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@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

Please create a scenario with NGAD, SR-72, and B-21! All three DCS 6th gen aircraft in one vid!🙏👍

@davidmckenzie1695

8 ай бұрын

You should do the SU-34.

@ohmydog9171

8 ай бұрын

dope video

@DChrls

8 ай бұрын

P-47 vs. Fw-190

@mileswilson1776

8 ай бұрын

Sick f15 content! These have been such GREAT videos!!! You should try doing more with YOU piloting the F35 (any variant) not in a dogfight scenario but more along the lines of how it would actually be used. Your f22 stealth mission videos are amazing and it would be really cool to see you expand upon what the current (as well as near future) 5th generation planes can do maybe in a video where the f35 replaces the a10????

F-15 Is way more versatile. But if the airspace is uncontested/clear, advantage goes to A-10 in pure ground attack. Worth mentioning is that the ability to loiter over the battlefield also helps troops, and the A-10 excels at that.

@ChuckNorrisFist

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. Different mission sets. Send in Strike Eagles and Vipers to sanitize the airspace and SEAD/DEAD, then Warthogs to support the ground assault.

@seancrandall1291

8 ай бұрын

This. A-10 is not an air-to-air platform, and so of course it struggles in a contested air space. But its ability to just park over a battlefield and rain hellfire down on the baddies is unparalleled.

@eatdafat7101

8 ай бұрын

Yup, loiter time and focus on CAS

@giovannyc.1724

8 ай бұрын

A 10 has a permanent passive morale boost of +35% to all nearby troops within 10 miles. An additional +15% morale boost when doing a victory barel roll + flares over friendly troops within a 2 mile radius The Eagle does not have this ability

@jw8697

8 ай бұрын

@@giovannyc.1724 You forgot the +50% morale boost to any friendly units that hear brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

SU-57 v Apache. Joining the demand.

@kimchi2780

8 ай бұрын

Locked from 40 miles, fired missile, battle over.

@Jojotheowl1

8 ай бұрын

God not more of them.

@ryanwalterson737

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@kimchi2780apache flares easily counter the su57 missile

@mikeyplayz8438

8 ай бұрын

​@@ryanwalterson737my brother in Christ it's a hypersonic missile. Tyr apache couldn't DO anything about the missile coming because I can't move nearly quick enough to make the SU-57 or the R-37 lose lock, even with chaff.

@mikeyplayz8438

8 ай бұрын

Even in the dogfight the Apache would be toast due to the SU-57 basically can become a helicopter with more nose authority. 😂 Especially if fox 3s were allowed, the archer could simply deny the Apache it's flying capabilities before it even knew the missile was in the air. Let's not waste a daily upload on this guys. I just spoiled it for y'all.

Su57 Vs Apache? My day one of asking 😂

@davidgray2559

8 ай бұрын

@@logicplague2077 I'm just jumping on the band wagon 😉

Doing my part! Su-57 vs Apache please!

My god you know that tree pfp guy is going to ask for apache vs felon and you’re just rubbing it in now 😂😂

I'm doing my part. SU-57 vs Apache.

All valid points about the F15. However, have you considered the superior advantage of the A10 when it comes to taking out enemy porta-loos?

@0BuLLeT01

8 ай бұрын

Denying the enemy!😁

@JebHoge

8 ай бұрын

The Beagle could do a supersonic deck pass and demolish them with the shock wave.

@mbignell1

7 ай бұрын

We need an F-15 vs toilet video. Then we'll know.

A role that many don't know or forget, is that the A-10 isn't just used for direct CAS, it's also an airborne forward controller directing other aircraft and artillery.

@Stinger522

8 ай бұрын

A B-1 bomber can do FAC-A too.

@PhantomP63

8 ай бұрын

Seems like it would have limited visibility and large turn radius. Even fast FACs have typically been things like the F-100 or today, Harrier, F/A-18 or F-16.

@jw8697

8 ай бұрын

@@Stinger522 Relevance? is a B-1 bomber an F-15E? why mention an un-involved aircraft as if it is viable to the discussion lol..

@Mikestriken

8 ай бұрын

@@jw8697 in his defense, I saw it as him just stating a fun fact, a fact which I didn't know so it was appreciated.

@neutchain7838

8 ай бұрын

​@@MikestrikenI salute you mate, that is a very healthy attitude.

After watching this video, now I’m curious how the AH-64 Apache would do against the SU-57 Felon. Apache Vs. Felon ⚔️

@chrismaverick9828

8 ай бұрын

Until it has the Stingers added to the wing tips the DCS Apache will not be able to take any maneuvering aircraft. They would literally have to come head on and wander into it's gun or a burst of Hydras. And the Felon is just too maneuverable for a stinger to threaten at anything more than a mile, unless the pilot just doesn't see the smoke and is taken unawares. Meanwhile the the Felon has uncontested opportunities to attack down at the Apache.

@traviswalker8933

8 ай бұрын

I think this video gives a pretty good idea about how it would do against a fighter jet. It's no match for it like these helicopters which were shot down.

@J0nath0n.

8 ай бұрын

@@chrismaverick9828 lol yeah I know, I was kinda joking. I know Treewasnice has continually asked about it for hundreds of days at this rate so I was just following his lead. It’s a meme at this point 😂 I’m well aware it’ll be easy work for the Felon. I would like to see GS in the 64 though, sometimes he can pull some unorthodox moves and come out on top.

@J0nath0n.

8 ай бұрын

@@traviswalker8933 lol yeah I know, I was only kidding. I still would like to see it though with GS in the 64. Who knows, maybe he can actually find a way to beat the 57

@OoheavysackoO

8 ай бұрын

Guns only maybe? Probably not though.

It’s really mission dependent. The A-10 has loiter time and the Eagle doesn’t. Real world of course commanders wouldn’t let a fighter go in single, and just try to clear the board by itself. Too valuable an asset.

@OoheavysackoO

8 ай бұрын

Flight of one is a liability, flight of 2 is an asset 🙂

GS - I enjoy your videos. I learned a lot about military aviation through your videos. I heard recently that USAF is planning to phase out A10's in next several years and replace with F35's for ground support with objections from pilots. Can you redo the past A10 missions with F35's instead? I would be interested to see how effective F35's are compared to A10's.

@benn454

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the F-35 in DCS doesn't have a cockpit model, so GS doesn't fly it.

@PhycoKrusk

8 ай бұрын

They've been trying to do that for a while now. The A-10 remains valuable for the simple reason that the maintenance is much less than the F-35. I suppose you could also make an argument that the GAU-8 is more useful for CAS than the GAU-22/A. However, the F-35 does look to be able to carry more ordnance than the A-10 in uncontested airspace, and unlike the A-10, is fully capable of flying in contested airspace and still getting the job done. On paper, I could see its electronics making it even more flexible and powerful for FAC. In other words, whether the F-35 actually _does_ replace the A-10 is going to depend on whether its higher capability outweighs the lower operating cost of the A-10. Admittedly, that _is_ a pretty big hurdle to clear.

@neutchain7838

8 ай бұрын

As far as I know the ANG will hold onto their Hogs for the time being so they'll be around.

@jonathanpfeffer3716

8 ай бұрын

@@PhycoKruskI mean the gap in capability is “old bucket of bolts built to throw at Soviet armor with barely any sensors vs. most advanced fighter ever made with omnidirectional cutting edge sensor coverage that can dominate even modern air and ground threats”. Think that’s gonna outweigh any increase in cost. It’s only double the cost anyways, which will be lowered significantly once its production increases and it becomes operational. Besides, it doesn’t make sense to worry about cost in this context since the F-35s are already there and have been and will be. They are a sunk cost, while the A-10 is an optional one.

@PhycoKrusk

8 ай бұрын

@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Using the A-10 also provides a low cost alternative, which frees up the existing F-35s for _other_ missions.

You should try recreating the only Strike Eagle air-to-air kill recorded... Using a laser guided bomb against a Mi-8 (28?)

@MattH-wg7ou

8 ай бұрын

Mi24. The WSO who lased the GBU10 in recenty passed. RIP "Chewie" Bakke...an absolute LEGEND in the community!

@Canthus13

8 ай бұрын

@@MattH-wg7ou thanks. I couldn't be bothered to look up the exact incident. And the 24 is an updated 8 iird?

@MattH-wg7ou

8 ай бұрын

@@Canthus13 I dont know to be honest. I thought the Mi8 was an old bird and the Mi24 was a "newer" (in the context of this discussion lol) one that is pretty vastly different, but I dont know TBH.

@Canthus13

8 ай бұрын

@@MattH-wg7ou I think so... Like the au-27 to the su-30.

@Canthus13

8 ай бұрын

@@MattH-wg7ou Never mind. I had to look it up. the 24 is the Hind. I was thinking of the Mi-17. Both were developed from the 8, though. The 24 is just like the AH-1 was to the UH-1.

A-10 is probably still better at pure ground attack/support, with the payload, loiter time, and of course the Avenger. The Strike Eagle is an awesome multirole platform, especially with it's ability to self-escort, and very capable in the ground attack/support role. I think both platforms have their place, and which should be tasked for a given mission probably depends on the local situation.

@FutureGohanGlazer

8 ай бұрын

the avenger is really really good at killing friendlies and civilians while failing to penetrate enemy cover and armor

@zymuralchemy

8 ай бұрын

@poopyickydoodooobama09 ​Yeah, in real world conditions, the data seems to show that the gun, while epic, isn't any better than unguided rocket pods when it comes to precision or effect.

@hawkeye2816

8 ай бұрын

Strike Eagle has a higher payload.

@AmirShafeek

8 ай бұрын

I'm gonna pick you back off with another commenter. Said the a 10 is good for one thing. Killing friendly's and civilians.

@masterskilhollow

8 ай бұрын

@@hawkeye2816 That's interesting, I didn't know that. While I would assume the A-10 is still better at conventional ground support, I admit that it's possible in today's world of stand-off munitions the Eagle may actually be a more effective platform. I'm not familiar enough with the effectiveness of 30mm vs 20mm to weigh in on that argument, and with smart weapons I don't know if even loiter time matters as much as it once did; I'd have to let those more knowledgeable than me speak on that one.

For close air support perhaps the A10, for everything else, the F15

@OoheavysackoO

8 ай бұрын

Ask the guy on the ground which plane they would rather have support them. Different planes for different jobs. Maybe send out a 2 ship one of each, 15 to clear airspace and provide limited ground support and the 10 to support troops.

A10 f15 combo would be a devastating team

i loved this style of cinema with all the long shots of the aircraft getting hit and crashing down. keep up the good work my man 4

Those chopper kills were ace! 😂 Love the F-15, I had Starscream and Thundercracker Transformer toys as a kid along with Gobot Leader 1, couldn't get enough of it! 😊 Can the A-10 use the JDAM? Is there any loadout that it can have that the Strike Eagle can't match? It's a cool new jet but i love the classic F-15 more than the missile truck.

@tommy5285

8 ай бұрын

A-10C and A-10C II yes I believe so. A-10A no.

@traviswalker8933

8 ай бұрын

A-10 can only carry air to ground bombs in more quantity as it was made for that role and hence why was kept sub sonic. Also the F-15E is a bomb truck, not a missile truck.

@liquidgoose1518

8 ай бұрын

A-10C can have full precision CAS loadout with Mavericks + APKWS, Strike Eagle cant

GS: Sterilizes the AO Enemy: Alright maybe this was a ba(Sound of explosions and the roar of GS barrel rolling out of the AO and RTB) GS: Thank for the invite guys, let me know when the next party is.

GS - thank you for the quality content. Appreciate your technical military aviation knowledge. Please consider more China v US/Allies/NATO scenarios in the SCS. Provides valuable insight for those of us on the sidelines and not in the fight anymore. Thank you for your content and consideration.

If I had to choose a strike without much loiter time, especially if the airspace was contested, I'd go Strike Eagle every time. If an A-10 has air cover that gets shot down it's gonna make that Hog drivers job a lot more stressful.

Bro your content is always fantastic. Every time your knowledge is backed up with impressive results.

The only thing missing from those Mi-8 kills was the pilot screaming sound effect!! Great video GS. see you on the next one.

8:00 - They're going to start calling you Crazy Ivan.

Did my dude just say “is there no one else?” GS turning into Achilles over here! Haha, love the videos bud!

And award to that first Frogfoot driver for Best Jinking in a Hopeless Situation.

love the videos, keep up the good work

Wonderful flying! I'd love to see some F35 missions

Went to Wright-Patterson over the weekend, there's an Eagle sitting out front, looking menacing just standing still...

Semi-related - saw an image of an IAF single seat F-15 Baz Eagle sorteing with Jdams in recent events. Single seat Eagles with bombs is always an odd sight

@traviswalker8933

8 ай бұрын

They have done this in the past also.

Achilles: "Is there no one else?" Good stuff.

A10 is a dependable work horse, but the Eagle is a sexy beast that gets what it wants all the time. Know which bird I'd rather fly and it aint the 'Hog' !

love the vids keep up the good work

Watching the F15E is way more fun. Thank you for making these videos!

Ideally you use both - you have the F-15 come in and sanitize the airspace then the A-10 can come in and provide CAS - it has the ability to loiter in the area and make itself available to the ground forces as needed.

I think the better plane depends on the specific situation. If you have a large enemy armor column rolling up on a ground base, where you have air superiority, the A-10 is probably the better option. If you're going after a fixed defensive position in enemy territory though, the F-15 can take it out without really exposing itself, and can take out any airborne targets at a range that most of them won't be able to hit back (unless it's going up against more modern units, and even then...). I think if you're unsure, the F-15 is the better option, as it's more versatile.

It depends on the what the ground pounders need. The A-10 can stay on station longer with more A-G ordinance You don't have the range of weapons to respond to a lot of different ground threats.

I just love the M-i8 Hip, it’s such a majestic helo.

There is an article in warzone how A-10 pilots mentioned how the F-18E would be a good platform to do this. Could you test that?

That 2nd helli had me full pucker factor. Thought you were going to take him out with the jet.

you know you're flying too high when a Strike Eagle can squeeze between your belly and trees

Careful. Looks like that JDAM hung up. :)

Could try a rematch of the "modernized" Tomcat with the long range fox-3s against the Mig-25 Foxbat.

I don't really think it's a fair comparison. They are both very good at what they were designed to do. If you need air cleaning then the F15 is the choice, but ground support is still really good for the A10. I like both craft, but definitely have differing roles.

@Ws_minion

8 ай бұрын

It's entirely fair. The problem is that the A-10 can only do 1 job, whereas the F15 can do nearly all of them. If you're just talking about a strike, then with the amount of ordinance an F15 can carry, there isn't much it can't get done. The only area the A-10 wins in is loitering/time on target. It's a great plane, and it does its job well, but there's a reason it's being phased out, and that's because other planes can do the job as well and then some.

I hope that missing j-dam didn’t hit someone’s outhouse!

Keep using the movie quotes, love it.

Different platform for different jobs. Strike Eagle is surely better in a mixed environment, but the A10 has better survivability, loiter time and a wider range of air to ground munitions.

Autorotations are a wonderful landing solution for rotary aircraft, and just not available to fixed wings. But their weakness is that they require the helicopter to still be intact…

Its always so satisfying when he drops tanks

love your videos bro

You were so close so so close give the people what they want su-57 versus ah-64 Apache!

11:32 Yes sir you yeet a JDAM into an orphanage 😂

Ka-50 (unsure of 52) does have an ejection system. There is a mechanism that blasts off the rotor blades first and then the seat after. 8:51 -- looks like you died there clipping that tree. From actual (DCS) experience, being in an A-10C needing to deal with anything in the air changes how your operate super quickly. I'm sure this is why they just give these jets a quick "master mode" switch which is more necessary switching into fighting air (probably merged or close to) as opposed to fighting ground, when you would have located and identified a target, and come up with a decision on what kind of ordinace you're using aginst it. Realistically pilots are hardly ever intentionally sent on a multirole A/A+A/G mission. Needing to have situational awareness for both is too heavy of tasking for one pilot certainly, and radars can only be placed in one mode or the other even for twin seat like the F-15E. If there's any enemy air, it's almost certainly the highest level threat compared to anything other than advanced SAMs. I also know from A/G Ka-50 experience, that it's non-trivial to notice air creeping in when your performance visual searches for enemy targets in cover through the Shkval. You're literally searching through ground clutter and don't have a lot of spare checks for incoming missiles sites or aircraft flying around in your vicinity. At least A-10C has RWR so you shouldn't be fully crept up on by sensibly acting enemy air who would have located you through radar in the first place.

8:16 that shot was SO SICK!

I'd like to see some F-5 action maybe against a Tomcat or an F-18

@mikeyplayz8438

8 ай бұрын

He already did the F-5 vs. Tomcat. Not sure about F-18.

It depends on who you are and what your priorities are. The ground troops certainly appreciate the F-15 removing the threats over their heads but the casualties they took while that was happening sure would have loved some persistent CAS focused solely on keeping them alive and unharmed. Not to mention the feeling you get as one of those ground troops when you realize the air force already plastered your mission objective and your suffering was superfluous. See the relevant scene from the movie Jarhead. Any and all CAS is appreciated but I give it to the A-10 always. I understand the A-10 is aging badly but I hope they build something or things to take over it's essential mission. - an Infantryman

A10 for support for ground troops, but the gun on the A10 would rip apart the F15 eagle. In short, they (A10 and F15) are designed for specific situations.

There is no better. It is best for the role. The mission required a strike. You used a strike platform that can incidentally provide air superiority. If it were about strikes and CAS, the A10 is the correct delivery platform.

The Mudhen is on par with the Hornet and Rhino in my opinion. Being able to roll in, dominate the airspace, and then lay down hate and discontent on whatever poor bastards on the ground that pissed off the pilot at the push of a button. The A-10 cannot say the same.

Good points here. I would also respectfully submit aircraft selection would be situationally dependent. Light contested air space and a buttload of ground targets the A-10 gets the nod. Highly contested airspace and less ground support, the F-15. Both are great aircraft but the A-10 still very much has a clearly defined role that I'm not sure even the F-35 would be able to fill.

The F-15 and A-10 just serve very different roles. If you're only buying one for your air force, though, the choice is obvious.

Day one of helping the guy with Apache vs su-57 (you have to do it at this rate!)

you should do 2 part videos! Like one has the F15 come through to sanitize the airspace. then you follow up with the A10 you did all the sanitizing for.

that helicopter kills were epic

Could you please fly an I-16 against an F-22?

Unpopular but GS has just proved what bean counters have lobbied for - retiring A-10 with a fast jet.

You have a platform that when the basic airframe was designed the mantra down at McD n' D was "not one pound for air to ground" So why WOULDN'T it work better as airspace bleach vs something designed specifically to kill ground targets? I mean, yeah... it turns out the eagle makes a pretty good strike platform... hopefully they gave one hell of a Christmas bonus to whatever propellerhead came up with the "these F111s and F4s are getting old... what if we doll a new production eagle D up with a state of the art terrain mapping radar, all sorts of sensor pods, and then load it up the wazoo with stuff that goes boom when it hits the ground and see if its as good as an aardvark? "

6:45 forgot that the Betty was falling 😂

I was served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing was better then an A-10 or Apache on station. The F-15 and F-16s came and went in seconds. That said the airspace was completely uncontested. Time was also a major factor. Nothing moved quickly during engagements on ours or their side. A peer to peer conflict moves much faster as the Russian invasion of Ukrainian has shown.

what do you think of tv guided weapons since they're fire and forget but can hit moving targets

Could we see some F35 missions? Interested to see how it would compare

The A10s mission is really air to ground so for me, it’s apples to oranges.

Please create a vid with both The F-15E and A-10C working together!🙏 11:43 one way to find out👍 have them on the same team however competing in a way! Lol idk day at least 120 ;)

11:39 Is that where the JDAM near the bottom of the screen or is that something else

Hey GS is there anywhere you like have the downloads for the missions you do i would love to do something like this but I’m not that good in mission editor

It’s almost like asking what is the most important tire on a car. Could you drive with just the front two or the rear two? Maybe. But it’s so much better with a full set.

The F-15 rules, the rest drools...😏😁👍👍

Easy Saturday in office 😃✌🏻

Rec for the Troy reference if nothing else. A-10 for CAS, especially anti-armor. Hard to argue against multi-role of F-15 though.

A-10 out payloads the F-15 for sure, but for this mission it didn't matter so much. Having the rockets and mavericks seems to have worked well for you in the past. Can the F-15 carry cluster munitions?

@malusignatius

8 ай бұрын

The F-15E can carry cluster munitions, but comes up short when it comes to AGMs or rockets.

@stevemc6010

8 ай бұрын

​@@malusignatius"F-13E" 😳 That must've been an early Lockheed 4th gen fighter in another timeline

@malusignatius

8 ай бұрын

@@stevemc6010 Whoops. I'll go and correct that. :P

The A10 can loiter and hold a truckload of armament, so it has its place for CAS in clear airspace. In my unqualified opinion.

F-15, but I think u should try the F35 as a ground strike platform and try it with some external hard points. Can carry a fat payload.

They are both needed. A-10 and F-15 SE for ground and sky clearing.

Hard to speak ill of the A10. I love the gun.

Just thought of a scenario GS. A Spectre is performing CSA for troops in contact in what is supposed to be uncontested airspace when they detect su-27s? mig29s? your choice bearing down on it and needs help.

Weeeelll....no brrrt. Everyone knows it's brrrrt that matters. But seriously, it would be hard to go against the Strike Eagle. An Eagle....that Strikes. It's in the name! Both are creations of the late 60s, early 70s. Pretty cool.

There is a difference between ground attack and close air support. Being able to hit targets with friendly units 100 yards away is far easier to do in the A-10. The Warthog can also take far more damage than the Eagle.

A-10's problem is the gun and the older models having no smart weapons. The gun has a 12 meter radius for a bullseye... So it's longer than a bus. Means that danger close gunning is where the blue on blue comes. Using smart weapons is far better and smarter. Not as impressive as the gun run, but safer for everyone.

They compliment each other, F 15 can "sanitize" air space while the A 10 spends a long time on ground targets. Kind of the late honorable senator McCain's point when he stopped the A 10 retirement cold. RIP.

I think it just depends on the particular mission for which platform is better

Question should be, how many A-10s can you send in for the same financial costs as one Strike Eagle?

what exactly does the back seater in an F-15E do? doesn't seem like a lot.

@user-ks6pv7uw4m

8 ай бұрын

I'd like to know that, too.

Lots of airplanes in the air? F-15! Lots of ground targets? A-10!

this is interesting 🚁⚒️🛩

I think you'd struggle to find another aircraft able to carry as much ordnance as an A-10 in combination with its loitering time. The F-15 is more of an "go in, drop soem stuff, go out" aircraft, and you'd have to send probably 2-3 F15 to do the job of one A-10. Speaking solely of ground targets, obviously. The F-15 is way more versatile. I'd say it depends on the mission profile which aircraft is better suited for the job.

F-15 vs bathhouse is next

F-15E was a great choice for this mission.

also maybe do a comparison with troops in contact, they get ambushed and you need to support them, more of personal vs personal and all just armor, id imagine the a-10 would be easier to climate targets ambushing from buildings etc with its gun and lower speeds

Awesome video, as always. I think it's safe to say the A-10 is the better ground attack platform, but the Mudhen is the better overall. Would love to see you do a similar video, but with the Su-25. You only ever seem to use it for dogfighting, but it'd be very interesting to see you use it in a ground attack capacity. Thanks for all your hard work!!

Seemed like you were flying the eagle like the A-10. Instead of having to dodge that SA-13, why not fly above its engagement capabilities and jdam from above?