Are Awesome 😎
I really really thought NXT Kids program was going to be a much much different idea than what actually happened. Like wow.
There’s a figure out now with the Hulkster in helmet.
1:45 this is not terrible booking, I'm sure millions and millions of people would pay good money to watch Beetlejuice punch Jeff Jarrett in the balls.
I wonder if Hulk Hogan still has that helmet?
@martynodonnell8467
Жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan is a helmet
@thebandit0256
Жыл бұрын
Burn!!!!!! Is that an 3rd degree burn
I loved checking out the VR once month
The thing is WWE VR isn't a horrible idea but it should be put on the shelf for now until VR becomes a bit more popular and the technology better and cheaper. Hell it's slowly growing with phone VR sets and the Oculus making proper headsets at affordable prices. I'd say give it a few more years, decade at max.
Radio WWFand Shotgun Saturday Night also spring to mind .
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@WRESTLEWITHANDY
Жыл бұрын
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@mgtwrestling123
Жыл бұрын
@@WRESTLEWITHANDY good video👍
@tyreepowell8367
Жыл бұрын
@@WRESTLEWITHANDY You're Number # 1 Great Work
I have to admit, I LOVED the Brawl For All. Remove the take downs, and just let the self proclaimed hard men swing for the fences.
24/7 title should be on this list
Sometimes u just gotta call an adoble and hey maybe if done by the right person it may be a success
I will say one person did come out of the brawl for it all and make it a career. Bob Holly became Hardcore Holly after being the only person in the tournament who fought and didn’t get KOed by Bart Gunn. So it worked out for 1 person!!!!!!!!!!
ranking system would be cool but wwe needs to try long form storylines. learn from others to make a good product
I do love that WCW Invasion logo. A WCW relaunch could have worked.
The WWE VR was kinda cool tho
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WCW relaunch may have worked if they would have held out one more week and debut in WCW friendly Atlanta rather then Seattle. Rebuild the base in the South, then expand into area like Texas, St. Louis, Chicago, and the Northeast & Finally West Coast.
The brawl for all full shoot but yet real fighter's either didn't do it or couldn't do what they could so it made everyone look bad even the person who won got knocked out by a "pro"
the light heavyweights were "over" with me. 🤣🤣😂
Think the wildcard rule would have been cool if they had it so two wrestlers from a roster can turn up to the other brand when they want. You could have tag teams sneak across, lay out a rival tag team and have them feud. Comedy moments where Smackdown Wrestler A turns up on Raw and Smackdown Wrestler B turns up and they do the Spiderman meme, then team up to take on the other roster and set up a totally unseen feud.
@brainthebrian3690
Жыл бұрын
It would have worked if it was a privilege that could be granted for a period of time, and if they made highlight of who got it, having the surprise be when they showed up and why.
Hulk said the only reason he wore the helmet was to sell them on the WWF store, it was a gimmick for more money.
High flyin wrestling greatest flyers
Brawl for all was an Amazing idea for me, but raw underground was so stupid 🤣🤣🤣
best videos good shit
Wow
Vince never gave ideas long enough, by the time it gets popular they scrapped it, this happened when Lex EXpress and such ideas. WCW relaunch would have been good and could have started a WWE vs WCW battle like Raw and Smackdown.
Only possible people that could possibly win a modern day brawl for all in my opinion are as followed; Brock Lesnar, Bobby Lashley, And Gable Steveson. I’m not too certain who could legitimately win a tournament such as that due to the information we have about CTE and brain injuries so it’s just a better idea to stay faaaaaaaar away from anything such as a “shoot fight” tournament.
Raw Underground was cool
The fact that mexicans were able to see Mr. Porky on the WWE is something special for Mexican wrestling; I mean everybody on Mexico loves him
WTF Super Beetlejuice man.
Something is obviously missing. I remember when Sunday night heat premiered, it was an amazing continuation of the story line. The characters had a lil freedom over their characters and it showed! Now the writing and story lines are just weak!
KING OF OLD SCHOOL: THE STEVE CORINO STORY
Going pg was the worst.
WCW, ECW relaunches failed, XFL fail.. 24-7 title.. fail.. NXT 2.0 fail.. Cruiserweight title fail.. I could go on.. Tough Enough tryouts fail..
i really never heard about dark raw before.
I liked Raw Underground personally