TAS starts at 00:46. Couch commentary is provided by MediaMagnet, 1davidj, numbers and dwangoAC. TAS credits: E-Dragon jagg2zero CGN superSANIC F-Zero GX Community Resource Providers: 1davidj FSF Advising TASBot Community Members: dwangoAC Serisium UnclePunch PistonMiner bobjrsenior Reverse Engineering and ACE: yoshifan28 numbers metaconstruct Credits Sequence: CraftedCart Graphics and sound: CraftedCart Funkmastermp DrD29k PistonMiner Zayitskin Super Special Thanks: Extrems FIX94 F-Zero GX Community

@GrantDavis

6 жыл бұрын

Whoever has been doing the thumbnails on these videos, good job!

@gigabytemon

5 жыл бұрын

P.S. This run is out of order in the playlist, it should play after SM 0% but instead got slotted after Kirby's Adventure. Love the work you guys are doing!

"yeah so we're balancing between 3000-6000km/h" *Oh.*

@bopit7373

6 жыл бұрын

Wilburgur I love you

@venheartzeil3070

6 жыл бұрын

*bouncing*

@iP0STcomments

6 жыл бұрын

just casually reaching 10,000 km/h, aka Mach 8

@lmao_nope

6 жыл бұрын

And that's on the slowest track, yeah.

@endarior

6 жыл бұрын

If only SSB would go that fast

6:30 Doing some quick calculations based on the km/h indicator. that vehicle is pulling approximately 189 G’s Most humans black out around 7 G’s

@lutyanoalves444

6 жыл бұрын

Woodpeckers withstand 1200 G's. With a bit of tech, i think humans will find a way to build F-Zero.

@lutyanoalves444

6 жыл бұрын

i thought he was a falcon

@CombattRogue

5 жыл бұрын

HUMM DUDE... IM SORRY TO INTRUDE BUT YOU ARE TOTALLY WORNG... I DID A 1 SECOND CALCULATION AND THE VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY NOT MOVING ITS THE ENVIROMENT THAT MOVES TOWARDS IT.... SO THERE FORE ITS NOT PULLING A SINGLE G FORCE ON IT... CHEERS

@smh9902

5 жыл бұрын

Hence the "G-Diffusion" system found on Arwings and F-Zero race cars.

@9volt65

5 жыл бұрын

Lutyano Alves Woodpeckers only experience that force when they slam their heads into a tree- they only experience this briefly, as oppposed to a constant a 189g pressure. In addition, they have evolved to be able to withstand this force. Humans have not evolved to withstand 189g. Also, this entire section is wrong since speed /=/ g-force. Acceleration = g-force.

I love how this is in the top three results when I searched "F-Zero on crack"

@astiesjgifugufuhf541

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@DDoodles_

2 жыл бұрын

Im just curious in what circumstance would you search that

@DDoodles_

2 жыл бұрын

@MageBurger I see

@underscore319

9 ай бұрын

more like f-zero on _s p e e d_

"Walls are merely a suggestion."

@Kylemsguy

6 жыл бұрын

Arc Ray I mean, this is true in regular F-Zero GX gameplay too. Same with gravity.

@ArcRay20

6 жыл бұрын

its just a funny statement to quote it regards to a "logical" reality, its not exactly normal to phase through a wall as if it wasnt there.

@Kylemsguy

6 жыл бұрын

Arc Ray well I mean in regular gameplay often the tracks send you either over the wall, or if you lift off the track you flip and fall up to your death. It's just that the quote is especially apt in this particular game

@trunkskoolkid

6 жыл бұрын

Same thing applies for most video games Arc Ray

@breakerboy365

6 жыл бұрын

CAN YALL JUST LAUGH AT THE QUOtE?

Game: You can't go any faster! C.Falcon: hold my beer

@lutyanoalves444

6 жыл бұрын

He doesn drincc beer only grape juice;

@davidficca8963

5 жыл бұрын

@@lutyanoalves444 no he drinks Falcon Punch!

I blinked once and missed the whole run. 10/10

@Travisdeste

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe I have a condition uuuuuhhhhh check your privilege.

@lutyanoalves444

6 жыл бұрын

DID I JUST HEAR SOMEONE USE A MICROAGRESSION?

"Hasn't been touched by us in strange ways"

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Which is to say, that was GDQ's unmodified Gamecube and an original disc. We made no internal modifications to the hardware and the only things we did were insert memory cards and controller devices.

@voxelfusion9894

6 жыл бұрын

I do believe that evertime123 tried to make a lewd joke. The TAS was amazing, great job!

@Livingeidolon

6 жыл бұрын

dwangoAC do you have anywhere where you explain more of the science behind these tas exploits/adventures?

@davemarx7856

6 жыл бұрын

This realistic background footage is jarring and unnecessary

@228zip

6 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you can't get a save like that without modifying it on a computer ?

What I find ironic is that according to the game manual for the original SNES F-Zero, flat-out skipping most of the track by hopping and flying across the map like this is specifically programmed against and now here we are

@DrewPicklesTheDark

4 жыл бұрын

It is in GX also since there are death triggers if you go too far off the track, but I guess the people who make the TAS' found away around them.

In the beginning, the guy said all the TAS presented here are replayed on an unmodified Gamecube, meaning that even if the encoder have trouble dealing with that speed, the Gamecube doesn't and still send a 60 fps signal. I still can't believe how well F-Zero GX is coded, maybe the reason Nintendo didn't release another F-Zero yet is because there is no way they can do a better Job (a HD remake on Switch would be nice though)

@StaszGonyon

5 жыл бұрын

At the very least, all the old F-zeroes should be remade in a modern or pseudo-modern style. However, we get abundant yet minor tweaks to the Mario formula, not necessarily "better" but despite the lack of significant changes, they keep pumping them out regardless. More and more characters added to each Smash Bros. is not really altering much in the core gameplay; how much "better" is each new game really? Why not get variations of these types for F-zero? Just because the change isn't MAJOR, as alleged by Nintendo, doesn't mean we don't deserve tweaks or variations on the existing formula. Since they never try, how do we know what can or can't be done with F-zero anymore? Finally, if they can constantly tweak the Mario Kart formula with non-kart vehicles being the only big change, then they have no excuse to hold back potential Fzero material that many fans would appreciate just as much like the plethora of inconsequential changes in these other series. I sure would!

@shny_scott

2 жыл бұрын

Video encoders have trouble with things moving fast. Most game engines (especially those designed for going fast, like any F-Zero game) don't struggle with that. This is nothing special.

@Putnam3145

Жыл бұрын

Sega actually made F-Zero GX, and it was done in Super Monkey Ball's engine. Fun fact!

@junpei6180

Жыл бұрын

They actually genuinely couldn't even at the time,they even asked the source code to amusement vision to understand how tf they did this in the game lol

@junpei6180

Жыл бұрын

@@StaszGonyon it's no secret to anyone that Nintendo loves to contradict itself lol They only said that "we can't innovate f zero" bs just to not say the real reason to not make a new f zero,Witch was "yeah it doesn't sell as well as Mario kart so we don't care"

*Car going at 5000km/h* "This is the slowest of the levels."

I still state that while watching this live, they had gone beyond plaid at that point, I still question what sorcery I witnessed in this TAS run.

"This is the first console verification of any disk based system ever. This is actually a big deal." I have no idea what any of that means.. 😑

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Disc-based systems are a challenge because we can't deterministically predict how long it will take to read data off a spinning optical disc. The method using the GBA and listening for hooks from the game on when the level starts combined with the unique game engine F-Zero GX uses made true console verification possible. I'll be providing more info on my next Twitch stream at twitch.tv/dwangoAC if you're interested.

@plutterton

6 жыл бұрын

dwangoAC Thanks, I understand now. I always look forward to Tasblock. Thanks for stopping by the comments 👍🏾

@lvcsslacker

6 жыл бұрын

that the given inputs with an emulator are possible and doable with a console. Though I'm not entirely sure if that's exactly what they mean.

@fanathewanderer4417

6 жыл бұрын

m e When playing a disc game, you can't predict when the game will start. Because of that, it's hard to do a good TAS. For instance, if you start accelerating after 5 seconds, you might be early because the game loaded in 3 ... Or too early if the game loaded in 7. In either case, the TAS won't work. The main difference here with the GBA is that the GBA is waiting for cues of the game to start driving. The TAS will be OK whatever the time it takes to load. Theres 2 implications : - 1 : you could do a TAS that works online. A bot that start driving exactly when all player are loaded in. - 2 : you can do an AI that 'see' what happens and react accordingly (think fighting games).

@danmanx2

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining...your team deserves a lot of credit! I don't know if an average person knows how much work it takes to run your own code on these systems, let alone the disc based breakthrough. As a gamer, I appreciate the hell out of these exploits.

This was just insane.

@JustinsaneS222

6 жыл бұрын

I agree

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

JustinsaneS222 I see what you did there

@JustinsaneS222

6 жыл бұрын

thank you for acknowledging my witty comment. My life now has no regrets :D

Damn, if you go any faster you will have to calculate the Time dilation for an accurate Timer Ask Einstein for help

@davemarx7856

6 жыл бұрын

😊 good one

As a long time fan of this game, this was just incredible to see. That there was even an attempt at console verification through the GBA (genius solution btw) blows my mind. I was so amped to see this and I hope GX gets more attention because of this.

These guys are amazing programmers.

13:06 - that heckler who shouts "casual!" and then goes off on a rant, though...

Nintendo continues their stand on the fact that they won't release a new F-Zero game until they figure out how to top this one, but personally, I don't think the Switch could handle all of this speed, finesse, and abuse.

@Frapskillar

5 жыл бұрын

Look at Fast RMX it Shows How powerful the Switch can be

@StaszGonyon

5 жыл бұрын

@RS1 What about the older games? No remasters or upgrades for them? A collection package at the very least.

@Kapten_R3

2 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding me, the switch is a lot more powerful than the gamecube

Me: ... Capt. Falcon: *YES*

I FEEL THE NEED THE NEED FOR SPEED

Art TASes are ju amazing to watch! I'm in awe! Thanks for this!

This was pretty fun to watch, though I do wish the commentary went a bit more into what the TAS was doing (and what it could do vs humans). At least as much as they could in the very short time they had.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Raven Smalls Agreed, we had a shortage of runners of the game at the event for commentary and the honest truth is I didn't prioritize rehearsal of the individual level sections as well as I probably should have. We were focused on fixing some consistency issues that kept us distracted.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

TV-GAME Fan I think I've personally managed to overcome mumbling but I can tell you it's nearly impossible to get more time to explain at a GDQ. It's one of the reasons I tell people to come to Twitch.tv/dwangoAC as I can explain what's going on in a longer format.

This must be the new racing tournament, "F-Negative One!"

1990: "oh man, I bet the demoscene will have ultra realistic graphics and the most badass sequences ever" 2018: 13:00

This TAS stuff is always a wild ride.

Now *_THIS_* is podracing!

NOW THIS IS PODRACING! - V.D.

"Are we saving or killing the animals?" "They are still being saved." "okay." ... Audience "Kill them anyway!" Brought to you by the monty python school of comedy. 13:21

Jeremy Clarkson is frothing at the mouth at the amount of SPEED.

Excellent work from the TAS teams and DwangoAC as always.

Ah yes, I was really hoping we'd see CGN's work here! Saw some of his and they're absolutely mental.

Boi is the bot doing fucking straight snaking at 6:30 That's fucking amazing man.

"Is that systemd?" Lost it 😂

That last one of the first five just had him going through Dimensions.

The track: exists Tasbot: ok the track is lava The game: 4:26

3000 km/h is 2.42x the speed of sound.

YES IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS. Cant wait to see a new live Fzero GX run by CGN sometime

@1davidj

6 жыл бұрын

if you're interested, F-Zero GX All Tracks was run just last AGDQ by AKC12, another top GX player.

F-Zero is such a fast paced game, imagine you are able to play it with the higher framerates of today like 120/144/240+ and have the chance to utilize your sharingan to finally recognize the level structure while having a sonic-boost-psychosis. Forget xbox series x and ps5 with failing to achieve a higher fps value than 60 in a stoned slow game like assasins creed or something - F-ZERO my boys! And a sonic unleashed style game. Boost your eyes out of your brain!

yeah, we found a previously unknown exploit for running arbitrary code for the gamecube, just gonna casually slip that in there

That was incredible O_O!

This is so Insane I've never seen runs of this game

I was so sad I didn’t catch this. CGN in AGDQ2014 got me into speed running.

inb4 someone finds an exploit that enables ACE on not just F-ZERO GX, but F-ZERO AX as well. Imagine Triforce ACE...

How to break reality and do falcon punches in the brain meanwhile

mind blowing tas

Dang, systemd got into a GC too? Awesome TAS anyway!

i wonder how many people got the linux jokes in that run.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Not many just yet, it's going to take a few replays in slow motion to catch them all as some of them are only up for a few frames. There's some good stuff in there, credit to CraftedCart for having a fun sense of humor.

@MhxAir

6 жыл бұрын

Only those with a Linux or Pi, so probably a very small 1%.

@npc6924

6 жыл бұрын

The systemd screen, or something else?

@yoshi314

6 жыл бұрын

@NPC that , and sudo jokes, /proc or /sys stuff. i'll just take another look and probably see more.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

yoshi314 There's a lot more, especially during the color a dinosaur segment. :)

Didn't catch this live and was super hyped for this video. Kinda disappointed that there was only one new TAS in this block of TAS's. Especially as seeing they've all been on KZread for multiple years at this point in time.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

FaliggetFTW What were you expecting us to do? In general we have to use content that's already been created, in part because the GDQ submissions process requires submitting a video of the run and we don't get special treatment from the committee (although I do keep in close contact with them). On rare occasions in the past we've been able to show entirety new content but I have to rest sometime so I try to take it easier for SGDQ events. This is probably the most complex SGDQ I've organized in fact.

@FaliggetFTW

6 жыл бұрын

dwangoAC honestly, I was hoping it'd be a Grand Prix, like the Mario Kart tas videos I've seen. I dunno. I also was kinda sad to see it was just replays. Like I was thinking it was going to be Entirely TAS gameplay and wouldn't require inputs from anyone after the game started. I'm sorry if my expectations were to high. I appreciate the work you do for the community.

"Reticulating splines"

I stopped trying to keep track of their highest speed around mach 10. For reference, that's ten times faster than the speed of sound. Screw science, Captain Falcon's gonna get that PB dead! (Not dead or alive of course because he's paste on the upholstery long before the car starts to break apart from the sheer speed and g-force, BUT THE FRAMES ARE KING)

Realistic high hypersonic speed in a nutshell.

Can you use the replay system to play back literally anything like you did with Super Monkey Ball or is there some sort of plausibility check?

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Eiertschik We did a lot of work to reverse engineer the replay file format which is pinned in our Discord.TASBot.net server but we found a way to take complete control of the entire console which was deemed more interesting.

Wow this guy is soo good

I'm -terrified- amazed

Set the playback speed to 0.5 if you want to see the courses.

Dude the freakin pilot

I miss this game 😍

Only relevant for the first three seconds huh? You mean that whole run?

I appreciate the coolness of a TAS run on f-zero, but somehow to me not doing the TAS run live on it loses its appeal.

@Mayhemzz

6 жыл бұрын

As far as I know it's impossible for them to TAS disc games live.

@NovaCyn

6 жыл бұрын

they demonstrated how far they are in replaying TAS on disc games with the GBA about 9:00. So you got as much of a console verification as they can do at this point, and the what it should have looked like using the replays

@nicholaswhite7056

6 жыл бұрын

thats why the trick with the gba was treated so seriously, that was an actual tas runnning verification in real time, and yeah so far its extremely difficult because of loadtimes being so variable, especially between individual consoles, one might have a dirty lens, one might have a borked drive...not to mention the disc might have a scratch. Too many variables to account for.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

As others have noted, we showed replay files for the first few levels then demonstrated that we can with enough effort get real honest-to-goodness console verification using a GBA to provide inputs through the controller ports. It's very challenging as you saw but it's possible with enough effort.

@Enny_Gima

6 жыл бұрын

couldnt somebody modify some controller hardware so that it would be possible to program a series of inputs purely electronically, from a computer?

Dat speed, gotta go fest!!

would have been better if they show a casual gamplay first, so we can appreciate even more this insanity

Spoilers... I lost it at Color a Dinosaur, especially since it was ASCII art....

wow i just realized the clock animation rectangles are binary

Imagine playing like this in VR... puke city!

5:44 I literally looked at a text for 2 seconds and he's already done. What the actual Fuck

That was so wild

I'm surprised that the encoder even survived for as long as it did.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

It was one of my biggest concerns ahead of time. I asked them to use tighter shots so there was less crowd movement to contend with so there were more bits available for the game. The higher bitrate of this event definitely helped.

e dragon? i used to play redout with that guy a few years ago, cool talented dude

*Y E E T*

ah yes f-zero characters have their g-diffusers become useless: the tas

I think I’m gonna be sick... :x

it´s like going backwards in AVGN "Big Rigs"

6:37 *WHAT*

Run: Exists Encoders: Am i a joke to you?

Guess Nintendo were still angry about that whole "Blast Processing" ads from Sega, lol. Notice how they stopped making F-Zero games when Sega stopped making consoles?

Is there like a technical paper or anything on how this was all done?

@dwangoAC

5 жыл бұрын

I did not write a long article about this run specifically but the basics of TASing are documented at TASVideos.org and TASBot.net has information on the process of console verification.

I blinked, what happen?

Wait, did they deprogram the game with only button presses? Or is this some sort of romhack?

@CraftedCart

6 жыл бұрын

It was done using specially crafted replay saves on the memcard. I wasn't really involved with the ACE so can't give any specifics.

@Eiertschik

6 жыл бұрын

My best guess is that there is a bug in the game's code they managed to exploit using a modified replay file. Then they were able to run their own code stored on the memory card.

@Eiertschik

6 жыл бұрын

reprogramming the game/console using button presses is only required for consoles they can't plug a modifiable storage medium (like a memory card programmed on a PC) into, like NES or SNES.

@CraftedCart

6 жыл бұрын

Precisely!

@Mario_bland

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks everyone I just remember the smb run they had years ago where they did it all by button presses. They didn't say they did that this year so I was curious.

that GBA tasbot code probably is based on Extrmems GBA-as-controller code from his GBA player alternative.

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

SumeaBizarro It very much is which is why he's in the credits. He was super helpful (albeit terse).

Gallant Star 64? More like Supersonic Fuckmachine.

3:43 ＡＳＣＥＮＤＥＤ

That guys laugh at 1:59 Sounds like Igor's laugh from Persona 5

6:40 Did anyone else hear that guy scream "WHAT?!" in the background? 😂😂😂

5:38 It peaked at 10,120 miles per hour

Asians: Tutorial mode complete

holy crud!!!!

10:19 - they clearly didnt actually expect it to de-sync there... it literally wasnt console-verified in this run. but they played it off as if nothing happened lmao nice

my eyes need a rest O.O

oh, we on that Seth Bling shit here

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Almost; Seth Bling does things by hand which is in some ways a lot more impressive but this takes it to an entirely different and humanly impossible level.

I'm a simple man. I see TASbot and I click

5:54.86 would make a nice thumbnail

brb throwing up

@lutyanoalves444

6 жыл бұрын

nvm just swallowed everything back

i would love to see that zeroday exploit, ive used modchips for stuff like this but a memory card used like this is pretty cool. i do imagine it is game based

@dwangoAC

6 жыл бұрын

Swing by Discord.TASBot.net and we'll give you more info, there are a few git repos containing what we did as well.

How does the game not crash at that speeds? XD

@kablooey60

6 жыл бұрын

CGN made the replay desync in a TAS of Cosmo Terminal.

@Kylemsguy

6 жыл бұрын

Hydroxoid yeah, but that was more due to the inaccuracy of the emulator than anything

@norigib6186

6 жыл бұрын

Carefully

What size

18:07 Intimate beard action

The AI rubberbanding in story mode:

I dare you to watch it at 2x speed.

And you thought the Genesis had blast processing. Oh no. AV did wonders by making their engine way too fast and that's on the Gamecube.