Exploring the systems of the ATR 42 600 in Microsoft Flight Simulator

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In the absence of any official documentation covering what is simulated, and what is not in the ATR family of aircraft in Microsoft Flight Simulator, it falls on the community to "figure things out". Hopefully this helps a few people along the way :)
Today we walk through a circuit of Stansted Airport - starting the aircraft from cold and dark, programming the flight, trying out LNAV and VNAV, managing the throttle, configuring the autopilot, using ILS, and finally performing a landing. We also look into the various EFIS display modes, and the data available while in-flight.
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  • @rickharriss
    @rickharriss6 ай бұрын

    Having watched a lot of ATR videos I find yours clearer and more informative than the others. Many thanks for your time.

  • @williamnesbitt9076
    @williamnesbitt9076 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou ever so much. Without guys like you, we numties would be totally lost.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @cliffordspackman1907
    @cliffordspackman1907 Жыл бұрын

    Learning to fly the ATR off your excellent videos. Appreciate you are taking the time to step in to cover the current lack of a manual.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    There's actually an official set of KZread videos now (a day late!) with a real ATR pilot demonstrating it. Check out the official Microsoft Flight Simulator channel. Of course as is typical the pilot is showing but not explaining anything :)

  • @pilot_paul42
    @pilot_paul42 Жыл бұрын

    You can get the fuel in KG. You need to change this in MSFS under General Options > MISC > Units of measurement and change to 'METRIC SYSTEM' You can then change the EFB in the ATR to read KG as well. Hope this helps

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You can switch the aircraft in the EFB too. Also - finally discovered the FOB is in one of the EFIS displays too :)

  • @berylshard
    @berylshard Жыл бұрын

    16:10 For the MFD clickspots the EFB has "display clickspot help" to show you what/where the clickspots are. They look to be designed to emulate the buttons on the center console in an attempt to save you the trouble from having to move the camera back and forth between the buttons and screen, something that probably isn't as troublesome in real life.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes - I spotted that earlier - I was trying to show the "real" functionality in the video :) There's quite a lot hidden in this plane, isn't there :)

  • @brainflight7144
    @brainflight7144 Жыл бұрын

    You feel like you're being taken by the hand, so that something new can't deter you. Thank you - as always, it was a great pleasure

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    There's no such thing as cannot - just new things that we don't know enough about yet :)

  • @shaundale46
    @shaundale46 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing Video, great to see how a real person does the flight instead of scripted nothing wrong. I love how you troubleshoot why things don't do what was expected. I can now finally fly the ATR comfortably after watching this thank you.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a journey :) I hate scripted videos that only show the happy route through everything :)

  • @CliveDavis-jp4eh
    @CliveDavis-jp4eh Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathon, Another helpful video. Just wanted to point out that ZFW is everything but the fuel so includes Empty Weight, Crew Weight and Payload (Pax & Baggage). All three are shown on the EFB so you just have to manually add them together. Also FOB (Fuel on BOARD) is shown on the right hand MFD.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know - thank you.

  • @rohitvishalkumar
    @rohitvishalkumar6 ай бұрын

    This works man. Finally able to get an ATR off the ground. 😅

  • @conlethbyrne4809
    @conlethbyrne4809 Жыл бұрын

    I have noticed that you do a fine job of explaining the little details that matter & for that & more, Thank you. The fact you are also an excellent Pilot also helps. Slainte, Jonathan 👍

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers

  • @CrashEd1664
    @CrashEd1664 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. One thing I’ve found when setting up the FMC, when inputting ZFW, FOB and GW, there’s a handy shortcut whereby you can press & hold the LSKs (1-3L) for a second or so and it will automatically fill the field in without having to type the data.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Great shout!

  • @CrashEd1664

    @CrashEd1664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett no probs! I also forgot to mention that there are some handy click spots on the PFD/ND screens that allow you to switch between modes. This is often more useful than leaning back and using the physical buttons on the centre console. There’s a guide on the setting me page of the EFB that explains where they are 👍

  • @DEFkon001

    @DEFkon001

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice. The EFB also lets you switch the plane from kg to lbs if you want.

  • @bpilot1992
    @bpilot1992 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and helped a lot to get me started. Thanks

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @GulfCoastTim
    @GulfCoastTim Жыл бұрын

    As i've quickly realized last night, there's quite a bit to learn about this plane. However, i'm totally enjoying it. There's plenty enough plane here for me.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    It's great!

  • @jip5873
    @jip5873 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another useful video, Jonathan! You can scroll/tick through the checklist with clicking in the empty bar, left of the checklist. There are 3 (hidden) clickspots. There is an overview of clickspots in the EFB.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep - I was trying to keep to "real world" functions as much as possible :)

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 Жыл бұрын

    They claimed that they were working on this for years and it is a hot mess..because of lack of documentation. Boing pulled that crap on it’s pilots and a lot of people got killed. I figured Asobo would be the highest standard and it just does not come up to the mark. It is the last plane I will buy from them until they work out their bugs. But thank you for helping. You are a great communicator!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    It has some minor bugs here and there - but overall I think it's very good. The lack of documentation is common across most of the aircraft in the simulator. Heh - maybe I should start writing books ?

  • @muhammadnimji4626
    @muhammadnimji4626 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Jonathan! This was good!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @muhammadnimji4626

    @muhammadnimji4626

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett Can the Asobo flight plan be used on this aircraft.?

  • @simonargent62
    @simonargent62 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video....10/10

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers :)

  • @IanBrodiePhoto
    @IanBrodiePhoto Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. Thank you.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @jean-paulrederik4203
    @jean-paulrederik4203 Жыл бұрын

    At minute 29:58 you can see (top left) the old Ridgewell Airfield. It was a Class A heavy bomber airfield from the Second World War. In the 1990s it became farmland again.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic

  • @ferrabras
    @ferrabras Жыл бұрын

    You should check the manual for the old Flight1 ATR. I used tj love this plane. Actually I decided to try MSFS after release of this ATR. And also I have more spare time😅. I reactivated my FSECONOMY account and started readapting to MSFS. From what I remember you needbto set TO from CRZ when you are at final approach. Great video.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Since the New Zealand ATR pilot released the videos on the official MSFS account, the fog has lifted :)

  • @karlossargeant3872
    @karlossargeant3872 Жыл бұрын

    I hope that MSFS2020 will add more systems for the ATR42-600 And ATR72-600 Series of Turboprops also Bug Fixes needs to be looked at properly but that will come on a later date Awesome Video Man!!!!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess they have to aim for the middle of the market, rather than the top 2% that want full systems fidelity :)

  • @flyc3
    @flyc3 Жыл бұрын

    Loving learning the ATR with your videos - nice pace and finding out things as you/we go along. Pretty certain the ATR doesn't have spoilers but I'm sure someone will correct me. Think the new STOL one will though.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm about to re-record, using the new reference materials to correct the ordering :)

  • @sasapopovic8079
    @sasapopovic8079 Жыл бұрын

    Great one. Only thing missing is using the prop brake system and hotel mode, and you'll have complete ATR tutorial😊

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha - I may do a video showing that startup sequence - the method to use when you have no external power available :)

  • @sasapopovic8079

    @sasapopovic8079

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jonbeckett yeah, but it's in standard checklists, so it's worth seeing it. Nice video again 😊

  • @eduardogranja6418
    @eduardogranja6418 Жыл бұрын

    you are awesome. thank you thank you thank you

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @wollaminfaetter
    @wollaminfaetter Жыл бұрын

    "There are two brains, we'll go for the one in England, it's obviously the right one". Haha.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @OpinionatedHuman
    @OpinionatedHuman Жыл бұрын

    FYI You don't need to uncage the battery switch, uncaging is only necessary for the ''OVRD" setting of that switch.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know - thank you

  • @mikecoffee100
    @mikecoffee100 Жыл бұрын

    Another Spot on Video deffo.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @brendanbeery6792
    @brendanbeery6792 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your work. Unfortunately I can't get the plane to move in cockpit view (it only moves when I'm in external or drone mode, then stops when I'm anywhere inside the plane). So it looks like I'm grounded, but thanks to you I do know how to start it. :)

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a bit of a weird one!

  • @Steevee5k
    @Steevee5k Жыл бұрын

    Your ZFW is not just the empty weight of the plane, you have to add the crew and payload weight as well.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep - I've corrected that in the checklist :)

  • @LuisArgerich
    @LuisArgerich Жыл бұрын

    Systems are nice but the flight model is wrong, the plane has no drag, it rotates on his own, can cruise with full flaps (at Idle!), is hard to slow down, floats on ground effect and the nose stays up like a jet fighter when rolling. Please take a look at those issues, being a very visible channel maybe that helps Asobo take notice and fix the drag model asap. Cheers!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine it will get fixed pretty quickly. Not apologising too much for Asobo - they tend to target their aircraft at the middle of the audience - which explains why they are always easy to fly. A bit like Carenado.

  • @pennywise5095

    @pennywise5095

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@jonbeckett shouldnt they just make it realistic? And maybey fhey could add option too ignore real flightmodel its not that middle ground players will use all those systems and then want some easy flightmodel

  • @hot00head00red

    @hot00head00red

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully theirs an update, Veers off to the left a bit, no speed brakes, no reverse thrust, descent plane but needs updates!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hot00head00red Erm... the real thing has no speed brakes. It DOES have reverse pitch. And the veer to the left is accurate (torque + pfactor + slipstream)

  • @hot00head00red

    @hot00head00red

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett sorry I thought for sure the real plane had speed brakes, plus the plane veering off to the right didn’t know that was a normal thing for that plane, i know some prop planes do that when giving thrust to take off but didn’t know it happens during flight too, thanks for information!

  • @SkyNeox
    @SkyNeox Жыл бұрын

    Hello, I am using airbus thrust master throttle and everything sounds good with it, I do not have any pedals so I am using Logitech yoke pro flight and the airbus joystick as axis Z to rotate the airplane, but I have steering issue especially during take off and landing and I always go our of runway, do you know a way I can set axis Z of the joystick as tiller only? then I have Logitech yoke for flight controls during the flight. thanks

  • @adrianubiaga5695
    @adrianubiaga5695 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathan! Thank you for your video! When I am during taaxi I cannot turn, always forward even I use my joystick to turn. Is there something I am missing? I can see pedals are moving, but no response. Thank you so much for your help!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Hydraulics ?

  • @anbrod1
    @anbrod1 Жыл бұрын

    Cheers.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome :)

  • @pedroillanes7450
    @pedroillanes7450 Жыл бұрын

    Does somebody know hot to make the plane turn when I put autopilot? It just go straight

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    Press HDG on the master control panel for the autopilot, then turn the knob to move the heading bug on the EFIS display (the monitor in front of the pilot).

  • @VlRUSOFFICIAL
    @VlRUSOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

    Is the plane supposed to move in idle with no parking brake or chocks set? Mine does and I dont know if its because of the throttle calibration or because thats how prop planes are.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    With the propeller condition set to auto, and no brakes, there is a positive amount of thrust at idle.

  • @VlRUSOFFICIAL

    @VlRUSOFFICIAL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett okay thanks!

  • @oliverbradley4939
    @oliverbradley4939 Жыл бұрын

    does the atr even have speedbrakes but an absoulute brill vid again keep up the good content

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought it might - but I'm not sure. I need to look into it more.

  • @Leturane

    @Leturane

    Жыл бұрын

    No it isnt, but when you idling the throttles the props itself are more than enough as a drags also the 100%/OVRD on the CL do help in slow down the plane as well.

  • @bryfly737
    @bryfly737 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathon flying with P3D i see tour NZ scenery outstanding does it come in one package ? I heard the msfs 2020 has good scenery but yours is awsome

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're seeing the stock NZ scenery that comes for free with MSFS. It is part of the recent "World Update 12".

  • @bryfly737

    @bryfly737

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett makes me want to txfer to 2020 fromp3d just for the scenery

  • @philipfoster7269
    @philipfoster7269 Жыл бұрын

    Don't know if you've got any ideas but the yolk doesn't move in mine when I move my controller.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    gust lock.

  • @mikaelstix7721
    @mikaelstix7721 Жыл бұрын

    Can you help me please so when I fly with the ATR 72 I hear every time a warning sounds which gets on my nerves how can I turn it off

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    If you follow the checklist, you'll be fine - I imagine the warning is either configuration, OR you're overspeeding.

  • @reason6835
    @reason68359 ай бұрын

    For some reason I lose electrical power if the engines are in idol. Battery is on, external power disconnected, fuel pumps are on, generators on, hydraulic power on. After about 10-15 seconds at idol, electric power cuts off and the "ACW Bus Off" lights come on. If I move the thrust levers out of idol everything goes back to normal. This doesn't happen in the ATR-72. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    9 ай бұрын

    When the engines are at idle, the generators don't generate enough power (it's probably a bug)

  • @reason6835

    @reason6835

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jonbeckett: Okay. So it’s not me then. Thank you so much!

  • @user-vw3xl4dw6h
    @user-vw3xl4dw6h Жыл бұрын

    Hello friend how are you? Does anyone know how to calibrate the ATR of MSFS2020 with Saitek pro flight yoke system with throttle quadrant?

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    No - sorry - I don't have a Saitek Pro

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a problem with FS2020 at the moment (17.30hrs 1st May 2023 - UK time). My sim failed to synchronise data today. Restarted FS2020 ok. However some of m aircraft are no longer seen in FS2020 - Fenix A320, FBW A320, Just Flight Hawk T 1 and the ATR42. The ATR 42 is no longer visible in the FS2020 Market place. FS2020 was working ok yesterday. Is this just a problem for me or is it a wider FS2020 problem?

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I've not had any issues.

  • @jjsmallpiece9234

    @jjsmallpiece9234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett Thanks. I restarted my computer/FS2020 again and it worked OK. Not sure what the problem was.

  • @Squirel
    @Squirel Жыл бұрын

    So, from the stupid question department :: if I create a full flight plan in LittleNavMap, sabe it as a .pln file and then load that file in the sim, do I still need to enter it into the FMS?

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I think so. I don't think the simulator flight plan is compatible with the FMC.

  • @TuffGnarl
    @TuffGnarl Жыл бұрын

    I think the FMS flight plan system is a bit broken. I’ve found that if you put in an airway it often seems to duplicate the waypoints in that airway several times. Which brings me to my question. Is there an easy way to delete entire flight plans? Haha.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    DON'T USE AIRWAYS lol - there's a serious bug in it :)

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    If the FMS is not completely borked by putting an airway in, go back to MENU, INIT, and over-write the departure/destination - it wipes the route.

  • @TuffGnarl

    @TuffGnarl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett Awesome, I’ll bear that in mind in future. I’ve since discovered that if you select airways via the soft-keys rather than typing them in to the scratch pad, the problem doesn’t occur.

  • @luismartepr
    @luismartepr Жыл бұрын

    Im suffering I can’t put my in LNAV every time I do it goes back to HDG SEL by itself

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You must have a discontinuity in your flight plan.

  • @luismartepr

    @luismartepr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett how do I fix it?

  • @AdminVortex762
    @AdminVortex762 Жыл бұрын

    I used the control profile from the BAe 146 for this (duplicated) but I can’t get various things to work. I used to have HDG bug and Altitude bug selector on a coolie switch but they don’t work with the ATR. Neither does the autopilot Alt or HDG hold. VS doesn’t work either. Any ideas because this one has lost me big time!

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    I've not tried using any of the built-in mappings yet. I tend to use the controls in the cockpit on most aircraft.

  • @AdminVortex762

    @AdminVortex762

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonbeckett I've since discovered that you can't set keybinds for even basic things like Increment Heading Bug or Heading Hold or Altitude Hold. Can you believe it was released like this? :(

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdminVortex762 Doesn't really effect me - I use the cockpit buttons in the aircraft :)

  • @gretchenpittman8303
    @gretchenpittman8303 Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry 😞 I can’t figure out the flight computer…

  • @TrueBlade-1889
    @TrueBlade-1889 Жыл бұрын

    Why the heck is this the only plane where you get rid of the ugly efb ?

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 Жыл бұрын

    Where does the ATR take its livery markings from? I'm trying to get a Loganair livery to work. I have installed it in the following location C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community This is where all my FBW A320 liveries are located, which work ok with the A320. However the ATR doesn't pick up its liveries from here or the Lognair livery I have doesn't work - as another possibility.

  • @jonbeckett

    @jonbeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    You're putting it in the right place. Make sure you don't have a folder in a folder.

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