As someone who is not educated within the subject of aviation, I can only admire the ability of those who can devise such machinery. Whether it be Russian or American, French of Swedish. The ability to devise such machines is something to admire.

Two very beautiful aircraft. Thanks for uploading this video!

@LakeBodomsReaper

3 жыл бұрын

@Robert S Whoa there buddy make sure you don't cut yourself with all that edginess.

Good job keeping both fighters in the picture.

For anyone that wants to know what's going on. At 3:05 the mig just flew straight, making no attempt to rate the F16 while the F16 flew in behind them. So clearly they deliberately put the F16 into an advantageous position at the start. Everything from that point onward, though, seems legit. It's mostly a rate fight (turn rate) with both aircraft attempting to outturn the other (flying around in circles). The F16 is in a favorable position, but the Mig-29 is sitting inside the F16's turn circle. Basically, it's not enough for the F16 to point the nose AT the MIG, but has to point the nose in front of the MIG as it's a moving target. The F16 just can't get its nose up enough to take the shot. At 3:50, the Mig-29 sees the F16 isn't in a position to shoot and reverses the turn, attempting to force a more favorable scissor fight, but abandons that plan after realizing he can't get away with a second reversal. From then on it just goes back to the rate fight until the F16 finally gets the shot at 5:20ish. They break off shortly thereafter.

@aaronwilliams8600

2 жыл бұрын

Your explanation is not entirely accurate. The setup at the beginning is for high aspect BFM (basic fighter maneuvers). They start out together at the beginning and then make a hard 30 degree turn away from each other to get separation. That is when the F16 goes out of camera frame. Once separation is achieved they turn in toward each other for a head on pass. Which is when you see the MiG roll out and fly straight and ignite the afterburners. You don’t see the F16 doing the same thing because he is outside the field of view of the camera. Then they merge and start a one circle fight, meaning they turn in the same direction away from the crowd. After that it is a pretty tame turn circle fight since they are so low to the ground and a crowd of people. Real BFM is much more drastic with lots of vertical.

@rl7487

2 жыл бұрын

I see the mug 29 making tighter turns than the F16. The F16 appeared to be keeping up but lagging a bit ? Either way it would had been a good missile lock

@Dubanx

2 жыл бұрын

@@rl7487 Every aircraft has an optimal airspeed at which it has its highest turn rate. The F16's optimal turning speed is really high. So while the turn rate in degrees/second is excellent, the actual radius of the circle is quite large (because it's going so much faster). Which is why you see the Mig-29 always inside the F16's turn. Also, yeah. a 9x would have ended that fight a lot sooner.

@turanamo

2 жыл бұрын

All I see is the F-16 trying to keep up with the MIG-29 in turns and failing miserably

@Dubanx

2 жыл бұрын

@@turanamo Nah, unless there's a huge difference in turn rate between the two aircraft these kind of fights tend to be quite slow and drag on like this. Keep in mind that there's only a couple of degrees/second difference in peak turn rate between these aircraft so unless someone screws up it usually takes minutes to resolve. That's kind of just how rate fighting work.

This was not a dog fight, was an exhibition.

@dr.ikwuegbuobed9777

4 жыл бұрын

This is probably right as the number of people proves this an air show and he title is a misnomer.

@pallen49

4 жыл бұрын

Yep...I thought it was an 'air race ' or something. lol

But which one has the better cup holders?

@RePlayBoy101

8 жыл бұрын

+wahwah1013 i think the f16 does ... the mig just has vodka as first aid

@ike4584

8 жыл бұрын

+wahwah1013 America!!!

@eddienkik

8 жыл бұрын

+Face the Truth : Wrong MIG. don't have vodka it got pudding ( Putin ) LOL....

@cartmanrlsusall

6 жыл бұрын

wahwah1013 viper and it has good air conditioning and a reclining pilot seat,and it was all over that mig,even with those luxury accommodations

@gocristi7270

5 жыл бұрын

su 34

Only an incredibly stupid or immature person would believe this is a "dogfight" ... it is a choreographed airshow display, nothing more. Neither aircraft even APPROACHES the limits of its speed and maneuvering capabilities. No mock dogfight would EVER be authorized over an audience. Too great a risk of collision, too great a risk of pilots losing altitude awareness and impacting on the ground. Even to host choreographed/designed airshow events costs hundreds of thousands in potential accident and liability insurance. Do you think any agency is going to insure a completely random event? Don't be childish.

@FoxWithTheAngels

4 жыл бұрын

*C O R R E C T*

@ashokbedi2874

4 жыл бұрын

It's man behind the wheel, and his gutts .

@davep5227

4 жыл бұрын

Too low to the Hard Deck!🤣 The only place to go is up,or in circles so that the crowd can see 🤔

@michaelsublet3283

9 ай бұрын

You mean at an Airshow full of spectators they aren't having a real Dogfight trying to kill each other? Who knew? No shit it isn't real. Thank God we have people like you to point out the obvious. Well Done 🤣

it is also so easy to see the smoke from the migs engines, reminds me of early F-4 LOL

@trex9368

2 жыл бұрын

Russian Fighter Jets have ALWAYS had the Smoke issue. Not good in a Dog Fight. The MIG 29 is a Truck compared to the F16 is a Ferrari! Russia has always built for speed. Russia built a MIG to shoot down the US's SR71 Blackbird. Never once recorded a Kill and Sadly not a single hit on a SR71! The SR71 was built in the 1960's!

Americas best dogfighter even after 30+ years.

@bradleycampbell5933

8 жыл бұрын

+Joshua C not bad for old 70's junk eh?

@bradleycampbell5933

8 жыл бұрын

+Joshua C i did find out recently the f16 can accelerate in the vertical. i thought on the f15 was the only US fighter than can do that.. i assume the mig can as well. i assume the mig cant stay in the fight very long with two smokewagon engines burning fuel to keep that HUGE fighter moving. the f16 is much better on fuel.

@lol94132

8 жыл бұрын

you are so brave making coments like these in russian community

@bradleycampbell5933

8 жыл бұрын

sure

@electronicdawg

8 жыл бұрын

+Vykintas Velikenas Sense when is youtube a Russian community. Is that what Putin tells you? If Putin told you he fly's on eagles wings would you believe him. Of course you would.

The MiG-29 is a very cool jet, but the F-16, even with a drop tank, was in position the entire time.

This was an air show, not a real fight. In real fight, the pilot of MiG29 wouldn fly like on his first solo. An average pilot of MiG29 have a lot of good firing solutions thaks to schlem. And F16 jockey will not fly with external fuel tank in real doghfight. This was a nice flight show, nothing more. So cool down and enjoy

@Dave-ty2qp

5 жыл бұрын

It's always fun to watch miget wrestling. Just like reading the coments some people write, Most of them never flew anything other than commercial. And you are right Kamal, this is just an air show. Thrills for the spectators, nothing more LOL

First mig29 visit to North America was at an airshow in BC Canada. Mig pilot got lost on the way due to bad weather, poor coms, and no co-ordination with local ATC. A CF18 was scrambled to find, and guide him in, with fumes left in the tank. Russians thanked the Cf18 pilot by letting him fly the mig the next day ( it was a two seater). His debrief revealed the mig was slightly better in most flight categories, but had inferior avionics.

@adamscott7354

5 жыл бұрын

lol probably lied to troll them in case of a real world scenario, make them foolishly think the 29 will beat an F-18 super hornet, I mean really now

@jimellenw

5 жыл бұрын

CF 18 is not the ACM aircraft that the Block 50 F16 is

@GBLynden

3 жыл бұрын

You’re not remembering it correctly. American F-15 pilots guided them in from Alaska through BC down the the Abbotsford Airshow (there is video of that) which is the only one in BC that has jets. The rest is some made up Canadian Folklore.

@falconeaterf15

3 жыл бұрын

@@GBLynden According to a pilot who was there........Migs overnighted at USAF Elmendorf Alaska. Then flew down the pan handle with Eagle escort. Eagles are relieved by three cf18s out of Comox BC. A USAF AWACS was providing over watch, but Migs were under guidance from civilian ATC. When the Migs lost coms with ATC, they resorted to hand signals and did a close formation descent through 30,000 feet of cloud with the three cf18s, led by Major Bob Wade RCAF. The Migs landing at Abbotsford while cf18s return to Comox due to live weapons restrictions at civilian airports. Hear Major Bob Wades story on coldwarconversations podcast. Quite interesting.

@celsofilgueira8606

Жыл бұрын

Amamksk l😅

Two beautiful and capable planes.

I love both aircrafts. Both are just beautiful awesome looking machines. Very cool video 👍👍👌

It is not even a dogfight...Mig-29 can turn around or do a loop maneuver to get on F-16's ass.. Mig Pilot is just doing simple evade manuevers

@Fons1958

9 жыл бұрын

Sujith Kawashkar I would say the same if I was a Russian fan boy :) The Mig has no change and here you see for yourself.

@skawashkar

9 жыл бұрын

Fons negentienachtenvijftig Mig-29's cobra manuever's quick turn around can definitely be used to shoot the falcon down..oH I am sorry European pilots are not capapble to do such manuevers. I am sorry to handle Mig-29 there should be a well versed pilot in the cockpit.. Somebody knows how to use it.

@skawashkar

9 жыл бұрын

***** I don't know what that is because I am not a muslim..

@skawashkar

9 жыл бұрын

***** I don't you can go and give that to him..

@skawashkar

9 жыл бұрын

***** I am not either.. i don't even know who he is.. And as you know him well and saying his name always tells how aspired you are about him..

Except the F-16 is easily staying on the tail of the Mig this whole time...

@merelycorrect9567

9 жыл бұрын

Nathan Jones Because it was behind the MiG when it took off, and they are both still in the take-off pattern, moron.

@merelycorrect9567

8 жыл бұрын

***** If you were intelligent enough to do even the slightest bit of real research (which you clearly aren't), you'd find that other full videos of this same STAGED aerobatic routine are readily available, and clearly show that the two aircraft depicted in this "dogfight" are merely exiting the take-off pattern shortly after take-off. There is no dogfight whatsoever, shit-for-brains.

@Sub___Zero

8 жыл бұрын

+Ash Jones * Execpt the pilots kept like that Ash-----hole

@merelycorrect9567

8 жыл бұрын

***** Always humoring to see tantrums from butthurt, moronic wannabes who've never logged so much as a single flight hour.

@bradleycampbell5933

8 жыл бұрын

+Ash Jones i saw that too. he could have taken him with guns or missiles

An experienced pilot in an average plane will always beat limited experience in an superior plane.

@joegibbs3222

7 жыл бұрын

A crap pilot in an F35 will kill a great pilot before he knew what hit him......

@jtveg

5 жыл бұрын

@@joegibbs3222 Without missiles?

@F5Storm1

4 жыл бұрын

@@jtveg cannon

@jtveg

4 жыл бұрын

@@F5Storm1 His assertion was that: _"A crap pilot in an F35 will kill a great pilot before he knew what hit him...... "_ There's no way a *"great"* pilot would ever allow another plane to get into cannon range without him *"knowing"* about it. The F35 may stealthy but it is not invisible.

@deltacharlieromeo8252

4 жыл бұрын

@@jtveg agree. That is the problem with most Americans. They think the Lightning is invisible. 😂😂

Beautiful aircraft. Of course you idiots have to argue.... Why? I don't know...

@electronicdawg

8 жыл бұрын

+Crashburn 32 Because we don't see it through Vodka stained eyes.

@peterruiz6117

8 жыл бұрын

I have photos of a Mig29 I took at Salinas,Ca. airshow,up close.... I was suprised at the control surfaces. The were fitted like a tank, strong but not as clean as could be....They have always made machines for a very harsh climate.

@crashburn3292

8 жыл бұрын

Peter Ruiz Great air show there. Not exactly Reno or Miramar, but you're closer to the aircraft.

@argokan

5 жыл бұрын

@@peterruiz6117 I believe that (and the rough surface of that airplane) was done on purpose by russians.

@bugi1717

4 жыл бұрын

Both plsnes are awesome i have never seen a f16 in real life just on tv but here is Serbia mig29's fly every day two of them and they do rolls and stuff its really cool

You have a wonderful channel

@OneMonster

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Sadly, I have no time to develop it.

@mohsenalkaabi4093

5 жыл бұрын

@@OneMonster you most welcome

Very nice video

A dog fight? Really? That was an air show demo and nothing more.

@F5Storm1

4 жыл бұрын

@768PP let the Mig get behind the 16 and we will see how things go from there

@ammarmuslim9918

4 жыл бұрын

MiG-29 vs F-16 MiG can Down F-16??

@craigharris41

3 жыл бұрын

@768PP Mig 29 did a Scissor to get away, unfortunately the F-16 got a nice missile launch when the Mig came hard right after his big turn.

@giannizen3775

3 жыл бұрын

It is what we call a compliant dogfight

@TJTruth

3 жыл бұрын

@@F5Storm1 that's not how dog fights work. better pilot will always be behind better equipment. this case it must of been both. you earn the right to be on you opponents 6 its not given.

I think it's safe to say in close air combat the F16 is one of the best in the air... let just hope neither of these fine pilots and aircraft never face each other in a real war.

Completely agree. The F-16 is one of the most overlooked, underrated platforms in existence. Jim

@GBLynden

3 жыл бұрын

Truth!

Jee-bus, what is that MiG burning, coal tar? I don't think US jets smoked that much even in the early 1950s!... OTOH, the turn/reversal rate, "corner speed", and retention of airspeed/energy on the F-16 is just *awesome*, the very essence of 4th-Gen fighters... hats off to Gen Dyn and "The Fighter Mafia". ;')

@greg91786yuma

10 жыл бұрын

US F-4's burned dirty into the 80's, but you're right Ian, I cant believe it smokes like that either. Also, did you notice it was the one bird on the line that had two fire extinguishers right there. Just as likely to burn as it is to start.

@fixizin

10 жыл бұрын

greg91786yuma Lulz on fire danger... That's true about the Phantoms... remember watching them many times at Homestead AFB "back in the day"... yet *supposedly* the F-4 had the same GE J-79 engine(s) used in many of the F-1xx "Century" series fighters... don't remember the latter smoking as much... hmmm... send a Telex to AMARG, time to UN-mothball some F-104s... lol.

@JohanFasth

10 жыл бұрын

I have seen some early videos of B-52 and that one smoked just as much. I wonder if it has not only with the fuel quality to do but perhaps also some design decisions of the engine. Like use some fuel for cooling or something like that.

@gavinpease7665

10 жыл бұрын

I can't speak for the MiG, but the B-52 has what's called water injection. By adding water into the fuel mixture instead of a combustible fuel, you can achieve the same thrust properties without the added costs or danger, while running a more lean mixture. What you see coming out of the B-52's engines is actually mostly water vapor. I know, it looks a lot worse than it is.

@scottwins2

10 жыл бұрын

Johan Fasth The B-52 had water tanks in them to improve boost at take off, My dad was a Chief with them so I know.

F-16 excelent perfomance in dogfight. I have flown the F-16. I was a pilot. I still love the performance of this jet

@ammarmuslim9918

4 жыл бұрын

What Something F-16 Manuver by Hits By MiG-29

@fgeorge7434

3 жыл бұрын

But the F16 it is limited to 15AOA.How to be that good? be more specific

love mig-29

i really loved this does you tube has more videos like this?if yes,then plz somebody send me the link

I showed this dogfight real pilot, he looked at this comedy, laughed and said that this is not a dogfight, and an example of how not to fly in a dogfight.

Bardzo excellent! Which Plane do polski like best?

also i wanted to say we still need to see the mig29 a real dogfight before we can judge

Is beautifull to see this two birds flyng in the same picture/time.

Hello I'm interested in licensing this footage for a network documentary. What is the best way to contact you? Thank you!

@OneMonster

6 жыл бұрын

Hello Andres, I've sent you a youtube message with my email address, please let me know if you got that.

@OneMonster

6 жыл бұрын

Or you can email me directly at onemonster @ me . com

Always loved the F14 tomcat and along with the F4 an older bird

Ambos aviones son excelentes!, hermosos! cada uno en su estilo!!

It's so cool to see these two aircraft fly so close.

At last an east west dogfight please show more !!!

Will be nice a dogfight between F22 vs su57 😁

@pravindahiya719

3 жыл бұрын

Su-57 will win hands down ! because of the new kind of radars it has, it can not only detect F-22 but detect from farther distances. furthermore its missiles are better/faster. even a Su-30 can spook AMRAM missiles. Su-57 has 3D thrust vectoring / F22 has only 2D. 👍🙂

@hillaryisorena4283

3 жыл бұрын

@@pravindahiya719 you sure? Let's wait til they face each other.

@hillaryisorena4283

3 жыл бұрын

@@pravindahiya719 funny how the su-57 chases f-22 in terms of superiority. F-22 is old compared to SU-57 but still f-22s are superior that its counterpart. 👌

@soundslikebstome

3 жыл бұрын

@@pravindahiya719 Just because India thought about buying the 57, then decided not to.......that should be rhe first indication that you are WRONG. Russia cant give them away.

SO MANY PILOTS FROM FRONT LINE..ON THIS PAGE.. FOOLS ITS A SHOW.. LIKE HOLLYWOOD... DAA

mig-29 giving nice angles in every turn.........

if the f=16 can own a mig-29. i don't want to hear anymore shit about the f-22's not being able to easily perform the task.

@MrHabernet

10 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU someone with a brain. It comes down to the pilot. A Mig can tie up an F22 and F15 on paper. But in the end these tests are done without supporting aircraft like AWACS. The American planes dominate the skies like they did in Desert Storm. Hell Saddam's forces even tried burying their planes in sand!

@TechnoDelta

10 жыл бұрын

MrHabernet ROFL i didn't know that!

@hellobil

10 жыл бұрын

MrHabernet Saddam got beaten up because he refuse to do trade in US dollar.

@grasshair7266

10 жыл бұрын

MrHabernet There was no contest during the Gulf war due to the technology of the Iraqi Air-force and the training of the pilots and support crew where substandard at best. The USA always talks about how badly they kicked Saddam's arse which is like getting mike Tyson to fight a first year school boy. During the Second gulf war their armed forces were falling apart and most of his army was ready to surrender the second they had the chance.

@APerson-vt1qu

7 жыл бұрын

You mean f-35? Right? Because f-22 never lost to an f-16 once, that was f-35 that got beat up. Research it.

Note that the only time the Mig didn't smoke was when he was in afterburner. The 2nd generation fighter tables have turned. Before, the F-4s smoked in Mil power and the Mig-17/21s were clean. Now, the Migs show their positions like a beacon and the Viper is the hard one to spot.

@DrBF3000

8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Barlow Now? That MiG is almost 30 yrs old. And original MiG engines was smoky

Good vid

The fight was over right after the merge, it looks choreographed, pretty cool to watch none the less.

WTF ... why is this still being debated watch the video. There you see that the Mig was dominated the entire time. The Mig never got on offence. The 16 was all over the Mig or in the Mig's blind spot the ENTIRE time. so WTF are you all debating? the 16 and the pilot out classed the mig and it's pilot. Totally dominated him

@ohohlund

10 жыл бұрын

but this dogfight is staged, of course the polish airforce would like their newest fighter to beat their older.

@bombud1

10 жыл бұрын

whats worse.. the f-16 is not an air superiority fighter. interceptor and ground attack mostly. if it cant win against the f-16, its doomed against f15s,18s,and 22s.

@Saltee323

10 жыл бұрын

Ole Lund Lucky for the mig that it was staged. Every time they met in actual combat the mig lost. Every time.

@thartstone

10 жыл бұрын

Rodney McKay The evaluation of the latest Mig 35 against both the F22 and F35 makes sobering reading. They are both way behind in every area especially speed and manouverability. The Mig 50 is something else again

@thartstone

10 жыл бұрын

tony hartstone Sorry the Tupolev 50

WOW!!! Are you guys F-in BLIND!!!! The 16 had him measured up EVERY inch of the way and would have been over before the mig new what happened. Are you people watching the same video. Just dont really understand what your seeing. It was a NO contest. 16 win at whatever moment the pilot would have decided---Unbelievable!!

@myopicthunder

9 жыл бұрын

Its a choreographed show not an actual dogfight genius.

@ITmage

9 жыл бұрын

frank vitale Its play for people watching, dear lord chill.

@ITmage

9 жыл бұрын

***** Ofc it is, its God damn airshow.

@ITmage

9 жыл бұрын

***** Ofc you can i watched one every second day for 2 years while in air defence. You clearly see they aint even trying, flying around in circles for show dont be silly.

To all who watch this video. Remember that this "dogfight" was a show and took place within very tight confines to stay within sight of the spectators. The pilots both had their hands tied on what they were and were not allowed to do.

This was an airshow, right?

I'm no expert (only an aircraft enthusiast), but it looks as if the MIG pilot wasn't using the MIG-29 to its full potential... In a dog fight, I'm quite sure a simple Pugachev's Cobra manoeuvre would make the F-16 overshoot the MIG.

@zakat9892

10 жыл бұрын

this show

@wille1811

10 жыл бұрын

***** dont forget the fact that there are AA missiles now adays and u dont need to be 100 meters behind your target

@phugwad

10 жыл бұрын

The Cobra is a nice airshow maneuver but would be near suicidal in an actual fight. Anything that uses up energy / kills airspeed is a very bad idea. Though it is possible that one could cause an overshoot with any number of energy absorbing maneuvers, the more likely outcome is a missile or cannon shell up your tail.

@hanksmithjr5044

10 жыл бұрын

Mig-29's have the turning radius of a 200 car freight train.

@blakley52

9 жыл бұрын

so why didn't he get the upper hand? Paid off like a boxer taking a fall? Hung over? I mean seriously, why would he NOT want to show off the true capabilities of an airplane you fly and are very proud of? I think the Mig 29 is a very attractive..very cool plane. However the video looks like the f-16 was behind him every step of the way. I understand how someone would have a hard time with a fighter that is mostly used as a bomber admitting that it out turns a very respected fighter..the mig. I understand brother.

Given the choice I would take the F-16, at least I know everything will "work" when I need it to lol.

@GeoffB123

9 жыл бұрын

Pablo Jay Go back to CNN

@zipz8423

9 жыл бұрын

Wiley Black Says the guy who told me in another post how the Mig 29s which flew out of Serbia had faulty equipment when they went against US and NATO aircraft and got shot down, so thats called a FACEPALM where I come from lad, go back to RT.

@GeoffB123

9 жыл бұрын

Pablo Jay I never said that

@zipz8423

9 жыл бұрын

Wiley Black Yes you did but not on this video, the other one you replied to me on. Thats the problem when you spin a web of lies, you need a really good memory to pull it off :P

@GeoffB123

9 жыл бұрын

Pablo Jay I never said go back to RT

As a side thought though, what do you think works better, high stealth and moderate manoeuvrability, or moderate stealth and high manoeuvrability?

Nice

The Viper can out turn the MiG but the MiG-29 can sustain the turn without losing as much velocity. I'd like to see Rafale or Typhoon take on an SU-27/3x!

@jackcapone9486

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too.

@player101player101

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah right... and i saw Santa :D

The 29 was built to counter the 16, and the 29 is a good plane. But I'd rather be in a 16 when the shooting starts. Mig 29's have been shot down, but no F-16 has ever been shot down in an air to air engagement.

@user-ju6zz1eb5w

10 жыл бұрын

в 1992 году в США поводились учебные бои между F-15 и Су-27 ВВС России и американские пилоты и самолеты показали себя не с лучшей стороны как в учебных боях,так и сточки зрения гостеприимства

@BulawaRuss

10 жыл бұрын

кто где кагда ево сбил,и какова года был миг,и кто был пилотом,и США могут только бомбить ковровыми бомбёжками,или когда "беспелотная зона",история войн это показывает. или против ирака,ливии ? ирак и ливия не переворужались вот и проиграли,а вот с ираном бадаца передумали,да еслиб Россия была слаба её бы как ирак или ливию. но нет чтото их горячий пыл удерживает. Но Россия это не Ирак или Ливия,а Китай или Индия. Привыкли Амерекосы воевать стеми у каво только вилы в руках,а потом себя в грудь бьют,мол какие они сильные.

@barbagianny

10 жыл бұрын

that's right! But idk how much you know about aircraft but i'm sure you would agree that avionics and pilots training are a huge factor in combat! The only time when the mig 29 met western aircraft in combat was kosovo (Iraq 1991 i think that the iraqi pilots were not so good...) where may be an f 16 was shot down by mig 29(?) and about half of serbian mig 29 were shot down by allied aircraft (5 i guess) But we (the west) could see them way before they could see us, thanks to the AEW aircraft (the aim 120 were guided to targets through data shared with AEw planes). But Venezuelan pilots when they were ask to choose between the mig 29 smt (not the mig 35 they'are different) they did prefer the f 16 and ask for a better plane than the mig 29. So it is impoderable wich aircraft it is better than the other. Just remeber this in the vietnam war mig 19s shot down f 4 and over Lebanon 1982 mig 23 shot down f 15s and f16s...

@user-ju6zz1eb5w

10 жыл бұрын

после падения берлинской стены проводились учебные бои в германии между F-16 и МиГ-29 и МиГ продемонстрировал небольшое преимущество,несмотря на то,что у F-16 была самая продвинутая на то время авионика

@aviator-js3bh

10 жыл бұрын

barbagianny I know about the training factor. Air to air training is so important that the U.S. military opened Top Gun and Red Flag to train pilots. But in simple aircraft comparison I prefer the F-16. Did you see how the Mig-29 smoked? That gives away your position. Not a good thing.

Thats Awesome!

can someone tell what that stick on the back of the su-35 is

Fun fact: MiG-29 NEVER EVER scored a single kill (except one UAV in Georgia).

@cgee2224

4 жыл бұрын

@@maksim1856 yes it has. Iraq war, Kosovo, etc.

@dona.doni.69

4 жыл бұрын

@@maksim1856 they suck in real battle, like in Iraq..

@user-to3qe4um8r

4 жыл бұрын

@@dona.doni.69 iraq suck on battle.like all Arabians.

@guarana6245

4 жыл бұрын

@@cgee2224 Yeah, and in Kosovo wars for every single Serbian plane there was deployed like 40 aircraft from NATO forces, that's where all your legends about air superiority come from, bombing countries with hundred times less resources, while actually sucking in real conflicts, world wars, conflicts with more serious Arab nations, etc.

@jimmyfeets6279

4 жыл бұрын

@Zayed Haroon nowadays for the cost of 5th and possibly maybe 6th gen air crafts they will be lucky to get 1 squadron built and maintained anyways they wont have the experience like the U.S. and Russian pilots have. old weapons and SAMS were cheaper awhile ago wouldn't be a threat anymore though.

It seems that the Mig29 can make tighter turns than the F16. Still prefer the F16 though.

Very cool.

Isn't it beautiful how all of a sudden half of the comment section is an experienced fighter pilot or knows one ?

@GBLynden

3 жыл бұрын

I fly RC Planes, we see things through a different prism due to actual flying experience.

Guys remember there are different designs of Mi-29s meaning the worst are given to others.

@MichaelKing-tp6le

4 жыл бұрын

Same goes for the f 16

@goodday381

4 жыл бұрын

Same for the f 16

@hillaryisorena4283

3 жыл бұрын

Really? I think Israeli F-16s already downed mig-29s. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

Those migs always have smoky engines can see them from miles away.

A dog fight at an air show , that must be realistic

The Polish insignia always reminds me of what the Canadian insignia would look like in South Park's Terrence and Phillip's Canada."Hey! Don't call me friend, buddy ", "I'm not your buddy.guy!" etc.

Mig looks beautiful.. And heavy !!

I love the massive debates in the comments about a dogfight that was definitely staged... Guys, you're not gonna actually mock-dogfight over a crowd of people. It's too risky. I would love to see an actual combat scenario between these two, but sadly, stuff like that never gets put where lowly civilians like me can see it.

So much pilots and experts here.

Both excel in certain areas and lack in others. With good drivers both would be evenly matched.

3:01 SMOKY RICH BANDIT

MIG 29 piekna maszyna :)

Who made a kill?

and before you go on about Archer.......we have similar just a few years after being exposed to it for the newer model Sidewinder missile. so we have had that same ability for many years as well.

Uff, your 9-12s are smoky. Why won't you upgrade the combustion chamber pre-mixers or get new RD-33 Block 3 like India did? You literally burn money away by running the old ones not to mention huge concealment issue.

@killman369547

10 жыл бұрын

the polish airforce is cheap

@user-rt4cd9gf1l

10 жыл бұрын

Poles is the Air Force, about burning money, how much money you spend on the military?

Looks like the F-16 had the upper hand throughout the fight.

@lazgkhn

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like this idiot doesn’t know how to film

@GBLynden

3 жыл бұрын

lazgkhn No one uses film 🤦🏻‍♂️

Does any body know what that extra compartment is behind the cockpit of the F-16???

I agree whit you 100%, greeting from Slavic Poland .

Poor Mig, just couldn't get the F16 off its tail 😢

@waterprice8872

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Calderón Román The glorious Falcon is far above the Shit-29

@junelparrocha5793

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@ZR1Terror

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Calderón Román You mean MiG with a MiG?

@eddienkik

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Calderón Román : That shit just can't compare with F-16 LOL...

@helthuismartin

8 жыл бұрын

+ZR1Terror Next time put in a russian pilot.

wow, F-16, looked superior and the turns were amazing, that Mig would have been shot down pertty quick too.

@Diadema033

8 жыл бұрын

Only because the 'show' need it.

@smirnoff9703

7 жыл бұрын

f 16 will shit hot bricks in combat with a mig 29

@RePlayBoy101

7 жыл бұрын

mig 29 pilot wasnt trying ... and also in a combat scenario the mig wuld go to high altitude becouse there it berforms best and also that was the f16 block 60... that was dogfighting a MiG-29A...it shuld be more comparable to a MiG-29M

@DrittAdrAtta

7 жыл бұрын

+Vrbas Jimmy Page Actually, it is a Block 52 f-16, and its climb rate is higher - 310m/s, which makes it ALMOST equal to the MiG in a dogfight. It was not a dogfight, of course.

@kebab1865

7 жыл бұрын

+Vrbas Jimmy Page I think Mig-29 has better climb rate only on low altitudes. Climb to 10 kilometers for clean Mig-29 with half of fuel capacity takes 45 seconds, and F-16C doing it for 35 seconds. Mig-29 with 6 missiles does 360 sustained turn for 21.5 seconds at 1 km and 32 sec at 5 km. F-16C has 20.5 and 30.5 accordingly. Mig's turn at low altitudes is tighter though.

Let me state this 1st.. I love the F-16... one of the best turn fighters in the world to this day. However, I am unsure how the 16 would fair against the 29 in a vertical fight. That would be fun to see. However, like the dogfighters of WW2 you must know your aircraft. These 2 pilots do...My hats off to them :)

mig 29 smoke output is telling the f-16 i'm here. great video

@start3215

9 жыл бұрын

christian ace Smoke = Older versions of the MiG-29(this Polish MiG-29), the Russian army has new versions, they do not smoke)))

The MiG has better instantaneous turn rate, whereas the Viper has better sustained turn rate. In a two-circle fight, the MiG has the edge; whereas in a one-circle fight, the Viper will "walk" up the MiG's canopy & end up on its 6.

@thefightingace

10 жыл бұрын

the mig has a sustained turn rate of 23 while the f-16 has 21 so the mig can turn close the circle faster meanin that it has better turning capability...................

@kloudkreeper

10 жыл бұрын

thefightingace Actually the Mig 29 has a sustained turn rate of 16. As proven at the air show in London when it was first seen by the west. The best the F16 could mange was 18 as flown by a General Dynamics lead test pilot at the time. Do some research before spitting out numbers

@davetek490

10 жыл бұрын

Walk up the canopy? Not sure what you mean but angle off target matters more than position. Radar is in the front, missile light off the rail forward, guns fire forward. You can be looking at your opponent's exhaust trail all day and still be unable to shoot. Most missiles can't be fired under high g-load anyway, imagine all the things that could go wrong while a 500lb rocket is sliding off the rail at 7, 8, or even 9 G. It would be exerting a load of 4500lbs on the rail. On paper it would be a very even fight. Likely it would come down to pilot skill, and missile technology. In a quick fight it it very even, but in a drawn out scissors/turning fight, I favor the -29 simply b/c it has more fuel, can use afterburner more, and maintain energy.

@spiff1003

10 жыл бұрын

But as you can see, the F16 got the upper hand in a short time. If it wanted to stay on it's six, it would be stupid to pull the reticle up over the aircraft as you would take a smaller turn and "intercept"... Staying in the same circle means that you control it. Couldn't kill it with a gun without breaking the circle, but when you see how it was outperformed in the first turn it isn't really any doubt that it could. Wonder why the Mig with more power didn't go vertical instead.

Хороший меч не ржавеет.

Wich part of it was the dogfight?

@Dubanx

3 жыл бұрын

The Mig clearly let the F16 in behind it at the beginning, but after that it seemed legit. Go look up "Two circle dogfight". That's what we saw here.

Did the 29's left rudder pedal jam at some point? Because that was no dogfight, it was a waltz :-)))

That Mig got butt fucked !

Да F-16 корыто летающее, летает как трамвай, только своим роллом может похвастать. Кто там пукал на счет дымности? Засунь свой гринпис глубоко между булок. Эффективность самолета не в чистоте и красоте. Вы это скажите своей компании которая разлила нефть в мексиканском заливе.

@maratgilyadzinov4314

10 жыл бұрын

Ф-16 таки не корыто. В остальном +1

@Aqvilum

10 жыл бұрын

Патриотично, +1

@id_Usher

10 жыл бұрын

Серж Иванов Больше чем у тебя. Судя по армии) Ты служил?

nice

In a real dogfight F-16 can pretty much "own" anything in a 360 combat radius turn, it's not the best at quickly changing pitch but anything at speed and high G's the F-16 is right at the top.

@captainwin6333

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

New video on F-16! HAF F-16 Block 52 aerobatic programme from Radom Air Show - shot just yesterday, enjoy! kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWttsK-GeqSvqbQ.html

are those conformal fuel tanks on the back of the F-16?

@GrizzlyWhale

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it has a spine extension thing full of electronic upgrades

I'm a heavy equipment mechanic for a living and I'm going to school for automotive engineering, but these fighter jets are starting to swing my interests..

yeah a new 16 with an outdated 29.put a new F16 with a mig 35 AND SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN

@Fons1958

9 жыл бұрын

george gkoutis Any Mig will loose from the F16 .

@TallThoma5

9 жыл бұрын

The Mig would get smoked either way. And comparing a jet from the 70s to a prototype with only 3 built is fucking stupid

@dragonarms77

9 жыл бұрын

Stupid OK I might be according to you tiny little brain but its a fact that Russia's jets fuck any western plane in close combat anyday.just cruise around the net and see what the experts say.

@Stanley6296

9 жыл бұрын

george gkoutis Why should we cruise arround and watch for what "experts" say when we have here a perfect proof to watch?

@londonberry2180

9 жыл бұрын

Stanley6296 all i can see is that the Fulcrum turns tighter than the Falcon

it's like watching Usain Bolt (mig 29) beeing chased by an old man (f 16)! :D

ok~ show me the Dog fight

very fine aircraft pilots and aircraft

BTW the Russians do have the better airframe in the MiG-29 or SU-27/3x compared to any American 4th gen BUT they lack in the avionics and in particular the engine reliability and thrust.

@llynellyn

10 жыл бұрын

Wasn't the MiG 29's thrust advantage the reason it beat the F/A-18 in training exercises in the early 90's? (it's rhetorical).

@LudicFallacies

10 жыл бұрын

RD-33 has slightly more thrust than an F404 but weighs more and is only good for around 4000 hours before a rebuild. Mig-29 is a lightweight fighter where as the F/A-18 D/E is a large heavy multi role ground attack aircraft with fighter attributes.

@S7E4L7H

10 жыл бұрын

Yea well they lack pilots cuz they had no Rubles cuz of Ronnie Ray Gun drove yall into the poor house. Then you had a drunk steal freedom from you his name was Senior premier drunk Yeltsin. After him ya thought a KGB would be good lolz WTF is it with Russians do they teach them to be stupid or are they born that way??

@keke3441

7 жыл бұрын

It didn't help them much. That's why 12 Mig 29s were shot down by F 15s and F 16s.

New MiG-29 video! Aerobatics session of the Slovak Fulcum at Radom Airshow 2015 kzread.info/dash/bejne/g55r0c2xY8rOprA.html

@anthoneytracey4986

7 жыл бұрын

One Monster truck

@OneMonster

7 жыл бұрын

+Anthoney Tracey lol

Interesting demo. However, it was an airshow and with low cloud so they did not use the vertical. Unique to the Polish Air Force I suspect.

Which plane was smoking out at 3:08 ?

Wow Mig 29 out turns the F16 all the way!

@AugmentedGravity

10 жыл бұрын

nope.

@GeorgeWBush-im9ll

10 жыл бұрын

AirsoftGamer Yup. The MiG-29's axis is constantly oriented inside that of the F-16, which is always farther back and oriented increasingly outward. Afraid national biases cannot conceal the obvious facts. The F-16 'started' the 'unbiased' encounter in a favourable position (behind the MiG) yet was never at any moment able to turn inside of its opponent.

@spiff1003

10 жыл бұрын

George W. Bush Well, if you view the first encounter, you see that the F16 is behind him in virtually no time at all. That tells just about everything regarding the capabilities of the aircrafts. That was quick! So... Your point is valid IF it were to score a hit on it, but if you want to stay on it's six you don't want to get INSIDE the Migs turn circle. I'm really at no doubt that the F16 could fairly easily pull the extra Gs there and get the EEGS onto it.

@GeorgeWBush-im9ll

10 жыл бұрын

Did it ever occur to you that, at that "point", they are still in the take-off pattern?

@teufelhunden3606

5 жыл бұрын

The f16 out turned the easily. Not even a contest.

merge at 3:20 and basically victory for the 16 at 3:35