This video is so spot on. My friend who was working as a patient care coordinator for a plastic surgeon who opened up a clinic in Calabassas California and it also had a skin rejuvenation side that used a professional grade RF Machine. At night when everyone left, he would be the last person to lock up the place, well he decided to secretly start using the RF Device on himself because it would give him immediate results by firming and tightening his skin and then he would apply a bunch of serums, go home, get dolled up and go out to the clubs. He ended up moving back to Oregon abruptly and OH MY GOSH, when I saw his face I was MORTIFIED!!! He was NOT trained on how to use the device and literally dissolved not only that fat pads in his cheeks, but the fat in the mid facial section and even the tissues in his nose. I thought he was sick or on drugs and that's when he told me that he had damaged his face from the RF Device and thought that he had a close enough relationship with one of the aestheticians and asked her to help him fix it. She reported him to the Doctor and they pulled him into the office and explained that what he had done was not reversible and that only a fat transfer or fillers would replace all the volume he had destroyed and even those procedures would have to be repeated overtime. He was terminated immediately and it is so sad, because he is such a social butterfly and he ruined his good looks. I've never heard him cry so hard and it haunts me to this day. So to see this video and hear exactly what improper usage of this device can do, really put things into perspective for me. This is a valuable lesson for anyone reading this to be an honest employee and to NEVER use high grade medical devices on yourself, especially if you are not licensed nor trained!....

@Matt-uv2yg

Жыл бұрын

Omg what a story. Poor guy!

@secretadmirer5006

Жыл бұрын

@reneelynch710 was it Linda Evangelista?

@moirasacerdotisa

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh, thanks you for teach

@Bebedollie

Жыл бұрын

Woah

@TheGia71

Жыл бұрын

@Renee Lynch linda evangelista with CoolSculpting ?

At 61 all I do is botox around every 4 to 6 months. Heavy moisturizer and retinA at night and only a good sunscreen during the day. That's all I'm willing to do. It gets to be to much. Plus I try not to gain to much weight. So far I'm happy with my aging.

@lisabaltzer4190

Жыл бұрын

I am 63. All I use is soap.

@PsycheandButterfly

Жыл бұрын

It’s better to keep it simple as all these products can add inflammation and barrier damage, anyway. All you need is a way of washing your face once a day, moisturising/hydration and SPF as the basics. Everything else compliments that, but that’s the foundation.

@hawaiigirl8089

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone is YOU. Some of us want to keep on using technology to slow down aging. That’s us

@hawaiigirl8089

Жыл бұрын

WHAT YOU just said about these lasers & age related vs disappointed women blaming fat loss & its aging is PURE BULLSHIT. Stop 🛑 that please! A. The laser if not a hoax SHOULD deliver better skin results, not worse & if fat was lost due to a laser- it would be Noticeable within less than a year. Normal aging is slower than that!

@erikareed3098

Жыл бұрын

TOO much🙄

Girl… that beautiful, deep green is definitely your color!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Oh thank you!

@CutiePatootie-iu9xj

Күн бұрын

Jesus loves you

Who wants to take these treatments when you know this. Think about it, you may lose your face volume prematurely for good. Then you start to consider fillers and there is no end to it. Use sunscreen and retinol and forget those risky treatments, just my opinion.

I have been praying for your son's recovery and for your wellbeing. Yesterday I was thinking and wondering how you guys were doing, so pleased to see your video. Sending much love from England

I started using RF devices at 38 years with the city’s most famous derm. At that time I was happy with the results. At 44 my friends who didn’t get anything done look at least 5 years younger than me 😢

@stealthis

26 күн бұрын

Maybe it was COVID stress

I found that gaining weight made my face look a lot better! Like so much better I couldn't believe it lol. I hope the best for u thank u so much for this video ❤

@dobcsek

Ай бұрын

For me it’s the opposite. I look a lot younger when I’m slimmer

Skinny, thin skinned white women need to be especially careful with all devices. We especially can not afford any fat loss and I learned this the hard way. I got a really high powered IPL done at a reputable plastic surgeon’s office in Beverly Hills and I experienced an immediate flattening of my cheeks over the following days. I was so distraught about it that I had to get filler. They *say* that it is not possible for IPL to cause fat loss because it doesn’t go that deep but my face and filler bills say otherwise. I also have the before and after photos to prove it. I think a lot of these device are too risky for people that have extremely thin skin and minimal facial fat.

@APKSANTACRUZ

Жыл бұрын

These new medical devices and procedures do not get evaluated in any systematic way. Filler migrates and people are experimenting on their faces and future looks. Be careful - it's impossible to avoid aging.

@jeanetteh.9240

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm sorry that happened to you.

@lolagranola77

Жыл бұрын

you didnt look swollen or sunburt after? i feel like my face has doubled in size

@roseyrach8547

5 ай бұрын

It happened to me getting 3 Vbeam pulsed dye lasers. Changed my skin texture and volume loss in cheeks.

@SunnySideup-ks7ot

2 ай бұрын

It happened to me at a reputable plastic surgeon. It was very distressing but after 12 years I have gotten a lot of improvement.

THANK YOU for making this video! This is the top #1 FAQ I get about my at-home rf devices. I always say they don't reach the fat layer and tell everyone to make sure they follow the manual for best results. So happy to see this video!

Thank you so much for this. Morpheus 8 results for me were not what I hoped. Definitely caused major fat loss where I didn’t want it.

@justagirl7780

Жыл бұрын

she was promoting it just a few months ago.... Dr Dray sucks

@Tilr701

5 ай бұрын

Hi I have similar experience with Fortuna 4d. Can one resolve this😢

@gwenStar

5 ай бұрын

Same here, it had no effect on my acne scars but i look older now i’ve done it for several months. Such a waste of money, time and look.

I used the Newa device for 8 weeks and it was during a super busy time in my life so I really didn’t pay much attention to any results during that time. Just committed the time and really kind of ignored assessing an outcome until the end. I was genuinely shocked when I finally took the time to stop and take stock of what progress I was making. I have always had very full cheeks naturally, and my big full cheeks are…..flat. I panicked. I didn’t even know that was possible. I was seriously wondering if I was just imagining it but truly, it’s nearly impossible to deny. I haven’t touched the device since. Frankly, I’ve only considered picking it back up again to use under my chin. If it caused significant fat loss on my full cheeks, which was very upsetting, perhaps it can redeem itself by helping with my double chin! All in all, I advise very real caution. Mine is a cautionary tale.

@Tia-to2qc

Жыл бұрын

Curious how big full cheeks can suddenly go flat, only when you stop to take a look. You didn't notice while using the device looking in the mirror?

@JNWG79

Жыл бұрын

@@Tia-to2qc I can imagine that sounds odd. I’m probably the odd one…..I just don’t spend much time looking in the mirror. (ETA: I don’t use a mirror when I use the device.) One of my children has special needs and, as such, looking in the mirror is a bit of a luxury. I’m always on the go. The whole reason I decided to use this device was because, on those occasions I would take the time to stop and look, I wasn’t loving what I was seeing. So, no, I don’t think this happened suddenly. I imagine it happened gradually over the course of 8 weeks and I simply didn’t take the time to look. I know that probably sounds strange to a lot of people, but a lot of my life is a bit outside what is typical. That’s just how it goes I guess. LOL

@fearless6947

Жыл бұрын

@@JNWG79 I think read the whole youtube comment section first. Someone said, they lost the fat but gained a turkey neck. Let us know the make you are using too

@JuliaShalomJordan

Жыл бұрын

Oh man.😟 I’m so sorry. Could I ask which at home device you used?

@slysays

Жыл бұрын

@@Tia-to2qc oh wow , thx so much for sharing. could you pls share which home device r u using ?

She’s right about RF at home devices. I’ve been using the NEWA for months. It hasn’t caused any fat loss whatsoever

@kite6864

9 ай бұрын

did you see any results with it

@esofia08

9 ай бұрын

@@kite6864 truthfully I wasn’t seeing much result… and I did it for months. So I switched to an LED red light therapy mask. I see my lines have gotten better with that

@kristenzallar1491

8 ай бұрын

I have been using Newa for 2 years. I love it and it definitely has improved my skin. I am know 55. Follow the directions and don't over do it.

@Elxosonia

5 ай бұрын

​@@kristenzallar1491 is it work for arms as well? I'm about to purchase one for my upper arm

Awesome informative video. You are one of the few KZread dermatologists I admire for explaining things in depth and making recommendations.

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I’m just so confused because Dr.D is saying the at home devices WILL NOT cause fat loss but then you have all these people commenting they used them and had soooo much fat loss? I understand In clinic procedures but again she’s stating there is no way these at home machines can get hot enough or penetrate to the level that is needed to dissolve fat! What am I missing?

Love your hair here ...looks so healthy and forest green looks good on you!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

thank you

That shade of green is flattering to your skin tone, eyes and hair; nice sweater. Thank you for explaining RF.

So I should buy this and use it on my stomach!

I have an RF device and I use it on my chin and neck ONLY. Love the results so far.

@thatgirlwhousedtohavereall5549

11 ай бұрын

Me too. I also take L-lysine (about 10 years now) its an amino acid that encourages collagen production.

@HellBelle666

6 ай бұрын

What a good idea! 🤔

@lauren6452

6 ай бұрын

Which device ?

@aliyahlove58

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I bought a device only used it once now I’m scared to use it 😅 Is it also okay to use it on the lower belly?

@jtrover

5 ай бұрын

@@lauren6452 It's a 3 in 1 40K RF/cavitation device I bought from Ali Express.

WHEW! This came just in time! I was *seriously* considering having this procedure with microneedling! Thank you!!

@justagirl7780

Жыл бұрын

dont do it.

@vetsai8199

Жыл бұрын

@@justagirl7780 Thanks! I decided NOT to!👍🏼

Thank you for this video Dr. Dray! You are such a gem to provide us with facts to age gracefully and caution us to be aware of these treatments.

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@cookmymeat

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrayzday Hi Dr. Dray! Could RF devices lead to faster filler dissolution after overdoing them? Asking, ahem, for a friend obviously. -- Madonna

@lightningandthunder2861

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrayzdayis red light therapy safe for darker skin with melasma?

Yes! I bought one last year of Amazon, and used for a month… my cheeks started to go saggy and I could feel fat lose. I think I caught it in time, I’ve been doing facial yoga face tapping and it’s plumped them a bit but my cheeks are so much more hollow now because of the device I bought.

@danny1682

Жыл бұрын

Aren't home devices not a problem? They don't reach high temps.

@emilierose-biche

Жыл бұрын

What facial yoga ?

@danny1682

Жыл бұрын

@@emilierose-biche Sorry, I didn't have a comment.

@setme4ree

Жыл бұрын

Same

@mistymiss

Жыл бұрын

She said all the studies have shown this isn't true.

I've commented this on other channels before, but never got a real answer. It's not just the fat loss issue that has raised a lot of questions, it's also the frequency of use. If we’re denaturing the collagen, is the goal not to allow for it to go through a full collagen cycle, which takes at least four weeks? Otherwise, wouldn't you just be breaking down the collagen over and over again before it was able to rebuild? If these devices aren't strong enough to break down collagen they wouldn't really work and if they are it wouldn't make sense to use them several times a week or even every day. None of the manufacturers seem to be able to provide any answers to this.

@pam50742

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting observation.. let me know if u have an answer

@poppyherrera77

9 ай бұрын

I was thingking the same thing! 😢

Thank you, Dr Dray. I got the Tripollar Stop VX gold at the start of the pandemic and I love that it's made the fine lines around my eyes and mouth so much less noticeable. (or maybe that's the Omnilux?). I don't even use it as often as I'm supposed to. Glad you mentioned that it's never been shown to cause fat loss. The heat is barely noticeable so I can't see how that could cause fat loss; however, I can't tolerate the RF+DMA mode on my jawline, so I haven't used that.

I had Sylfirm X and was lied to by the RN that did the procedure on me. She specifically told me it doesn’t melt fat. Ended up disfiguring my face. It’s been nine months and my life is forever changed.

@jaysoncheong8549

Жыл бұрын

I experince the same! I had 3 sessions of sylfirm x. Now my cheeks sunken a lot. No more sylfirm x session for me!

@AnnasOrchids

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysoncheong8549 could you leave a review on realself? People need to know the truth. I got so badly damaged.

@AnnasOrchids

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysoncheong8549 you can also file a formal complaint to the FDA.

I had HIFU done on my double chin, since i had done kybella twice, and left my double chin saggy... and then i had HiFU done on my face and I regret it so much. Now I have thin skin, mild open pores and I didnt even need it!! I did it cuz the esthetician said it would thighten my skin and make me look younger😢😢😢. But I see a tremendous difference and luckly I had it done ince on my face. Twice on my double chin. And when i asked her if it was going to melt my face she said yes a little but for the better....😭😭😭😭😭 and is not true.. it is not for the better. I wish I could turn back time and never had that done!

@nosanice2866

9 ай бұрын

Hiya. How’s your skiing looking like now after 6 months? Thanks x I’ve just had HIFU treatment and I’m so worried now

@Tilr701

5 ай бұрын

Hi I had done Fortuna and I have the same issue. 😢

No surprise here. If people are going to jump on every anti aging device like Lemmings, they are going to pay the piper. Give your face a rest. Anyone I know who is a minimalist has the least aged skin. Lasers, RF, acids. Wow! Love your skin and give it a break!

This was so helpful. I didn’t realize they could change the settings. This important to know and I will be discussing this with my provider.

My face was great in my 40s and 50s it's my 60s that I'm seeing the sign of the times thanks for the info

running to Amazon to get one to use on my body until I disappear

@juliemoses1909

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@jackson261996

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I’m dead 😂

@Lilah1754

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good one!! 😂

@nurse.carmela

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@chuachua-hj9zd

6 ай бұрын

So humorous. Maybe can use it on the tummy

So happy i get to see this before doing rf

Thank you so much again! I have the tripolar, and I’ve stopped using it because I was worried and I am happily going to use it again. Love your videos. I am so glad that you went over this particular device.

My observation: ​I worked in surgery clinic with doctors, watching all patients and we also modelled to check effects of treatments ourselves. I unfortunately wanted RF machine called Morpheush and regreted. After one session, my cheeks flatten so bad. I wanted opposite effect as I am 30, tightening and plumping. If professional tells you something is wrong its not for their benefit, its for yours 🤗 My friend used it for belly after weight loss and as you can imagine, RF is wonderful for belly as we never lack fat there even after 25yo🙃 So people- RF is amazing but for jaw if someone have fat or stubborn belly or thighs 🙌🏾 but not for most of face

@beyzabeyza8190

Жыл бұрын

hey, a year ago I had rf applied to my face 4 times and my cheeks flatten too. do you know how can I fix that?

@annalovebrows

Жыл бұрын

@@beyzabeyza8190 If you do mid face filler it will look natural, doctor inject cheek apples next to nose, i injected two syringes and looked great, natural, or maybe think of Sculptra for next time if you will like the effect( filler you can dissolve)

Happy Wednesday! Have a great day! The video you reference about the changes in bone and skin was one of the best videos. I frequently go back to that one. My eyelids are starting to droop and I now understand why and not so hard on my in my 40’s self. Thank you! Have a fabulous day! 💙💙💙

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! You too!

@fearless6947

Жыл бұрын

This happen's to almost everyone in there 40's. It happened to me

@alyshal417

Жыл бұрын

@@fearless6947 thank you for letting me know. It’s reassuring it happens to lots of people.

@fearless6947

Жыл бұрын

@@alyshal417 80 percent of the damage is from sunlight and not looking after the skin. 20 percent is from actual aging. I heard when you reach 55, you face and body will droop even more. It's possible to have less wrinkles, but the shape of your face change's because of fat lost and gravity. If you do skincare, you still look much younger than most 55 year olds, so it still makes a difference. Obviously healthy food and exercise, makes a difference too

@TheRuthyc

Жыл бұрын

@Fearless. Hi fearless, I was hoping that at age 64 that it isn't too late to start skincare. My face shape has already changed, it looks like a peanut. I have eye bags. I lost weight due to illness too fast from not eating or drinking. I hop I can improve some. After reading the comments here, I think it is too risky to use radiofrequency at home device, even tripollar stop. I have only looked after my skin sporadically, so I guess I am paying the price. Since you say a lot of the damage is from lack of skincare, do I have a chance if I start at this late stage?

These "procedures" are carried out by estheticians in my state. To put it in perspective, that is 5-8 months of training to get an esthetician license plus a few day’s training on each machine - training sponsored by the manufacturer. I’ve never once encountered a dermatologist in these spa settings or offices. They are a means of passive income for dermatologists, - the risk is passed to the patient.

@MissKrisLoves

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry your state appears to be lacking in training for estheticians. That isn't true for every state or country. Many estheticians are highly trained. Some are nurse estheticians as well. Just putting into perspective for people in other areas.

Happy Wednesday Dr Dray🌷and community, have a wonderful day😊

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Same to you!

@josipag2185

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too

@lucyoconnor4562

Жыл бұрын

Hope you have wonderful day also and thank you for the lovely sentiment 😊

@Novemberrain111

Жыл бұрын

@@lucyoconnor4562 thank you have a blessed day❤

@Novemberrain111

Жыл бұрын

@@josipag2185 ❤🌷🤗

Morpheus hollowed out my under eyes. I have never had bags or discoloration no matter how tired hung over etc. I got 1 treatment done looked horrible for 3 months only to start having purple hue under my eyes because of inadvertent fat loss that will never go back to normal. I have read doctors saying “you happen to be aging at the same time “ obviously that’s the case with everyone. I didn’t spring into menopause the second the bruising went away. It may help an actual piece of skin hanging anything outside of that is going to be irreversible and regressive in time. I’m going to demand my balance be put towards prp micro needling or they are going to have hell to pay. I called the office within 3 weeks and said what the hell is under my eyes!?? I got all standard handbook excuses. I got this done in January after ignoring comments on a previous video of Dr D. I’m still left with a indentation ring basically around the orbital bone and might need filler. Buyer beware!

@dreamie9868

2 ай бұрын

Hi, how are you doing now?

@MilaJesseNicole

2 ай бұрын

@@dreamie9868 It took about a year to get 80% better.

@dreamie9868

2 ай бұрын

@@MilaJesseNicole Thank you for responding. I was asking because I'm going through the same thing myself. Did yours get better naturally or did you have to get procedures done?

@MilaJesseNicole

2 ай бұрын

@@dreamie9868 Luckily I had nothing to complain about as mentioned regarding under eye even at 44 years old so even the most subtle changes were very noticeable to me. I did do a very high TCA peel and got pretty close under my eyes and that seemed to help a bit. I would say its significantly better but not exactly how it was prior but now that could be easily called "age". But in actuality the device fast-forwarded age. I would highly recommend PRP or PRF under your eyes with microneddling and maybe superficial injections of either of those and that would probably help a ton.

@lisamichelin2055

3 күн бұрын

Omg I got an orbital pocket after microneedling done at spa they ould not even address the situation

I say skip the RF if you're afraid of fat loss and just do NeoGen Plasma, it's literally so amazing! @Dr Dray, can you do a video on NeoGen? it's a newer device in the US but has been around in Europe for awhile!

@ChloeEngel-fc4mf

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I went to a medspa that was really pushing neogen and raving about it… it’s new so I’d love to hear anything anecdotal - have you tried it?

@madeleinebugbee2986

Жыл бұрын

@@ChloeEngel-fc4mf I have! I've done 4 treatments since late November 2022, and have definitely seen results from it. I first did a low energy treatment, then 2 low/high energy treatments, and finally a low energy treatment most recently. I start to see firming of my skin usually between 2 weeks and 2 months after a session, and changes in the skin can continue for 4 to 6 months. My low energy treatments have absolutely been beneficial, but I'm wondering if I should have just done one or two high energy treatments instead for better results. NeoGen has become my go-to because it can be used on the eyelids. I highly recommend! Some people can get dramatic results with just one or two low energy treatments, but high energy does have a little more oomf.

I don’t think that actual aging is noticeable from one day to the next…I’m 35 and after a Morpheus8 injury I could tell within a few weeks of healing the damage was done and there was no going back ..let’s not discount how dangerous this treatment truly is. Real aging should take time but with these treatments it does more damage than any good

I am so glad I have been too poor to actually do any of these things over the years

I have followed a few pages that use different types of home devices. RF, Sonic Ultrasound, Light therapy, micro current, etc. Honestly, I've seen some, where their faces have aged drastically in short periods of time. It seems there is overuse and incorrect use. Once a week at a minimum~ to twice a month. Facial massage "light massage" using hands or guasha tool is an excellent choice. Alternating between different types of devices on a weekly basis, with only a five minute MAX time frame~ when utilizing at home devices. Be aware~ even over use of at home products can change the integrity of your skin and fat layers, as well. Facial yoga and guasha massage reposition fat and assist in lymphatic drainage. Over washing the skin, too and using harsh products can also cause inflammation and destroy the protective layer of the skin, which assist in retaining moisture. I have been involved in the Beauty/Health industry for many years. I plan on launching a page to assist women in natural care of hair, skin and health where practical advice positive advice can be given. Most women, wait until there skin is drastically aging or damaged. Though, good news.. Skin can be renewed without drastic measures and spending thousands of dollars. My IG Enchantedrosemagick. I will have details there in the future for anyone looking for natural alternatives to Beauty.

I had 2.5mm RF dermastamp - 4 painful sessions. It caused drastic fat loss in my face. I'm 28 and I look 40. I went to experienced dermatologist to treat deep acne scarring (combined with subcision and tca cross).

@stealthis

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry for you!

@tatianaa.3694

Жыл бұрын

😥 sorry that happend to you, but thanks for sharing

@hra2290

Жыл бұрын

Aww I’m sorry 😢

@Tanyalake955

Жыл бұрын

How did u recover from it? Who was ur doc?

@anononnl

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry!

I absolutely love that lipstick on you! Looking gorgeous Dr. Dray!

Your videos are so informative. I have an NRGY device from Truth Treatments that I’ve been using for several years. This makes me want to just quit using anything but red light therapy. I would love for you to do a video on Stemfactors/Growth factors. Are they really worth the money and do they help with aging? Thank you for doing all the work for us.

Thanks for the information. I have ptosis and I plan on buying the Tripollar Stop Eye RF device. I'll definitely underdo it a little and check for any problems. I think a few before pictures and weekly pictures might help me catch a problem before its too late.

This is true!! I bought one for home use and I noticed that I lost volume on my upper cheeks/ face. Something within me told me don't use it anymore: haven't ever since. I also got two in office treatment jawline & neck and it happened again in the area where you get turkey neck it got slightly but noticeably loose skin. Never again!! My neck area is now firm & toned!! I started taking collagen and it seemed to help to plump my skin! Thank goodness I caught on with a first treatments and stopped!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

which device did you use?

@angieb4215

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrayzday there’s a couple subreddits that are all about skin care and I don’t know if you’ve seen them but holy moly there are a tons of folks that could benefit from your advice. I constantly refer them to these videos. It’s absurd how seeing a dermatologist is so hard for so many folks. I tag your videos every chance I get. Thank you for sharing. You are so special.

@JA-ro3zv

Жыл бұрын

Same experience I had. It first happened years ago with a really good provider and then I bought a home device and thinking that it wouldn't happen with a home device and it did.

@sandragoldfadim870

Жыл бұрын

Dr Dray love your channel wonderful advice learned a lot from u I purchased a nebulyft and use every evening no problems however is it ok to use daily also daily I use omnilux and nira my skin looks wonderful can at home devices even though weaker be used daily I have been doing for about 8 months now thank you

@malejaargo

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrayzday Mine is nuskin galvanic spa. One side of my jaw lost volume significantly :( It's been 5 years since I stopped using it for that reason. I'm 30 y/o now. Thank you for posting this video.

Thank you for this! I've been seeing all the horror stories and have been so curious about what an expert would say.

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

I’d be interested your review of red light therapy.

@db-gb5xi

Жыл бұрын

She's got videos on red light therapy.

Happy Wednesday Dr Dray so excited to be here I live for this ❤️

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Sounds like it would be great for the stomach but risky for the face. I'm 58 and still have a good amount of fat in my face. I think it's what keeps me looking younger so I would never risk this.

Dr. Dray can you please talk about Thermage. It is the gold standard of Radiofrequency. Thank you

You look really pretty this morning! Thank you for this great information! You’re great at educating us! 🥰

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I have used TriPollar's facial RF devices (STOP Eye and STOP X Rose) for half a year and if anything, my face feels fuller and more plump, with less hollow cheeks. If the devices could melt fat then that would actually be awesome since I could use it to melt my under eye fat pads (aka eye bags). No such luck so far, just tighter and brighter under eye skin which does reduce the appearance of bags in a different way :)

@Padam91

Жыл бұрын

It's funny that when you frame the same issue as desirable, people think it's less likely. I think our lizard brains are always scanning for threats, making negative scenarios seem more likely than they are. People tend to be doubtful that fat melting devices or procedures work for the body where loss of fat is considered positive, but are very cautious of many facial procedures and treatments in case they might cause fat loss (tret, red light therapy, RF). If we could melt fat by applying tretinoin then it would be very easy to be skinny!

@cararichman1729

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, home RF devices aren't strong enough to do that or else people would be using them on their butt and thighs lol (by people, I mean me...I'd be using them on my butt and thighs.haha)

@Padam91

Жыл бұрын

@@cararichman1729 TriPollar does have a POSE device for the body, with monopolar technology that is supposed to penetrate deeper and even melt fat. Maybe worth looking into 😊

@meganschiewe8678

Жыл бұрын

My experience was different with this exact device. Just a warning to anyone not to go near the eyes and follow the correct timing. I am 34 and don’t have much facial fat to begin with and this has contributed to facial fat loss in me in the cheeks that now I cannot reverse.

@bunnylover2164

Жыл бұрын

@@cararichman1729 I have just bought RF and cavitation/ ultra sound etc 6 in 1 slimming machine for body and face, so who knows? but deffo wont be using it on my face.

You are so helpful. Thank you for explaining the risks in depth.

Why do we lose fat in our face and gain it in the body? 😡

@justjulia8007

Жыл бұрын

And WHYYYYY does it go precisely where you don’t want it lol????? Like hey fat cells check out my flat chest.. seems like prime real estate not my already poochy tummy!

@glory1ify

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂

@elainelaguna3132

Жыл бұрын

Right , I was thinking same thing 🙄

@Hermitas

Жыл бұрын

Infuriating dilemma

@rejuvenator8966

Жыл бұрын

The same reason we guys lose hair were we want it and gain hair where we don't want it. Aging makes us look like bald apes😂

Good morning to my fav KZreadr!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

happy wednesday!

Your haircut is super--and pretty much what I would like to have. Frankly, you look superb!

Thanks Doctor! This was one of my concerns! I appreciate your addressing it. Your explanations throughout have helped me make corrections to my skincare routines. Hey! Your hair trim makes your hair so pretty!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@jjmedia5632

Жыл бұрын

@@DrDrayzday would this work on my stomach then? 😅

@ginapereira8948

Жыл бұрын

@@jjmedia5632 what about upper arms!

@ginapereira8948

Жыл бұрын

I just saw a lady post before an after photos of her upper arms after using a derma roller! Quite impressive! (fifty plus beauty) ❤️

Could you explain the differences between Renuvion, Profound, and Morpheus as clinical RF options? That would be a great video!

@selectiveoutrage6617

Жыл бұрын

Morpheus 8 is very painful, expensive and little to no results. This according to comments on Hot and Flashy's channel video where she had it done on her neck.

@CosmosandChaos

Жыл бұрын

@@selectiveoutrage6617 I love Angie’s channel! Yes, I’ve heard Morpheus need’s multiple treatments, so I don’t understand the popularity. I have Profound scheduled next month which (seems) more intense and a single treatment needed. I was impressed at the before/after photos of the nurse in my surgeon’s office. Still, it’s confusing with all these clinical RF machines popping up making outrageous claims, when most have unique mechanisms.

@valelareinita

Жыл бұрын

@@selectiveoutrage6617 it must be a different video, she just posted one saying she had no pain and she is waiting couple months for the results.

@ryanh4700

Жыл бұрын

I forgot what it is called, but the treatment with your blood mixed with microneedling. Is this good or dangerous?

@justagirl7780

Жыл бұрын

morpheus 8 is very dangerous. dont do it

I find it annoying that many so called skin experts who promoted these products and cosmetic procedures originally , now turn around and criticise them and warn us against them … once the damage is done , think we should just ignore all the hype on any new product

@galaxyglitterlatte4664

Жыл бұрын

Nothing is easy, is it? It seems like everything has side effects just like prescription drugs. It's always something.😒🙄😕

Thank goodness I've had an excellent result from a full treatment (3 sessions 4 weeks apart) of microneedling with RF - using EndyMed at a clinic run by NHS doctors and nurses (in the UK). I'm 51.It significantly tightened my neck and jawline, and made a massive difference on my upper and lower lids. My naturally full cheeks are intact. I know that the machine is programmed to alter the length of the needles for each section of my face and it doesn't go anywhere near as deep as the Morpheus. I'm also on HRT. Just wanted to weigh in with my experience.

@ummtaimann6819

Жыл бұрын

I thought I’ve heard it shouldn’t be used on these areas

@deniseg4028

Жыл бұрын

@@ummtaimann6819 EndyMed has special treatments specifically for these areas, all of the manufacturers seem to. All I can say is that it worked extremely well for me, far beyond any expectation I had, especially at 51. And at the clinic I go to they test every device on themselves several times before offering them to the public. If something isn't effective or isn't safe they won't use it, as they're all NHS doctors and nurses.

@Zarasmadhouse

Жыл бұрын

I was searching for a comment about Endymed!

So is it safe to assume that RF would be helpful on areas of the body where reduction of fat would be a bonus, such as the abdomen?

Fantastic stuff! What about red light therapy?

I’ve always had a fat face, so when turning 50, my face skimmed down. I was pleasantly surprised.

@zuzanna1456

Жыл бұрын

I’m nearly 30 and can’t wait much longer haha using tripollar at home and done rf at a spa twice

Good video very interesting ✨️🎉🙏

Hello Dr!!! Can you give us a quick guideline as to what rf / infrared specification should be used to induce facial fat loss? I’m on a lookout for one because of this video hihi. Thank you ❤

Happy Wednesday, Dr. Dray ❤. Have a great day!

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

You too!

I had very good results with radiofrequency at home device, mixed with dermapen perfect combo, I also do radiofrequency 3 weeks before doing chemical peel, my skin looks fabulous

Great information 👍 Making sure one goes to a reputable provider is so important as well as having an experienced professional. 😀

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Very true!

Thank you Dr Dray even though I naturally have chubby cheeks and use to get pinched non stop being a toddler but best to be safe than sorry. Also you seem to be getting more and more stunning so I will have to check out what other skin recommdentions you point to

I foolishly underwent several sessions of Venus RF and lost so much volume in my face. I fell for a social media post of another woman’s results and foolishly brought into it and now I regret it

I don't know about fat loss but I had a different negative effect from RF. I got Facetite and it ended up causing a big burn mark right on my cheek next to my nose that's now a deep pitted scar. It's so noticable on my face because I've never had any kind of pitted scar marks before. I'm pretty upset about it even moreso because the Facetite gave me 0 results. All that money just to look worse than before.

@alised4056

Жыл бұрын

I hope your provider paid you appropriately. (Not that there’s a price for scarring you.) I’m so sorry this happened. I’ve wanted to try Facetight but I’ve been too uneasy

@Sam3_3

Жыл бұрын

@@alised4056 Thanks for the kind words! Nope, they suggested I do RF microneedling as it would help tighten my cheeks that was my original goal with the Facetite as well as the scar. They also put a little drop off filler in the pits for free so I guess that's something lol. The RF microneedling didn't do much, but to be fair I only did the one session then never went back. But the Facetite was back in August, so the pitted scars have gradually gotten a little better with time and retinal. I didn't mean to scare you off Facetite if you really want it, I think I've just had bad luck with RF in general. I searched online to see if anyone else got burn scars like me from Facetite and could find maybe 1 person at most but they weren't pitted. So I think maybe I'm an outlier.

Happy Wednesday from the pool in Cancun- just taught my companion to make sure to do the ears when you apply sunscreen ❤❤❤

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

I hope you are having a great trip!

@jackiemarsh2470

Жыл бұрын

Have Fun!!🙏🪻🤍

My husband reacts to tripollar amazingly. His jaw line was very loose, he used tripollar 3 times the result is instant. The next day after the treatment, I noticed the jaw line to be much tighter. I like it personally, it didn’t do too much for my smile line yet. But regarding the jawline lifting is amazing result.

@Momo-kq9hd

Жыл бұрын

@@sheridansplace1607 RF home device

@shaunehemphill3259

Жыл бұрын

Can you send a link to exact device you’re using?

@sssparkle

Жыл бұрын

Takes about two months to actually create more collagen so just keep using it regularly

@ryanh4700

11 ай бұрын

What is tri polar?

@TEERAMISU86

6 ай бұрын

yeah, I using Tripllar gold and I can see result 🙂

Thank you Dr. Dray for the information. Those that stated facial fat loss after RF, which device was used?

I just gave my NEWA RF to my Mom and ordered 2 fresh tubes of the gel for her. I have lupus and NEWA said I shouldn’t use it but of course I had to try. So yeah, they were right 😂 . My Mom is 82 and still very beautiful and we are just looking for something to freshen up her laxity and lines. We will probably do it on the low setting for her. Glad to hear it won’t melt her facial fat. Thank you so much for your deep dive on this 🥰

@nicolaxoxo1

Жыл бұрын

Just curious, what happens to lupus patients who use RF?

@julietagomes3396

Жыл бұрын

The laxity of the skin only surgery can fit it.

I grew up in a very primitive, wild, and challenging environment. Every day, people bullied me because of my looks. I had only a few friends, and I treated them poorly because I was unhappy. I directed my aggression and negative emotions toward them, losi

I have a facial device that has RF, heat, and red light therapy. I used it very consistently for about 2 months and it was at that point I took an honest look at my face and I thought I looked worse. Now, I am in my early 70's so I wasn't expecting miracles, but I felt I looked gaunt and then I heard about the fat loss. It is good to know that these at home devices don't cause fat loss, but I seriously have to wonder. I haven't gone back to it, and it has probably been a year. Thinking I might go back to it though after watching this just for the drape under my chin and hope it does zap the fat. One plus is that it causes mild swelling of the face and for several hours after using my face is much plumper but only for about 8 hours. Good for special occasions.

@michy2630

Жыл бұрын

Which device do you have that caused this?

@cbyra12

9 ай бұрын

It’s probably not worth using it again for the temporary plumping effect. The cumulative damage that you noticed from prior use is scary.

So True ... Unfortunely, I was told so many times that you can't have facial fat loss from RF? although i have question the RN nurse or technicians at the Medi spa's..that's the main problems.. This should be told to anyone who is going for any RF procedures..as you don't want to ruin your face. I haven't really do much procedures on my face..as I was very hesitate of these RF treatments. I tried Ultheraphy and since i have a chubby face..it didn't seem to much a a different with a little fat loss..but researching everything.. i rather go for cosmetic surgery as it seem more reliable ..although its expensive..i rather save my money.. and i had one procedure done and I was very happy with the results..you only have one face..you have to be so careful..and the way companies promote so many procedures..it sounds like miracle cure for aging.. but its a bust!!!!!

Happy Hump Day 🐫 Have a great day.

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

happy hump day

s it true that the collagen tightening produced from HIFU and RF is 'disorganised collagen' - effectively scar tissue? It was claimed by a surgeon that the denatured collagen doesn't form regular, orderly collagen and instead meshes together in this disorganised manner. It was also claimed that this scar tissue then makes it difficult for any future surgeries. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thank you so much for this video !!!!

I have little tiny dents in my forehead and sagging of my under eye area from RF at a doctors office, I only did it twice, a year later my skin still has little divots , esp in my forehead. I have always had great skin I am 62 but to have this dramatic change seen that same day and not truly disappearing, RF is not for me. Very disappointing

I bought a SUNMAY VSkin RF EMS device, used the EMS once and RF once on the low setting, and now i have lost so much fat in the face, ruined my face and aged overnight. I know itst the device, because i have some dents on face as well from the things. I followed instructions, used the lowest settings. I bought it off amazon, and when i tried to post review, amazon did not allow it. Cant contact manufactuer. Spoke to plastic surgeon, they said i lost lots of fat. I didnt lose weight. Problem with amazon, once they have 1 or two bad reviews they dont allow more. Reviews are just mainuplated.

I've never heard about this?... man... not having social media really makes me out of the loop. 😅

@marylawman8603

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Lol!! 😁

@chibeauty

Ай бұрын

You’re probably better off without it! 😊

I had one Morpheus 8 done by an experienced doctor. Swollen for a month, and skin darkening. If you have tan to dark skin BECAREFUL. I had to have two rounds of pico sure laser to get my pigmentation back to baseline.

@lynnb4400

Жыл бұрын

I had this procedure done too and gave me dark spots. I have brown skin and now trying to lighten it using Azelaic acid, which I haven’t seen results yet. I am afraid to try other procedures, I will check on picosure.

@justagirl7780

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnb4400 according to dr dray 'its guilty by association' shes just paid by companies to say things shes not a real dermatoglist

@autumn_b905

11 ай бұрын

Besides the skin darkening, did you like the results as far as skin tightening?

Thanks Dr. Dray, I appreciate you always being so informative. Do you have any opinion or experiences on phototherapy devices that use polarized light (not sure that's the English for it)? Thanks.

The esthetician that did my vivace microneedling gave me nerve damage a permanent droopy eye temple fat loss a hole of fat loss inner eye nerve ear pain front and back jaw and neck. Over a yr and still have nerve pain. The vessel on my temple was protruding and pounding to where I could hear it in my ear. I had 2 attorneys and spent so much money on drs out of fear I’d go blind and a mri was diagnosed with trigeneral neuralgia. Sometimes have scalp pain on injured side. The most traumatic experience I’ve had. She turned up the heat and went 1.5 around my eye. I jumped when she went under my inner eye under my eyebrow. I joined a radio damage group on Facebook so depressing. She used vivace microneedling

@deanna6468

Жыл бұрын

😢....hang in there! I hope you win the lawsuit and continue to progress.

Difficult to know how your skin will react to a device/treatment. Laser Genesis has been amazing for me. RF scares me as you can also scar or be burned too.

Like someone else already said, I have had Endymed Microneedling with RF. I have always been quite skinny with a slim face but after my 1st pregnancy, about 1 year after giving birth when I paid attention to my self in the mirror I was shocked with how drawn and skinny my face had become. My under eye area especially was hollow, it looked a bit like a completely different person's. I was 31 at the time. My pregnancy weight dropped very quickly due to newborn year but also going through other stresses at the time and perhaps that was the cause for my face to look that way. I was forced to go for a little bit of under eye filler. Then add 3 more years and second pregnancy/a year postpartum left my skin looking droopy at only 34 years old. The only thing that hasn't changed was my cheek structure - they were always prominent but not through fat but bone structure, however prominent bone structure in the cheek area and the ultra skinnines of my face, started to look unwell, sickly. All I had was sticky out cheek bones. What shocked me then was the visible sagginess of the skin around my jaw (middle jaw part and side of the lips). I went for a Hifu session and Endymed last year and after each skin tightening my face was getting its actual shape and tightness back. It literally looked pulled back. So all in all, in my case it was definitely worth it. I think it's always good to assess individually but also make sure you find a reputable place with responsible specialists and excellent devices. And each one of us is entirely different. The changes I started noticing hit me very fast and unexpectedly and I wasn't ready for them so even if I did have any additional fat loss caused, it wouldn't have been noticeable as my face was already sulken and looked unhealthily skinny and drawn. Thank you for the review though its always so eye opening.

@dedop8360

Жыл бұрын

Eeè

@nvb455

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!! I'm thinking of getting hifu for a bit of tightening. Do you remember what settings they used? Were they targetting the upper dermis of the smas layer?? Thanks

@JinNoctis

Жыл бұрын

Well HIFU is not radiofrequency.. it works with ultrasound.. a completely different procedure

@Zarasmadhouse

Жыл бұрын

@@JinNoctis yes but I mentioned everything I had as I can't pinpoint to one single treatment when it comes to my result - Endymed and Hifu as well as microneedling. Not once did I say hifu and radio-frequency as one and same thing.

@Zarasmadhouse

Жыл бұрын

@@nvb455 I couldn't tell you in detail now sorry

aaaand this is why i'm extremely careful with choosing my doctors. I just don't play around with this stuff, been loyal to the same clinic for over 10 years and I only go to very very very good medical doctors, laser dermatologists with a lot of experience and who are very bright

Good morning Dr.Dray have a wonderful day!! 💕

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

You too!

Please also address that Led light therapy masks do the same thing. They take away your good fat (volume) in your face. Thats what it did to me and I would never touch that thing on my face again. It ruined the shape of my face. I cry now every time I look at pictures of how beautiful my face looked before I tried any red light therapy. These devices are not for everyone. They're marketed to profit, and Im not sure if enough independent studies are done before they launch these to the market.

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

i posted a video this week on led masks and fat loss

I have used a radio frequency home device, I was scared to use it on my face bud I did use it on my lovehandles and I was amazed of the results, my waist got smaller and more curved shape I’m so happy with the results

@valrose6083

Жыл бұрын

May i ask what tool you used?? ☺️ Im definitely interested in trying it on my body!!

@wallflower6942

Жыл бұрын

That's so smart! Please tell us more about what you used and which settings :)

@lBubbleable

Жыл бұрын

I want to know too

@kansasgal2786

Жыл бұрын

@@valrose6083 Same here

@setme4ree

Жыл бұрын

Which one

We go to great lengths to experiment on our selves to gain results that are not guaranteed. That’s why I love the comments section! 😅👆🏻

Thank you for the information!!

Great information, could you do a video about treatments (at home ant at office) for wrinkles under the eyes?

Morning Dr Dray hope u r well n 🖐Hello Every1 n Happy Wednesday😀n what a Wonderful Vid…. thanks n This is Gonna b so Informative🔥👍n Continued Blessings to All💜….

@DrDrayzday

Жыл бұрын

Morning!

@db-gb5xi

Жыл бұрын

Happy Wednesday Whitney Brown. Hope you are well and having a good day.

@whitneybrown4067

Жыл бұрын

Greetings d b hope u r well n Happy Wednesday😀👍💜….

@jackiemarsh2470

Жыл бұрын

Happy Wednesday my Friend!! Have a Wonderful Day and Evening!! Many Blessings Always!!🙏🪻🥰💜💜💜💜

@whitneybrown4067

Жыл бұрын

Greetings Jackie Marsh hope u r well n Happy Wednesday😀👍💜….

Thank you for your good advise

Great research!

Hate ruins more even more faces...

@johndoe9362

Жыл бұрын

Huh?