F1 24 Car Handling - Here's Why It Sucks

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The car handling on F1 24 has been massively overhauled, but not for the better...
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  • @AlexGillon
    @AlexGillon24 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching guys! If you enjoyed, I would very much appreciate a sub, I know you don't need to any more with the KZread algorithm, but it does really help me to have more subs still ❤ Plus that 100k play button has been teasing me for ages 😂

  • @Salah44-di2nk

    @Salah44-di2nk

    24 күн бұрын

    When are you going to stream it?

  • @CB21001

    @CB21001

    24 күн бұрын

    Thank you for being so honest, it can't be easy when EA help you with your content. For the first time since I started playing F1 games in 2013, I'm skipping this one at launch and waiting for the price to come down. Struggling to find a reason to pay £60 for a product which seems barely any better than F1 23. I'll look forward to your full review when it comes out.

  • @Daniele858585

    @Daniele858585

    24 күн бұрын

    Norris said the handling it's more realistic.

  • @CanaldoUltimate

    @CanaldoUltimate

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Daniele858585 lol!

  • @Daniele858585

    @Daniele858585

    23 күн бұрын

    @@CanaldoUltimate Its' true. I hate codem games, i never liked them, i always play acc in vr. But Norris said the handling it got better in this game, i think i will trust more an f1 diver than youtubers, sry :O

  • @finnbig
    @finnbig24 күн бұрын

    thanks for being so critical, i feel its needed so EA can make it better, sugar-coating it isnt going to help anything

  • @forsaken7161

    @forsaken7161

    24 күн бұрын

    i dont think they care at all, as long as the sales dont drop...

  • @TheHannes16

    @TheHannes16

    23 күн бұрын

    @@forsaken7161 they will though

  • @paulashwin247

    @paulashwin247

    23 күн бұрын

    Na this is EA, see Fifa, Madden etc.

  • @Fehnz

    @Fehnz

    23 күн бұрын

    So was charles leclerc just saying PR stuff when he said that F124 has become a step forward in realism ?

  • @Kalashnikoov

    @Kalashnikoov

    23 күн бұрын

    So the EA can do what? 😂😂😂

  • @mayday92
    @mayday9224 күн бұрын

    Everybody wave goodbye to the creator network early access next year

  • @P_rask
    @P_rask24 күн бұрын

    Super happy that these larger creators are truly being un-biased and being critical towards the money hungry Devs

  • @calebhernandez4233

    @calebhernandez4233

    24 күн бұрын

    I mean, it's only Alex, he others are still a bit scared to say it in their own videos

  • @justinburley8659

    @justinburley8659

    24 күн бұрын

    Handling has nothing to do with greed. They also gave us some much needed updates to career mode that we have been requesting. I think the devs are pushing towards incompetence and not greed

  • @ccramit

    @ccramit

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@justinburley8659 They stopped patching F1 23 before November last year, at least the important bugs anyway. I'd say it's both.

  • @JuicedOnKids

    @JuicedOnKids

    24 күн бұрын

    @@calebhernandez4233 Yh, most F1 creators are kinda bad when it comes to giving objective information before it's too late. I get that it's their job and they don't want to be blacklisted but you basically have to wait for early adopters to know if the game is actually good. Alex is pretty good because he gives more informational content than other creators.

  • @lewisrundle2173

    @lewisrundle2173

    24 күн бұрын

    devs aren't money hungry, they get paid a salary no matter how the game performs. It's the top stakeholders that drive revenue goals - however great product feeds revenue so idk what they were thinking. They have a job listing available for product manager so maybe someone competent can take that up.

  • @africanpenguin3104
    @africanpenguin310424 күн бұрын

    Bruh these 22,24 codemasters devs fucking suck at making good handling

  • @thebronzearchertba9442

    @thebronzearchertba9442

    24 күн бұрын

    It's those same Devs that made the best handling F1 game which was F1 2020

  • @africanpenguin3104

    @africanpenguin3104

    24 күн бұрын

    Yeah but recent form aka 22 shows they are washed (prolly fired the good ones)

  • @cdeppracing216

    @cdeppracing216

    24 күн бұрын

    @@africanpenguin3104 22 onward should feel different in handling due to the drastic car changes but it shouldn't feel as bad as it has. The beta test for 22 had really great handling but some how between that test and its release it was ruined and has been bad ever since.

  • @Ryan97NZ

    @Ryan97NZ

    24 күн бұрын

    The 22 game looks like the best thing ever made compared to this mess

  • @dbabu51

    @dbabu51

    24 күн бұрын

    @@cdeppracing21623 handling is great wym

  • @atomshrek
    @atomshrek24 күн бұрын

    3:52 Tiametmarduk just had to sneak that "Gillon in the mud" in there 🤣

  • @jeffstaples347

    @jeffstaples347

    24 күн бұрын

    When your work-wife barges in the room.

  • @Blackout201_
    @Blackout201_24 күн бұрын

    literally no rule changes between the real life 2023 and 2024 seasons and they managed to mess up the handling completely. It´s just like the changes from 2020s to 2021s handling: entirely unnecessary to make changes in the first place and then they just ended up making it worse for no reason at all. also how tf did they manage to make a handling design that feels like it was developed for game pads, result in game pads being so much slower than wheels?

  • @hwss43

    @hwss43

    24 күн бұрын

    The mid to late corner understeer is horrendous on pad so u have to lift so much longer compared to last year. I think you can avoid that on a wheel a bit better

  • @mickeymousesclubhouse8149

    @mickeymousesclubhouse8149

    24 күн бұрын

    It's just ea doing what they do best a screw up a good game

  • @vinnievinnie-sj5kr

    @vinnievinnie-sj5kr

    24 күн бұрын

    Well people were complaining about understeer😂😂😂

  • @sandordomonkos8351

    @sandordomonkos8351

    24 күн бұрын

    Beacuse the handling engineer Was quit ín summer

  • @aidan2545

    @aidan2545

    24 күн бұрын

    20 - 21 was not a bad change, 21 was the last time this game has been enjoyable. 21 - 22 is a better example.

  • @Vil716
    @Vil71620 күн бұрын

    "The wet tires are just completely useless" At least it simulates reality.

  • @isaiahlarsen4365
    @isaiahlarsen436524 күн бұрын

    3:53 Ben’s “Gillon in the mud.” at the end of his comment lmao

  • @xxlarrytfvwxx9531

    @xxlarrytfvwxx9531

    24 күн бұрын

    That's basically become his signature.

  • @mindsofeuropa2955
    @mindsofeuropa295524 күн бұрын

    F1 23 started out with nice handling physics, so the geniuses at EA thought "let's change it!"

  • @KarimBoctorAwad

    @KarimBoctorAwad

    22 күн бұрын

    i noticed in the video he said something abt dd wheel bases not getting proper feedback, so that may have something to do with it, but personally the f1 23 handling physics is only slightly less crap than 22. still complete crap though, definitely needed a change.

  • @joshgordonmusic1

    @joshgordonmusic1

    22 күн бұрын

    @@KarimBoctorAwad na 23 handlings the best we’ve seen yet. Much easier on controller, wasn’t as impossible to drive as 22 but still had the ability to spin round

  • @KarimBoctorAwad

    @KarimBoctorAwad

    22 күн бұрын

    @@joshgordonmusic1 to me it was much worse than any other racing title that i own. Maybe it was a bit easier to apply throttle thab f1 22, but i still get no feedback in my wheel from the road, suspensions or tyres. Just stiffness from high speed and curbs and thats it.

  • @joshgordonmusic1

    @joshgordonmusic1

    22 күн бұрын

    @@KarimBoctorAwad yeah that’s fair. I’d always heard people using a wheel say that f1 22 was the better one which is fair enough I guess but on controller it was undriveable. I guess 23 is generally the opposite

  • @callumt6764

    @callumt6764

    20 күн бұрын

    @@joshgordonmusic1 imo I think the 23 handling just felt flat with no character, on controller there is practically no dfificuilty

  • @samalexanders7280
    @samalexanders728024 күн бұрын

    we finally got the EA effect

  • @MasterofSpiders
    @MasterofSpiders24 күн бұрын

    5:18 "After he left, EA brought in most of the Project CARS handling team" lol. Yeah, that kill a game alright.

  • @RDGamer321

    @RDGamer321

    14 күн бұрын

    As a man who played PC2, Oh no.

  • @sauldula

    @sauldula

    8 күн бұрын

    Yep, instantly not interested now

  • @Roho22
    @Roho2224 күн бұрын

    As Lewis Hamilton said at Hockenheim in 2019, “how’s it gone this bad?” 😂😭😭

  • @Richy59
    @Richy5924 күн бұрын

    Being critical is required, but the ‘unapologetic’ attitude you mentioned sounds exactly like the attitude that Slightly Mad Studios always had with the pCars games. Very much a ‘we’re right and you are wrong’ stance they always took with their games, especially pCars 3. What a shame, F1 23 was a great step forward for the series in terms of handling.

  • @MickLMZR

    @MickLMZR

    23 күн бұрын

    Typical Project Cars Team L

  • @Carpythesharky
    @Carpythesharky24 күн бұрын

    No way they brought in Project Cars devs to do the handling... NOOOOOOOOOO!

  • @Hyper_Fish

    @Hyper_Fish

    24 күн бұрын

    Wait when did the previous handling dev leave?

  • @Carpythesharky

    @Carpythesharky

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Hyper_Fish Not sure on the exact timing, but Alex says in the beginning of the video that they left sometime last year.

  • @DarthRayvonGaming

    @DarthRayvonGaming

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Carpythesharkythey announced it just before the release of last year’s game

  • @flopre9213

    @flopre9213

    23 күн бұрын

    u hate to see it

  • @RL-

    @RL-

    19 күн бұрын

    "All the fun you could want with all of the sim you could want" - Ian Bell

  • @andyaim4764
    @andyaim476424 күн бұрын

    After 4 years I’m opting out the F1 series. I’ve moved to AC and the car handling is so much better and realistic.

  • @damiyoflapies8473

    @damiyoflapies8473

    24 күн бұрын

    What about 2020

  • @gotrush2709

    @gotrush2709

    24 күн бұрын

    @@damiyoflapies8473 that's why he said 4 years i believe since 2020 was the last pretty good one

  • @deathtrooper2048

    @deathtrooper2048

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@gotrush2709 The car is different from 4 years ago, the handling should be different.

  • @John-River

    @John-River

    24 күн бұрын

    Yep! Once I found IRacing it made it so hard to play F123 the same again.

  • @nexx_740

    @nexx_740

    24 күн бұрын

    bro then you completely missed out on all the good stuff. I opted out in 2019 already, because I already thought that one was shite compared to the previous ones. Don't think anything has changed ever since. Looks and drives the same

  • @A1exanderProduction15
    @A1exanderProduction1523 күн бұрын

    looks like a driving style like alonso in 2005/2006 is working now - in game

  • @coopersieb1391
    @coopersieb139124 күн бұрын

    I tried the beta, i drove on it for 10 minutes before getting off because the handling is terrible. Agree with Alex fully.

  • @MangaAnimeSekai
    @MangaAnimeSekai24 күн бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I wanted to buy F1 24 but after this I think I'll wait for updates, if they don't fix the handling model I will keep playing F1 23 and hope for a better game in 2025.

  • @void_snw
    @void_snw24 күн бұрын

    What's worrying me is that the handling characteristics resemble their rally titles... Massive front grip, endless lateral grip, tank slappers left and right, no weight transfer that matters

  • @mjk06

    @mjk06

    19 күн бұрын

    Tbh the patch 1.06 (I think) for WRC made the handling fantastic.....last patch broke that. The cars feels terrible again.

  • @MinatoNamikaze-ff9dj
    @MinatoNamikaze-ff9dj24 күн бұрын

    "this year the point is so sharp it is hard to drive" Verstappen: "Get good"

  • @SakibLH44
    @SakibLH4424 күн бұрын

    Thanks for not being a shill

  • @HallucinatingHedgehogs
    @HallucinatingHedgehogs24 күн бұрын

    @AlexGillon thanks for the video, quick question does the ffb actually communicate through the wheel what the car is doing? Do you feel the car rotating, wheel spin and tire slip, lockups etc. or does it feel numb and disconnected like f1 22? Thanks!

  • @paulsimon7771

    @paulsimon7771

    22 күн бұрын

    Feels like you are steering a boat

  • @BIKERGaming
    @BIKERGaming24 күн бұрын

    Great video Alex, just saved me a bit of money 😅👍🏻 Glad to see how honest you are about it

  • @bikerforever68
    @bikerforever6824 күн бұрын

    Thanks for being so honest,this is a pass for me

  • @tank6515

    @tank6515

    18 күн бұрын

    Yup same here. Pretty sure it’s gonna be a pass for majority of F1 Fans

  • @handerson4586
    @handerson458624 күн бұрын

    Been playing the rss 2023 cars on Asseto Corsa and it just makes you truly realise how dogshit the cars are in the Ea f1 games, problem is the ai is so bad on AC that its basically just hotlap sim. I dont get how a mod team can make such a superior car to a group of professionals who have been making these games for aslong as they have.

  • @tomhanke7703

    @tomhanke7703

    23 күн бұрын

    Modders are the better devs nothing changed with that was always so

  • @Rapide568
    @Rapide56824 күн бұрын

    Thanks for being so honest. Feeling like I dodged a bullet here by not pre-ordering.

  • @CertifiedSlamboy

    @CertifiedSlamboy

    18 күн бұрын

    I preordered and refunded cos of this

  • @frankforbes8534
    @frankforbes853423 күн бұрын

    From what I can see from the game play you're bang on in regards to the pointiness but if you can mitigate it via the wheel settings then its a good trade off for the suspension compression. I literally saw when you went neutral light floaty through parts of the corners. It was awesome

  • @BallisticTech
    @BallisticTech24 күн бұрын

    In terms of the question about aggressively taking curbs. Def did see quite a few cars flying over the chicane curbs this past week. There was a very cool shot of Lewis with all 4 wheels off the ground.

  • @Slimmeyy

    @Slimmeyy

    22 күн бұрын

    That's only at the Variante Alta, where cars go airborne all the time irl. It's all the other corners where real life doesn't touch the kerbs but F1 24 can just float over them.

  • @jedgamesguy
    @jedgamesguy24 күн бұрын

    Re: the new handling designer: I remember hating Project CARS' handling on both wheel and pad so that's not good news at all

  • @osmanseedat
    @osmanseedat23 күн бұрын

    Hi Alex in the pit house setting do you use 100% force feedback for moza R9 ?

  • @TheVideoGameHub12
    @TheVideoGameHub1224 күн бұрын

    I found the traction out of low speed corners to be like you're accelerating off a pool of oil (Beta Test)

  • @flynnster8174
    @flynnster817424 күн бұрын

    I have played on pad with no assists since 2015 and I can safely say the car felt remarkably unfun in the beta. The correlation between joystick and ingame wheel has never been as good as F1 23, it was the best handling on pad by far and was such a massive dissapointment to see this huge step backwards. It felt like I was playing a mobile game and didn't feel connected to the car at all.

  • @mantazzo
    @mantazzo24 күн бұрын

    A few notes that I can say from my own Beta experience (without getting into too many details): - Ideal Brake Bias is back to 50-52% (yep, we're going THAT road again) - Engine Braking seems to work best at low levels (like 20%) otherwise it just starts giving unnecessary oversteer - Hotlap ERS is by design, uses more ERS because it gives the Energy system at max capped level, however it also recharges a lot... So you can use it for multiple laps straight - Overall grip seems somewhat unnatural (maybe too much at this point) - Tyre temperatures can be weird, especially in wet conditions Overall, I think I'll just try the game after summer to see whether they fixed/improved on things or not...

  • @HarveyDabeast11
    @HarveyDabeast1118 күн бұрын

    I play on pad and havent really felt comfortable with the handling since f1 2020 so is there any way you could compare the handling on a pad from f1 24 to f1 2020? Very much appreciated if you can.

  • @florian2442
    @florian244219 күн бұрын

    This is why I've stopped pre-ordering games unless it's a team I genuinely believe in & want to support

  • @mikulitsi1819
    @mikulitsi181923 күн бұрын

    2:58 This is probably the most realistic feature of otherwise very arcade game. Full wets have been useless for the past 2-3 years and there's a reason why drivers have complained about Pirelli wets

  • @MajorBuckyy
    @MajorBuckyy22 күн бұрын

    I subscribed because it is the detail of content that I would like! It mixes in-depth analysis with user reviews. It also gets the facts straight and behind the scenes work correctly.. I would like to see more of this. I’m definitely gonna go out my way to check out some of the other videos! F1 23 felt really nice on a pad. F1 24 looks like it will be more easy on a pad but might take a while to get used too.

  • @un3der909
    @un3der90912 күн бұрын

    Crazy thing is, it’s not too much better on the pad. However, instead of front end troubles, the biggest issue is the back end constantly sliding out. This is the same issue as last game. By the way, what can I do via the setups to reduce the back end stepping out?

  • @KevinGraham-jj8pt
    @KevinGraham-jj8pt23 күн бұрын

    Can you post a link of your optimal settings that we could mimic as base set of settings?

  • @hatmanf133
    @hatmanf13324 күн бұрын

    This is why i like Alex’s videos and subscribe, the honesty is fantastic. Thanks for being honest Alex, and in turn saving me 80 quid. Thank you and fantastic video as always

  • @TomasPereira7
    @TomasPereira724 күн бұрын

    The battery not depleting completely was already in the F123 game so I guess it won't be fixed. It was normal to finish a lap with 30/40% in this game. I don't think that will be a problem in 24 because we can now use overtake in qualifying laps to use whatever battery's left

  • @antonkirilenko3116

    @antonkirilenko3116

    23 күн бұрын

    I don't think it's a bug. Unless of course you assume that the batteries in cars can hold exactly as much energy as the cars are allowed to use per lap in the regulations.

  • @peterlud87

    @peterlud87

    22 күн бұрын

    by the regulations there is a max energy deployment per lap so unless they are running a tiny battery it wont use all 100% (as far as I know)

  • @yar2000
    @yar200024 күн бұрын

    Didn't buy 23, will not be buying 24. I still watch F1 game content on KZread but I will be sticking to ACC myself. Thank you for an honest video, I respect that a lot.

  • @betelgeuse227

    @betelgeuse227

    23 күн бұрын

    F1 23 is the obly game with good handling on this era of cars,but yeah, stay with f1 20,

  • @albert328

    @albert328

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@betelgeuse227 Im going to restart a new myteam in 2020

  • @-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-

    @-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-

    23 күн бұрын

    @@albert328 I’m pissed the removed 2020 from the Microsoft store on Xbox. Not sure if they did the same on steam but you could probably bootleg it on PC.

  • @BlakeCDS

    @BlakeCDS

    23 күн бұрын

    F1 23 is actually decent

  • @makoboy230

    @makoboy230

    23 күн бұрын

    Actually get F1 23 especially if you have game pass

  • @prosecanlik4296
    @prosecanlik429624 күн бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but not only new handling system mad changes in the handling, but also the aerodynamics. They saw the changes to this year's cars in aerodynamics so they made them in the game too. It's just my opinion, but I could be wrong

  • @J4mezlo
    @J4mezlo24 күн бұрын

    Bring back David Greco

  • @AlexGillon

    @AlexGillon

    24 күн бұрын

    I beg 🙏

  • @lucatownsendracing

    @lucatownsendracing

    23 күн бұрын

    That's a name I haven't heard in a while

  • @AceBlake
    @AceBlake24 күн бұрын

    F1 2013 and F1 2020 handling were absolute peak. So going by that same rate well get another good handling game in 2027*

  • @SlickBillByron

    @SlickBillByron

    24 күн бұрын

    Do you mean 2027?

  • @AceBlake

    @AceBlake

    24 күн бұрын

    @@SlickBillByron ... Good point. Looks like I can't do maths 😂

  • @tomhanke7703

    @tomhanke7703

    23 күн бұрын

    Well 2023 is good too

  • @Shikitera

    @Shikitera

    23 күн бұрын

    @@tomhanke7703 not really f1 23 handling was pretty bad too

  • @tomhanke7703

    @tomhanke7703

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Shikitera nope one of the best so far

  • @Enwrong_
    @Enwrong_17 күн бұрын

    How does it feel on the pad? Wheel is a small percentage of the players

  • @mrc0a124
    @mrc0a12424 күн бұрын

    Now I see why soemone was taking a lot of curb around here on 23 because you can take all that curb in 24. That turn in speed on a controller is too fast and thats what I didn't like in 23.

  • @tommy_svk
    @tommy_svk24 күн бұрын

    So 70 dollars for a game that adds 0 new features from the previous game AND the driving actually got worse? Imma stick to my F1 23.

  • @tomhanke7703

    @tomhanke7703

    23 күн бұрын

    Well to be fair they added a few new Features

  • @thesucker2002

    @thesucker2002

    23 күн бұрын

    And F1 23 handling Is actually really good, if we compare it to F1 22 and this new bullshit of F1 24 all i can say is F1 23 its the best game since the new regulations appeared

  • @ammarisrar2005

    @ammarisrar2005

    23 күн бұрын

    They added new features, stop being such a negative Nancy

  • @thesucker2002

    @thesucker2002

    23 күн бұрын

    @@ammarisrar2005 tbh they are details, not new features, new features are things like classic Cars, new tracks, etc

  • @-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-

    @-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-

    23 күн бұрын

    This must have been the first video you’ve watched on the game or you’re one of those who says “I’m sticking to last year’s game” every year. Career mode is completely overhauled which makes this horrible handling even more frustrating because all the new features actual got me excited for the game.

  • @KingEspada98
    @KingEspada9824 күн бұрын

    Using the curbs in Imola looks like gameplay from F1 2013 😭💀

  • @Pangil12
    @Pangil1222 күн бұрын

    I'm very glad that there's a technical review of the handling. I personally am happy that the handling isn't like F1 22 (which was what I was hearing from leaks) where I was sliding all over the place. The only thing that I am worried about is how pointy it is but I guess we have to compensate through setups if and when codies decide to update it

  • @jaquandrejones
    @jaquandrejones23 күн бұрын

    Why is an analog stick/controller called a pad?

  • @LiamFliesDrones
    @LiamFliesDrones23 күн бұрын

    To play devil's advocate, I wonder what proportion of players use a pad? I suspect it's much more than we expect and, overall, maybe making a more pad friendly game could result in more sales and higher retention. I believe this is purely a move to appeal to more casual users and increase their total addressable market.

  • @jacobe8501

    @jacobe8501

    23 күн бұрын

    But pad is now 1,5 s slower after being about equal in f123

  • @LiamFliesDrones

    @LiamFliesDrones

    23 күн бұрын

    @@jacobe8501 i don't know this, but isn't AG saying that it's much more approachable on a controller even if it's slower? Maybe that carries more value than outright speed. Like when I jump from GT7 to F1 using a pad I really struggle

  • @Scarduck14
    @Scarduck1424 күн бұрын

    Also glad I wasn’t only who raised eyebrow that Casey used pad. David for 23 all year kept his Q&A open and discussed with everyone wanted from average padders like me to the 1%. Even addressed a few issues I brought up that pad player have. It’s a shame I think after good 23 handling. It would off been better to take small steps with handling changes. Giving himself another year to understand what playerbase like.

  • @head_like_an_orange

    @head_like_an_orange

    23 күн бұрын

    You're really overestimating how many people use a wheel.

  • @Scarduck14

    @Scarduck14

    23 күн бұрын

    Actually I’m not. I use a pad and know majority of players play casually. The point is a large chunk use a wheel. When designing handling for a car. A car uses a wheel. Not a stick. Best way to get handling to react realistically. Is testing it using a wheel that has far more rotation travel. And it’s a 1 to 1. Once that’s all finished. You’ translate over to pad. So you can scale wheel rotation to limited stick left/right travel.

  • @antonkirilenko3116
    @antonkirilenko311623 күн бұрын

    3:56 The most important piece of F1 24 feedback is from Tiametmarduk: Gillon in the mud.

  • @zenomony
    @zenomony22 күн бұрын

    Wait did he say it was similar to Project Cars? 2 or 3? Because while I only played 2 on a pad I thought the handling was great, I could literally feel myself hydroplane in the wet. Now I hear 3 was bad so if there was a difference that makes sense, or was 2 just bad on wheel? Or is Alex just assuming their similiar?

  • @patrickc9167
    @patrickc916724 күн бұрын

    Just watching the handling and sliding reminds me of F1 World Grand Prix on N64...

  • @calebhernandez4233
    @calebhernandez423324 күн бұрын

    I preordered it a month ago, REALLY regretting that now, going to look for a refund. I have really enjoyed ACC and other simulation titles. This is not what I wanted to hear. Thank you Alex♥

  • @thomasdarthfifa6340

    @thomasdarthfifa6340

    24 күн бұрын

    Acc is so fun compared to driving an f1 game, the amount of detail in my wheel is crazy 😂

  • @calebhernandez4233

    @calebhernandez4233

    24 күн бұрын

    @@thomasdarthfifa6340 It's amazing. Setup's have taken me a bit to get used too, but it's very fun when you get a one and the car feels glued to the ground

  • @motornaut

    @motornaut

    24 күн бұрын

    absolutely, make sure you refund it. We need to show them that this is unacceptable and the best way to do this is with your wallet. If their lacklustre presales start dropping then they might actually take notice.

  • @Chris-sm2uj

    @Chris-sm2uj

    24 күн бұрын

    never pre order

  • @dunk79jmf

    @dunk79jmf

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@Chris-sm2uj 100% this, for any game

  • @mikenichols8740
    @mikenichols874016 күн бұрын

    What about the arcade camera veiw you use

  • @Naalders
    @Naalders13 күн бұрын

    Ran into 2 bugs already. 1. Only dry tyre selection during wet quali, sprint and race 2. Somehow backed out of a quick practise loading screen. It hard locked my career safe. How they manage to f it up so bad when so little had to change.

  • @razorman73
    @razorman7322 күн бұрын

    Alex Gillon knows more about F1-Car handling than Max Verstappen and Lando Norris. Impressive….

  • @justinburley8659
    @justinburley865924 күн бұрын

    I’m not going to hate on the devs because I genuinely want them to make a good game, but I’m curious on where they got confused. Last year was the best handling we’ve ever had. Why did they go the opposite direction? Didn’t they say that they worked with F1 drivers this year? They worked with them last year too, if I’m right, and the results are somehow completely different!

  • @HBest94o

    @HBest94o

    24 күн бұрын

    best we've ever had is a bit of a strech but it was quite good. I prefer 2020 and 2018 and to an extent 2021

  • @jacobjones7843

    @jacobjones7843

    24 күн бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong but the handling designer Alex is referencing at 5:10 is David Greco, someone who was highly valued at Codemasters. Now that he's gone and has been replaced with "engineers" the drivers are no longer being prioritised. On paper what they might think is a step forward is 2 steps back for the player. Such a shame.

  • @renoultrenoulli2322

    @renoultrenoulli2322

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@HBest94oTo be fair those years have a different car regulation compare to 23 so it impossible for it to feel the same

  • @dgoodwin1122
    @dgoodwin112223 күн бұрын

    The older F1 games have never auto detected the turn rate of my wheel automatically, whereas every other sim does - i always had to reduce the rotation for F1 in the wheel software. Maybe its a case of setting wheel software to default rotation to offset the pointiness? Guess ill find out in a week 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @RAZINSKI
    @RAZINSKI22 күн бұрын

    I dont really play these games however if you can adjust the toe, I suggest using some toe in at the front to help reduce the initial turn in on corner entry.

  • @livef1fan473
    @livef1fan47324 күн бұрын

    They copied F1 2011 handling and called it a day. Full lock steering is back! 🤣

  • @Crukren89

    @Crukren89

    23 күн бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @dennisbrannvalls1fan964
    @dennisbrannvalls1fan96423 күн бұрын

    Massive respect for making this video, thanks Alex

  • @Gosti85
    @Gosti8523 күн бұрын

    Interesting regarding the wet Tires, as Lando Norris said that this time they nailed how difficult it is to drive with wet tires^^

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper204824 күн бұрын

    3:00 when was the last time you saw the cars used wet tires?

  • @MMR_adaltonian
    @MMR_adaltonian24 күн бұрын

    With the resources of EA, Codemasters should be bringing in actual esports drivers and select content creators to design the handling models of these games. All we needed this year were subtle improvements on the model of last year with *actual fixes to gameplay features, UI, and menu interfaces* that improve the overall experience for the end users. Instead we have *checks notes* a few track cosmetic upgrades and a dog shit overhauled handling model? Cool. It's like the creative director of this game is some sort of half baked AI chat bot that has no connection to what the players of this franchise actually want. It's so fucking frustrating.

  • @Maartwo

    @Maartwo

    24 күн бұрын

    Don't forget EA is one of the worst gaming companies out there. Like any evil anticonsumer corporation they are happy to offer an inferior product at a high price, as most buyers are mindless consumers that don't value their money.

  • @eliasop3544
    @eliasop354424 күн бұрын

    I think max helped with the handling this year and max is also a driver who loves a pointy frond end as Alex Albon said once in an podcast

  • @kian_de_gamer1638

    @kian_de_gamer1638

    24 күн бұрын

    Max would bully the developers to death if he would speak his mind

  • @JuicedOnKids

    @JuicedOnKids

    24 күн бұрын

    Damn Max ruining F1 and F1 the game, GOAT shit dude.

  • @geert574

    @geert574

    24 күн бұрын

    Max has nothing to do with this game dude they talk maybe 5 mins lol

  • @masso392

    @masso392

    24 күн бұрын

    There is a reason Max only drives on iracing and not the official F1 game.

  • @lunaticgamer75

    @lunaticgamer75

    24 күн бұрын

    I think the difference is understanding what game should feel like on simcade perspective and then taking feedback from real drivers. In F1 24 they just took feedback and copy pasted everything exactly as Max said without fine tuning it to be playable. Problem is not Max but the feedback takers who feed that info to developers and also devs just blindly applying all the attributes of handling without any tweaks

  • @Jackerette
    @Jackerette23 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the honesty. Didnt know you played the game late last year, but if you were worried then, i gues they cant change much now. Fair play for giving your opinion, genuinely worried about the longevity of this years release.

  • @hidde8232
    @hidde823224 күн бұрын

    Does it have PSVR2 for PS5?

  • @andrewwilson3544
    @andrewwilson354424 күн бұрын

    This gives off f1 2011 vibes. What worries me is they just can't take criticism. Codemasters really should have stayed independent from the shit show of EA

  • @Gamezoner911

    @Gamezoner911

    23 күн бұрын

    Nah codemasters were lazy developers even before the ea takeover

  • @leonmason77

    @leonmason77

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Gamezoner911yeah agreed, Codemasters has never tried to innovate with the F1 games. There have always used the same models, same bugs year in and year out. Really can’t wait for another dev to have a go at F1.

  • @jawiechomp896

    @jawiechomp896

    23 күн бұрын

    Gosh I despised F1 2011! I was very good at 2010 and literally couldn't make sense the next year when I went from top 50-100 time trial laps on my best tracks to like 1000th, and never understood why.

  • @user-lc5zp6fk6b
    @user-lc5zp6fk6b23 күн бұрын

    I haven't bought an F1 game since 2013. No regrets

  • @Real_Claudy_Focan
    @Real_Claudy_Focan19 күн бұрын

    Funny to watch when Lando Norris played it and said it was even closer to the real thing ! :D

  • @KCrusher

    @KCrusher

    18 күн бұрын

    this comment is exactly why you should NEVER take a creators version of "realism" into account. They have no clue.

  • @redcobra1246
    @redcobra12465 күн бұрын

    2:35 in real life they were all flying over that curb, even more than demonstrated

  • @punjew
    @punjew24 күн бұрын

    You've raced with me, talked with me about it, and I've said I quite like the handling model. And I'm on wheel. So, that's just not true that you haven't heard from a single person who likes it on wheel. Sure, its got some improvements needed, but from my own IRL driving experience on how tires behave, it feels better in that area. Suspension needs some tweaking along with kerbing, but tire grip and the simulation of the traction circle feels pretty solid

  • @skrolanvandamme5589
    @skrolanvandamme558924 күн бұрын

    Handling might be bad but its wierd that someone like Lando Norris says that the handling is more realistic. so claiming driving feels more unrealistic seems wrong maybe its the driving styles that needs to be changed not the handling? Edit: even Charles Leclerc confirmed its more realistic on a live stream

  • @micheledipietro9223

    @micheledipietro9223

    24 күн бұрын

    Bro, he was paid to say that 😂

  • @skrolanvandamme5589

    @skrolanvandamme5589

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@micheledipietro9223 well same goes for Charles Leclerc he just said it on livestream to xD thinking they both got paid to say it?

  • @user-hi4bi2zv1w
    @user-hi4bi2zv1w21 күн бұрын

    When I first jumped onto f1 23 i was a lot slower than I was on f122 I was to used to that handling model that I couldn’t get it right on so I’m hoping when I get used to it it will definitely feel a lot better than it does look 🤞

  • @benn8793

    @benn8793

    20 күн бұрын

    Every racing game has a learning curve. The same moaning every year.

  • @CCCCheese
    @CCCCheese21 күн бұрын

    Whats the red bar on the display?

  • @molnarandrelukacs5866
    @molnarandrelukacs586624 күн бұрын

    For me its my favourite handling ever. Its the most unrealistic and arcade handling i have ever seen. But i enjoy it xdd

  • @samuelsavisaari7888
    @samuelsavisaari788823 күн бұрын

    have you ever driven a real f1 car ?

  • @gagebyers1057

    @gagebyers1057

    6 күн бұрын

    I know right! I think I’ll trust Max verstappen’s opinion before some dude with a sim rig any day

  • @benroc6893

    @benroc6893

    5 күн бұрын

    Max is paid by EA smart asses

  • @apocryphgaming9995
    @apocryphgaming999523 күн бұрын

    I've been playing these games since 2010 on a pad, and whilst I'm clearly not Esports level, I've won races against wheel users. This news therefore is bittersweet - It sounds like the handling is "easier" for pad users than it used to be, so for things like solo career mode I'll make fewer mistakes etc, but it also sounds like it's ultimately not as quick as using a wheel. In fairness: If gamepads were ever 'as good' as a wheel then you'd see at least some Esports users using one. But that's not the case. One thing I note you *did* fail to mention is that a more arcade-y handling model is likely to make the game more accessible to new players who haven't played a lot of racing games. There have been versions of the F1 game in years gone by that have been almost unplayable on a pad. So at least there's that. In any case: Can't say the news disappoints me.

  • @iahlee
    @iahlee23 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your honest impressions! Unfortunately, we live in a world where people don’t have the balls to say what they think and they will say anything for a quick buck. Liked and subscribed!

  • @mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6295
    @mohammadhosainusofimotlagh629524 күн бұрын

    How is the curb riding like that? They even say the suspension is improved. Like what?

  • @Rob-wi3ir
    @Rob-wi3ir23 күн бұрын

    Had rotation at 310 degrees previously, sharp turning is fast.

  • @coaty79
    @coaty7924 күн бұрын

    Just come from jaros first take and he was trying to drive around the issues and be not to down on it glad you came out and stood up and they fix it for wheel users otherwise it will be the second game in 3 years i wait until its fixed or i find it second hand so i dont give codemasters or EA money its sad ive bought every f1 game on colsoles and even back to the amiga but since f1 22 i didnt get until i found it second hand and this year looks to be the same.

  • @geltiix2575
    @geltiix257519 күн бұрын

    The way you can turn the wheel agressively, understeer and then pick up instantly the grip reminds me of the Renault of 2005-06 with the Michelin tyres 😂

  • @MrJaz8088
    @MrJaz808813 күн бұрын

    Its feels like a Arcade Game, with no more trail braking, just power in, and around all corners, use the throttle to rotate

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy719123 күн бұрын

    2:57 well at least the wet tires are more realistic now XD

  • @BadWallaby
    @BadWallaby17 күн бұрын

    Just played and it feels like my wheel has had its rotation cut down by 80%. Feels really tight and when I counter steer from a snap it INSTANTLY gains grip and send in the counter direction. Like wut!?😂

  • @ringofart
    @ringofart24 күн бұрын

    I'm glad camber and toe settings are different gets a bit boring having then almost the same year after year

  • @condellmaurice8597
    @condellmaurice859719 күн бұрын

    Is the handling team specific. That looks like a rebull handling characteristics.

  • @yahkthx
    @yahkthx24 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the honest review mate

  • @henryroffe1328
    @henryroffe132822 күн бұрын

    Will this be the same on controller at all?

  • @davinci8257
    @davinci825724 күн бұрын

    I feel like an f1 game being a simcade isnt actually a bad thing. Controller and wheel users both having an enjoyable experience. Im hoping though that some of this gets fixed because its f1's official game so it should be fairly realistic especially when it comes to having setups that wont work everywhere. There should be a tradeoff between cornering grip and straight line speed. You should understeer when steering to fast and scrubing the tires and only be able to fix it by letting go of the throttle, on wheel and pad. The only upside for me, is if I'm in a league with mostly pad players, I'll have seemingly a massive advantage but I'd rather have to work for a win rather be gifted it.

  • @donnythedealer9761
    @donnythedealer976114 күн бұрын

    OO TELL IT TO EM ALEX I tried an F2 race on silverstone in the wet and the dry. The dry felt like racing in the wet, and the the wet felt like driving on ice. Whenever I brake and turn I just spin out. Im an advanced casual player who uses both controller and wheel and my AI is set to 94 on F123. On F124 Idek where to begin.

  • @pobgill
    @pobgill20 күн бұрын

    Im confused? Its built for pad, you dont have to worry about the handling problems on pad, but its 1.5 seconds slower a lap on pad?

  • @richardrobinson1663
    @richardrobinson166323 күн бұрын

    Appreciate this review. This will save me money for the 1st month plus which means if it is that bad I can skip it or at the very least get it on a massive discount.

  • @Volkain10
    @Volkain1014 күн бұрын

    It looks like you have grip hacks on. It’s especially noticable in the slow speed hairpins. You can kinda just toss the car in and no matter what the fronts won’t become overloaded and will just stick.

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