F150 & Expedition 6R80 Torque Converter Shutter

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6R80 Torque converter shutter has become more and more common on the F150’s and expedition’s.
In this video you will find the Information about why this problem occurs, how to fix it, and the cost involved.
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  • @johnewen1911
    @johnewen1911 Жыл бұрын

    My 2013 f150 ecoboost had this shutter. After watching this video I contacted my local transmission shop and told him my symptoms and I said I think I need a torque converter. Long story short they drove it and ended up just changing my transmission fluid and filter. I have around 160k and had never changed it. It immediately fixed the problem. The shop says that about 90% of the time this has fixed the shutter problem. Shout out to Powertrain Specialties in Gonzales Louisiana for being so honest and not selling me a huge job that was unnecessary.

  • @elijahflint2101

    @elijahflint2101

    Жыл бұрын

    thank you!

  • @joedeertae4126

    @joedeertae4126

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, fluid & filter fixed issue for ~$500 on my 07 F150 173k miles.

  • @enriquewilliamsteeny

    @enriquewilliamsteeny

    6 ай бұрын

    This only last temporary though right?

  • @uglybuck

    @uglybuck

    5 ай бұрын

    Is this relevant to the 10 speeds as well?

  • @James-wd2uu

    @James-wd2uu

    4 ай бұрын

    Alot of this is the non serviceable yoke check videos I have.a raptor amd it's from creeping to 4 mph replace the tqc and yoke with a greasable one and your good

  • @Loganrodgers22
    @Loganrodgers222 жыл бұрын

    Wish there were more Honest Mechanics like yourself out here !! It’s so hard to find a great mechanic that’s not trying to take you for all you’re worth. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @eliquegracia3343
    @eliquegracia3343 Жыл бұрын

    Man, thanks that’s exactly what was wrong with my transmission at 140,000 miles they started getting the road strip vibration I really took care of my transmission. I don’t feel bad anymore now that I know it’s a common problem. Thanks bro!!

  • @michaelstewart9486
    @michaelstewart9486 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Your description of the rumble strips is exactly what I told the dealer. I am replacing the torque converter in my 2016 F150 with the 5.0 V8 today. Little more than the cost you stated but I trust the dealership. Thank you, this is great. I hope to drive this truck at least 10 years total.

  • @2turnt259

    @2turnt259

    Жыл бұрын

    Did that fix it?

  • @zacharyjurecek178
    @zacharyjurecek1784 ай бұрын

    Literally yes. You nailed it. I dealt with it for like 1 year until I figured out what was happening. Crazy

  • @JoeCaldwell
    @JoeCaldwell Жыл бұрын

    Cheers dude.. that was a great video.. Had my truck at Ford today for a diagnosis.. they couldnt figure it out, but you nailed exactly my symptoms . Thx!

  • @harleyv1969
    @harleyv19692 жыл бұрын

    You perfectly explained my situation. Thank you for your information.. Basically everything I needed to know in 11 minutes

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @Dozygames
    @Dozygames6 ай бұрын

    thank you for this video.This was exactly what my truck was doing. i had to rebuild the torque converter and some of the transmission at 120k it started at 118k miles on my 2015 f150.

  • @J_Coyote
    @J_Coyote2 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who can give me an explanation to what I was feeling on my truck. Super helpful and informative man! Subscribed!! Couldn’t find anything anywhere! Thank you for this, and keep up the good work!

  • @TradingDecoded
    @TradingDecoded2 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, just wanted to thank you for your honesty. I am dropping my truck off today to have this work done at 117k miles. Im under warranty until 125k. 2015 F150. Bottom line is, you sir are a good man. I thank you for your honesty and willingness to not scam folks. Good honest mechanics are extremely hard to find brother. Keep it up.

  • @Patrick-ik1bi

    @Patrick-ik1bi

    Жыл бұрын

    Did your warranty cover the replacement?

  • @TradingDecoded

    @TradingDecoded

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Patrick-ik1bi nope. I was under the milage limit but missed the warranty date by 3 days by the time I could get into have it fixed. Cost me $3000 to get it done. :(

  • @ImHereForPearlJamVid
    @ImHereForPearlJamVid Жыл бұрын

    my 2016 F160 is at the dealer right now having this replaced. the way you described the issue (rumble strip) is exactly what's been happening. you nailed the symptoms. Cost of job (GULP), just over $2,500. happened at 105,000 miles.

  • @MrLofswold

    @MrLofswold

    8 ай бұрын

    Did it fix it?

  • @ImHereForPearlJamVid

    @ImHereForPearlJamVid

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MrLofswold Yes, have since put 20k miles on it, running like a clock.

  • @realreggie69
    @realreggie694 күн бұрын

    Your the only one that described my issue spot on! My truck is making the sounds just line its running over the the warning ridges on the side or in the middle of the rd. Ive done all the idiot proof things and couldn't figure it out. I called a AAMco we've come to trust and the woman told me that's most likely what it was. Welp I have no way of testing it out so I needed to do some homework. Sounds like the both of you are right. Ford had my truck for 3 weeks and still couldn't get to it. Ugh! When I got the truck it had so.e issues but nothing I couldn't fix. The biggest thing is it's gonna hurt my bank account. But thank you for posting this video, no matter if it was a couple yrs old it still help me Tremendously. Keep up the good and honest work! Much love from the great state of Georgia! 🍑🥜🍉❤❤❤❤

  • @GusMahn
    @GusMahn Жыл бұрын

    Lubegard Shudder stop in 130,000 mile old fluid stopped my '15 2.7 F150 shudder for 10,000 miles. At 140,000 miles the shudder came back. Drained the fluid (brown), changed the filter (pan and magnets were very clean), and filled it with Valvoline Maxlife. Driving fine again, and I think the 5-4 downshift is better than it was. If shudder comes back soon, I'm going to try additives, probably a lubegard product, along with a 3 gallon flush through a cooler line.

  • @mattbriley5864
    @mattbriley5864 Жыл бұрын

    Man this makes me wish ford would come back with e40d or make the torque converter serviceable, I'm glad you described the truck bounce perfectly.

  • @chrisschultz6541
    @chrisschultz65412 жыл бұрын

    Have this in a '17 f150. Best way I can describe it. It's like having 2 12" subs in the backseat hit bass. It's short and intermittent.

  • @bigl2thad2005
    @bigl2thad20058 ай бұрын

    Thank You for the video, just had these symptoms at 134k. Getting Filter and fluid changed tomorrow and hoping for the best.

  • @kevinmorris9712

    @kevinmorris9712

    5 ай бұрын

    How'd it go?

  • @Mineratron
    @Mineratron Жыл бұрын

    Spot on, thanks for sharing. Appreciate the honesty, it’s in short supply these days.

  • @ryanjamison7043
    @ryanjamison7043 Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are awesome, and really helpful for even me as a machanic my self , but I will say we have fixed multiple 6r80 converter shutters over the years with servicing the transmission with Chrysler fluid, its slicker and seems to do the trick and we haven't had any come back with it back to shuddering, we also like to use an anti shudder additive for extra protection, this has also worked for many other models, with the exptoin of wetal or clutch lining in the fluid or pan.

  • @GusMahn

    @GusMahn

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking about putting Mobil1 HP LV Blue label (GM 8 speed shudder fix) in my '15 F150. I even bought it. I put Lubegard Shudder stop in my 130,000 mile fluid and it stopped the shudder for 10,000 miles. It's back at 140,000 miles, so I did a filter, pan with a drain, and filled with Valvoline Maxlife ATF. The fluid was brown, but almost nothing in the pan or on the magnets. If the shudder comes back, I flush about 3 gallons through cooler line, and add lubegard's recommended additive. I think it's called Platinum.

  • @danherrala2087

    @danherrala2087

    9 ай бұрын

    @@GusMahn p

  • @ThuggBoi69
    @ThuggBoi6911 ай бұрын

    Awesome video my guy your videos have improved greatly over time keep up the awesome job

  • @theinternets7516
    @theinternets7516 Жыл бұрын

    I suspected it was the torque converter. You confirmed that. Thanks for your help.

  • @troy9947
    @troy994711 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video, and it made me certain that thats what going on in my moms truck. Its a 2017 f150, started around 45,000 and currently had 50,000 miles. The truck isn’t driven hard and she never tows with it

  • @RustyShakleford1

    @RustyShakleford1

    2 ай бұрын

    Thays the problem light driving wears the clutch packs and mkre debris ends up in tbe oil. Harder accelartion to lock up trabs clutches lasts themclonger and better fuel milage obviously bot punching it

  • @Lilljoescratch
    @Lilljoescratch5 ай бұрын

    You hit the good points in these videos. I dig the channel thanks 🤘

  • @juliobuendia-bm3yz
    @juliobuendia-bm3yz3 ай бұрын

    Useful info thanks mine still has warranty so hopefully it covers

  • @Smiffs62
    @Smiffs622 жыл бұрын

    Definitely the video I needed! Thank you for the honest and well explained video. Totally nailed the noise. I’ve been saying it feels like rumble strip vibrations lol 😂. My 2015 F-150 has 85000 miles. Off to the shop 🤦‍♂️

  • @JoshSmith-wo7zw
    @JoshSmith-wo7zw Жыл бұрын

    Another thing that should help is doing a transmission service at 30 000 and 60 000 miles so that way you help get alot of the small metal filings from the transmission breaking in out of there. If they're allowed to acumulate too much. They'll actually start shorting out your shift solenoids intermittently. Thats another potential issue with these transmissions if you don't do those first 2 services. It wouldn't surprise me if it screws up your torque converter too. Just on a side note thats something else I've learned about these particular transmissions.

  • @justinwasil11
    @justinwasil113 жыл бұрын

    Very honest and to the point.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @robertdore856
    @robertdore8562 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the information, I think you just saved me about $6000

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear!

  • @philipporter6705
    @philipporter67053 жыл бұрын

    Mason, Glad I found your channel. I have a 15 transit 350 with 3.7. 6r80. I have been having this vibration sound for a long time, I would describe it like a low bass sound, from big sound system. It comes and goes at any speed above prob 40mph. It will sometimes happen every few seconds and it last for a second or 2. We now have 135k and it started 50k or so ago. I have taken it to several shops and they all say it’s tires or shocks or something and never fixed the problem. Last week I was headed up in elevation on a road trip, no trailer. And I was noticing the rpm would bounce +\- 200, when the sound happens. Then, the sound went away. Approx 50miles later I noticed fluid getting on my rear Windows. I kept driving and made it the next 100 miles to our destination. During the last 100 miles, it didn’t ever shift down when pulling hills, it stayed in 6. Even if I manually tried selecting another gear, it wouldn’t allow me to change. After getting into town, I shut it off and when restarted tried, it shifts hard to reverse and drive. It operated fine in R. But feels like I’m still starting in a higher gear. We trailered it back to our town. Where I now have it and am ready to work on it. What are your thoughts? I purchased: lead frame, case of fluid, filter, and it was all here by the time we got home. Now I’m thinking torque converter too. Or am I too far into it and should just bite bullet and order a trans? Where would the fluid have come from? It looks wet on bottom of bell housing…

  • @philipporter6705

    @philipporter6705

    3 жыл бұрын

    I forgot to mention. When I pulled codes I got P0715, p0706, p0707, p0712

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d put a lead frame in it and check it. The vibration may not be related to it sticking in 6th gear. It may need a converter later on but from what your describing it sounds like a lead frame to me. Before you put it in I would check with your dealer because there is actually a recall on some of them extending the warranty out to 150K. Those lead frames are notorious for going out and making one stick in a higher gear. You also should be able to tell when you drop the pan if the converter is going out because it’s gonna be covered in thick clutch material. Not just black, it should be full of debris if the converter has issues. Hope that helps you some.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    I also missed that it was a transit. I don’t think those had that recall.

  • @philipporter6705

    @philipporter6705

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyingWrenches13 mason, thank you for the reply. I will keep you posted on what I find. I am just getting back in this project after being out of town for a couple weeks. Phil

  • @Logan-te3iq

    @Logan-te3iq

    Жыл бұрын

    Mine does this in 6th too like will go up in RPM a little when cruising at like 40 MPH and I have a exhaust so you can definitely hear it it’s always done this tho and if I give sit gas and go up to 50 mph it will go away

  • @bigeasy2187
    @bigeasy2187 Жыл бұрын

    instant shudder fix fixed mine for over a year, added another tube of it and no mure shudder for over another year now.

  • @DaFrostyG
    @DaFrostyG3 жыл бұрын

    Had a few that have came in for these exact concerns, seems to happen more after the leadframe replacement. The last 3 I’ve done have came after another shop All shuttering, becoming so much more common in all ford vehicles.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    For sure. The 6f35s are bad about it too. Seems like they all do it at some point

  • @karlschauff7989

    @karlschauff7989

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ford runs these transmissions too hot and use the torque converter clutch a lot more aggressively than in the past for fuel economy reasons. It's the reason GM has had torque converter issues too (running too hot and locking up in nearly every gear).

  • @Marc-dr6mw
    @Marc-dr6mw2 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up man. Been having this issue for a couple weeks and thought it was my spark plugs again! Just fyi my truck had 160k when this started

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad to hear you got it figured out.

  • @jeffreyfedak5770
    @jeffreyfedak57706 ай бұрын

    You are awesome. Videos are great. Thank you.

  • @clintonfanning1470
    @clintonfanning147011 ай бұрын

    Got a new subscriber here. The rumble strip description fits perfect. I've been trying to figure it out on my 15' expedition it just started at 157k. I keep throttling around trying to figure out if it's the turbos i just replaced or what but it makes sense since its only when its still in lockup on feather light throttling mainly going up hills. It's worse with cruise on so on the big hills I make it downshift thanks for your video I'll be sure to check out some others. One of my next ventures is replacing the vacuum pump.

  • @MatrixRC
    @MatrixRC Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Let me start saving

  • @crossedpaddles1184
    @crossedpaddles1184 Жыл бұрын

    Great information, answered all my questions. Thank you for being honest and STILL working for a dealership!

  • @martysheets6882
    @martysheets68822 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brother, I have this problem as we speak also surging, don't know if that's trans or torque converter.

  • @DonMichaelDiamond
    @DonMichaelDiamond2 жыл бұрын

    excellent information helped me out a lot

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @rickygarcia4559
    @rickygarcia4559 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome awesome! Thank you

  • @matthewbohn765
    @matthewbohn7652 жыл бұрын

    Man, I was really liking this video till you brought up price lol. Just picked up my 15 expedition from a 3rd party shop that obviously wanted to change the whole trans out, as you said. Thinking about doing a drain and fill and seeing how that works out. Thanks for the great info.

  • @kingjames8283
    @kingjames82832 жыл бұрын

    I recently purchased online, sight unseen from a very popular dealership a 2012 Ford F-150-XLT 121k miles, 3.7L with 6R80 trans. It finally arrived to my home two weeks after buying it. When I finally got around to taking it out for a first run, I immediately noticed an annoying rumbling and vibration in the seat. It came with passenger car tires so I took it to tire shop for four brand new truck tires. Still rumbles. Then I replaced the two-piece driveshaft assembly with carrier bearing. Still rumbles. I'm thinking now I have a rearend issue with pinion bearing/race or the ring gear. As truck came with an active Ford recall for speed sensor, I made an appointment with Ford dealer and informed them of the constant rumbling/vibration issues especially at highway speed. I have owned this truck almost two months now and haven't even put on the first 100-miles, dropped truck off at Ford dealer. After third day in shop, they called me and informed me the rearend is okay but they have to replace the transmission which is under a 60-month/60,000 mile warranty. I don't know anything more than that but should have truck back with new tranny some time next week. Except for maybe the torque converter, I don't know what else inside the transmission could've caused these symptoms and issues but FMC is taking care of it.

  • @EricBaltik
    @EricBaltik3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this video. God bless..

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @alb12345672
    @alb123456722 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 6.2L 11 F150. Has some shudder ONLY when cold, when climbing grades in 5 or 6. Above 180 deg trans temp, I can drive the same mountain roads and no shudder. Shifting is otherwise pretty good. I also noticed some fluid sweating by the rear pan bolts (not the connector gasket). Guess I should be checking the fluid level?

  • @southernsaintmusic
    @southernsaintmusic Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2009 F150 with 5.4 and 312K miles on the original motor and transmission. Today it started vibrating (similar to a misfire, but with no check engine light) upon light acceleration at highway speeds (around 70mph/2100 RPM). It sounds like this might be exactly what I'm experiencing. It also tends to happen at the bottom of a slight incline in the road.

  • @hollywoodsse
    @hollywoodsse2 жыл бұрын

    Great information! 👍 you're my boy blue!

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @chriserwin6547
    @chriserwin6547 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Stl515273
    @Stl515273 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure this is my problem in my 2016 F150 with 140K miles. I have been chasing a misfire but believe this is it. Hope it is covered under extended warranty.

  • @davidbrown7612
    @davidbrown76123 жыл бұрын

    This video is incredibly helpful. Our 2015 Ford Transit with 95,000 miles has a really bad torque converter shudder. They Magic City Ford in Lexington quoted us $7,200 to replace the torque converter. Should I get other estimates or should I do it myself. For less than $5000, I can put a two-post lift in my garage, purchase a transmission jack and the torque converter and do the job myself. About how heavy is the 6R80 transmission?

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    So the transit is a whole different animal. If you have a rwd transit the subframe has to come out. The subframe cage nuts are notorious for spinning and if they do you got big problems. They are actually encased in the body, you can’t get to them without cutting a hole in the body. If your very mechanically inclined i would try it but don’t think it’s going to be as easy as a normal truck. I usually charge about 12 hours labor just to pull and put on a transit. If you have a fwd transit with a 6f35 they are a cake walk if you’ve removed fwd transmissions before. The 6r80 isnt any heavier than any of the old aod’s, 700r’s, or 4l60’s.

  • @willbrack7069
    @willbrack7069 Жыл бұрын

    Ughhhhh, mine started doing this about 2 months ago, didn’t become a huge problem until recently. I’m going to see if I can try the temporary fix, just to see if that is actually the cause, if it is, i’ll see if i can get it done locally.

  • @WilliamJSims
    @WilliamJSims2 жыл бұрын

    Seem to have this in my '14 Lincoln Navigator also

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah should be a 6R80 in yours just like the expeditions.

  • @blackbird8192
    @blackbird819210 ай бұрын

    I've got a 2017 F-150 and you exactly described the symptoms it's having right now. I took it to a local dealership and they said the entire transmission needed replaced... and it would cost $8500!!! After watching this I'm thinking it might be a good idea to take it to a different dealership.

  • @Foxbody302

    @Foxbody302

    10 ай бұрын

    I hope I’m not too late. But have you tried the lubeguard shutter fixx? I thought my torque converter went bad but when I put the shudder fix in the tranny, it doesn’t shudder anymore. All I need to do now is change the fluid.

  • @blackbird8192

    @blackbird8192

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Foxbody302 i did actually and ya it helped, got rid of the shudder. Still getting a whirring or slight grinding sound tho, gona take it to a local transmission place on thursday to take a closer look at it. They suggested it may just need the fluid changed as well. The fluid definitely looked like it was in need of changing when i added the shudder fixx. Funny part is i had the aforementioned dealership change the fluid less than 20k miles ago, i guess they just didn't.

  • @buddyharshaw9140
    @buddyharshaw91402 жыл бұрын

    Hi awesome video just found ur channel.I just bought a 01 f150 lariat 5.4 I’m new to ford but when I put it in reverse I hear a like pop and really at any speed when I let of the accelerator there’s a bad vibration till I’m steady bk on the gas.have u ever seen this ?Im new to ford but the truck was single owner it shifts really smooth as well

  • @colereid7815
    @colereid7815 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Went to a trans shop and they were insisting that I need a trans rebuild

  • @BoucherYe
    @BoucherYe26 күн бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @mentalimbalance6808
    @mentalimbalance68083 жыл бұрын

    Just subd. Good information on that converter. My owners manual says to begin transmission fluid changes at 150k. Doesn’t sound right to me. Its a 16 f-150.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is actually where Ford recommends changing transmission fluid on most of there vehicles now. It wouldn’t hurt to start at 100k though if you wanted too.

  • @mentalimbalance6808

    @mentalimbalance6808

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyingWrenches13 Thank you, sir.

  • @stevewilliams6354
    @stevewilliams6354 Жыл бұрын

    Why buy a ford converter when we already know they don’t last I would prefer after market great video thanks

  • @Auto209
    @Auto209 Жыл бұрын

    Any info on older fords? Just started driving a 2001 f150 I bought a while ago and it feels like misfiring. PID doesn’t show any misfire counts and there was a misfire code on cylinder 1 that I had fixed. Not sure if misfire is gone but PIDS don’t show any counts. Still feels like it’s missing even at idle. Thanks for video I’ll probably just replace it myself soon since I can do it for cheap myself

  • @alb12345672
    @alb123456723 жыл бұрын

    Ford used to recommend a full flush for the 4R70W when there was shutter. Then maybe dr tranny shudder fix. Wouldn't it be worth trying that first? Sometimes the modifiers get depleted. This is often caused by overheated fluid. Best to add an additional cooler. These trans have thermostats, you can't overcool the fluid.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    The problem with the additive is it won’t last.

  • @texasroofer8650

    @texasroofer8650

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyingWrenches13 I was watching another channel and he was showing the thermal valve in the trans for the cooler. Said if trans isn't up to temp fluid just circulates thru cooler lines and not trans. What are your thoughts?

  • @smtshrek3674
    @smtshrek36743 жыл бұрын

    Good video! While I agree most transmissions don’t need to be overhauled, some torque converters fall apart and spread fine metal throughout the trans. At a minimum it should be recommended to disassemble and inspect the main control. The 6f35 is the worst and needs an overhaul once the converter fails and pushes that gray sludge every where. I’ve done way more 6f35s than 6r80s, you should do a video on that one.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. I’ve done a ton of 6f35’s too. Always overhaul those things no matter what lol if not they will be back. I’m gonna do one here pretty soon. I have one to tear down here in the next week so maybe I’ll get to record some of that.

  • @pablomachucachavez1014

    @pablomachucachavez1014

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi!!! I have a escape with this trans 6f35 and now when accelerating like overtake its shutter..could be just the converter? Or i need to repair the trans to?? Here en my country is like expensive and poor of parts😢

  • @screamneagle8420

    @screamneagle8420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pablomachucachavez1014 My girlfriend has a Ford Escape. It was shuddering when it shifted. I told her to have the transmission flushed. She did and it fixed the problem. It’s been about nine months and it hasn’t returned. Relatively cheap fix. My F150 on the other hand has the same issue. I had it flushed however it did not fix the problem. I’m beginning to think it’s the torque converter.

  • @localyokel1000
    @localyokel10004 ай бұрын

    My 2016 F-150 did this. Bought it from original owner at 123K. He pulled some with it. Took it to trans shop, they put a tube of shudderfix in it $12. Problem instantly went away. However they said it was a temporary solution. Fluid was pretty cooked. They suggested flushing fluid, replace with new as well as filter. Cant get all the old fliud out as a lot of it is in converter and valve body. So they recommended changing fluid and filter again to dilute the bad fluid. I did this myself after 10K, have put another 5K or so on it. Seems to have cured it. However it does sometimes stall when idling in gear. I dont know if that's separate issue or not.

  • @rickytac1
    @rickytac1 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video, it answered a lot of my questions. However, the issue with my 2012 Ford F-150 was hard shifting, speedometer going to zero, and a 720 Engine Code. Transmission place said TC needs to be replaced, along with a transmission overhaul to clean out all the metal debris. Does this sound about right to you? I'm assuming metal debris was getting in-between the lead frame and solenoids causing the error code and thus the hard shifting. Do you agree?

  • @Thepilotdad
    @Thepilotdad2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, awesome channel. My 2018 F-150 5.0 is making a ratcheting noise when you let off the gas between 1200-1800 RPMs, way more noticeable when the engine is cold. The dealer where I’m at seems to be confused, they’re replacing the torque converter, I don’t think that’s a good fix. I’ve seen several other post about this issue with no solution, any ideas? Thank you

  • @elvism684
    @elvism6842 жыл бұрын

    I have a question regarding this issue. I don’t have torque shudder but I was wondering if you have experience using shift kits/drop in valves? I have seen them say they help/reduce torque converter issues. I was thinking of adding one when I change my fluid and filter.

  • @badillo50
    @badillo502 жыл бұрын

    YEEEESSSS!!!! That same thing happened to my 2018 f150 3.5 eco and that happened at 65k mile I bought it with 37k miles a year 1/2 ago I’m the second owner . The Ford dealership had to overhaul the whole thing total cost around 4,500 parts and labor .. I gues I got my money’s worth buying that extended warranty 👍👍..now it ride like a NEW truck, and way torquier BUT is this something to worry about or sale it while the market is hot.?

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would hold on to it. Market is going to be hot for a while.

  • @Rastameister
    @Rastameister3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty good explanation but what exactly is it inside the torque converter that causes the shutter? Is it a lockup clutch chattering?

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it is. The torque converter clutch or lockup clutch is what causes the shutter.

  • @robot_hitcher
    @robot_hitcher Жыл бұрын

    Alright, as a fellow ford trans tech, I ALWAYS take a fluid sample first and check for metal debris or excessive clutch material. If there’s an indication of possible debris, I quote removing the pan to look for ferrous metal or other material debris. With that sample or evidence, I then either continue on with the normal converter replacement and the heated cooler flush machine procedure OR quote a unit due to the warranty they get with it or overhaul if units are on backorder or too far out if there is excessive metal contamination. Only if the person had been driving for a long amount of time with the issue have I seen true metal contamination due the problem compounding on an underlying concern. 6f35s in the Explorer 2.3s - Remember those? Converters would completely infect the entire transmission leading to an instructed replacement of the main control assembly, converter, and complete overhaul to clean out any contaminants and replace any affected parts. Do not for a minute believe every transmission in need of a converter is immune to this possibility. Always get a fluid sample, quote dropping the pan to be sure if the fluid is burnt or highly contaminated, and always flush the cooler.

  • @chrisshields2232
    @chrisshields22322 жыл бұрын

    2015 expedition. Used shutter fix 3 months ago and the shudder went away. Had the trans serviced along with an oil change last Friday(fluid and filter) and now I have a whining noise. I took a video of the noise, not sure how I can share it with you. Local Ford dealers are scheduling over a month out and trying to avoid any more damage by driving it. Looking for a 2nd opinion.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mdunsford90@gmail.com or send it on Facebook. Link in description

  • @brewersblade4887
    @brewersblade48872 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure just like many others you describe my situation as well. My question is does this condition worsen if you don’t do anything with it? Will the torque converter eventually just give out and fail?

  • @amateurstacker33

    @amateurstacker33

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mine in gradually getting worse. Hasnt failed yet

  • @jeffdavis5704
    @jeffdavis57048 ай бұрын

    Would you also recommend flushing the transmission cooler?

  • @michaelbolton2741
    @michaelbolton274110 ай бұрын

    Quick question: Is a slight rise in engine RPM during this shudder indicative of it happening in/being the torque converter? This is what I've noticed on my 2010 F150's 6R80.

  • @donaldspeck9212
    @donaldspeck92122 жыл бұрын

    Flying Wrenches, Would you care to go in depth what actually is breaking/tearing up in the torque converter? ie: pump,, stator, just wondering what is actually Failing. Thank you

  • @dylancappelle18
    @dylancappelle18 Жыл бұрын

    What’s best upgrade to prevent from happening again?

  • @bengrissom5713
    @bengrissom5713 Жыл бұрын

    do you recommend the fluid flush on these 6r80s? or is the drain and fill method plenty?

  • @caseycharity
    @caseycharity Жыл бұрын

    Would I feel it while I’m stopped at a light? That’s when I seem to feel what you’re describing the most.

  • @stacycummings3325
    @stacycummings33252 жыл бұрын

    My friend has a 10' F150 with this issue. Truck has 250k on it and transmission shifts perfectly. Would you recommend a rebuild or just a tc replacement? Keeping truck most likely.

  • @toe7510
    @toe75102 жыл бұрын

    I have an 18’ F150 with 5.0 what would you think a vibration in the foot pedal that seems to change when gear changes but after about 30mins of driving nearly goes away or at least is way less of a vibration.

  • @mrcraneoperator870
    @mrcraneoperator8702 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a 2015 f150 xl with the 3.5 v6. Sub'd to the channel.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MrMv45
    @MrMv452 жыл бұрын

    Mayson, you are the man! I have a 2016 F150 5.0 that has hit 205,000 miles. I had my transmission checked out by 3 different companies (1 was a Ford dealer). My converter has been shuddering for over a month now. I am going with the one that has quoted a price close to your suggestion of cost. Does the torque converter only effect the 4 wheel drive trucks?

  • @Angelo2005white

    @Angelo2005white

    2 жыл бұрын

    2wd drive also mine did that

  • @abramrabinowitz252
    @abramrabinowitz2523 жыл бұрын

    Hello - great vid. Thanks. I am in talks with a mechanic who quoted me $1650 to put in a new torque converter and rebuild the transmission. This seems low, as Ford quoted me $3000. After Ford put in a new rear seal (for $1500), the shuddering/kicking/bucking, etc was still happening. Ford finally let me drive around a technician and the technician said definitively that it's the torque converter. Just wondering where to go to figure this all out. I feel a little suspicious paying $1650 for something that is usually twice as much. Just need some peace of mind, I guess. Thanks, Abe

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no way that someone is pulling your trans, replacing the TC, and over hauling it for $1650. The Torque converter alone cost close to $1000. All the other clutches, steels, seals, one time use pistons, and fluid would probably cost the remainder. I wouldn’t trust that price at all. Also, not really any need to overhaul. Just flush the trans, new filter, new TC, and new fluid. You should be good to go after that.

  • @Rightwaypowerwash
    @Rightwaypowerwash9 ай бұрын

    Great video nailed it im having this happen while in 5th under light throttle byt not enough for to downshift under load i guess you can say ... im at 215k. Miles do you think it would be ok to replace TC along with with filter and fluid or will this cause more harm then good ?

  • @TylerHankss
    @TylerHankss Жыл бұрын

    Is it something that has to be replaced quick mason? As in when it starts shuddering should you get it replaced immediately? Or is it just an annoying noise

  • @JCal1968
    @JCal19688 ай бұрын

    I've been having a similar problem on my 2017 Ford Transit 150 cargo 3.7 flex fuel 6 SPD 6r80 with 300,000 mi but it didn't start out noticeable like a vibration. I drive about 250 mi a day 5 days a week. When I first started noticing a difference was after long weeks if I drove 1300 to 1500 mi in a week toward the end of the week and at the end of the day on friday it would feel just a little rough in shifting and a little vibration but I would park it for the weekend and the next week it would be just fine. If I had another busy week toward the end of the week it would feel a little rough. If my week was lighter I didn't notice it at all. This happened for 16,000 mi. As the weeks went on it got slightly a little worse and I mean slightly. It was still very hard to figure out what the problem was. I took it to two or three different transmission shops and the Ford dealership where I normally get service done and without testing, driving or looking at it they are all saying we're going to need to change the transmission just drive it until It's undrivable. Personally I like to be proactive and get something fixed that can be fixed before it fails completely I can't afford to be off the road. This was all during the summer and I assumed it's probably overheating a little. But now that fall is here and we're getting close to winter the nights are cold and when I go to the van in the morning and take off if I don't let it warm up for a few minutes there's a noticeable whirring sound until it gets a warmer. So I'm certain it's the torque converter now especially after listening to this video and others like it. At 300,000 mi is it worth replacing the torque converter? The transmission seems to be shifting just fine especially when I use the button to shift if I use the manual shifting setting. When it's in drive it seems to overheat if I drive more than 200 mi in a day for a week. I know that if I don't do something soon the torque converter can fail and pieces of metal can fall out into the transmission. I don't think we're there yet. Any advice? Oh and a side question I keep hearing these horror stories of transmission shops having a hard time taking off the crossbar support the frame bolts get stuck and they have to cut it out. Is that your experience as well being a Ford transmission serviceman?

  • @christianramirez6719
    @christianramirez67193 жыл бұрын

    This videos its great how you explained, have the same concern I thought it was the bearing from the diff but never pass through mi mine it would be the Torque Converter. Does that a recall? For some trucks?

  • @giovannitaddei7260

    @giovannitaddei7260

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I can tell there is not one. I just had the same issue in addition to transmission sqwak. Seems to be no recall out there.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately there isn’t any recalls out for this problem.

  • @dannylolz4
    @dannylolz42 ай бұрын

    Mine does it (shudders) mostly when I’m driving like a grandpa. Also sometimes makes a noise similar to loose torque converter bolts on a turbo 350( don’t ask me how I know..) or kinda like a valve rattle under light load

  • @guadalupegarcia7459
    @guadalupegarcia745918 күн бұрын

    Had this problem on work truck at 353k miles. 2016 f150 3.5L

  • @mods3472
    @mods3472 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2015 F150 3.5L eco boost …. I have the exact shutter you are talking about but before I felt that I had a like thump/jerk when accelerating over 3500 rpms then go away…. Do you think that would be related?? Thanks

  • @Dsmwarrior1996
    @Dsmwarrior19964 ай бұрын

    What is a rough shift with squeal between 4-5 and once in a while between 3-4, downshifts just fine, but if I let off the gas it shifts perfectly fine from 4-5? Found out the trans fluid was as full as could be, drained the fluid down to proper level and put Lucas trans fluid conditioner, but haven't reset the KAM and it still does it, doesn't really seem like it has the rumble strip shudder tho, it's a 2011 F150 Ecoboost

  • @williameye7423
    @williameye74232 жыл бұрын

    I had my torque converter replaced at a Ford dealer less than 2000 miles ago, and it is doing the same thing again, what might be the issues now?

  • @seanevans6336
    @seanevans6336 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, but one key thing when you service your transmission do not drain the fluid and replace it with brand new fluid! You will for sure after doing that need a whole transmission overhaul! What you want to do is drain the old fluid, filter it and then put it back in the transmission with a new transmission filter. Once the old filtered fluid is back in the transmission then you add new fluid as needed to meet your proper fluid levels!

  • @re9473
    @re9473 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know if you change your gear ratio on your truck should you change install a torque converter with a different stall speed or does it affect your torque converter at all

  • @austinfinch1790
    @austinfinch17905 ай бұрын

    Could this also be the problem for my 06 f150. It only shudders in 1st and some in second. Shifts flawless the rest of the gears

  • @carlodonnell146
    @carlodonnell146 Жыл бұрын

    I learned some where that replacing only one part of the transmission can cause problems because the older parts may not be able to withstand the increased pressure of the newer parts; I suppose that could apply to replacing the torque converter/pump. If the seals in the transmission are worn out, the new pump may cause a failure that wouild not exist with the old worn out converter and pump? I don't know; maybe some else can comment on it!!!

  • @APRR890
    @APRR890 Жыл бұрын

    Can the shutter happen on deceleration too? Feeling it on acceleration and deceleration. Truck feels like it’s down shifting late slowing down and actually shaking you can see the truck shake like bad brakes would but does it without the brakes when coasting to stop. Also it’s way worse when the truck is hot from driving highway speeds for hour +

  • @jumpinggulley
    @jumpinggulley Жыл бұрын

    I have the vibration plus a swirling/chattering noise on slight acceleration. Is this common?

  • @intensepisgahbiker
    @intensepisgahbiker2 жыл бұрын

    My 2021 is in the shop now with this with only 7500 miles.

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t seen many 10 speeds have this issue.

  • @Worldfamoustrucker
    @Worldfamoustrucker Жыл бұрын

    What's the case if the torque converter was changed with within 3 months the shutter is back? shutter as well as the 5-3 squawk. truck was brought in for both issues. doesn't get driven hard, rarely a trailer. very frustrating to have $4k worth of work done for the issue to come up just a few months later

  • @jerrytimberlake9947
    @jerrytimberlake9947 Жыл бұрын

    2010 5.4 with 225k with the same issue. Curious if it's detrimental to just leave it alone and accelerate through it? Idk I don't mind dropping the 2k to fix it but is it more of an annoyance or should really address it??

  • @bigben4159
    @bigben4159 Жыл бұрын

    I'm replacing my torque converter but Wana replace the front pump seal Also do u have a tool link for that

  • @J_Coyote
    @J_Coyote2 жыл бұрын

    My 2016 5.0 has this issue. It has 139k miles. I never did the fluid flush before 100k miles on the transmission. Do you think it’s safe to swap the torque converter and change the fluid and filter? Or recommend a new transmission?

  • @revbikerbigd8664
    @revbikerbigd86642 жыл бұрын

    What about changing the black plastic wiring piece for the solenoids, I heard that's a problem too in these trans???

  • @FlyingWrenches13

    @FlyingWrenches13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes you are correct! They have a recall that extends the warranty out to 150k miles for that issue.

  • @larason_oficial
    @larason_oficial Жыл бұрын

    Sent you the link to a video that shows exactly what’s going on with my truck (2017 f150 5.0 2wd) do you know what the problem could be ? Thanks 🙏 in advance

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