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@Defenestrators

Жыл бұрын

You should dogfight WWII bombers. I think that would be really interesting to see the massive planes trying to turn inside eachothers circles

@ImSaneperson

Жыл бұрын

It's been a while since you've tried the SU30MKI , hoping you will do it soon 🙂Cheers ! (what about SU30 VS SU35 😉)

Man that kill in round 2, it looks like the airframe took critical structural damage, went into a hyper-G situation spinning out uncontrollably, and literally split apart at the seams from the forces. It flipped around so damn fast there like it was a leaf on the wind in a hurricane, no wonder it exploded

@SuperCrysiscore

Жыл бұрын

Well... At last it was a Quick death for the Pilot.

@mikethemaniac1

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperCrysiscore I would imagine that unless the cockpit collided with the engine (I'm imagining the airframe folding in the middle) there'd still be a chance for the pilot to eject from an in tact cockpit

@onegg04

Жыл бұрын

But he's a leaf on the wind and watch how he... oh, nvm that went badly for that 'one' pilot :(

@SixSioux

Жыл бұрын

Nah, it was clearly not spinning that fast. It did not even reached a full 180 degrees spin in a full second. Probably was "just" a Fox 2 that ignited and exploded.

@heathb4319

Жыл бұрын

@@onegg04 ...Still to soon. RIP Hoburn Washbourne. You truly were a leaf on the wind.

The real hero of the video is Sven and his trusty snow shovel, For you new guys - Sven lives in the fuselage of the viggen, his job is to beat the engine sensless when it compressor stalls with his snow shovel till it relights. You can hear him whaling on it in the back during high AOA manuvers. All viggens come with a Sven. If Sven is struck with gunfire, he is wired to explode violently and destroy the entire plane so his secret nordic snow shovel technology can't fall into enemy hands.

@BeingFireRetardant

Жыл бұрын

Best comment...

@BaseSerpentMessmer

Жыл бұрын

​😂

@hendrikkoal2961

Жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: He got trained for his Job on IKEA-shelfs

Actually even if the f-15c variant would destroy the Viggen it would still be pretty interesting to see how big of a difference it would be.

@JETZcorp

Жыл бұрын

I think he's done that match in the past?

@Peronet781

Жыл бұрын

I’ll definetly check it out in that case!

@paulocarvalho1351

Жыл бұрын

Note that the AJS is the attacker variant, so until we get a fighter viggen, the C or D (Wich has more chance to appear) the viggen fights might get more spicy

@Peronet781

Жыл бұрын

@@paulocarvalho1351 yep

@Aquascape_Dreaming

Жыл бұрын

For as little as it's worth, my feeling is that the difference would be immense.

One of very few cases in DCS where the fuselage of a plane actually got destroyed (I'm talking about the fuselage here, obviously the wings, tail and nose cone can be broken off). However, it's still all or nothing. It either remains mostly intact after a kill (save for some shrapnel holes) or is completely gone like in this case. Never does it break in two or any number of discernable pieces. A small detail, but it does hurt the believability and immersion of DCS a little. Not sure if it's DCS as a platform or the planes' damage modelling, but it needs to change.

@traviswalker8933

Жыл бұрын

Or the old airframe couldn't handle the high Gs.

@heretolevitateme

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a few rounds on your wings and suddenly the entire model is filled with bullet holes.

@markgadsby5568

Жыл бұрын

I am still blown away by the realism. Must be really behind the curve because to me I’d forgive it that small detail.

@BM-zv4xz

Жыл бұрын

@@markgadsby5568 You play or watch it enough, it starts getting on your nerves a bit :)

@Nyx_2142

8 ай бұрын

They have bigger and more important priorities than your "immersion"

It is really cool to also see the bandits perspectives. Would like to see more of that.

This is one of those times I wish they had the Ja-37C or 37D. Has the better engine so there's less comp stalls. And an internal gun.

@Peronet781

Жыл бұрын

Ik, hopefuly he does that in the future

@Hsecrpntr

Жыл бұрын

On the plus side, Sven is back

@benn454

7 ай бұрын

@@Hsecrpntr It's not much, but it's honest work

If you want better air-to-air capability, you need to find a model of the JA-37 variant of the Viggen, which was designed as a fighter, with a real air-to-air radar, better engines, and a BVR capability.

I like how you're including the opponent's view during the kill (either way). I've long wished for that! 😊

Sven back there banging on the engine trying to get it going again!

@Peronet781

Жыл бұрын

”Sven, motorn har stannat igen du måste banka igång den” ”Sven, automatkanonen har fastnat klättra ut och fixa det”

Makes me think, could we see a strike mission with the Viggen? I think that will be cool!

It's great to see from the other perspective after a fight. Definitely like to see more of it.

These time stamps are great. 6:18 This is hilarious watching the Viggen explode into the Multiverse by Dr Strange and the uncontrollable laughter of GS following lol and at 10:26 seeing the color of the pilots eyes in the rearview mirror had to be terrifying. Even a gamer seeing him in the rearview must have been intense. Great vid.

@jm56585

Жыл бұрын

10:28 belongs in a horror movie

This is the AJS version there is a better version for dog fights called JA 37 which was optimized for these scenarios. It had a new version of the engine which you could stress alot further before compressor stalls. JA 37 was a testing platform for systems later fitted on Gripen and my guess is thats why DCS havent been able to get their hands on the flight model for that version of the plane

Viggen is pretty impressive considering how old it is. I bet the Gripen also is much better then we think. Here in Switzerland we bought the F35, don‘t know which is better in the Alps

@rhysgoodman7628

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to have the Gripen…

@dreaminknight

Жыл бұрын

The Gripen E/F was consideted being the weakest by far - vs. The SH, Typhoon and the Rafale. The F-35 won in all aspect than counter business with France.. So your question should be answered provided same pilot propfiency

@KungCrister

Жыл бұрын

​@dreaminknight Everything was based on numbers on paper, as there was no Gripen E/F to test. But absolutely, the Gripen is by far the smallest aircraft, and therefore obviously has the shortcomings that a smaller aircraft has.

@59thfsaviation79

Жыл бұрын

The Draken is better than all! Seriously. The Draken is one of the most beautiful aircraft I've ever seen. Got to see one in Finland.

@diegof4p2

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaminknight Gripen is surely way cheaper than the others, something to consider as well.

It was great to hear our old friend Sven using his hammer to re-start the Viggen's engine again.

I missed the sound of good ol' Sven banging away at the engine with his hammer

I’ve missed Sven - good to see he’s back!

I'm a simple man I see compressor stall, I push the like botton

Brasil is actually replacing it's aged F-5s with the F-39 Gripen. Our budget for military equipment isn't big but from what I read it's a really good jet.

@drksideofthewal

Жыл бұрын

Unless you’re fighting someone with F-35s or J-20s Brazil should be fine.

@thiagorodrigues5211

Жыл бұрын

@@drksideofthewal none of these two was battle tested though..

@drksideofthewal

Жыл бұрын

@@thiagorodrigues5211 Neither has the Gripen to be fair. It’s one of the better 4th gen fighters based on specs though.

@simongeorge2505

Жыл бұрын

Brazil is getting the Gripen NG (Gripen E) which is a monster, every bit as good as the block 70 Vipers

@freddarau

Жыл бұрын

@@thiagorodrigues5211 the f-35 has kills to its name. The Gripen does not.

I see you gave Sven in the engine compartment some meatballs just in time.

I remember giving Airfix model kits of both the Saab Viggen and Draken to a friend around 1972 so it's doing well considering it was probably designed in the sixties

How do you learn all these aspects of each aircraft? i mean i find it impressive you seem to not only be very good at aerial geometry but you also know the specs of each jet so cleanly. They way you talk about slowly picking them apart. Plus i always wonder is the vocal added after while reviewing the fight or is it all live while your flying and fighting? Never the less you are a most impressive pilot.

@robjones8733

Жыл бұрын

Dude is pretty amazing!

Finally we got both perspectives visible! Thanks 🙏 man

I was just thinking about your old videos with the Viggen and was about to re watch em. Good stuff GS ✌️🇦🇺

AJS stands for attack/jakt/spaning (attack/hunt/recon). Would be interesting to see the JA (hunt/attack) 37-D Viggen go up against the F15-C for instance.

@n.w.1803

Жыл бұрын

Did they end up calling the initial version 'AJS'? I only remember the initial AJ-37 (in the usual angular green camo pattern seen here), and SH- and SK- versions for recon and maritime strike. The JA- if I remember came a bit later on, with a more advanced air-air pulse doppler radar, more thrust (RM-8B) and engine reliability, Oerlikon cannon, and of course the relevant Sky Flash missiles...does DCS reproduce those features, I wonder?

@Mike_Romeo

Жыл бұрын

We sadly don't have that version for this sim

@mintman825

Жыл бұрын

​@@n.w.1803AJS was a later upgrade to the AJ variant

@n.w.1803

Жыл бұрын

@@mintman825 Oh, cool. Every time I lament that the world hasn't produced any new jet fighters for me to pore over for a while, I have to remember that good, kind Sweden has a whole family of them that I know very little about..

I’ve always Wanted this! Thank you!

The Vig actually spun apart! I have a new respect for the DCS damage model.

Never thought I would see the day an F-15 is the underdog in a dogfight. 😂😂😂

Sidebar question... are you prepping? Hope so. You're so intelligent and appear to be such a good person. Have enjoyed your channel for years.

It looks like the physics engine just had no idea what to do with the Viggen once it's wing was off, so it's next best thing was to just *explode*

That 3rd round kill was hilarious. Popping up like Hi, pew.

I missed hearing Sven banging on the engine

That viggin was shot so hard you isekaid it to an anime world where planes are involved.

Just my 2 cents: I'm glad you switched to flying the F15 once you saw the one-sidedness of the match-up. I've often wanted to see what happens when you switch planes like this and was thinking that in the future you could release 2 videos as a set; One with you in one plane and the next with you in the other. Twice as many videos with almost the same amount of work if you film them all in one session. It's the same idea that movie production companies have used when they already know there's going to be a part 3 (after the part 2 currently being filmed) so they film 2 and 3 at the same time and it saves a ton of time and money without sacrificing quality. You'd have the added advantage of not increasing the length of each individual video as well. I personally like then between 10 and 19 min I've noticed.

I thought round 2 was savage until I saw Vader looking back and seeing your shark-smile in round 3. You practically could have slapped him at that point.

6:20 - "Must've hit the powder magazines Cap'n!" Like lighting a firecracker.

Would be cool if they put in the upgraded viggen too! Where is sven?

I like the fact that you took the Ground Pounding Version of both Aircraft to do this

Swedish jet fighters with intermittent engine shutdown for that extra mileage, always ahead of the times

Amazing video as always; GS, maybe u can do an f14 vs f5E (cannons, with pics) It is stated that Chilean Pilots scored several kills in combat xs, and two f18s too.

@Mike_Romeo

Жыл бұрын

He already made that video multiple times. Use the KZread search bar befor requesting stuff that has already been made multiple times

Could the spontaneous explosion of the Viggen in the second fight have been because of the way his fuselage spun with what was likely high-g's after you hit him w/ your 20mm?

It's the exact example of "it's not about plane, it's about pilot".

You always tell us, "Fight YOUR fight not HIS fight." This opponent must not watch your channel to think he could go vertical with the F-15E.

@doncalypso

Жыл бұрын

He thought he could live up to the name of Vader and compensate for the Viggen's shortcomings with the Dark Side of the Force.

@mintman825

Жыл бұрын

You underestimate the power of that goofy airliner engine that the viggen has

@doncalypso

Жыл бұрын

"It's over, @@mintman825... the F-15 has the high ground!" --- Obi-Wan Kenobi ---

That last dogfight was one of the best and most intense edge-of-your-seat action I've seen. Love your stuff!

Alternate title: F-15 with identity problems vs a Dorito from ikea

the Viggen is such an underrated aircraft

The Viggen just looks so cool though

I think Sven knocked too hard after you shot the Viggen.

Love the view from the opposing pilot at the end.

That use of the exploding clip over the replay always kills my sides bro

The Viggen flew the first time in 1967, F-15E flew the first time in 1986. Different planes different roles.

Glad to here that Sven is staying employed. @1:46

The squishy / splatter sound of when the pilot gets hit is both grosse-ish yet funny...

Would be really Interesting to see you doing a ground strike mission with Viggen

The Viggen is a cool old classic!

His name is Vader. We all knew he was gonna burn at the end...

I wonder how the F-15E would do against a P-51 or spitfire.

@Schnittertm1

Жыл бұрын

Probably either go into the vertical, where the props have a huge problem of following or stay away with the superior T/W ratio. Although we do know that, if you make a mistake, even a prop can kill a 4th or even 5th gen jet.

GS: guys welcome back to another video. VIGGEN: compressor stall just in case.

That's the first time I ever seen someone blow up randomly after a gun kill 👀

Bro that midair explosion was VIOLENT

I really like the "other pilot's perspective" thing.

Compressor stall? No that's Sven in the back trying to kick the engine to start.

I would love to see more of the Viggen! Maybe a strike mission, or Viggen vs Typhoon?

That round 2 finale reminded me of old arcade simulators where enemies did't fall down after being shot, but just exploded

You are such a good teacher. Just natural at it...

OK that viggen blowing up was badass.

Poor Vader - first you blew him up, then you shot him in the face.

I am really enjoying this f15 videos, it's my fav of all time.

The kill in round two, at least the pilot was still ejected 😂.

The Force was *_NOT_* strong with Lord Vader today... 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 He gets an "A for Effort" though.

6:17 When Sven kicks the engine too hard

Enemy pilot cooks like a popcorn. GS: huehuehuehue

I wish DCS would.make the Jakt version of Viggen

Excellent video as usual. Sorry I couldn't help but giggle because every time you said "Viggen" I heard "vegan"... Sorry non native english... 😅

OOooh Fireworks! A little late for fourth of July, but never the same AAAhhh lol

I can't avoid feeling sorry for Vader, he won't forget that explosion easily, neither those rounds directly on his head.......!

The F-15E is 20 years younger than the Viggen. This is like pitting the Viggen against a F-86 Sabre.

Damn, well that viggen sure did turn into a firework on round 2... 😂

"Hey! Can someone out there get Sven a bigger hammer?"

love the content and would love to see more a10 after the f15 love what u do now keep it up!

Don't know how hard to get those enemy perspective shots are but I would love them to be a regular feature hehe.

Honestly i would LOVE to see some more F-22 dogfight ANY prop plane

Including the bandit pov ! ❤ Production level increase

You lit that viggen and it made beautiful fireworks

Would a little differential thrust and using the flaps like on the F-14 give the F-15E a little groove?

@TheOriginalFaxon

Жыл бұрын

I would assume he's using differential thrust already, he's commented several times that he just uses it whenever applicable now since he's gotten so used to doing it.

What's your process of finding someone to fight against? Have you flown against them before and they put up a decent challenge?

Sven gave it one last good whack in the engine block and BOOM

Taht salvo from the Eagle must've cooked off a missile on the Viggen or something, that was cool

Would be cool to see the Jaktviggen in DCS

the viggen is a true beauty

Great fight - thank you!

Exploded like a 4th of July mortar.

Wouldn't mind seeing a rematch with the fighter variant of the Viggen. I believe the one he os fighting is the attacker variant isnt it?

A fast, low-flying mission with the Bigger would be cool. Just to see what it's intended to do.

4:39 Them stabilizer is shakier than both my grandpa Knees 😅

For some reason at first I was thinking grippen and I was like damn he’s hating on the Swedes but I got it

Harrier vs Strike Eagle Dogfight GS evil laugh..damn lol

@stevemc6010

Жыл бұрын

Harrier would win except if the Mudhen uses speed + vertical But in close maneuvering I don't think the Harrier would even need to viff.

Sven is back! ♥ Aaaand then he explodes @6:17 ish . got to be careful with Sven. ;)

10:23 sounds like he's trying to back up his sky truck LOL