Looks like you have it figured out!! Great Job!! (edit) Spoke to soon maybe....You didnt figure it out LOL

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m close, I think I have to make a couple small changes to make it work completely though.

Nice progress Adam!

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Coal!

Very cool, So many program options with the victron. I need to look up the Tigo. Hope you make a video on hooking that up. Thanks.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah that should all be coming up in the next video.

Looks like you’re close. I like the idea of having a complete disconnect for everything.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Your stuff has most of it all wired in doesn’t it? So you would just need a button?

@GavinStoneDIY

4 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 mostly yeah. I would need to add something to the PV.

I have a large 300amp Noark main battery breaker in our offgrid system and have seen Andy talk about you can install a small relay within them that can trigger the main breakers to trip a disconnect so in our case completely isolated power to the inverter / charger, I was thinking along the same lines as you by installing an emergency stop too as a safety feature, very interesting what those assistants can do tho, hi from downunder 🇦🇺🤙

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Howdy Alan! Yeah I’ve seen those before and have looked at getting a couple. Might still at some point because then I know everything is completely isolated from the batteries. Take care…from the frozen north! 🥶

Nice one bruh! Keep at it. Safety first👍 I like your way of thinking. Your setup is getting better every day. I'll take a look at the manuals and see if I can offer anything 😁Are you after and electronic shut down or total isolation? Cheers

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I know if I wanted to do a full system shut down, I could put in some shunt trip breakers on the batteries. Still an option if I want to go that route down the road and it would be an easy swap. Take care!

@OrganicPower-Australia

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, totally fail safe. And cost effective! You have me thinking I should hook up my breakers this way 🤔

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

@@OrganicPower-Australia Oh yeah! Do your DC breakers on your battery banks have a shunt-trip feature built in?

@OrganicPower-Australia

4 ай бұрын

Hey @AdamDeLay07. I’m checking with the supplier if relay modules can be added, it looks that way but not 100% sure. Hopefully I’ll know tomorrow. Have a good one, cheers!

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

@@OrganicPower-Australia Awesome! Let me know what you find out!

Shunt tripped breakers are an easy way to achieve total shutdown and will work with any setup regardless of brand of equipment. Push the button, DC is supplied to the trips and in one fell swoop all current sources - incoming solar, batteries, inverters, mains inputs, what ever you like - are disconnected. It's even possible to have the button remove DC and cause the trip with the right equipment giving a fail safe arrangement. A correct setup will have breakers/isolators in all these places already so it doesn't require a lot of duplication just breakers that have the option of a shunt trip and of course the trip units themselves. It doesn't require extensive wiring either as you can do feed type wiring, a single pair up to a location then fan out from there for the nearby breakers.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

That was actually where I was looking initially. Would have simplified quite a bit. I actually reached out to the company that makes and sells the Nader shunt trips but ultimately didn’t need to buy a “lot” of them.

Hi thanks for video, did you connected two push buttons already? If yes maybe you can make video how you wired 2 push buttons thank you

@AdamDeLay07

Ай бұрын

I haven't set it up yet. I'm thinking it should be just as simple as daisy chaining the two together and if any wire is broken, it shuts things down.

Is it in the event of the control wires getting broken, (fire damage, physical damage (broken) during the shutdown everything turns back on, without warning?

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Good guess, but that’s not it. Since the circuit in the video is normally closed, any damage to the wire would cause everything to disconnect. Thanks for being the first to take a stab at it though!

hey adam, is there a video of the safety precosions i have to maintain as a first time user of the victron system...cause 80% is clear but 20% still abracadabra...thnx for the video's !!!

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Not that I know of, sorry. I’ve just picked up a little here and there from my research…of course I can’t even guarantee what I’ve researched is correct though…

@roversberg

4 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 but if you switch of the inverters on the bottom switch, the system is still live?

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

@@roversberg the way I have things configured in the video, if I turn off the switch on the bottom of the inverters, the inverter shuts down, but not the PV. I want to be able to still charge my batteries if I have to turn off the inverters for maintenance.

Why not just replace the inverter on/off switch with a remote relay wired to your emergency button? Wire it so it fails open if the e-button wire is cut.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

That’s an option but usually manufacturers warranties frown on physical modification of the inverter. Plus that would make the only way for me to shut the system down is to hit he emergency stop, shutting everything down, not just the inverters.

I had one weird incident a few days ago, where my Victron inverter lost power and caused the electricity to almost go out and then it did it again in succession and then everything was fine? I had no loads on it at the time, so I couldn’t figure out why it was clicking, and then the power almost went out twice! There are no relays to anything, as it’s just a standard off grid system. It’s a 5000 Victron Quattro 48 V inverter

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Hmm, not sure. Might be worth asking the brain trust on the diysolarforum. I know that sunshine_eggo has some Quattros.

@Raphael_Hofmann

4 ай бұрын

Do a firmware update. If that does not fix it, dig deeper.

Speaking as somebody who doesn’t know anywhere near what you know, I would think that if you’re not home, the fireman or first responders are more likely just to pull down the disconnect switch first! The way I have mine setup, I would flip off my charge controllers on the breakers, then turn off my inverter, and then flip off the power switches on my batteries. For me, this wouldn’t take that long, and it’s a lot less complicated than what I see you’re doing. Seems to me, you’d have to have it all written out on a big sign for somebody who doesn’t know your system, which means to me, it would take longer than the way I would do it! But I can see where you’re coming from, I just don’t know if it’s safer in the end?

@davidb.5544

4 ай бұрын

Is all that you stated you would do easily accessible from someone outside like a fireman who doesn't know anything about your system? Furthermore you need a single "switch", not multiple steps that someone has to figure out.

@simon359

4 ай бұрын

@@davidb.5544 I would have one big sign stating each step. Turn off 1)Solar panel breakers, 2)inverter, 3)batteries.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

The problem is, first responders don’t have time to go through a shutdown procedure. Once I’m finished, they hit one red button and that’s it. No high voltage PV coming in the house, no AC being generated. In the event of an emergency, a little extra work and preparation on my end could save my house…

@simon359

4 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 The other problem I have, as I use a Mac and not a PC. This creates problems if I want to change any settings internally on the inverter.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

@@simon359 You can use Victron Connect to make changes to most basic settings on the inverter if you have a Mk3 to USB device. From my understanding, Victron is working on converting everything over to Victron Connect. It’s just taking time with the more advanced options.

Can I pick you brain on something. I was able to setup alot with help of your videos. I have a raspberry pi with a dual CAN ports. Can I connect the multi directly to the raspberry without the mk3 connector.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

The mk3 to usb I believe is only for programming the inverter (I could be wrong). Since the multiplus is VE Bus (not CAN), I believe you would still need some kind of adapter.

@pulith5220

4 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 i am currently using the mk3 with the raspberry pi but I thought that there would be an alternative method.

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

@@pulith5220 Yeah, I just saw that the mk3 to usb is the main VE Bus to USB device. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any other device you can use.

When the BMS turns off, it is still a deadlock 🙃

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

Very true, but my inverters shut down before the BMS does.

@retrozmachine1189

4 ай бұрын

If you ever do have to do a full start from dead, proper dark start, a single panel with a basic PWM charger will be sufficient to put enough charge into a battery to allow the main system to be bought up.

The floor is you have to keep your hand on the red button to keep it off

@AdamDeLay07

4 ай бұрын

The one I have is a locking button. Once you press it, it remains off until you twist it to reset it.

@OrganicPower-Australia

4 ай бұрын

All emergency stop buttons have a twist to release function (or similar) that only allows for a manual reset. Once pressed the NO contact remains open.

@OrganicPower-Australia

4 ай бұрын

Many industrial situations require a key to be inserted into the e-stop to unlock it for a reset.