F1 Push-Rod and Pull-Rod Suspension Explained

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Timestamps:
Intro: 0:00
Shared Elements: 0:31
Push-Rod & Pull-Rod Differences: 1:04
Pros & Cons: 1:36
Configuration: 2:06
Who Uses What: 2:52
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  • @maamiry_10
    @maamiry_104 ай бұрын

    The animations are amazing and a great video in general. Keep em coming

  • @Cloney1337
    @Cloney13374 ай бұрын

    One thing that should be mentioned: Under Breaking and acceleration the car front and back tend to move. With negative a (breaking), the back of the car will tend to move up, while the nose tends to move down. In the past Push Rods were used at the front, because they allowed this behaviour more then Pull Rods, and everybody loves a lower nose. Pull Rods on the other hand tend to allow an upwoards movement more, which was wanted at the back to get even more rake and thus the nose even lower. The ground effect cars dont like this behaviour, rising back and diving nose can seriously compromise the ground effect generating aero. Red Bulls config keeps them stable under breaking, allowing Max Verstappen to not only trust his car, doing his corner rotations with more confidence and trust at the end of the brake phase.

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 ай бұрын

    Note that one factor that makes the nose of the RB not go low is the "anti-dive" suspension designed by Newey. Which he basically changed the mounting points of the upper wish bone, placing them at different heights and use the torsion created by these to control how much the nose moves. Then the suspension does the rest.

  • @TheGamingHungary

    @TheGamingHungary

    4 ай бұрын

    @@The_Curious_Cat Important note is that all cars have some "anti-dive" (and also many other "antis", including "anti-lift" of the front and "anti-squat"on the rear on acceleration, etc.) AND this isn't designed by 1 person only, there is a whole engineering team behind all these decisions, probably hundreds of engineers.

  • @stephensegal5187

    @stephensegal5187

    4 ай бұрын

    The biggest importance on a ground effects aero car is in maintaining the relationship of the floor to the ground as close, consistent and stable as is possible. An example of this is where Hamilton secured 2nd place but was then disqualified because his floor ran too close to the ground upon inspection of the wear on the metal wear blocks. .... "But it worked so much better!" Even 1mm (40 thousandths) can make a HUGE difference

  • @snigdhoroy1510

    @snigdhoroy1510

    3 ай бұрын

    So, it comes down to driver choice as well.

  • @abastabul9115

    @abastabul9115

    3 ай бұрын

    What a breakthrough concept!!! This will bring about world peace!!!

  • @Rahullll
    @Rahullll4 ай бұрын

    Really cool video! The animations were great and it was put together concisely, so not to unnecessarily drag it out. I'm loving the new content. Many would have given up when the radio videos started to get blocked but the way you've steered the channel to what it is now is incredible!

  • @edwardthetruth8994
    @edwardthetruth89943 ай бұрын

    By far, the best illustration of F1 suspension set up! Thanks

  • @animalk1
    @animalk14 ай бұрын

    Clear. Precise and to the point. Great animations and graphics. Easy to understand. Great work!

  • @lup1up
    @lup1up4 ай бұрын

    I like that both major f1 adjacent channels are moving into more details videos with greater animation and narration. Great work and awesome for us fans!

  • @thistoob
    @thistoob3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for a succinct & easily consumable concept no one has been able to demonstrate to me prior.

  • @LPChipi
    @LPChipi4 ай бұрын

    Super clear! Looking forward to more of these. Awesome job

  • @Blind_Hawk
    @Blind_Hawk4 ай бұрын

    Finally! Never understood what the difference was and what they actually do. Thanks to that I understand it much better!

  • @laurensd.l.2717
    @laurensd.l.271727 күн бұрын

    Top notch animation and explanation. Please keep these coming, they're extremely helpfull to the community.

  • @randompalmtopgaming7541
    @randompalmtopgaming75413 ай бұрын

    Perfection. Couldn't have been presented better!

  • @LDTOK-zs8oz
    @LDTOK-zs8oz4 ай бұрын

    Thank you this is the information I have been looking for so glad I subscribed to your channel.😊

  • @ardavalilable
    @ardavalilable4 ай бұрын

    Great video, and awesome explanation! Very well done!

  • @WRXMAN-ms2mm
    @WRXMAN-ms2mm3 ай бұрын

    A picture or in this case a video is worth a thousand words. A dry subject made easy to understand.

  • @crazykittenvideos855
    @crazykittenvideos8553 ай бұрын

    Great video! Beautiful animation and presentation

  • @AyaxRo
    @AyaxRo3 ай бұрын

    Amazing video. Top notch quality

  • @superpoon16
    @superpoon163 ай бұрын

    thank you for really nice animation keep up the good work.

  • @altonbreunissen1243
    @altonbreunissen12434 ай бұрын

    Very well put together n explained thank u

  • @orangelion03
    @orangelion034 ай бұрын

    Excellent animation and explanation. IIRC, Gordon Murray introduced the first pull rod suspension on the front end of his BT-44 design for Brabham. Though in that car's case the front shocks were partly exposed, it wasnt an aerodynamic issue due to the front bodywork aerodynamics. It also allowed them to adjust the linkage and rockers to create one of the first rising-rate suspensions. At least one designer experimented with a mixed front end where one side had a pull rod and the other a push rod...might have been an oval specific car (late 80s early 90s...AAR, Coyote, Chaparral??).

  • @Max_Kleiber
    @Max_Kleiber3 ай бұрын

    This is so relaxing, not only did it educate me but also helped me get to sleep

  • @darudy
    @darudy4 ай бұрын

    Outstanding video! Can you make something about the anti squat and anti dive suspensions?

  • @F1Tragic
    @F1Tragic4 ай бұрын

    Great video and a great demonstration of both designs - thank you! Just one thing, the tethers are designed to prevent the wheels from falling off, not the tyres. My OCD is back in check. 😊

  • @sypex_gg
    @sypex_gg3 ай бұрын

    AMAZING ANIMATIONS

  • @nothngspermanent
    @nothngspermanent4 ай бұрын

    awesome job dude

  • @dkanev38
    @dkanev384 ай бұрын

    Great quality video 👍

  • @theruckinmaul1460
    @theruckinmaul14603 ай бұрын

    The animation is crazy good. If your team draw from scratch, it is a mighty effort altogether. I highly doubt the Redbull gave the drawing.

  • @nil_db
    @nil_db3 ай бұрын

    This is great.. more Tech stuff please

  • @TheUsmc0802
    @TheUsmc08023 ай бұрын

    Whats impressive is the complete different suspension set ups that the new car will need. Darring, but also shows the rescoirces that Redbull has at thejr disposal in order to over come the obstacle.

  • @bigjobbruce
    @bigjobbruce3 ай бұрын

    that was great, thank you

  • @simewood2040
    @simewood20403 ай бұрын

    That is possibly the best technical video I have ever seen on so many levels. Thank you. If you ever cover motorcycle suspension set up, I will be there. Sub 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @teddyroosevelt8870
    @teddyroosevelt88703 ай бұрын

    Sooooooooooooooooo, THAT'S how it works...! Thanks, that was very helpful!

  • @matheuslbmartins
    @matheuslbmartins3 ай бұрын

    Extreme High Quality Video.

  • @natureofnow
    @natureofnow4 ай бұрын

    Wow. So good. Thank you. 😊

  • @thatzigdude7303
    @thatzigdude73033 ай бұрын

    Animations are next level

  • @quadsis5569
    @quadsis55694 ай бұрын

    please do more of these i just subscribed

  • @swarooptanmay1
    @swarooptanmay13 ай бұрын

    really nice information

  • @abastabul9115
    @abastabul91153 ай бұрын

    The VO is perfect for a paranormal investigation channel.

  • @jastallion45
    @jastallion453 ай бұрын

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 good vid

  • @filippofabbri8825
    @filippofabbri88253 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video! Could you explain the anti-dive and anti-squat suspensions geometry.?

  • @agambajwa
    @agambajwa4 ай бұрын

    Amazing video, love the animations with proper and clear narration! Keep up the good work!! One suggestion, you can work on the timing and pauses in your narration. Between sections, it felt like (as a viewer) there wasn't enough pause for us to register the previous section.

  • @tobbsnobb1366
    @tobbsnobb13664 ай бұрын

    I think we will see more pull rods at the front this year as teams really want to grab just a smidge of better anti-dive capabilities. Mercedes tried to retrofit an RB appropach last year without building a new chassis which also meant that the front pushrod stayed for the season.

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    Anti dive comes from the angle of the lower and upper control arms relative to the horizontal, not the suspension rod type.

  • @dwaynemurphy8229
    @dwaynemurphy82293 ай бұрын

    Great video and explanation. I would like to know how the electric motor and the combustion engine work together. Where in the drive train does the electric motor go? E.g. Does it connect to the drive shaft or flywheel or neither?

  • @mrwhatever9025
    @mrwhatever90254 ай бұрын

    My guess is that Visa will run the RB suspension config this season and a few other teams will also run the Pull / Push suspension setup.

  • @bumpergoed
    @bumpergoed3 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @Real_ghostboi
    @Real_ghostboi4 ай бұрын

    Can you make a video on anti-squad and anti-dive in the suspension of F1 cars?

  • @MA-ys7sl
    @MA-ys7sl4 ай бұрын

    Can you make an animation to show how the air move under the car? I’m really curious about how it works, does it move like a vortex or straight.

  • @mooncrack37
    @mooncrack374 ай бұрын

    bruh this is animation what ive benn searching for quite a time.i would like to see more detailed animation of explaining stuff about f1 cars like this😅, but also i have been wondering for how exactly mechanism looks like are used in f1 cars steering that able to achieve anti-ackerman steering geometry. and for more: what the mechanism in mclaren speedtail's front wheel cover

  • @user-hs5fx6sh3b
    @user-hs5fx6sh3b4 ай бұрын

    cool! Can you explain other parts of the machine too?

  • @azrulmax4654
    @azrulmax46543 ай бұрын

    Rel Ball nice ✅

  • @ScreamRicky
    @ScreamRicky4 ай бұрын

    F1 off season I Un sub from everything that has to do with F1 ( even on twitter ), it’s annoying & so unnecessary. But we’re gearing back up again, you’ve gained a follower my friend. Nice video, short sweet & it gets to the point.

  • @thibaudandre7984
    @thibaudandre79843 ай бұрын

    Cool

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley3343 ай бұрын

    Rolling start Call SpaceX csx. Chrome and Black heat tiles. Color absorbstion pressures causes for heat tiles. Blowing the tires off occurs

  • @antoniohagopian213
    @antoniohagopian2134 ай бұрын

    Waiting for the pull pull configuration

  • @KayJblue
    @KayJblue3 ай бұрын

    Where are you getting these incredible 3d models

  • @aleccktrader1673
    @aleccktrader16734 ай бұрын

    Like !

  • @MattRod98
    @MattRod982 ай бұрын

    What happened to the team radios after every race? :(

  • @Thehowlingbrown
    @Thehowlingbrown3 ай бұрын

    Im gussing teams have tried both or did they have to choose ?

  • @shinya1215
    @shinya12154 ай бұрын

    Will there be any pull/pull configuration?

  • @akbolly6415
    @akbolly64154 ай бұрын

    What would be the disadvantage for pull-pull config?😬😬

  • @dougheizenrader2280
    @dougheizenrader22804 ай бұрын

    Another advantage of pull-rod suspensions is that because the pull-rod is acting in tension, the cross section of the pull-rod could be much smaller, and rigidity is less important (in theory a flexible cable would work just fine). With a push-rod suspension, the member is working in compression and must be bigger and beefier to prevent it from buckling or collapsing under load. Compared to a pull-rod, the push-rod by necessity is both bigger (less aerodynamic) and heavier than a pull-rod. Both qualities anathema to modern F1 car design.

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    They both have to work in tension and compression. Wheels move both up and down on cars. Just pull rods typically experience more tension than compression and vice versa for push. A pull rod couldn't be a cable as it would go loose after bumps and then snap in tension. You would get a peak load in that scenario

  • @frozenburrito9313
    @frozenburrito93133 ай бұрын

    Is redbull using front pull and rear push to make the car tip front-ward? This can increase oversteer hence suit Max's driving style

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    The suspension is so stiff with both push and pull rods that it is more of an aero choice than anything.

  • @everTriumph
    @everTriumphАй бұрын

    What about twist rod suspension?

  • @NoLoseJustLearn
    @NoLoseJustLearn2 ай бұрын

    Script sounds like ChatGPT

  • @alessandraF1-75
    @alessandraF1-754 ай бұрын

    Would you like to talk about vortices?

  • @storkpatrick
    @storkpatrick4 ай бұрын

    you sound like the guy from disaster breakdown

  • @BeeBeefy
    @BeeBeefy4 ай бұрын

    Its weird yet cool to see Redbull and Alpha not sharing their car setups. They could've just copy pasta

  • @mrwhatever9025

    @mrwhatever9025

    4 ай бұрын

    Will Be interesting to see if Visa switches to Pull / Push this season.

  • @Shea-austin

    @Shea-austin

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mrwhatever9025 They did!

  • @selyouj8815
    @selyouj88153 ай бұрын

    ليش ما جعلتم مدخنة المحرك في الامام تتجه للخلف تحت السيارة مثلا . هوء ساخن يبرد فيحدث فراغ تحت سيارة فتلتصق مع الارض .

  • @vitruviuszhang5057
    @vitruviuszhang50573 ай бұрын

    What is restricting teams using Front Pull Rod and Rear Pull Rod?

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    The locations where the rods connect to the car. At the back you have the gearbox, floor and diffuser so its harder to have a pull rod, but looks more streamline if you can fit it down lower. As mentioned in the video, pull rod at the front means the components are under they front if they need to make adjustments or swap parts it's a little more difficult. Its mostly an aero choice of where you want those rods as they cover them with carbon fibre winglets to direct the airflow as desired

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley3343 ай бұрын

    Pulls of names or 7 taught by G forces

  • @SuperShmuck
    @SuperShmuck3 ай бұрын

    i wonder why no one uses F: Pull R: Pull, yet double Push has been.

  • @8tonystark8
    @8tonystark83 ай бұрын

    I only know push/pull/legs configuration

  • @CeladonHairExtraordinaire
    @CeladonHairExtraordinaire4 ай бұрын

    I could be wrong but I was sure that F1 cars use heave springs and not coils?

  • @apt962

    @apt962

    3 ай бұрын

    They have several springs in all forms. The wishbones are not on bearings (rod ends or spherical bearings normally in other Motorsport) they use solid titanium flex joints to bond the wishbone to the chassis tub (adds a spring rate in all modes), torsion bars for the base springs (has an advance over coil spring as it’s a double acting spring, better for control), heave springs for pitch control (either as a coil or belvil washer spring), and torsion tube again in the roll bar spring (mainly for roll rate control), in the form of a T bar or U bar depending on the layout but I think they mostly run U bars at the front now for roll. I may be wrong I haven’t been in an F1 garage yet or seen any recent photos from this years cars.

  • @uncleelias

    @uncleelias

    Ай бұрын

    @@apt962 Yes, I think he used a compression shock absorber for simplicity's sake. He would then have to explain all of the different facets of the suspension beyond push vs pull rod otherwise.

  • @harryfeng4199
    @harryfeng41993 ай бұрын

    F1 suspension uses torsion bars, not springs

  • @Ritermann
    @Ritermann4 ай бұрын

    I still don't understand how it actually translates on the road. Where would it make a difference between the two, when it comes to real life racing?

  • @defnotatroll

    @defnotatroll

    3 ай бұрын

    the kind of people who can explain the on track differences are working for F1 teams and not youtube channels, haha

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    Its mainly aero and packaging the components with the other parts of the car such as the front wing to suspension arms to the side pods and floor and air flow to the back of the car passing over the rear suspension to all work together

  • @doomoondong_idn
    @doomoondong_idn4 ай бұрын

    Animation last part not accurate, the tyre spinning in real life are more stable, tyre in f1 is super stable

  • @darkstar223
    @darkstar2233 ай бұрын

    That explains why McLaren is nearly as good as Mercedes

  • @bwest6275
    @bwest62754 ай бұрын

    Or in other words: the difference between winning and losing 😂

  • @a_aus_pe
    @a_aus_pe3 ай бұрын

    Im not a engineer but the way you show how pullrods are working is false. There is no force really "pulling" on the dampers its ether mostly also pushing on the dampers but with a revised rocker alignment

  • @Lewythefly

    @Lewythefly

    3 ай бұрын

    When wheels move up relative to the car one arrangement pushes and the other pulls. It's literally why the call them push rods or pull rods

  • @uncleelias

    @uncleelias

    Ай бұрын

    They animation isn't of an actual F1 car. They use different torsion rod springs and the dampers are now also mechanical springs instead of air or hydraulic dampers they used in the past. If he used those then it would be difficult to explain in the simplest of terms. What we see as far as the effects between the push and pull rod assemblies is correct even if the spring damper assembly is not what is used.

  • @QwertyQwerty-so4kw
    @QwertyQwerty-so4kw2 ай бұрын

    Couldn't have made a poor quality video. Nothing is clear or understandable

  • @BilobateDrip

    @BilobateDrip

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe proofread yourself? You mean he couldn't have made a poorer quality video? I understood the video a lot more than your comment

  • @QwertyQwerty-so4kw

    @QwertyQwerty-so4kw

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BilobateDrip Le English not englishing. Wut to do 😟

  • @BilobateDrip

    @BilobateDrip

    2 ай бұрын

    @@QwertyQwerty-so4kw got take a moment to appreciate your name 😅

  • @QwertyQwerty-so4kw

    @QwertyQwerty-so4kw

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BilobateDrip that's the type of name you get when 12 year old is creating an account 🥲

  • @BilobateDrip

    @BilobateDrip

    2 ай бұрын

    @QwertyQwerty-so4kw I like it 🤷‍♂️. Mine is randomly generated, which may as well count for the same

  • @lammie001
    @lammie0013 ай бұрын

    Not great sorry

  • @EXQCmoi
    @EXQCmoi3 ай бұрын

    Yak! another horrible AI voice.

  • @nazariuss
    @nazariuss2 ай бұрын

    wow! that was really clear and amazing explanation. thx mate)

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