Explained: Russian SAM Systems :- SA-2(1957) To SA-23(2013) | DCS
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Russian SAM Systems - 2007 to 2023: • Explained: Russian SAM...
0:00 Intro
1:47 ZSU23-2/4, ZSU-57-2
3:26 SA-2 S-75 Guideline Dvina
5:38 SA-3 S-125 Goa Neva/Pechora
9:13 SA-5 S-200 Gammon Angara/Vega/Dubna
12:24 SA-6 Gainful Kub
16:17 SA-8 Gecko Osa
18:36 SA-9 Gaskin Strela & SA-13 Gopher Strela 10M3
21:01 SA-10B S-300 Grumble B
25:04 SA-10D S-300PS Grumble D
27:27 SA-11 Gadfly Buk
30:43 SA-12 S-300V Gladiator & Giant
34:46 SA-15 Gauntlet Tor
36:31 SA-17 Grizzly Buk M
39:08 SA-19 Grison Tunguska
42:16 SA-20A S-300PMU-1 Gargoyle
45:17 SA-20B S-300PMU-2 Gargoyle
47:32 SA-21 S-400 Triumf
47:48 SA-23 S-300V4
50:14 ALL SAMS!
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@daviddoyle982
4 ай бұрын
I agree with whomever suggested it, this should be a Sunday Funday idea hehe.
@jeremyaudet3810
5 күн бұрын
which is the one that you have to destroy the entire site to take it out
@jeremyaudet3810
5 күн бұрын
also have you done a video on American surface to air missile systems?
Cap, I'm only 11 minutes in so far. But the use of the jeep for a ground-level perspective and the cows to emphasize scale is... brilliant.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@timblack6422
2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@cockatoo010
2 жыл бұрын
ikr? This really emphasizes that some of these SAMs really are angry telephone poles
@FormerlySunrize
2 жыл бұрын
@@cockatoo010 heh
@hollowman117
2 жыл бұрын
…and I notice that the cows are in fact better animated than infranty units.
This video would have been a game changer for me in USAF intel school 25 years ago. We learned these systems looking at projected slides and black and white photos. Well done Cap and team.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@erfguuipo8084
Жыл бұрын
25 years there's no youtube lol
@goodvibes6715
11 ай бұрын
GRU, SVR and Chinese MI want to know your location 😊
@RichardBejtlich
11 ай бұрын
@@goodvibes6715 they already got me in the OPM breach 😆
I was an ELINT analyst in the Air Force a long time ago and this would have been so much nicer than reading Jane's and the classified similar books for information.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@markwybierala4936
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevor, I was an F111 ECM tech. Always wanted to drink a beer with an ELINT guy.
@rnash999
2 жыл бұрын
@@markwybierala4936 Find a Vietnam vet airborne guy, they have the best stories.
@juvnchy
Жыл бұрын
goodfellow?
@rnash999
Жыл бұрын
@@juvnchy Yup.
This very first time I have ever truly understood the size of these Russian SAMs. Pictures and videos on television do these machines no justice. One of the best educational DCS videos I have seen to date. Thank you, sir.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, you do not. Sadly even during the first some minutes I stopped count the inaccurate statements of the video. Even the names and designations are not correct in many times. Foe ex. the S-75 Desna was a very, very, very short lived thing. The S-75V and later the S-75M was the definitive and long lasting variant. The S-75s could guide three missiles on a single target and not one. I rather recommend this series about the same topic. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2Zk7ZpqJnSoNI.html
@tetraxis3011
Жыл бұрын
@@militavia-air-defense-aircraftI believe for fairness, he uses the First variant of every AA system.
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
Жыл бұрын
@@tetraxis3011 Nope, it is totally randon even never existed version are dislayed. I can send you the very long list of errors with explanations.
@tetraxis3011
Жыл бұрын
@@militavia-air-defense-aircraft Send it pls
This reminds me of the American F-16 pilot who dodged 6 SAMs in one mission over Iraq. The footage is crazy as the Gs he experienced must have been insane.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
Roger, looked at this a while ago: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aHmLo8yTh5nUk9o.html
@TheKeithvidz
2 жыл бұрын
i'd seen his video - unknowingly his chaff dispenser failed working.
@howaidaelsayed3471
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Ukraine war please
@virtualunitedpilot
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKeithvidz they don't know if it failed or if he just didn't hit the button either way the balls on the pilot are massive
@user-bb2mq2rk2h
2 жыл бұрын
@@howaidaelsayed3471 Everything is clear with Ukraine. The Russians are beating the Nazis there, which your government created. The United States once again wanted to make a world war. The tactics of its creation are exactly the same as you created Hitler. Zelensky is better than Hitler. He is a stupid actor (comedian profession) a drug addict and will not get out of control.
Do the same comparison with American, Asian and European SAM systems. That would be amazing.
@JeanLucCaptain
2 жыл бұрын
He could probably cover everything they have in the same Video length. Soviet Union/Russia has by far the most multiple layer AA system. It was always assumed the Soviet Airforce would be out numbered and that philosophy has continued to apply. It also serves to protect Russian facilities and cities from the same kind of bombing campaign you see in Middle East all the time.
@Breakfast_of_Champions
Жыл бұрын
They don't really exist beyond a basic level. You can see who was really under attack in the Cold War.
This, Reapers, is an EXCEPTIONAL video! The research needed and delivery fantastic. The time I spend on wikis trying to piece together SAM information and you have the ultimate guide right here now. This video is on my, um, Quick Dial. Honestly, THANK YOU for doing it, I hope you get many more Patreons 'cos this is money well spent on quality entertainment and game information. Some laughs too there .... man I can actually smell the beef. 🐮🐮🐮🍖🍖🍖👌👌👌
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, sadly it is not. Sadly even during the first some minutes I stopped count the inaccurate statements of the video. Even the names and designations are not correct in many times. Foe ex. the S-75 Desna was a very, very, very short lived thing. The S-75V and later the S-75M was the definitive and long lasting variant. I rather recommend this series about the same topic. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2Zk7ZpqJnSoNI.html
This is fascinating. Where you've come in the 2 years I've been watching you is remarkable...in both your in-game ability and your ability to tell a story (and edit until your eyes bleed). I've never played DCS or Arma for that matter but I still watch everything you put out because if I'm not learning something I'm laughing my ass off. Thanks Cap, I cannot imagine how much research went into this and how patient the boys needed to be for all the resets lol
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly the video is filled with lots of inaccurate statements.
@CMFL77
2 жыл бұрын
@@militavia-air-defense-aircraft go ahead and link me your factual & accurate video with entertaining demonstration to highlight the evolution of the tech please
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
@@CMFL77 @Chris Laib kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2Zk7ZpqJnSoNI.html The S-125 comes soon, hopefully within some days. The point of mine series to explain in depth the "how" and "why." This video was inaccurate even just regarding the names and types of such basic thing how many missiles channels the SA-2 family had... I could not watch~ more than 10 min and some here and there checking because it is so inaccurate.
Great video, great cast, great timing…PETA is unhappy that any cows were killed. Greta is unhappy that all the methane belching cows weren’t killed. Nice job 👍
@kieranh2005
2 жыл бұрын
You just can't win.
39:30 Everyone in War Thunder Top tier knows how good the Tunguska is. Crazy fast missiles witch you see, when they hit you. Also amazing MG for short range
A much needed video and explanation, this is very helpful, thanks guys!
I love these videos. Thank you for making DCS accessible to us! :)
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
Coming from a long time DCS addict .. I'm having so much fun and this isn't done yet .. Thanks for that man
Really well done with this one. Audio and presentation is excellent. Setting them out and driving around to compare is a nice touch.
ミサイルの発射音に動じない牛すごい。 爆撃でも傷ひとつ負わない牛最強。 この牛にミサイルを搭載すれば世界征服できるんじゃないだろうか。
@ksto2
8 ай бұрын
Its a game dude of course it dont move
@supermilo
8 ай бұрын
これらはエルカンのロボット牛だよ:)
I discovered DCS about a month ago. I am digesting as much information as possible as fast as possible. This video was great!!! Love it!
Fantastic video, thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into these!
Cap can you please do an exact same video like this but with NATO sams and aaa. I enjoy your videos
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
rgr
@calmterror
2 жыл бұрын
what sams? NATO's SAM systems kinda suck mostly. Their doctrine has mostly been fighter air to air. and technically alot of these are now part of NATO's sam network.
@nichevo1
2 жыл бұрын
@@calmterror new stuff coming Real Soon Now, but yeah, we've not needed SAMs much.
@cadenkellner3227
2 жыл бұрын
@@calmterror all the NATO sams and aaa in the game is what I want to see in the exact same format as in this video
@gotanon8958
2 жыл бұрын
Nato sams are very capable. However on dcs on the other hand......
Thanks for including both the NATO code names and the Russian names. That clears up a lot of confusion for me! Excellent work everyone!
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
Love how you use the cows to scale the size of each SAM system. Very clever. And I'm sure no actual cows were harmed in the making of this video, LOL!
Fantastic video Captain. You have come so far from the first SAM video and I’ve enjoyed watching all the way. Great work that I’m sure all DCS pilots will appreciate. Salute
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
LOVE how you made this one - Awesome-sauce!
A great showcase for the stunning work by DCS. Frightening stuff in a real world sense.
Great deal of effort is put into this. Thank you very much for all these contributions to the community :)
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
Thank you guys again for your work! There is no other channel bringing this details!
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
Love the presentation, jeep tour and demo of the SAMs 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video cap! Love the jeep perspective! The tests as well. This is a great guide to Russian/soviet Sams, there are just so many I never know how much I should worry. Now I do.
the tunguska actually has a track radar (the round thing at the front) which can augment the SACLOS although it is more used for automated gun fire. also SACLOS is aim the sight at the enemy MCLOS a joystick
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
@fim-43redeye31
6 ай бұрын
That function is broken in DCS.
What a great video, it was like walking through a museum with a curator giving the 411... Thanks Cap and Crew.... had to be a lot of work.. and fun :)
You're clearly integrating the add-on High Digit SAMs into this video and I like it!
My goodness this was a brilliant video. Thanks guys!
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
Awesome video, really puts the size in perspective
Keep up the phenomenal work
WOW not only informative but a really cool video. Loved that boss fight at the end
Nice video, really appreciate the effort you put in!
I nearly didn't watch this one as I don'y have DCS (yet). Glad I did; outstanding video. Thanks so much guys.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
OUTSTANDING SIR! Thank you! Well done! You could win an award for that! Just for the jink at 15:00 alone! Cheers
That was fun to watch! Great video.
amazing vid. I love the perspectives and the demos with the boys!
Hey ! Thanks again for covering our mod. FYI, the S and U TELs on the S-300PS use the same missile, and have the same range. The only difference between both is that one is a "smart" TEL with the needed electronics while the other is a '"dumb" TEL without said eletronics. IRL, a smart TEL is used to control a dumb one, and the dumb one can't fire its missiles alone. This can be seen on the models: the smart TEL have a compartiment behind the driving position while the dumb one just has a spare wheel. In DCS, both TELs work identically.
@ytdlder
Жыл бұрын
This!
Probably one of your best videos yet. VERY cool to see the scale from the Jeep and the detail in the game...it's SO cool! Do more like this!! Also...some Winwing stuff is available for pre-order!! FINALLY pre-ordered my F-16 throttle! I'M STOKED!! Hahaha
Fantastic work!! Well done
Great explanation video,! Thanks again 👍 👏 😀
Fantastic vid. Great format.
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
The S-350E looks like an interesting setup as well.
Great content as always!
Love this kind of videos. Thanks guys!
Had a lot of fun watching this one, thanks
Great video, thanks for this guys!
Just watched the other video like 2 days ago lol happy to see a new one!
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
lol
Amazing to see that DCS even simulates the two good luck cows that are standard with each battery
@37:35 Either roadkill or Sunday lunch ! Terrific vid guys. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great idea for a video. Very educational.
Brilliant. Good stuff and walk through the years
Excellent update reapers love it
Wow! Fantastic video buddy
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
thx
The cows are the real MVP. @5:12 he didn’t even move on launch. Lol
Fun to watch and informative!!
The cow seems pretty relaxed about the rocket launch right near its head
This was VERY comprehensive! Side-by-side comparison was extremely understandable. Using the cows for a size reference and driving around in the little GAZ was great. I could almost smell the dry grass, diesel and rocket exhaust! ADA. If it flys it dies!
Terrifying... I wanted exactly this video yesterday so found your old one and watched half of it. Went back to it today to watch the end and saw a link to this video in the description. :o
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
Cool
Hi Cap, Guys - good vid - love the finale - looked like someone dropped a match in a box of fireworks...
Great video guys.
Great stuff. I also concur on a Sunday funday who can reach the site challenge!
Cap , this video is amazing . Good work !
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
NATO vid comes out tonight :)
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I hope it will be more accurate than this video...
Very helpful! The cows make it even better.
Great video, really interesting.
Thank you so much
CAP, one of the best DCS videos. They should have this for military training.
55:38 that was awesome some of the best dodging in the vid, nice dive at the end too
Coming from an ArmA player's perspective, damn we are missing a lot of stuff in game... Also, this would make for a great Sunday Fun day. Reloading SAM's so they don't run out, just for added spice/misery.
@thelight3112
Жыл бұрын
From my many hours in ARMA 2, it seems like the Takistani Army will have a couple BTR-40s, a BMP-2, and approximately 43 SAMs positioned in a village of 30 houses.
I like the way some of the missiles come close in warhead size to harpoon!
Cap, your content has gotten expodentially better. You are truly underrated, hope you keep growing more and more!
@chrismoule7242
2 жыл бұрын
Is that "explodentially"?
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
Thx Jerry
Thanks this is a valuable video
Damn I just watched that vid yesterday and was hoping for an updated one
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
I just couldn't stand having that old bad one up there.
Excellent!
Fantastic video! Very concise with nice footage. :)
Just lovely
S-125 can fire multiple missiles at a time. At a single target only, however. Don't know why this is moddeled incorectly. But, it was standard practice for us to engage every target with two missiles in 1999. Was it called dual channel guidance, or guidance via two channels. Something like that, translations are rough, and so is my English.
@imrekalman9044
Жыл бұрын
Same for the S-75. 6 launchers per battery, up to 3 can be launched at a target at the same time, just a few seconds apart.
While I have taken a cursory look at the game, I have never played DCS. The detail is pretty amazing and the mechanics seem to be fairly solid.
Good job
Looks like Jurassic Park tourist tour with experienced guide.
All these videos give me the willies
awesome video cap, very entertaining. Would like to see this format but with USAF missiles
@mikegarwood8680
2 жыл бұрын
Actually land AA is under the Army, much to the AF's displeasure.
@richardvernon317
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegarwood8680 Only USAF SAM was Bomarc. The fact that the USAF couldn't use their own SAM's to defend their own Airfields in Europe during the Cold War resulted the USAF buying Rapier and getting the RAF and Turkish to operate it for them in bases in the UK and Turkey.
@mikegarwood8680
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 Didn't USAF offer the Army all the A-10's for the Patriot?
Excuse me, one additional remark. Just try to imagine the situation back then: the Soviet Union was much poorer than the US and had a clear lag in terms of electronics. By the time the US and UK used integrated circuits in their missiles, the USSR still had to work with vacuum tubes. This was not because soviet engineers were not good enough. In terms of knowledge there was no difference, but the soviet industry could not produce high-tech with consistent quality and in the required quantity. Some production batches of the same piece of equipment were good, others were disaster. So the soviet engineers had to achieve the same efficiency than their NATO colleagues, but using a one generation earlier electronics. And they almost did it. That is why these engineers behind these systems deserve the respect of our generation.
@championknife
2 жыл бұрын
a little different, the backlog in electronics in the USSR was 5 years, this is actually not much. The fact is that the USSR was waiting for the US attack, which means it must withstand the first strike of an atomic weapon. At that moment, neither the USSR nor the United States had solid-state electronics that could withstand the electromagnetic pulse of a nuclear explosion. But this impulse was well withstood by lamp equipment, so the army adhered to lamp circuits to the last. I will shock you, but I personally saw equipment on ships, including logic circuits made on pneumatics. These circuits did not respond to nuclear explosions at all.
@worldoftancraft
2 жыл бұрын
@@championknife where I can read/see more about the topic?
@championknife
2 жыл бұрын
@@worldoftancraft what topic are you interested in? Lamp technology in the army of the USSR? Pneumatic logic? Backlog of the USSR in radio electronics?
@worldoftancraft
2 жыл бұрын
@@championknife Pneumatic logic and lamp-based hardware
@diliscsavo3059
2 жыл бұрын
@@championknife Thx, but you did not shock me. I am aware of the resilience of such old technologies to EMP. But as for the lag in electronics, I believe that the capabilities of the industry in the USSR was lagged by 10-15 years to produce such equipment, while the scientific knowledge level was very comparable.
This is amazing
He looks like doing military inspection with a jeep xD
I found that pure notching doesn't always work. It's also a good idea to make the missiles bleed some speed by turning around midway through their flight and make them lead you the other direction while you maintain a high speed. Then at the last moment you do a high G turn and they just can't keep up. This doesn't work for SA-15s and similar short range missiles of course.
Love this video for its explanation between models. Obviously the caps and lims aren't going to be accurate because it's a game and based of unclassified info I'm sure, but still liked it. A NATO video would be awesome to pair this with!
Great video.p It'd be really interesting to see this video redone with the sites against the contemporary targets they were made for.
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
The video should be redone regardless of "contemporary targets" or not. The video is sadly filled with lots of inaccurate statements. I'm currently creating a list jus about the most serious ones... If you are really interested in SAMs I recommend the SAM series on Militavia channel. It was started on Binkov's Battleground. The episode about the SA-3 family is almost done. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2Zk7ZpqJnSoNI.html
this was super helpful
As a kid in cadets, I got to experience the UK optical Rapier system at RAF Honnington. We got to play around with a simulated attack and had to optically track the enemy jet. It was great fun but really difficult! I got a 50% hit rate which is apparently good!
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
cool
Basically my favorite video ever here. Russian air defense has become a love of mine. I read somewhere about the Russians having to concentrate on surface to air defense because there was no possible way to compete with American fighter jet technology due to costs mainly. The Russians are able to build large quantities of these air defense systems for much less money. Also, systems like the pantsir and other SPAAGs can double as anti-infantry/armor weapons. Nothing like 23mm cannons being fired at some poor souls. Unfortunately I have been able to see this done on many occasions with the whole mounting of 23mm cannons on beautiful Hiluxes in the middle east. Thanks for this video. I dont think as much info is out there about the chinese capabilities but hopefully in the future it will be readily available.
@kiro9257
2 жыл бұрын
It's true that Russia's AA systems are unable to compete w/ American jet technology that's why there are multitudes of AA systems to compensate for it. An example would be the S400, in many videos it's always seen alone and vulnerable to the F-35. In reality, there are different AA systems present to support the S400.
@PotatoeJoe69
2 жыл бұрын
I will exclude American stealth aircraft from the conversation because they can easily defeat and penetrate Russian airspace unseen, so I will consider 4th gen aircraft only; Many of America's 4th generation aircraft can be fitted to conduct electronic warfare and anti-radiation combat missions. What that means is there will be a swarm of American jets at the front of a formation all fitted with equipment to jam any kind of ground radar, and then behind them is the second swarm of jets fitted with missiles that will lock onto any source of radar coming from the ground. These are called HARM missiles, and America's harm missiles are capable of tracking and destroying surface to air targets even after their radar is deactivated. So the old tactic of fire and then turn your radar off is completely ineffective against American weapons.
@ser43_OLDC
2 жыл бұрын
Pansirt and tunguska use 4 30mm Canon no 23mm canons
@evo3s75
2 жыл бұрын
@@PotatoeJoe69 no, stealth doesn't make a jet invisible... It just delays detection for as long as possible, Russian Radars will pick up on stealth aircraft and have done so multiple times already
@evo3s75
2 жыл бұрын
@@ser43_OLDC they actually use 2 guns, the guns are double barreled but a single unit (i.e. Left barrel fires and the gas from left barrel loads right barrel which then fires and loads left barrel and then it goes on and on like that)
This is great
I like the fact you included the the Russian air defence Cow’s🐄 at the start. They really are a plane’s worst enemy lol.
SA-3 from '60 managed to shoot down F-117 in 1999. Sorry guys, we didn't know it was invisible! :)
@RhodokTribesman
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, a clever radar operator went against doctrine and pinged an extra time at what the system considered a flock of birds, but this time it got caught with its bomb doors open, presenting a larger radar cross section. This is a failure of flight planning as well, due to the F117s all being flown down the same corridor. Good case study
@dukeoversteer
2 жыл бұрын
@@RhodokTribesman I also hear that because it was an older SAM it used a longer wavelength which was better able to track the F117
@marcusborderlands6177
2 жыл бұрын
But did it stop the bombs? Always love that story anyways
@toske5597
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusborderlands6177 Well it didn't bomb anymore. North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation stopped flying F-117 after that :)
@RhodokTribesman
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusborderlands6177 Out of the rest of the flight? No, they made it through. The F117 was never "invisible" to radar, but rather "low observable" and used in combination with other electronic warfare and jamming planes (which curiously, they gave the go ahead on this mission without them)
So entertaining!
@militavia-air-defense-aircraft
2 жыл бұрын
I would rercommend this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2Zk7ZpqJnSoNI.html
you are very pog mr. cap
@grimreapers
2 жыл бұрын
what is pog?
@waytoochewy4471
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers the highest degree of something incredible, epic, or exciting
Very good 👍