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  • @K_GHOST225
    @K_GHOST225 Жыл бұрын

    Good fight man, I'm looking forward to doing it again when they fix the FMs!

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed. [Gaijin fix game when????!??!?!]

  • @normal-potato05
    @normal-potato05 Жыл бұрын

    The HMS for the MiG-29 feels like a nightmare for players in sim battles

  • @WOLFER.

    @WOLFER.

    Жыл бұрын

    It is

  • @TheRealHIPER

    @TheRealHIPER

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WOLFER. why?

  • @Shadow27Titan

    @Shadow27Titan

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really since the sight is only as good as the missile. The r73’s pull extremely hard thus creating the ability to shoot high off bore sight. But the r60 can’t really do that aswell

  • @WOLFER.

    @WOLFER.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealHIPER R-27T with 8km rear range, or 6km all aspect range, no warning, no visual if they are smart and turn their radar off, and they don't even need to go towards, all they need to do is look at you and if your in range, GG's.

  • @user-vm3yj6kl6d

    @user-vm3yj6kl6d

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WOLFER. the theory sounds cool But there are so many issues that you dont cover because you never played it. Actually all aspect range is 4km which is same to 9L for hot targets. But 9L has a bit of flare resistance while soviet rockets are addicted to flares. Oh, your 27T can simp for the missile that your locked target launches which makes 27T useless. And oh biy you have to find the target first and come very close to actually hit. And they buffed US radars so that you simply cant dodge them with notching and thats so much toxic because you have only 10 seconds to do something to dodge a penix but you actually cant if you are a bit high above the ground. Aim 7 are more broken than 73 on the dev but you, nato simps, really love that so everything is ok.

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 Жыл бұрын

    The 2nd round for the F-16 was actually insanely intense.

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    It was some ace combat boss type of stuff XDDD

  • @No1harris_98

    @No1harris_98

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AeroTurtle it honestly does looks like it 😂

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF Жыл бұрын

    This video is way more exciting than the actual Ace Combat 7 elevator mission.

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    xDD

  • @dcviper139
    @dcviper139 Жыл бұрын

    Flying through f16 and dogfighting in it 300-330 knots is the perfect rate for the f16 it turns faster than a spitfire

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzzАй бұрын

    I miss the old Mig29 flight model😢 these days the only thing the Mig29 has over the F16 is the R73. Once those are gone, it’s basically dead.

  • @BARelement
    @BARelement Жыл бұрын

    Don’t drop below 350 knots, your were doing well above 340 but kept dropping to 274knots idk how it’s modeled but at least in DCS 350 knots is the min speed for rate fights.

  • @jacobbaumgardner3406

    @jacobbaumgardner3406

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta remember this is an F-16A. 5e engine only outputs just over 23,000 pounds of thrust. I still agree that it needs a rate speed above 350, but the ideal rate will be lower. I’ve noticed about 375 to 400 seems to be ideal, above that and the F-16A tends to compress.

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    This F-16 has a hard time staying above 350kts, without having the MiG-29 pull onto my 6. I have an easier time doing it in the F-5E. I'll need to train more with the bird.

  • @salt5879
    @salt5879 Жыл бұрын

    Nice content 💪💪👍👍.

  • @Jaeger_89
    @Jaeger_89 Жыл бұрын

    God damn the Mig-29's kill was insane!

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    It was quite the shot :>

  • @Mibarri
    @Mibarri Жыл бұрын

    I wish every plane had a G limit. Really makes you think about your next move. But just having these 2 have a G limit mixed with planes can pull 10-14 Gs is just bad design.

  • @Jojooooooo
    @Jojooooooo Жыл бұрын

    that mig-29 reversal kill was amazing

  • @evilcheesestick9306
    @evilcheesestick9306 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I'll be sure to post more!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS

  • @yashartcreation2654
    @yashartcreation2654 Жыл бұрын

    3 round was most impressive kill well done mig29 pilot

  • @nickfury1279
    @nickfury1279 Жыл бұрын

    I see you like Synthetic Mind’s remixes as well

  • @danielmostert993
    @danielmostert993 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice.

  • @charliec8434
    @charliec8434 Жыл бұрын

    Would be nice if u guys tryna do bvr next 😊

  • @Hunter_i86
    @Hunter_i86 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful dancing, thanks for sharing Turtle 👍

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!!! Love the CAS videos btw. Only reason I play tanks is for CAS XDD

  • @Mark-ft7nw
    @Mark-ft7nw Жыл бұрын

    I dont see how round 3 the mig got that kill the replay probably had some desync cause his nose isnt even pointed at the plane lol

  • @iamonfire92
    @iamonfire92 Жыл бұрын

    11:22 SU-57 moment))))

  • @diegoruiz7600
    @diegoruiz7600 Жыл бұрын

    try to stay in one plane when you're in the rate fight, using the vertical destroys your degrees per second, and always keep the viper fast. speed is life in that thing

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Speed is life in that thing, but for some reason gaijin ruined the energy retention in it. Could be because it's the A model, but the C in DCS has no problem staying above 500kts. For some reason it was hard to manage 350kts. Hell even the F-5 could do 400kts. Perhaps I need to train in it more.

  • @bluenightfury4365

    @bluenightfury4365

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AeroTurtle Gaijin's known for not implementing vehicles correctly

  • @magicalcheesefish

    @magicalcheesefish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bluenightfury4365 yeah, especially american ones

  • @bluenightfury4365
    @bluenightfury4365 Жыл бұрын

    This fight felt like Ace combat hell the music cements it.

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    :>>>> Thank you

  • @nicholasjensen8016
    @nicholasjensen8016 Жыл бұрын

    The one kill the mig29 got was such a bs hitbox moment XD. Either that or just gaijin net code

  • @enzohumeau8864

    @enzohumeau8864

    Жыл бұрын

    or the replay is bugged, happens

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the replay is a bit bugged.

  • @enzohumeau8864

    @enzohumeau8864

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AeroTurtle yeah some replays of me getting killed by shots 50m away gave me brain damage

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324
    @c0ldyloxproductions324 Жыл бұрын

    When will we see the a1h vs a10 🥺 also nice video

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    When I find a pilot for it

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324

    @c0ldyloxproductions324

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AeroTurtle i would if my sim controls werent fd up so much that al my plane wants to do when I take off is go down even when I trim it properly

  • @martinstensvehagen9161
    @martinstensvehagen9161 Жыл бұрын

    That cockpit is så nice and clean

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Ikr!!!

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Жыл бұрын

    why does the gun animation for the vulcan look like it's coming from 3 separate guns?

  • @wustengeist1791
    @wustengeist1791 Жыл бұрын

    Stay above 300kt til you see yourself winning cues.

  • @natsugaludao2340
    @natsugaludao2340 Жыл бұрын

    only in war thunder you'll be seing an mig29 keeping an rate fight with the f16

  • @WOLFER.
    @WOLFER. Жыл бұрын

    Ngl the f16 shouldn't be losing energy that quickly however it is the A model and it has a much weaker engine than the Late A models and C models.

  • @TheRealHIPER

    @TheRealHIPER

    Жыл бұрын

    Hes pulling his stick way too much, i dont think he even knows how to effectively rate fight

  • @K_GHOST225

    @K_GHOST225

    Жыл бұрын

    F-16 energy retention is gimped, MiG-29 nose authority is gimped, it will all be fixed eventually.

  • @justsomemainer1384

    @justsomemainer1384

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a late mode A. The ADF didn’t come around until 1989.

  • @toyotawitha20mm35

    @toyotawitha20mm35

    Жыл бұрын

    @@K_GHOST225 the mig 29 is under preforming in the 1 circle in air RB.

  • @Christph-vb1gn
    @Christph-vb1gn Жыл бұрын

    The thing i noticed about the mig is i guess it compresses in a turn with the after burners on. Youll turn good for a second and then you just cant get the nose around unless you cut back throttle. .. the f16 doesnt really do that it seems.. or maybe my sensitivity needs adjusting or fuel idk

  • @Takemura76

    @Takemura76

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro are you kidding? The f16 turns into a brick if it goes over 700 Km/h. You literally have to hit the air breaks to get below 700 for it to start turning well and once you do it does turn extremely well. Both the f16 and mig29 flight models are wrong. They should both be performing better. That or they need to limit other aircraft to historical g-limitations.

  • @TheDAWinz

    @TheDAWinz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Takemura76 Nope, the F-16A flight model is absolutely right. Look at its flight envelope charts, it turns into a brick going near and above mach 1. This isn't the F-16C.

  • @snaredrum5167

    @snaredrum5167

    Жыл бұрын

    All planes in war thunder have a maximum g load in real life. This max is multiplied by 1.5 and becomes the war thunder adjusted max g load. That way dogfights are more fun. For some reason, the f16 and mig29 are stuck with their real life max g loads. This makes them feel seriously sluggish.

  • @jonathanoriley8260

    @jonathanoriley8260

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheDAWinz The F-16 isn't completely correct in War Thunder. It's flight model is pretty accurate in low speeds when it enters its raid speed though said sweet spot should be about 50 mph higher, however it should _absolutely not_ be compressing into a F-104 at higher speeds - that is _blatantly_ wrong. Also, you don't base an F-16's capabilities solely on whether it's a A/B/C/D, but rather it on what Block it is. For example, the standard A/B Block 15 and onward had the engine we see in-game - the F100-PW-220 - but the A/B Block 10 had the F100-PW-200 and also wasn't able to carry AIM-7 Sparrows like the Block 15. That said, Gaijin got the models all messed up. The ADF in-game is supposed to be a Block 15 but it's missing the extra pylons on its wings, while the F-16A as labeled in-game is apparently supposed to be a Block 10 according to its model yet has the extra pylons the Block 15 is supposed to have, has the Block 15's 220 engine, and can carry Mavericks it wasn't able to IRL. In fact, the only F-16 in-game that should be able to carry Mavericks is the Taiwanese Block 20 (labeled F-16 MLU in-game) because the Block 20 is a Block 15OCU built to MLU standards. The F-16A/B didn't see the ability to carry Mavericks until the Block 15OCU package, which was the same upgrade package that also allowed it to carry AIM-120 AMRAAMs and Norwegian Penguin Mk3 (AGM-119) Anti-Ship missiles. (This also means that the Taiwanese Block 20 in-game should be able to carry AMRAAMs, but obviously that missile would be too imbalanced right now for the same reason the R-73 didn't come to the live server.) As for the MiG-29 9-13, all the sources I can find conclude it's fairly accurate, and all the DCS players I've been talking to say it performs almost identically. That said, I'm not nearly as knowledgable on the MiG-29 and its variants as I am on the F-16 so take that with a grain of salt.

  • @jordancourse5102

    @jordancourse5102

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Takemura76 Facts. They both feel like bricks. Not to mention the G limitations Gaijin put on their FM's.

  • @syfury3403
    @syfury3403 Жыл бұрын

    Can we have dogfight between F14, Mirage 2000, and the two plane of this vidéo not all in the same, but you understand 😉. Also love your videos 😁

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Challenge accepted. Also thank you!!!

  • @defenderbwe
    @defenderbwe Жыл бұрын

    Nice flying xD is this in vr ?

  • @diegoruiz7600

    @diegoruiz7600

    Жыл бұрын

    he's using track ir

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    trackir

  • @F-18Super
    @F-18Super Жыл бұрын

    How do you have so much control of that thing? Like the plane isnt bouncing around and it’s actually very responsive to ur aim.

  • @Kilo-sz4ch

    @Kilo-sz4ch

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably a combination of the plane itself being pretty stable and his setup

  • @F-18Super

    @F-18Super

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kilo-sz4ch I’m gonna say it’s bros skill bc even with a HOTAS with decently low sensitivity, this thing flops around a lot and definitely isn’t as smooth as his.

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    I use a lot of rudder control to keep the nose from bobbing

  • @F-18Super

    @F-18Super

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AeroTurtle please a tutorial one day bro lmao

  • @9999AWC
    @9999AWC Жыл бұрын

    Disable the pilot model when flying from the cockpit

  • @lukatodic1352
    @lukatodic1352 Жыл бұрын

    U bliskoj borbi F16 bi trebao izgubiti u većini posto slučajeva u odnosu na MIG29?

  • @Nobodys631
    @Nobodys631 Жыл бұрын

    Next ur in mig 29 and mig 23 in f16

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps

  • @christiancalderon2465
    @christiancalderon2465 Жыл бұрын

    Yo what’s up with this mig 29 pilot

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Жыл бұрын

    you remind me of gs

  • @wongarnold2879
    @wongarnold2879 Жыл бұрын

    Can’t BVR, can’t BVM, what’s the mig good at.

  • @wongarnold2879

    @wongarnold2879

    Жыл бұрын

    @Löwenstolz there is no instructor in sim

  • @K_GHOST225

    @K_GHOST225

    Жыл бұрын

    It's bugged, it will be fixed eventually. The radar was fixed today and I've been enjoying the R-27R a lot.

  • @wongarnold2879

    @wongarnold2879

    Жыл бұрын

    @@K_GHOST225 Matawg today still complaints about the radar. So if you are not playing the f16, you are doing it wrong. Both the mig and tornado are dead on arrival disappointments

  • @wongarnold2879

    @wongarnold2879

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow gaijin , great 4th gen for russia .

  • @holyxboris6666

    @holyxboris6666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wongarnold2879matawg is a Russia main and has a massive boner for the Mig 29 that’s why. Radar was fixed today and the thing excels in the one circle fight

  • @pavelkehaiov3502
    @pavelkehaiov3502 Жыл бұрын

    Mig 29 dont work

  • @Silent_WT
    @Silent_WT Жыл бұрын

    Mig-29 is better change my mind 😝

  • @normal-potato05

    @normal-potato05

    Жыл бұрын

    No denying in game

  • @frenchcar7664

    @frenchcar7664

    Жыл бұрын

    No denying irl

  • @BARelement

    @BARelement

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frenchcar7664 Try that in DCS lol

  • @BARelement

    @BARelement

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol it was 3-1 and the F-16 wasn’t played well in the rate fight. 350 knots minimum to do the rate fight.

  • @BARelement

    @BARelement

    Жыл бұрын

    @@normal-potato05 ^ :/

  • @ElixaWick
    @ElixaWick Жыл бұрын

    MIG-29 so suck.

  • @imfriendlyxdxd630
    @imfriendlyxdxd630 Жыл бұрын

    This is so bullshit, mig 29 outmanouvres the falcon easily, its what its fucking made for. Gaijin screwed us over real hard bc us mains are crying! God damn it

  • @russianboy9241
    @russianboy9241 Жыл бұрын

    Alot of people shouldn't forget that the mig 29 has been modeled in war thunder very badly still and has not been implemented correctly

  • @AeroTurtle

    @AeroTurtle

    Жыл бұрын

    true true. Can't even pull a full cobra :*(

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