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Good fight man, I'm looking forward to doing it again when they fix the FMs!
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. [Gaijin fix game when????!??!?!]
The HMS for the MiG-29 feels like a nightmare for players in sim battles
@WOLFER.
Жыл бұрын
It is
@TheRealHIPER
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFER. why?
@Shadow27Titan
Жыл бұрын
Not really since the sight is only as good as the missile. The r73’s pull extremely hard thus creating the ability to shoot high off bore sight. But the r60 can’t really do that aswell
@WOLFER.
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHIPER R-27T with 8km rear range, or 6km all aspect range, no warning, no visual if they are smart and turn their radar off, and they don't even need to go towards, all they need to do is look at you and if your in range, GG's.
@user-vm3yj6kl6d
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFER. the theory sounds cool But there are so many issues that you dont cover because you never played it. Actually all aspect range is 4km which is same to 9L for hot targets. But 9L has a bit of flare resistance while soviet rockets are addicted to flares. Oh, your 27T can simp for the missile that your locked target launches which makes 27T useless. And oh biy you have to find the target first and come very close to actually hit. And they buffed US radars so that you simply cant dodge them with notching and thats so much toxic because you have only 10 seconds to do something to dodge a penix but you actually cant if you are a bit high above the ground. Aim 7 are more broken than 73 on the dev but you, nato simps, really love that so everything is ok.
The 2nd round for the F-16 was actually insanely intense.
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
It was some ace combat boss type of stuff XDDD
@No1harris_98
Жыл бұрын
@@AeroTurtle it honestly does looks like it 😂
This video is way more exciting than the actual Ace Combat 7 elevator mission.
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
xDD
Flying through f16 and dogfighting in it 300-330 knots is the perfect rate for the f16 it turns faster than a spitfire
I miss the old Mig29 flight model😢 these days the only thing the Mig29 has over the F16 is the R73. Once those are gone, it’s basically dead.
Don’t drop below 350 knots, your were doing well above 340 but kept dropping to 274knots idk how it’s modeled but at least in DCS 350 knots is the min speed for rate fights.
@jacobbaumgardner3406
Жыл бұрын
Gotta remember this is an F-16A. 5e engine only outputs just over 23,000 pounds of thrust. I still agree that it needs a rate speed above 350, but the ideal rate will be lower. I’ve noticed about 375 to 400 seems to be ideal, above that and the F-16A tends to compress.
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
This F-16 has a hard time staying above 350kts, without having the MiG-29 pull onto my 6. I have an easier time doing it in the F-5E. I'll need to train more with the bird.
Nice content 💪💪👍👍.
God damn the Mig-29's kill was insane!
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
It was quite the shot :>
I wish every plane had a G limit. Really makes you think about your next move. But just having these 2 have a G limit mixed with planes can pull 10-14 Gs is just bad design.
that mig-29 reversal kill was amazing
Awesome video
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'll be sure to post more!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS
3 round was most impressive kill well done mig29 pilot
I see you like Synthetic Mind’s remixes as well
Very nice.
Would be nice if u guys tryna do bvr next 😊
Beautiful dancing, thanks for sharing Turtle 👍
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!!! Love the CAS videos btw. Only reason I play tanks is for CAS XDD
I dont see how round 3 the mig got that kill the replay probably had some desync cause his nose isnt even pointed at the plane lol
11:22 SU-57 moment))))
try to stay in one plane when you're in the rate fight, using the vertical destroys your degrees per second, and always keep the viper fast. speed is life in that thing
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Speed is life in that thing, but for some reason gaijin ruined the energy retention in it. Could be because it's the A model, but the C in DCS has no problem staying above 500kts. For some reason it was hard to manage 350kts. Hell even the F-5 could do 400kts. Perhaps I need to train in it more.
@bluenightfury4365
Жыл бұрын
@@AeroTurtle Gaijin's known for not implementing vehicles correctly
@magicalcheesefish
Жыл бұрын
@@bluenightfury4365 yeah, especially american ones
This fight felt like Ace combat hell the music cements it.
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
:>>>> Thank you
The one kill the mig29 got was such a bs hitbox moment XD. Either that or just gaijin net code
@enzohumeau8864
Жыл бұрын
or the replay is bugged, happens
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the replay is a bit bugged.
@enzohumeau8864
Жыл бұрын
@@AeroTurtle yeah some replays of me getting killed by shots 50m away gave me brain damage
When will we see the a1h vs a10 🥺 also nice video
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
When I find a pilot for it
@c0ldyloxproductions324
Жыл бұрын
@@AeroTurtle i would if my sim controls werent fd up so much that al my plane wants to do when I take off is go down even when I trim it properly
That cockpit is så nice and clean
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Ikr!!!
why does the gun animation for the vulcan look like it's coming from 3 separate guns?
Stay above 300kt til you see yourself winning cues.
only in war thunder you'll be seing an mig29 keeping an rate fight with the f16
Ngl the f16 shouldn't be losing energy that quickly however it is the A model and it has a much weaker engine than the Late A models and C models.
@TheRealHIPER
Жыл бұрын
Hes pulling his stick way too much, i dont think he even knows how to effectively rate fight
@K_GHOST225
Жыл бұрын
F-16 energy retention is gimped, MiG-29 nose authority is gimped, it will all be fixed eventually.
@justsomemainer1384
Жыл бұрын
This is a late mode A. The ADF didn’t come around until 1989.
@toyotawitha20mm35
Жыл бұрын
@@K_GHOST225 the mig 29 is under preforming in the 1 circle in air RB.
The thing i noticed about the mig is i guess it compresses in a turn with the after burners on. Youll turn good for a second and then you just cant get the nose around unless you cut back throttle. .. the f16 doesnt really do that it seems.. or maybe my sensitivity needs adjusting or fuel idk
@Takemura76
Жыл бұрын
Bro are you kidding? The f16 turns into a brick if it goes over 700 Km/h. You literally have to hit the air breaks to get below 700 for it to start turning well and once you do it does turn extremely well. Both the f16 and mig29 flight models are wrong. They should both be performing better. That or they need to limit other aircraft to historical g-limitations.
@TheDAWinz
Жыл бұрын
@@Takemura76 Nope, the F-16A flight model is absolutely right. Look at its flight envelope charts, it turns into a brick going near and above mach 1. This isn't the F-16C.
@snaredrum5167
Жыл бұрын
All planes in war thunder have a maximum g load in real life. This max is multiplied by 1.5 and becomes the war thunder adjusted max g load. That way dogfights are more fun. For some reason, the f16 and mig29 are stuck with their real life max g loads. This makes them feel seriously sluggish.
@jonathanoriley8260
Жыл бұрын
@@TheDAWinz The F-16 isn't completely correct in War Thunder. It's flight model is pretty accurate in low speeds when it enters its raid speed though said sweet spot should be about 50 mph higher, however it should _absolutely not_ be compressing into a F-104 at higher speeds - that is _blatantly_ wrong. Also, you don't base an F-16's capabilities solely on whether it's a A/B/C/D, but rather it on what Block it is. For example, the standard A/B Block 15 and onward had the engine we see in-game - the F100-PW-220 - but the A/B Block 10 had the F100-PW-200 and also wasn't able to carry AIM-7 Sparrows like the Block 15. That said, Gaijin got the models all messed up. The ADF in-game is supposed to be a Block 15 but it's missing the extra pylons on its wings, while the F-16A as labeled in-game is apparently supposed to be a Block 10 according to its model yet has the extra pylons the Block 15 is supposed to have, has the Block 15's 220 engine, and can carry Mavericks it wasn't able to IRL. In fact, the only F-16 in-game that should be able to carry Mavericks is the Taiwanese Block 20 (labeled F-16 MLU in-game) because the Block 20 is a Block 15OCU built to MLU standards. The F-16A/B didn't see the ability to carry Mavericks until the Block 15OCU package, which was the same upgrade package that also allowed it to carry AIM-120 AMRAAMs and Norwegian Penguin Mk3 (AGM-119) Anti-Ship missiles. (This also means that the Taiwanese Block 20 in-game should be able to carry AMRAAMs, but obviously that missile would be too imbalanced right now for the same reason the R-73 didn't come to the live server.) As for the MiG-29 9-13, all the sources I can find conclude it's fairly accurate, and all the DCS players I've been talking to say it performs almost identically. That said, I'm not nearly as knowledgable on the MiG-29 and its variants as I am on the F-16 so take that with a grain of salt.
@jordancourse5102
Жыл бұрын
@@Takemura76 Facts. They both feel like bricks. Not to mention the G limitations Gaijin put on their FM's.
Can we have dogfight between F14, Mirage 2000, and the two plane of this vidéo not all in the same, but you understand 😉. Also love your videos 😁
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Challenge accepted. Also thank you!!!
Nice flying xD is this in vr ?
@diegoruiz7600
Жыл бұрын
he's using track ir
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
trackir
How do you have so much control of that thing? Like the plane isnt bouncing around and it’s actually very responsive to ur aim.
@Kilo-sz4ch
Жыл бұрын
Probably a combination of the plane itself being pretty stable and his setup
@F-18Super
Жыл бұрын
@@Kilo-sz4ch I’m gonna say it’s bros skill bc even with a HOTAS with decently low sensitivity, this thing flops around a lot and definitely isn’t as smooth as his.
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
I use a lot of rudder control to keep the nose from bobbing
@F-18Super
Жыл бұрын
@@AeroTurtle please a tutorial one day bro lmao
Disable the pilot model when flying from the cockpit
U bliskoj borbi F16 bi trebao izgubiti u većini posto slučajeva u odnosu na MIG29?
Next ur in mig 29 and mig 23 in f16
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps
Yo what’s up with this mig 29 pilot
you remind me of gs
Can’t BVR, can’t BVM, what’s the mig good at.
@wongarnold2879
Жыл бұрын
@Löwenstolz there is no instructor in sim
@K_GHOST225
Жыл бұрын
It's bugged, it will be fixed eventually. The radar was fixed today and I've been enjoying the R-27R a lot.
@wongarnold2879
Жыл бұрын
@@K_GHOST225 Matawg today still complaints about the radar. So if you are not playing the f16, you are doing it wrong. Both the mig and tornado are dead on arrival disappointments
@wongarnold2879
Жыл бұрын
Wow gaijin , great 4th gen for russia .
@holyxboris6666
Жыл бұрын
@@wongarnold2879matawg is a Russia main and has a massive boner for the Mig 29 that’s why. Radar was fixed today and the thing excels in the one circle fight
Mig 29 dont work
Mig-29 is better change my mind 😝
@normal-potato05
Жыл бұрын
No denying in game
@frenchcar7664
Жыл бұрын
No denying irl
@BARelement
Жыл бұрын
@@frenchcar7664 Try that in DCS lol
@BARelement
Жыл бұрын
Lol it was 3-1 and the F-16 wasn’t played well in the rate fight. 350 knots minimum to do the rate fight.
@BARelement
Жыл бұрын
@@normal-potato05 ^ :/
MIG-29 so suck.
This is so bullshit, mig 29 outmanouvres the falcon easily, its what its fucking made for. Gaijin screwed us over real hard bc us mains are crying! God damn it
Alot of people shouldn't forget that the mig 29 has been modeled in war thunder very badly still and has not been implemented correctly
@AeroTurtle
Жыл бұрын
true true. Can't even pull a full cobra :*(