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very nice!!! didnt realise they had an organ at willem twee amazing. sounds a lot better than my bag of nails :D. amazing. the idea of having the blower in another room or wherever it is is definitely nice. cool

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy!

@rincewindtvd

Жыл бұрын

I hope you get the opportunity to hook your organ stops up to some synth control for an extra layer of weird!

Recording an organ is a great idea. When I was young I was lucky to play an organ in a church. I got educated to it after I had learned playing piano for some years. A 'real' organ has more than one keyboard and an additional keyboard ment to be played with the feet. Keyboards can be coupled, then (some) keyboards follow the master. Yes, all this needs some coordination and technical knowledge. I can talk about this experience for hours. But let me share some basic things: An organ needs room/space to make it sound. The bigger the room, the better. An organ can sound calm, soft, gentle and massive and very loud. It depends on the number and kind of its stops (sounds). You have to learn the names and sounds of the stops and where they reside by heart, no time to search for a sound during playing. An organ has no keyboard expression if you play it in a 'normal' way. A tone is on or off with its full volume. Yes, sounds can be tweaked and manipulated by pulling the stops more or less out. If you want to record the rich sound characteristica of an organ, place your microphones (min. 2) high in the air in the middle of the room (church-hall), not close to the pipes, not close to the ground. Use omnidirectional microphones. An organ has a natural 'built in' reverb, which depends on the size of the room. The reverb tail can last several seconds and changes when the room gets crowded. In general, you cannot record a big analog organ without any reverb. Placing cardioid microphones next to the pipes never gives you the sound(mixture) of all pipes but includes the domination of some single or small groups of pipes most next to the microphones. Using tons of microphones do not solve this. And even with cardioid microphones there will be a little bit of reverb (reflections from the back with a delay) you cannot avoid. The reverb tail can last several seconds. The bigger the room, the longer is the time a reflected sound needs to travel back to the source. And it gets reflected in many directions, that lasts in different delay-times of the reflected sound. In a church there are tons of reflecting surfaces. Sounds do travel and travel and travel and delay and delay and delay ... Recording an analog organ of a mentional size is always a challenge. Adding a choir doubles the 'fun'. As these instruments generally reside in churches, you always act in a sacred room. Concideration is a must. Its best to record an organ with more than one person. Take one or two people in addition to the player and communicate in an appropiate way. Please keep in mind that all you play (and say) can be heared outside the building easily. So if you want to so some experiments, you may look for an instrument in a small village and a friendly pastor. A little gift for their church is always apprechiated. So when I played in churches I never played during church services. I did it just for fun. After the training of classical pieces of music I always took my time to relax playing rock, hard rock and other wonderful tunes. Nobody cared as I did it when no people were araound in the church. But i got some friendly feedback from people, who liked to hear 'their' organ from outside in a different way than on sundays. Peace.

Heinbach was drooling over LookMomNoComputer's beautiful organ (lol). Can't wait for this video!

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Oh my, I set myself up for innuendos.

Beautiful! The Interstellar soundtrack is imho also a great example of the massive sounds these instruments can put out, very inspirational!

3:26 - Wow.. very atmospheric. loved that

I remember the track Sphere, 7th Movement, from Keith Jarrett, from his album "Hymns Spheres" He made these on this track while playing an organ. Thank you for showing how to do these things.

Reminds me of Ravedeath by Tim Hecker, this is great

Beauty beauty beautiful. I’m a little bit addicted to organs and what you did here is kind of a revelation. I once herad a concert in the Stiftskirche Ossiach where the organist used matches instead of your beer coasters to fix certain notes for minutes. At another organ concert, I don't remember when and where, there was a piece that was played without air, that is, the desired sound came only from the mechanics of the large church organ. A very impressive experience, because it also had a strong spatial effect. I had first discovered this effect in Windberg abbey at the church organ there, where a fellow student was playing etudes: the tone runs raced behind me through the small room (from pipe to pipe), it was almost as if a being made of sound was dancing on the organ loft.

Listening to this I can hear so many of the techniques and ideas used by Kali Malone and Anna Von Hausswolff that I never quite understood how they were done. Incredibly informative 👏

@alejandromontanez2977

Жыл бұрын

Anna Von Hausswolff is incredible, especially Dead Magic

@eponymousnull

Жыл бұрын

@@alejandromontanez2977 Ceremony is probably my favorite album from her. Dead Magic is special to me though: the first time I listened to it in full was on a walk after getting engaged

Love the way, you totally uncompromised serving your „tea“ 😂 Stay blessed Ⓜ️🙋🏽‍♂️

The section starting at 3:00 is magical - beautiful mixing and morphing drone! I love it, especially in its lower more intimate registers ! Also, love the subtle plug for "Dials" in the end section ;) Savvy! You're doing amazing work, and I really enjoy seeing you take some of the most traditional of instruments into new worlds of playing, recording, and producing!

@Tyrell_Corp2019

Жыл бұрын

At 3:30 my microtonal bliss alarm went off.

Beautiful epiphany. Danke!

Aaargh ! You Are revealing Our Secrets !"

congrats Hainbach you've given me GAS for a building-size instrument. Ah well, to the VSTs and such I go.

@stuartchapman5171

Жыл бұрын

I was given a battered old harmonium, and I've done a bit of restoration. One of its 39 reeds is broken. For sound design, it's fine. It fits nicely on my bookshelf. You could probably find an old one on ebay.

So cool! Thank you!

Most creative, unique things I’ve seen you do. What amazing sounds you were able to coax from this oldest of analogue keyboards!

Reminds me of the approach Keith Jarrett took when he recorded "hymns Spheres" in the 1970's

FANTASTIC

Love your train window view videos! Listened to core memory a few times on our 2 AVE journeys in Spain back in the fall. Perfect accompaniment!

Finally getting around to watching this! Lovely as expected! That's the beauty of a mechanical action - all those in-between spaces when the pipe is only partially open. Of course as players we spend most of our time making sure that doesn't happen, but it serves you really well here :)

i have never heard an organ like this before! great!

I've learned so much about organs today! Thank you Hainbach.

Really interesting video as always!

What an absolute king.

So beautiful

This is like a proper explanation of Sixth World Music techniques! Love it, would love some more about noise music's intricacies.

Can’t wait to try this on my pedal organ. That too has a note that sounds odd and interesting. But from now I will hear it in a new way. Thanks. ☺️👍

Very beautiful, and an interesting way you are using the stops in a creative way. Reminded me of Keith Jarret's album Hyms/Spheres from 1976.

There's some really exciting almost vocal sounding tones going on I've never heard before. Really interesting!

Really good and inspireing video dear Hainbach,..Much love from Sweden🥰🧡🎹

6:43 "I live my life like there's no tomorrow / And all I've got I had to steal..."

Thanks for the charity links. Also, some juicy samples to feed into Fluss 😊

Thanks Hainbach, for bringing me more fun and enjoyment in my own music production.

@jjeshop

Жыл бұрын

When did you first subscribe? What was it that made you hit that button?

@jjeshop

Жыл бұрын

For me, it was the smooth and calming ambient music

@jjeshop

Жыл бұрын

It's so good

@endorphinsmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@jjeshop I had to scroll back a lot but I think it was an Omnichord video I came across semi randomly. I love peculiar hardware videos and always loved Hainbach's approach a lot so I probably subscribed right away if I'm not mistaken. It gave me new appreciation to explore electronic instruments with a fresh approach.

David Bruce did a 5 Composers video for cathedral organ and Mikhail Johnson from Jamaica wrote a piece that uses mutation stops extensively. These are stops tuned at some non-octave interval, so for example pressing a C with a 2 2⁄3′ mutation stop engaged sounds a note a twelfth above C. They're usually used in combination with normally tuned stops to beef up certain harmonics and brighten or fill out the sound, but he uses them on their own with interesting microtonal results. It's a great piece.

@yfrontsguy

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear that !!

@gwalla

Жыл бұрын

@@yfrontsguy The video is on the David Bruce Composer channel!

Truly delightful (also have donated to White Helmets, great shout, what an awful situation the disaster is 🙌)

you got a Like right away for the sweater

It’s crazy how it sounds similar to my 4ms SWN module when rotating/morphing the waveshaper encoder, but with wind❤

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Had the same thought - very wavetableish

@OrfinMusik

Жыл бұрын

@@Hainbach those pipes are 43’ at the largest 😁

wonderful video! as a note from a bagpiper: your little remark that the organ was the first instrument capable of creating a drone without breath or human motion was good, but not exactly factual. where a bagpipe needs the players arm to keep the pressure constant and a hurdy-gurdy needs the wheel's rotation put in by the player, originally the organ would need at least one more person operating the bellows. that's before the introduction of fans or other machines moving the bellows. and it has a nice connection to the hurdy-gurdy and pipes because the former also has two players when it was first created as organistrum, one turning the wheel (playing the drones) the other playing the melody on the keys. on the other hand bagpipers eventually incorporated a bellows under their second arm to fully disconnect the instrument from their breath, essentially creating one of the first mechanical woodwinds. that in turn shows their deep connection with the accordions as the pipes have a bellows, bag and several drone pipes with a reed each as well as (usually) one chanter that can play melodies with one reed for all the notes, in the accordion family the bellows sit in the middle between reeds, with several reeds tuned to different notes, actuated by keys and stops like the organ. the pipe organ is like a huge number of recorders (or whistles) each tuned to a specific note, much like the accordion. but the difference in sound production is relevant: making a bagpipe or accordion with flue pipes as the organ would be impractical as those use way more air compared to reeds. my guess is that the broken note on the bottom end had a faulty flap or whatever those are called, so the thing that should allow the pipe to be on or off may have indeed moved like a reed. those sounds were very similar to my bagpipe's drone failing after a night of session because the reed begins to stick when there's too much moisture in the bag. yet another good reason for the bellows besides the many others from having one's voice free to the tuning being less affected by the changes in micro climate inside the instrument between breaths. btw, for another layer of complexity some bagpipes (notably the Irish Uilleann Pipes) have regulators, i.e. keys on the drones, to change harmonies with one's wrist. all that being said: with the bagpipes, if one puts in more than the usual air and uses the leather bag's dynamic tension for a little reservoir of pressure, it is enough to have the instrument squeak for a little while. as funny (or terrifying) as that is, it would arguably be a prototype of an instrument playing a drone (shortly) without a players immediate breath or motion. this most certainly inspired folk tales of haunted instruments of the devil (not least because they could have people dance until exhaustive, playing non-stop). just for fun, look up Launeddas to get a sense of what bagpipes looked like before the bags were added... cheers!

Sounds like a bag-pipe....really cool!

The final sounds while on the train. My first thought was that it needed a regular beat...and you were on your way to an experimental remix of Trans Europe Express.

It made me remember when Frédéric Blondy played Éliane Radigue's Occam XXV in Buenos Aires last year, an absolutely mesmerizing experience

I always thought organs sounded pretty lame actually but that drone technique with the cards wow haha

Wow!!! I tried some experiments with some of the Viscount digital organs prototypes I've been working on but never tried with a pipe one! :D

In 757, Byzantine Emperor Constantius sent an organ as a peace offering to Pepin the Short - King of the Franks. In 2023, Master Hainbach sent an organ experiment as a free gift to the Outsiders of KZread - Kings and Queens of their Bedroom Studios.

The boys at Stars of the Lid will like to play here.

I don't know why but I think Hainbach has something "An der Klatsche" but I just love it. Sehr gut wie immer. Schade, dass ich deinen Auftritt in Frankfurt krankheitsbedingt verpasst habe. Aber es kommen in der Zukunft hoffentlich noch mehr Gelegenheiten.

10:50 A fellow DAW in train worker 🍻

I had one of those cheap electric fan organs as a child. It doesn't have stops of course, just one plastic reed per note, but one of my favorite things to do was to just barely hold down one or more keys to get whispers and really breathy tones from it. Of course recording it would be an issue because the motor/fan is very audible.

György Ligeti was an important pioneer in this regard. His piece "Volumina" (1962) starts with a gigantic cluster to be played with both underarms and ends with turning of the blower. In between he uses all kinds of clusters, half-pulled stops and more. And his "Harmonies" (1967) is entirely based on half-pulled stops. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZVkz6qOpcS-cco.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2VkyK2pYZnPd7Q.html Franz Danksagmüller also make nice use of half-pulled stops in "Circuli". kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpxou8aHYpOuhcY.html And there's a moment in Pier Damiano Peretti's "Florete flores" where he beautifully combines it with playing a trill. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKKHlbiugNPFp5M.html A bit more of a basic technique is playing with 'weird' registrations that are not based on an 8'. Here's an example by Bernard Foccroulle: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZWBlNuznK_PiZc.html Zsigmond Szathmáry played with wind reducers. I think what these things do is reducing the frequency of the blower, such that the wind pressure is reduced. There are more and more organs which have one built in nowadays, for example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6SW2MmkiJfXYZM.html Szathmáry also used a "key pressure crescendo" in this piece: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWiDr86ap6XNfqw.html Luciano Berio uses stop tremolos and fixed keys in "Fa-si" on.soundcloud.com/6Xfrm One can do all sorts of fun things if an organ speaks MIDI: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZZrp7mTibvgZJc.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/noaDw8dtgdnQfaw.html And I have to mention Giulio Tosti, with everything he does to organs. At some point even managed to play the wind chest inside of an organ. (I don't have a video of that, I think I saw it on an Instagram story.) Here he plays the bellows of an organ: instagram.com/p/Cnt2Ra6qMQL/

@sommelierofstench

Жыл бұрын

my man just wrote a short book report and cited all of his sources. nice.

Wow, I could really head a big difference between the two recordings.

Sadly it's not on youtube, but the 2009 reissue of "In the Court of the Crimson King" has a bonus track called "Wind session" where the band are trying to coax spooky sounds out of a pipe organ and debating it over the talkback. Some of it was very much like what you're doing here. The beginning of the album used highlights from that session.

I wonder whether the idea of a “prepared organ” has already been done? Putting various objects into the pipes or messing with the reeds to change the timbre and texture. That low “broken” note sounded a bit like that was happening intentionally, with something rattling in the pipe or perhaps overblowing leading to turbulence.

some stuff is perfect soundtrack for space movie scenes, like used in 2001 or interstellar or dozens of b-movies^^

massive organ drones: a giant pair of lungs with helicopter blades

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

That is picture worthy of a drawing

For anyone looking for experimental organ music, check out Lawrence English’s “Observation of Breath” album

Pipe organs are really interesting. Check out Fran Blanche's videos on the Wanamaker organ.

I find this kind of organ drone incredibly inspiring. Do you have any plans on creating more with them? And/or do you perhaps know other artists using organs like this?

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

I made a big community post with artists that use organ. I do have plans for playing organ next year

Some of this reminds me of Ligeti.

❤️👌

What would happen if you put a ping pong ball down a pipe? I have a wing gauge that uses a little Styrofoam ball to judge the wind speed. I wonder if a ball(foam or hollow plastic) would add some neat percussion, along with the obvious rise in tone? Slide Organ.

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Please post that to Look Mum No Computer, could be fun!

turning off while on sounds like an 'abstürzendes kleinflugzeug' to hark back to certain beloved german analogies here.

What a great location. Can you rent officially the orgelzaal?? Is it also per day part. Love your exploration. 🙏

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can! Well worth it

you gotta listen to obsidian by kit downes if you don't know it already, rings of saturn

fuck! beautiful!!!

The largest pipes on the Meyerson’s organs are almost 10 meters 🤩

Gib' Wind!

3:55 Sehr Ligeti! (zum Beispiel: *Lux Aeterna")

I was just thinking, " I hope SAM watches this video ", and then..... 5:54 🤣

Well crud. Now I want a pipe organ. (I always did, but figured I'd never get the hang of toccata and fugue, so what's the point?)

There's a place called Siegfrieds Mechanisches Musikkabinett in Germany, this might be interesting for you as the people there are really open for experimental musicians and they mechanical instruments could be explored to the depth.... (delete my comment when it is too much of an ad) :/

4:06 *THX*

10:50 I wonder what a contact mic on one of the lower toned pipes would sound like mixed into the composition?

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Me too now!

This is my favorite type of ambient sound! If you haven't heard it already, you would absolutely love the album Virgins by Tim Hecker. Also, would I have your blessing to be able to sample this and remix the sounds into my own music? I would of course credit you

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

sample away! If the track is released commercially I generally do a 50/50 split on revenue/copyrights

@MahlenMorris

Жыл бұрын

Virgins is no-kidding beautiful, like most Tim Hecker.

I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video but if you enjoy the timbres of experimental organ techniques paired with creative production, I would strongly recommend listening to Anna von Hausswolff's album All Thoughts Fly. It's one of my favorite ambient albums in recent years.

@MrJonnyharry

Жыл бұрын

That’s gone straight on my playlist

Man if you played with the stops and just added delay and reverb you'd have an amazing ambient track

People walking by: The organist sounds drunk, again!

who is the artist you're working with at the beginning?

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Ah! Kosmos

@thesesignals

Жыл бұрын

@@Hainbach thank you! i looked up every variation of "ah! kosmos" except without the exclamation point. that was the key. thank you! when are these drone recordings going to surface?

i came here to say Kali Malone.

..checks prices for Pipe Organs on Reverb...

Charlemagne Palestine uses beer cardboard too on his organ's works like Schlingen Blangen

My old church that I used to attend growing up, had an organ too small for the building. it was a house organ that had a more powerful airpump so it was basically constantly over-extending. It was a horrible sound and it killed church organs for me.

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

That is sad. My wife also reacts badly to pipe organ, but that is because of the religious indoctrination she had to suffer as a kid.

Wonderful video! As an educated organist I of course knew about these tecniques beforehand, but seeing you playing with them was awesome however. I have had some steel bars manufactured to be able to play drones, which I have also used in my written down organ works. In this video they play an small historic organ and make up the bsckground behind whistling into the Soma pipe kzread.info/dash/bejne/daWIzs9titXLh5s.html

Can I ask why my comments got deleted?

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

No one did, and there are none in the auto mod cue. So a glitch? YT has been horrible recently

@claudiodepina77

Жыл бұрын

@@Hainbach indeed! In the past decade my academic and artistic output concerns extended techniques on the organ. There are more exciting techniques that yield surprising sounds used by some composers (since the 60s till now). I have a few articles and albums concerning this topic. If you happen to travel to Lisbon contact me. I'm the titular organist of an XVIII century Iberian organ and would happily arrange a visit (they sound awesome with these techniques, check my channel). Cheers!

Ich bekomme immer nur noch die Premieren in meinem Feed, also sehe ich nicht mehr alle Videos, leider

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Ist immer schwierig- nur mit der Glocke bekommt man eine Chance alle zu sehen. Aber auch dann nicht unbedingt

"7 things you can do with your organ"

du Achtarmiger ;)

Not quite Sarah Davachi!

Careful with that title..... lol

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

I forgot about the double meaning 😬

@TRIPPLEJAY00

Жыл бұрын

Oi oi savaloy 😆

@arednas

Жыл бұрын

First thing I thought about..... organ transportation using gigantic drones....

09:00 please show me how you record at 69 kHz 😜

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Only the second person to catch my Freudian :-)

Is this a "how to sound like an Anna von Hausswolff Album" tutorial?

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Gotta check her out!

Charlemagne Palestine would be proud. His album "Schlingen-Blängen" is fantastic! kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoSn17CRf5rTYLQ.html

I rly love u and your work BUT that was not a beautiful chord after opening the last air-flow-thingy at arround 2 minutes, it rly felt like being stuck on repeat to a not pleasant number of tones that actually felt like my first bad trip on weed i dont say the chord has no power but its definitly on the dark side of the force and im talking of the tormenting your mind for fun kind of dark side

@Hainbach

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Yeah for me beautiful has a different meaning - I think interesting things are beautiful in sound