“I’m trying forever, tie is not an option.” What a raw line. Damn.

@sewerdork6183

Жыл бұрын

And I honestly believe it. I’m afraid of him

@makronie9894

Жыл бұрын

5:25

@88porpoise

Жыл бұрын

It was true as he went on to show. And the length makes sense. Every time ABR attempted to make headway to winning, there was a risk that Tele guesses right and gets a big advantage. So the more time ABR put between such attempts, the less likely Tele was to predict it (and more likely to waste PP on failed predictions) and the more likely ABR was to win. ABR probably could have won a lot earlier if he went for it, but that would also increase his chances to lose.

@danyg5639

10 ай бұрын

@@88porpoiseplus with what I’ve seen from ABR in his other games he generally plays long safe games

@Diamond1234

10 ай бұрын

Man was determined.

This battle has more turns than my ELO rating

@darkflinch1258

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@Cristhian318

Жыл бұрын

Sad truth...

@stallempir3

Жыл бұрын

Lol same

@ijpete98

Жыл бұрын

How many turns DOES your ELO rating have though?

@boredpower7085

Жыл бұрын

@@ijpete98 999

Tele saying that ABR was just looking to delay the win as much as possible to keep him woke during an entire night when he was the one who brought a full stall team is the most ironic thing ive ever seen

@Tomix4k

Жыл бұрын

Followed by tele commenting "the battle drew so much interest because of the fact that one of the players, himself, is in fact one of the best players of this generation, and will be forever considered as such"; then followed by ABR becoming the best player in Smogon's history, and tele getting banned for being toxic.

@EsquireNapalm

Жыл бұрын

@@Tomix4k i can’t imagine being so self absorbed to describe yourself as such what the hell lmao

@AyenLogic

Жыл бұрын

@@EsquireNapalm nothing wrong with it when it's true

@Gabe413

Жыл бұрын

@@AyenLogic it wasnt true

@xic4589

Жыл бұрын

@@AyenLogic bro lied💀

The greatest competitive pokemon match of all time came down to who could 'drain the most pp'. Beautiful. Truly the greatest pp measuring contest of all time.

@zchaosemperor81

Жыл бұрын

Ayo what 🤨

@BigCrashNoSmash

Жыл бұрын

Most appropriate pun EVER!

@megamillion5852

Жыл бұрын

@@zchaosemperor81 Better get that PP Up.

@serhumano3692

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it was very cool seeing ABR draining Tele's pp

@MirageUchiha

Жыл бұрын

You've one the internet.

“I’m trying forever, tie is not an option” Such sheer will and determination, dang

@thomaspearce9222

Жыл бұрын

such a fucking raw line, abr is my new hero

@raccoon3440

Жыл бұрын

based abr

@chefoli2130

Жыл бұрын

Honestly one of the coldest lines I've ever heard And it came from a Showdown match ☠️

@kylecote7261

Жыл бұрын

Ash Ketchum moment

@handletemplate

Жыл бұрын

"We will not accept less than a full victory."

ABR is the protagonist of his own anime. Out-stalls the villain of the community in a 1287-turn game without using a pure stall team like him, ends up becoming the greatest of all time while Tele malds and copes only to end up perma-banned. Absolute legend.

@ThemightyTho

Жыл бұрын

Tele malded and coped so hard

@gunkygod4031

Жыл бұрын

Ctc still better

@nok9355

Жыл бұрын

this

@ThePhoenix1

Жыл бұрын

@@gunkygod4031 you know ball

@jamescarrotcsl8

Жыл бұрын

Then he had to fuck with sleep clause for no reason

I remember when this game was live. Smogon Twitter had tweeted out a link to the match, but then after like 500 turns in they replied to their own tweet with something along the lines of: "actually, nevermind - stay as far away from this match as humanly possible" I nearly died laughing when I saw that

@Gyrowo

Жыл бұрын

.

@onion_____

Жыл бұрын

Wow so funny

@ActuallyDeath

Жыл бұрын

*I confirm that OP nearly died laughing.*

@matkebaaz120

Жыл бұрын

@@ActuallyDeath yes I see his tombstone too

@ActuallyDeath

Жыл бұрын

@@annettenebiolo6962 *With **_that_** profile picture you have there, I don't really think you can comment on **_us_** being cringe.*

I was facing a guy with a full stall team, and I had a full ditto team. He said boring at one point, and I was like, it's your team, it's your fault if you are bored. That has the same energy as that guy saying ABR was stalling for time

@rainwaiv

11 ай бұрын

stall players complaining about games taking too long is so funny to me like it's your fault?? If you want games to end don't play stall

@frozenfresh6406

11 ай бұрын

I played a defensive mega scissor team with ditto vs a heavy stall once that lasted until my ditto PP stalled a victory and took about 400 turns. I did not enjoy.

@doggerlander

8 ай бұрын

nah bro, ditto teams fucking suck

@mirroredrealities1639

8 ай бұрын

"My brother in christ, you made the team"

@CaulkMongler

5 ай бұрын

Definition of “well well well. If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.”

imagine being the staff member who was moderating for that battle, sitting in front of you monitor for at least an hour watching endless switching.

@classonbread5757

Жыл бұрын

They have to submit replays, the mods don't *need* to be there at all times.

@darthhydreigon820

Жыл бұрын

it was 8 hours pretty sure . That is what i heard was the length of the game. Since u heard tele complaining he needed to go somewhere

@zad_rasera

Жыл бұрын

An hour is an understatement.

@sephikong8323

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't just "1 hour" lmao

@matlohn9381

Жыл бұрын

An hour? Lol

"ABR would go on to become the greatest player of all time, and unfortunately tele would go on to get permanently banned from smogon for issues related to harassment and trolling. He has not been seen since" ABR sent him to the shadow realm lmao

@asterlofts1565

Жыл бұрын

Although it is called Tele and is based on a "light" Pokémon that is Tapu Lele (Psychic/Fairy). He (Tele) really deserved to lose because he was too arrogant, rude, vain, annoying for no reason, somewhat hypocritical, selfish, narcissistic and self-centered.

@of5606

Жыл бұрын

Deserved

@josh1068

Жыл бұрын

undeserved

@ChocolateSoda1

Жыл бұрын

How good was ABR actually?

@DkKobaADV

Жыл бұрын

@@ChocolateSoda1 he's extremely smart across many tiers, i see him around adv community, he always knows what he's talking about when it comes to mons. I don't know about his competitive skill but his skill on paper is clear just from seeing him talk about mons

This reminds me of the story behind the deck size limit for Yu-Gi-Oh because a pair of guys shows up at a tournament with the thickest stack of cards and played search effects. It is hilarious how Smogon did not see this coming. For the 'love' of competition, people will commit public displays of insanity.

@gsgaming6976

Жыл бұрын

lol I think I remember hearing about that. Wasn't that deck carried in in like a 6 foot+ long case or something?

@megasora4

Жыл бұрын

@@gsgaming6976 the deck itself contained 2222 cards with mostly search to waste as much time as possible when they needed to shuffle, it took 2 people to carry it, though you could fit it on 3 shoulders (4 if you packed it in.) the deck itself played 1-2 rounds before they were asked to drop out due to how unmanageable the deck was.

@gsgaming6976

Жыл бұрын

@@megasora4 Yeah, I saw a video on it. It was really funny. I was mostly concerned with how long the thing was laid out end to end. I'm probably misremembering, but in my mind's eye it was like, as tall as a person or more when laid out end to end.

@unixtreme

Жыл бұрын

That's why in magic the rule used to be deck can be as big as you want as long as you can properly shuffle without assistance.

@CantusTropus

Жыл бұрын

IIRC, the guys who did that were judges themselves and were essentially trolling and/or testing the limits of the rules.

"No one is entirely represented by their worst moments." That's a gem. Thank you.

@GameMasterWLC

Жыл бұрын

Ikr that line took me out of an already great video and I wanted to appreciate it.

@Bluerock121

Жыл бұрын

I mean that’s definitely true, but if a person consistently cusses others out for losing at Pokémon, it’s probably indicative of their character lol

@Fritz_Haarmann

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluerock121 Weeeeellll....

@lighting7508

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluerock121 true but I’m a believer in growth 🔥

@FrenkTheJoy

Жыл бұрын

Hitler and Jack the Ripper shouldn't be defined by their worst moments, then.

The best battle of all time was definitely the ubers match with the Arceus Flying named “Arceus Steel”

@yashdeepjha845

Жыл бұрын

That was indeed hilarious

@arpansahoorollno.-2765

Жыл бұрын

I use it....

@icypenguin-bs1587

Жыл бұрын

do u have a link to that?

@toluroluga1539

Жыл бұрын

Link?

@ENCHANTMEN_

Жыл бұрын

Or the guy who brought a Mega Charizard Y plushie to a competitive event only to use Mega Charizard X

Tele saying it was completely unnecessary switching and simultaneously spraining his arm jerkin himself off as "one of the best players of this generation" proves to me that the 1000+ turns were completely required to beat him. Or at least deserved. He chose the playstyle, he slowed the game down in the first place. It was in ABR's best interest to wait for an opening and in Tele's to avoid giving him one.

@XenithShadow

Жыл бұрын

It was in everyone's best intrest for ABR to force stealth rock's since as already established zapdos can't do anything to clebable due to the whole needing it's pp to kill skarmory thing. Unless that was actually part of his plan and it never came to fruition due to a lucky freeze on zapdos.

@xakuray5522

Жыл бұрын

ABR : it wasn't about winning anymore, it was about sending a message!

@classonbread5757

Жыл бұрын

That bit was clearly a joke tho

@isaacmillen8789

Жыл бұрын

If Tele really thought it was BM then he must have thought that a win for ABR was inevitable, so Tele should have just resigned in that case.

@ThePiotrekpecet

Жыл бұрын

The man brought stall and he's the one to complain about the turn counter lol

Not only did he smoke his ass in almost 1300 turns, but did so resulting in a 6-0

"Hostile armies may face each other for years, striving for the victory which is decided in a single day." - Sun Tzu

@focidhomophobicii2426

Жыл бұрын

"Did i say that?" - also Sun Tzu

@BlackArche0ps

Жыл бұрын

Wait that is an actual Sun tzu quote lol

@yourfriendlyemperor

Жыл бұрын

"I shitted my pants" - Sun Tzu... probably

@nightstorm5914

Жыл бұрын

"And Soldier is the best at fights and also very cool." - Sun Zoo

@BlackArche0ps

Жыл бұрын

@@annettenebiolo6962 I don’t think it’s a kid

Fun series. I wouldn't mind you going over other 'famous' battles like this.

@mort3562

Жыл бұрын

If you don't mind more in depth analyses, BKC has some really good videos on big battles

@asterlofts1565

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@shironasama0445

Жыл бұрын

Moxie Garchomp sweeps 11 Pokémon Assist V create shenanigans

@dabmonstr7403

Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a vid like it on the famous pachirisu game too

@KenNywithrice

Жыл бұрын

I would actually subscribe for more of those, I'm only subbed to freezai Live lol

I love that teles compliant was that abr was just making the game needlessly long to make him stay up all night, when thats exactly what his strategy was, using a stall team

"How come Doubles became the main format for completive Pokemon?" It's a question I've heard a lot in the Pokemon community... I think this game perfectly answers that question.

@rouvoby1223

Жыл бұрын

Doubles are not only faster paced, but require more strategy. It works out perfectly for official Pokémon tournaments

@Peashooter521

Жыл бұрын

@@rouvoby1223 only half of that is true

@panwp123

Жыл бұрын

@@rouvoby1223 they dont. They require different kinds of strategy.

@diablotry5154

Жыл бұрын

​@@panwp123 more strategy is definitely a valid thing to say when you have double the pokemon and exponentially more strats to consider as a result

@panwp123

Жыл бұрын

@@diablotry5154 you dont have double the pokemons. You have double the pokemons ON THE FIELD. Over the course of a game you can even say to have less pokemon, with only 4 per team. Which is different. That distinction is inportant. There surely are tons of strategies that can be only employed in that format, no doubt. But there are also tons of strategies that can be only deployed in 6v6 singles. The entire concept of hazard control for example, a giant part of the game is just gone in VGC. The idea of a stall team is just unviable in vgc, yet thrives in 6v6 singles to the point that you can build team dealing almost exclusively passive damage.

ABR is like an anti-hero. Not someone you'd normally root for, but you still want to see him take down the villain

@eavyeavy2864

Жыл бұрын

the world will forget europe doThe idea of fighting nazi was "if we defeat Axis, who do both genocide on Africa and colonize the world, the world will forget that europe Ally also do the same as well

@joaquimrietveld8297

Жыл бұрын

Why? Is abr some kinda bad dude as well?

@pooppooper9033

Жыл бұрын

@@joaquimrietveld8297 Apparently he also trash talks a bunch, just to a lesser extent.

@AnarchoTak

Жыл бұрын

@@pooppooper9033 tbh what Smogon player isn't a trash talking asshole? lol.

@SirCanuckelhead

Жыл бұрын

Strange, I read elsewhere in this vid that abr became the top smogon player while tele got banned for being toxic.

Ironic how, in that forum post after the battle, Tele said "the game drew so much interest because i'm one of the best players of this generation and will be forever considered as such", only for him to later get banned and for his opponent to become the GOAT lmao

@henriquepacheco7473

Жыл бұрын

RIght? Poetic justice doesn't even begin to cover it.

@PhantomThiefXI

Жыл бұрын

Modern ozymandias

@eisaranderee610

Жыл бұрын

Surprised he didn’t talk about how humble he is

@hendeyjagger7489

Жыл бұрын

and his Team loses to Clefairy.

man, imagine trying to stall your opponent for almost 1300 turns and in the end losing with your opponent still having their six pokémons

@unfunniestman

10 ай бұрын

the power of regenerator

Having Slowpoke and Slowbro as my favorite pokemons, i'm proud that one played a part in this legendary game.

@ravingtac0896

11 ай бұрын

Same, my fav mon for sure

@tysondennis1016

11 ай бұрын

Fellow Slowbro fan

great vid. the fact that abr ended a 1000+ game without losing a single mon makes him a legend to me

@grmancool

Жыл бұрын

with balance no less. you'd expect that in stall v stall

@nept5281

Жыл бұрын

I personaly think that just makes him a really boring player😂

@itzzerovoltage

Жыл бұрын

@@nept5281 splash splash your opinion is trash ABR 👑

@natecgames4612

Жыл бұрын

As a non competitive player, i think it's even more impressive that he didn't lose a single one even after his garchomp was poisoned

@wezen89

Жыл бұрын

@@nept5281 You still don't understand the beauty of it after watching this video huh smh

I love learning about this battle and the “where are they now” for the players at the end was HILARIOUS! Would love to see more of this!!

@TaigaPalm

Жыл бұрын

I died laughing when he said tele got perma banned and hasn’t been heard from since

@bigdub911

Жыл бұрын

reply 2

An absolutly amazing example of Game Theorie in Action. The Players knew exactly that every aggressive move would be worse then Defensive (Switch) No move became the best move for both Players. But ABR found a way to force his opponent to make a move (one may even call it "Zugzwang") which truly Shows the competetive understanding he has. And it resulted in a very deserved win

That’s one of the most unexpected yet hilarious endings to a true story I’ve ever heard. The guy everyone hates gets banned and disappears from social media, losing to a guy who’d go on to become THE greatest trainer of all time 😂

Imagine getting potentially 6-0ed in a 1.2k+ game 😂

This battle reminds me a lot of the Delinquent Duo in Yugioh, a pair of players who brought a 2000+ card deck to a tournament with the intent of stalling out the opponent until they run out of cards to draw. In turn inspiring the 60 card limit for the main deck as to avoid another situation like such

@redkite1908

Жыл бұрын

In that case, the 2000 card deck was entirely intentional to showcase the need for such a rule, iirc. Whilst here, it was rather more a result of people doing what they felt they had to do to win, and the limitations of the game being shown as a result.

@megasora4

Жыл бұрын

actually the intent of the 2222 card deck was to waste as much time as possible during the shuffling (hence it being mostly search cards.) it just happened to do more good as a result by forcing them to make a cap on how many cards you can run.

@acevardon3094

Жыл бұрын

@@megasora4 no the main goal was to cause the rule to be put in place, the duo were official judges of the game who wanted a rule set in place

@megasora4

Жыл бұрын

@@acevardon3094 Every source i can find on the 2222 card deck supports my claim and even the owner of the decks twitter claimed their goal was to "waste as much time as possible." you are right that both were judges, but they did not enter the tournament with a goal other then some friendly trolling, wich they only played 2 games before being asked to back out. in the end, what matters is the end result as without the change to the rules, their just guys who brought a large and annoying deck.

@TheRoboKitty

Жыл бұрын

Similar issues plague the Smash Bros series. Viewers demand fast-paced, combo-heavy matches and LOATHE defensive strategies, but these defensive strategies are extremely powerful and will take over the meta given the chance. This is why so many stages get banned (large stages allow Fox and Sonic to run away, any any stage with hazards allows one player to camp and fish for grabs) and why Brawl took such a beating from the Melee fans (Meta Knight can camp in the air spamming down-airs or Tornado waiting for his opponent to trip)

Banning something slow is an interesting concept for competitive games. My point of reference is Magic: The Gathering where Sensei's Divining Top was banned largely because it made every single round at large enough tournaments go to time. It's a good strategy and didn't break the metagame but it was tossed out just to make everyone's tournament experience better.

I’d love to see more videos like this. I always love hearing about the crazy stories that emerge from different gaming communities

I remember watching this live in a Discord call. Probably one of the most insane things I've ever seen

@decodedbunny101

Жыл бұрын

A showdown server?!

@bidoofapostle8910

Жыл бұрын

@@decodedbunny101 yeah pretty sure there is a smogon server. It's a lot less fun than it sounds though from my experience.

@sapnupua5

Жыл бұрын

the whole thing?!

@LordLucario12

Жыл бұрын

@@sapnupua5 Whole thing

@LordLucario12

Жыл бұрын

@@decodedbunny101 It was in a private call with a friend. WE followed Smogon Tours

this video also helps show why entry hazards, while a contentious mechanic, are so important for a the health of the Metagame: by punishing switching you prevent scenarios where the best tactic is to just constantly switch, while doing nothing yourself.

@Whodjathink

Жыл бұрын

unless you have 2 regenerators as he also showed in the vid

@toast2492

Жыл бұрын

Yeah hazards r such an important mechanic and so useful especially against moms that r weak to it

@chrismanuel9768

Жыл бұрын

Every there's literally mechanics that negate entry hazards, so really they're just annoying for most players

@natsusatsujinki8342

Жыл бұрын

This. Sticky web 🕸 stealth rock 🪨 spikes toxic spikes. I've sacrificed half my team a few times to set hazards and bank on a blitzing glass cannon.

@mr.cauliflower3536

Жыл бұрын

Which is why I hate magic bouncers on randbats

"It becomes very clear that the game would not be about getting the most damage, but draining the most PP" I spat out my drink

@myname9704

Жыл бұрын

Drinking milk lmao

This match is the kind of match I love playing in, and mad respect for playing out those 1287 turns. This video also offers an amazingly good explanation of the nuances to competitive pokemon, where these tiny advantages many people wouldn't see play out.

I remember seeing a OU ladder match around the same time with maybe 60 people watching. Went to turn 1362 I think. Was absolutely insane to watch and people lost their minds when slowbro mega’d on turn 1290

@octopuswithahat

Жыл бұрын

You got any idea where I could see that?

@xcyanidegamerx4402

Жыл бұрын

link?

@awesomalityness

Жыл бұрын

Got the link saved on my old laptop which bricked a few months ago 🥲 it only exists in memory now

@NG_v1

Жыл бұрын

​@@awesomalityness rip, my guy For both; the link and the laptop

@mugiwaraLux

Жыл бұрын

Imagine not using your Mega for 1300 moves till you had the board set for the Slowsweep

This game really feels like a chess endgame. You only have a few moves to make, and you can take potentially hundreds of turns converting a mere pawn advantage/positional advantage into an eventual checkmate.

@TheOneWhoHasABadName

Жыл бұрын

it’s worse than that; at least in chess, endgames that can be converted by humans don’t last that long. For cases that aren’t as clear cut, the 50-move rule (which was added to pokemon in some way after this painful game), threefold repetition, and time controls will eventually force things. This feels like that mate in 549 moves found with the 7-piece tablebase, except it’s not gibberish to humans and is actually playable. And someone decided to play it out in full in a tournament game, with time controls that don’t drop increment entirely.

@airam1721

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOneWhoHasABadName what's the 50 move rule

@TheOneWhoHasABadName

Жыл бұрын

@@airam1721 if 50 moves have passed without any piece capture or pawn moved, the game is drawn

@Paulo27

Жыл бұрын

The big difference is that in chess you have a static team, here you have a million.

@TheOneWhoHasABadName

Жыл бұрын

@@Paulo27 the resulting endgame is not static (board position also matters a lot) for pawnless complex endgames, the best way to attack or defend is not often clear. even for simple endgames like king and queen vs king and rook, novice players may find the winning method unintuitive

ABR going into the top of the hall of fame whilst Tele becomes completely obsolete is one of the most incredible outcomes I have ever seen. ABR is always determined to win, no matter the cost, and that mindset just brings a massive advantage.

Really liked this video! You did a great job with pacing and word choice here as everything was explained clearly and without repetition, and as a long time spectator of competitive Pokemon this kind of video is what I love to see!

3:54 “It becomes very clear that the game would not be about getting the most damage, but draining the most pp”🤨

@littleDainolf

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a Hentai.

@tavi7808

Жыл бұрын

ayo

@peyton713

Жыл бұрын

He said that in such a weird way I can't believe was an accident

@Hann1balx9

Жыл бұрын

4:50 "as long as pp is consumed there is some progress being made"

@Renvaar1989

Жыл бұрын

At my age every battle is a battle to drain my PP

Freezai we NEED a series talking about some big events in the history of smogon. As someone who never played competitively but always liked watching, i would be giddy if I saw more vids like this in my sub box/suggested

@madman4043

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. SOMALIA jellicent meltdown, anyone?

@gratedshtick

Жыл бұрын

Energy ball for the win

@tejasradhakrishnan1164

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunate does not begin to describe

@ByrneBaby

Жыл бұрын

We need competitive historians in general, man.

@oles9196

Жыл бұрын

Yes eventhough this one is a very special case it also allows unexperienced players an insight into the mindset CP players use aside from "Hit super effective move"

This was great commentary. Ive not played competitive in a while, but this has me remembering the old meta fondly. Definitely want more

1:30 Haven't watched the rest of the video, but thats an amazing outlook, and I just want you to know I massivly appreciate and applaud you for this stance.

I had a gen 5 uu game go for over 800 turns. Stall v Stall, only reason I won was that I ate a spore with gligar turn 1 or 2 and that preserved a pp advantage later. Yeah I’d rather have tied

@Xephyra

Жыл бұрын

Ahahahahaha my condolences

@michaelbowman6684

Жыл бұрын

The price for playing Pure Stall: mirror matches that last 6 hours and are hell to play, either resulting in a tie or a victory/loss depending on who has better PP management. Let this be a lesson to not play Pure Stall if you don't like overly long games that are over twice as long as a feature film, because unless your opponent also doesn't have the patience for the mirror match and is willing to tie with you, you will suffer until turn 978. Or you could just go next, forfeit, and hope you don't match into another Stall player again. Or you could just not play Pure Stall, and play Balance instead. Or Doubles.

@XxDannySniperZXxGOB

Жыл бұрын

But sleep is banned?

@ThePenisMan

Жыл бұрын

@@XxDannySniperZXxGOB there was once a time where it was not

@FlameUser64

Жыл бұрын

@@XxDannySniperZXxGOB Wait Sleep is _completely_ banned? Is that just a Gen 5 UU thing???

That was a great video, it's hard to find Showdown history online given how much of it is lost to the jumbled records of the internet. Please continue making videos like this!

@arcadechimera

Жыл бұрын

There is a ton of Netbattle, Shoddy Battle, and Pokemon Online history (older battle sims) that is entirely lost. 😪

@BenadrylNumbercrunch

Жыл бұрын

Check out BKC’s channel he has a lot of that content there, just did one on one of the biggest cheating scandals in tournament history

In chess there is a rule that states that if no pawn has been moved and no piece has been captured for 50 moves then the game is a draw, it's called the 50 move rule. Maybe smogon should implement a similar rule, basically if no PP is being reduced over the course of X amount of turns, then the game is a draw, this rule could also kick in if PP is being reduced but regained somehow. If there isn't a net loss of pp throughout a match then progress is not being made

11:06 nothing to do with Pokémon, but I loved the Morgiana custom avatar! Magi deserves lots more of attention, such an underrated anime/manga.

Can’t believe I sat through that entire battle hahahahaha. It’s still crazy to me how Tele brought no real wincons and expected to win.

@rajvirratia6703

Жыл бұрын

How many hours did the battle take?

@asterlofts1565

Жыл бұрын

What's means wincons?

@N12015

Жыл бұрын

@@asterlofts1565 On stall, that means having a setup sweeper behind to win through a soften team. In this case the obvious choice would be calm mind M-Latias.

@watery2211

Жыл бұрын

@@asterlofts1565It is short term for a win condition. If thy condition is met, they are gonna win.

@thekingbradable

Жыл бұрын

@@rajvirratia6703 I remember it being close to 7 hours. I could be off though

I almost never comment on KZread videos, but I have to because I want to see more of these "greatest game" breakdowns. This stuff is fascinating and as a fan of--but not an active participant in--competitive pokemon, videos like this are amazing ways to learn about the history of the game. Excited for more :).

@yeet8036

Жыл бұрын

If you want more analysis on greatest game in pokemon showdown I recommend you BKC,he makes great analysis on older games

@calebromeo239

Жыл бұрын

word

This is honestly a great representation of why I only play doubles. I don’t have the patience for a game lasting even 10% of this one

@icarus7198

Жыл бұрын

That is to say, big props to singles players you guys have more stamina than I ever could

@RinaShinomiyaVal

Жыл бұрын

This match is a complete anomoly. Couple of hundred turns at MOST for two decently skilled players. 50-60 when someone does ok then one player chokes badly

@necrobonesgaming2424

Жыл бұрын

@@RinaShinomiyaVal then as another anomaly, both players load webs HO and it's over in 10 turns LOL

4:47 "Even if alot of damage is not going on, as long as PP is being consumed there is progress being made because it can lead to Struggle." *insert Roshi laugh here*

@rixaxeno7167

Жыл бұрын

3:55

@therecentlyundeceased

Жыл бұрын

Truly the "State and Revolution" of our era.

Can you do a deep analysis on when blunder used black sludge on bisharp?

@MetalSam25

Жыл бұрын

Omg🤣🤣🤣🤣

@LuizOMenudo

Жыл бұрын

holy shit that was legendary

@apathyontop3290

Жыл бұрын

that was ctc bro

@HenrythePaleoGuy

Жыл бұрын

I love how that's still a big meme. XD

@MrcreeperDXD777

Жыл бұрын

Or an analysis of the legendary zen mode darm 6-0

“As long as peeper is being consumed, progress is being made, because it can lead to struggle.” -Abraham Lincoln

That was super interesting! I'd be happy to see more showdown history 😄

This reminded me of the notorious battle that gave us the "Endless Battle Clause". Keep the great work, I love your vids

@Xephyra

Жыл бұрын

funbro go brrr

@TheGuyWhoIsSitting

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was another battle involving stalling, healing the opponent with Heal Pulse, and assuring you'd never run out of PP with Leppa Berry and Recycle/Harvest/etc. Where the battle could literally never end without making severe misplays.

@israelfelix7459

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting and you're totally right, they're just two different battles

@jamescarrotcsl8

Жыл бұрын

thats not a battle that set was common knowledge for a long time

@Xephyra

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting thats exactly what funbro set is

6-0's after 1287 turns. What a legend

This story reminds me to a 1024 turn Pokemon battle I had back in the Pokemon Netbattle years that also crashed the app lol. Let me know if you want to hear the story (there were no replays back in the day but I'm sure the battle log should be somewhere deep in the internet) EDIT: And no it wasnt wobbuffet vs wobbuffet lol

@jeronimoroldan2677

Жыл бұрын

Y, como fue?

@violet5188

11 ай бұрын

Tell us I'm seated

@Agent5061

10 ай бұрын

Ready my man

@oksure9261

10 ай бұрын

Please, supply us with the story-milk fresh from the udder of your brain cow.

@gojirarex5138

10 ай бұрын

You can't just say "let me know if you want to hear the story" and then just not tell the story

Love this kind of content. Bring me more history lessons!

The whole "psychological battle" with trash talking is why muting is optimal when playing games, unless of course you want to get into that battle yourself. When you're actually fighting someone it's an element you can't ignore to gain the upper hand, but in pretty much any other situation it's just poor sportsmanship to play "side games" other than the game itself.

@jkid1134

Жыл бұрын

Muting your opponent so they can't get in your head is the type of behavior you see from victims of abuse. "I am weak and cannot engage socially in case someone hurts me" is a state we should not will anyone toward.

@driftwisp2797

Жыл бұрын

@@jkid1134 Dude, you just heavily implied that victims of abuse are categorically weak. That's far more problematic than the idea of not wanting to chat with random strangers.

@jkid1134

Жыл бұрын

@@driftwisp2797 Oh! Well, I sure didn't mean to. I meant to imply that this is a mindset that victims of abuse often fall into, not that it accurately reflects the nature of abuse or even power, and furthermore that it is an unhealthy state of mind. I can see the confusion, but trust me, I don't think less of someone for having suffered.

@thewanderingmistnull2451

Жыл бұрын

@@jkid1134 Muting your opponent so they cannot get into your head is a perfectly valid strategy. It isn't about weakness or strength. If you can't play mind games through the medium of the game itself, then you're not really playing mind games, you're just throwing insults in the hope of distracting your opponent.

@prodhaiku

Жыл бұрын

I love saying gg before the game actually ends

I never imagined listening to an explanation about a game with over 1.2k turns to be so interesting that it almost saddens me that the video ended so soon. great explanations on their movechoices/plans. I definetely would like to see more of that kind of content!

im an idiot when it comes to pokemon, especially tournaments, but god damn did you explain this well. a really comprehensive and well executed vid :3 also! the point in the beginning about not covering negativity of people online was such a good perspective on it. someone else mentioned is but it was just really professional and chill. love the vid

ABR and tele is the definition of "Die as a villain or live long enough to see yourself become a hero"

@imfamoushero

Жыл бұрын

the saying is mixed up. die as a hero or live long enough see yourself become the villain

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500

Жыл бұрын

@@imfamoushero yes, thats the point

@imfamoushero

Жыл бұрын

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 i see

this was the game of all time

@droftrop4135

Жыл бұрын

this match was truly a moment ever

@no_name_without_name239

Жыл бұрын

Tactics were made, switches existed and most importantly, both players played.

@koitern8785

Жыл бұрын

Pokemon were involved in the battle

@Andrei-wj7hg

Жыл бұрын

This definitely was one of the games of all time

@Sekibankiii

Жыл бұрын

Truly the battle of all time, my favorite part was when clefable said "its clefabling time" and then proceeded to clefable on the opponent's faces.

1:19 to 1:29 - such wise words. Keep on spreading this amazing energy, Freezai!

Why yes I do like listening to you explain battles, Sub

I love when people break their games so hard that the rules get modified. Just like the dude with a nearly infinite Yu-gi-oh deck

ABR feels like a whole Jojo istg, he stays so unbelievably persistent throughout the entire game. Tele feels morelike a villain who thinks they've won as soon as the game started.

@rishabhanand4973

Жыл бұрын

istg?

@Chriscraft-ug3sz

Жыл бұрын

@@rishabhanand4973 I swear to god

@rishabhanand4973

Жыл бұрын

@@Chriscraft-ug3sz thanks

@lornemalvo4492

Жыл бұрын

Touch grass.

@joaoborgesrodriguesalves6554

Жыл бұрын

@@lornemalvo4492 you too buddy

Wow! What a fun video, thanks for making it!

I’ve been playing Pokémon for over a decade. I’ve never played or even watched competitive battles, and this epic battle is the first time I’m seeing it 😲

ABR knew what he was doing. I've been in a similar boat where I was pretty much forced to hold a relatively stagnant game state in order to maintain my later win condition (in this case, using Roost on Togekiss to drain a Starmie's Ice Beam PP so that it couldn't kill my DD Salamence-Togekiss had been paralyzed earlier, so flinching it down via SereneSlash wasn't going to cut it). Your opponent will bellyache all day long about how you just dragged the game out, but that's because they don't want you to realize that such conservative play is the hole in their strategy. This is especially true of stall players, whose egos are far more fragile than their team compositions would lead you to believe.

@brassllama098

Жыл бұрын

It's so exhausting to do but feels sooo good when you finally get the win. Most i got to was almost 300 turns just to finally predict a stone edge on an incoming Mandibuzz. stubborn mf like me will gladly switch all day against stall 😌

@bestaround3323

Жыл бұрын

If they hate the game going so long they shouldn't play stall teams honestly.

@thewanderingmistnull2451

Жыл бұрын

@@bestaround3323 It's only the stall players who are playing stall to get their opponents to forfeit who are like that. They don't enjoy stalling itself as a strategy, they enjoy the feeling of making their opponent miserable, which is why they fall apart the second someone who knows how to pick apart their particular variety of stall comes along.

@bestaround3323

Жыл бұрын

@@thewanderingmistnull2451 Yeah, they really shouldn't be playing stall then. If you don't have the sense to either forfeit if you know you probably won't win, or enjoy the struggle of clawing each and every power point to try and snatch victory, then you should play stall. As if an opponent can pick you apart to win, then they deserve some respect for their determination.

@jpupper428

Жыл бұрын

Sick roast. Man's a savage

Freezai, the way you mentioned how you don’t put players in a negative light and your explanation after was very well spoken, and is the most mature and professional thing I have ever heard from any sort of public figure. People could learn a thing or two from you

@zad_rasera

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think I'll forever be a regular watcher now.

@Mr502

Жыл бұрын

Seriously that was the most respectful thing I've heard in a long time from anyone. Legend

@wezen89

Жыл бұрын

Freezai a very nice person indeed

@toast2492

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

this is just as satoshi tajiri intended the game to be played. the only thing keeping them from forfeiting was the +5 ladder points to go from rank 1069 to 1068 on the ladder

Nice video. Good work man

And I always thought 100 turns was too much to bear with...

@DuskLegend

Жыл бұрын

Yeah stall truly is cancer

@myname9704

Жыл бұрын

Dusk Legend Ngl stall hate is omega cringe

The 1000 turn rule after this game, reminds me of how the 60 card limit in Yugioh has been introduced. Basically it is optimal to run as few cards as possible, so there wasnt a hard upper limit by the rules, so two friends brought a 2222 card deck to a tournament, which ended up as a logistical nightmare, since every single hard had to be logged and checked for legality and the deck had to shuffled multiple times in game. After that an official upper limit of 60 cards has been introduced.

@michaelx8486

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't it called shuffle impossible? Because there was an disproportionate amount of shuffle cards?

@oneupglitch2582

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelx8486 It was!

@Videokirby

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelx8486 Specifically, "Mischen Impossible". It was a German Tournament. "Shuffle" in German is Mischen, so the name is "Mischen Impossible" like "Mission Impossible"

I love how all of a sudden PP maxes become *very* important

I was thinking about getting into competitive pokemon. Thank you for changing my mind.

The greatest battle of all time in Pokemon: **two pokemon masters fighting each other with legendary Pokemon** The greatest battle in Pokemon Showdown: **two trolls stalling each other out to the end of time**

@zad_rasera

Жыл бұрын

I don't think ABR is a troll.

@bongosmcdongos4190

Жыл бұрын

It's reminiscent of ancient swordplay, two sides each cutting, feinting, positioning, each one jockeying around the other to make that one decisive cut that ends it all.

@Whodjathink

Жыл бұрын

@@bongosmcdongos4190 Heck, modern fencing. It's pretty much just waiting for the other opponent to make a mistake and taking advantage of it. So usually no one makes the first move

@Gurkan790

Жыл бұрын

ABR wasn't a troll, he played the game the way that Tele wanted to play so badly and read him throughout the entire match like a book, which took like 7 hours to finish lmao

@thewanderingmistnull2451

Жыл бұрын

Greatest Pokemon battle happens in episode 4 of the anime: Metapod vs. Metapod.

I will always remember this video because while I was watching this I caught my first ever shiny in Shield and then my game crashed before I could save it

Just saw on Twitter that this hit a mil. Congrats

This gets a watch every time I see it on my feed

It's so weird seeing Slowbro not using Teleport. Those were weird times.

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

Жыл бұрын

TobyBro didn't have Teleport either.

"It became very clear the game would not be about dealing the most damage but draining the most pp" -freezai 2022

"ABR would go on to become the greatest player of all time, and unfortunately tele would go on to later get permanently banned." had me dying

I like how he says tele is "harassing and trolling" while showing him saying slurs, he's being so polite even though tele deserves anything that could be said about them

Absolutely do more of these, as a very low level competitive dabbler hearing the extent to which this game can be taken has me HOOKED.

My dude has a competitive Pokémon accent

Amazing format, more of that pls

HOW LONG was ABR vs. TELE ACTUALLY I love this idea and would love to see more of this because there are some amazing sets more people need to know about.

That was really hype. You've gotten me really interested in the history of competitive pokemon and I know nothing (newbie). Also your narration+storytelling is awesome. I'd definitely love to see more!

@eatherjourneyman8357

Жыл бұрын

False swipe gaming is an excellent resource to learn about competitive Pokémon in all generations. Check him out

keep doing more, brother❤️

Super cool vid, loved the analytical breakdown of the battle. I wish there was more singles breakdowns imo. Would love more stuff like this.

I like learning about weird & exotic strategies! 1 of my favorite videos was about a competitive approach to a massive, Metronome only tournament, & seeing how that played out! Lots of people play Pokemon, & lots of people play it competitively, it's the cases where people do things few or no others have or where they play in unprecedent, fundamentally different ways that excites me! Anyway, nice analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

I had a game that went on for 110 turns this was how it went: It was on randomised team mode. It was eventually down to 1 Pokemon each, my Blissey vs the opponent's Marcargo. The only move I had left was present and softboiled for a while. I continually whittled down the Marcargos health but sometimes restoring it due to how present works. The opponent ended up winning... But that's a game I'll never forget

Honestly not having any bias to either was really hoping it was gonna be a dumb win like the world's slowest toxic kill but this was just as good and the ending tidbits was the icing on the cake lmao

This was really interesting to watch, I have heard about this game before but never about why exactly it took so long. Would love to see more videos over games and sets like this

My entire laptop crashed 3 times trying to open this replay 🤧

You got me. This is the video that convinced me to sub.

"But first, subscribe to the channel" with the subbed/not subbed bars=definitely no chance of subbing now

Remember when “don’t feed the trolls” was an internet rule? ABR broke the rule by plying a troll for an eternity

@An_Entire_Lime

Жыл бұрын

It was a tournament, and ABR played to win

@simongail8428

Жыл бұрын

Feed them until they bust

@rbexcess

Жыл бұрын

@@simongail8428 🤨📸

@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa

Жыл бұрын

@@simongail8428 😏

@simongail8428

Жыл бұрын

@@rbexcess 🤰🏽