I think that the fact that your wife couldn’t really tell the difference makes the biggest point. Excellent video, thank you.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@TroyWatsonYEG

13 күн бұрын

And how do we know that his wife isn't dead inside with no pallet like oh so many people.

Another good one, James. I'd be curious to see a test using the smoke tube in the Kamado Joe ash drawer as a way to add smoke for longer cooks instead of adding chunks/chips to the ash drawer. Could be interesting for low and slow cooks, especially an overnight cook where you don't want to have to baby it.

Using wood chips on the bottom and wood chucks on top inside my smoke box of the Woodwind Pro I have gotten great results. The wood chips smolder just enough time to get the wood chunks to smolder thereafter. If you don't use wood chips the wood chunks take a bit to smolder so there would be several minutes that the WWP would not be producing as much smoke as a pellet tube constantly smoking. Using this method I have gotten a very dark bark within 3 to 4 hours doing briskets where other pellet grills would have taken much longer. Great video and great comparison but I think that each smoker takes some trial and error to get the best out of them.

James, you really know how to do an interesting but fair test! Good job.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Cheers

Loved this! Only thing is like to see you try is using actual wood chips in the tube. I do this and I think it provides even more robust smoke flavor. I usually use a combo hickory and apple but sometimes just pure hickory. Cherry has also been in the mix with poultry.

Thankyou I've been looking forward to this. I bought the last generation WW36 here in the UK because it was on offer. Did a cook on it last weekend using lumberjack pellets and I loved the results. I also have a Masterbuilt 560 and the smoke profile was only marginally different. I'll give the smoke tube a go and see for myself. Thanks for the video!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Cheers

Great video James. Interesting results! 🍻

Cool video James. I don’t have any hands-on experience with a Zgrills pellet smoker (or any pellet smoker for that matter,) but it seems to me Zgrills makes some pretty good stuff at relatively low price points compared to other brands. Tom Horseman uses a couple as well and raves about them.

I have a couple of the Amazon pellet tubes. They work great with my WSM & gas Weber grill. Not as a substitute, but when you just want a mild smoke taste.or supplement. I have not been successful using them with my KJr. I believe there is just not enough oxygen inside as it smolders out. On the Weber grills for smoking cheese and NOT lighting a fire.

Great comparison here. I have a grill similar to the Z-Grills and I will start using a smoke tube. Thanks!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

A very interesting comparison. I really like these videos.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Great video, you need to get a lonestar grillz and try the 50-50 pellet wood chip mixture. I’ve heard they are the closest to offset flavor for a pellet grill.

I've been using cols cheap smoke generator from Amazon with oak sawdust for about 6 months with incredible results. Really enjoyed the vid.

@SmokingDadBBQ

2 ай бұрын

Good stuff

I use wood chips and pellets in my smoke tube. Use the chips for different flavor and Costco pellets

Great video… again! When you said -11 degrees I cringed. lol. Moved to Florida a few years ago from up north, and I don’t miss the cold!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Cold gets old quick lol

In my smoke tube, I like to mix some small oak chips along with the pellets. It's about 70% pellets to keep it lit and smoldering. Your briskets look great!

@SmokingDadBBQ

9 күн бұрын

Great tip!

I think your milage can vary. I haven't had good results with the smoke tube in my small Traeger. It didnt matter how much I let it burn to start it, the smoke just didnt last. And I pove my Amazen tube smoker. I have hower had too much smoke from my 36" WW Pro. In my experience I can definitley get more snoke out of my firebox on the WW Pro compared to the smoke tube. Thanks for the videos and mixing things up a bit 😉.

You can’t lose either way. Based on my needs for a more insulated grill, and bang for the buck.. I just purchased a Grilla Grills Silverbac Alpha.

love this comparison!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Thanks

I appreciate your wife's input. She didnt care it was for a video and gave an honest opinion. I will try this in my cheap smoker when I cook my brisket tonight. 🫡

I’ve got a straightforward pellet smoker. No smoke box, no searing feature, and I love it. I always use a smoke tube for longer cooks and I notice more smoke flavor. The tube you used seems shorter than then the one I use. I get around 3 hours from a tube full of pellets. I’m going to try wood chips next.

@Paul-ge7dg

Ай бұрын

Apparently you do not know true smoke flavor. You absolutely cannot attain that smoke flavor through a pellet, which is compressed sawdust. If you need a tube with more pellets to achieve smoke flavor then your pellet grill is not doing its job in the first place. All your doing is wasting money on more pellets...aka rabbit food. Pellet GRILLS are nothing more than easy bake ovens, set it and forget it. You want real smoke flavor, Nan up and run your pit.

I would like to see you put up Pitts and Spitts pellet grill against one of Big Joe Kamado's and see what happens. The Pitt's is very expensive and I am thinking about adding one to my collection. You are right about a brisket tasting different from a Kamado and Stick burner. I did do an inexpensive cut brisket on a pellet grill and it came out just okay. I just did not want to waste big money a prime brisket and have it ruined. Another nice video from my favorite up north BBQ guy...

I recently bought a smokai. A cold smoker from New Zealand. I got a traeger timberline 850 and gonna hook it up and try it. That would make an excellent video for you to do. Loads of extra excellent smoke. I use the smokai now for cold smoking bacon and salmon so I know it works good. So you need one to make a video or 2

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Good idea

I guess that goes to show that you don't need the most expensive grill to put out a great meal. Which did you like best? Excellent video.

Great video...

Hi James, can you review the smoking daddy inc Magnum P.I.G. Cold Smoke Generator attached to a pellet grill? I hear you can offset quality thin blue smoke on a pellet gill if you get the coals hot before adding wood chips to it. Its about $200.

I know this is getting ahead, but what size/brand pellet tube smoker do you suggest for Big Joe?

Slightly different take on the question. Most of the discussion seems to be about the best way to get Texas brisket flavor vs an offset. But what about Carolina hog since it's classically done direct, or nearly so, over low coals. Wondering if a Kamado or a pellet would be a closer match to a real pit?

Did you do Wood chips in the tube or pellets. Apologies if I missed that.

James, are you just putting the wrapped meat in the smokers for hot hold or are you bringing them into your oven at home? Can you hot hold for too long?

Such a creative test - I love this idea. Now what happens when we put that smoke tube on a higher end smoker?

@SmokingDadBBQ

2 ай бұрын

love how you think Al

Consider doing a blind triangle. Three samples, two the same, one odd brisket out, and try to pick the odd brisket out If you can pick it, there's potentially a difference.

what about a Yoder or Lone Star? Does the extra steel and quality of the build make them worthwhile? Especially compared to your offset.

@BlackDogBBQ

2 ай бұрын

BBQ Brian from House of Q won his ribs world championship on a Yoder YS640S. Not all pellets are created equal and that’s the biggest problem. Traeger pellets suck. So do the ones from Costco. If you can get your hands on premium wood like “Lumberjack” give it a go

Ok, 1. The smoke box isn't the only thing that makes the Woodwind a game changer. You can hold at 160 on the woodwind. How much would you have to spend on an additional warming cabinet? 2. You honestly have to babysit the flapper valve on the woodwind for the absolute best results. Running the grill with the smoke box closed off and steadily smoldering will get you smoke tube results. You can't run it like a standard pellet grill and expect different results. 3. Off-topic, but we have to talk about the shape of your sidekick flattop... I know this was done in the Canadian winter, but WOW! That poor little guy needs some love. Despite Netflix's claims to the contrary, orange is actually NOT the new black.😮 Full disclosure: i have a lid on my Blackstone, and my Sidekick has the sear box. Also has a lid. Please don't ask to see the surface of MY flattop. 😂

This is quite valuable. There has been a hype about wood chunks in pellet smokers. This throws that notion out the window. Did you use the smoke tube and wood chunks through the end?

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Yes I kept both smoking the entire time

@whaattheef2169

3 ай бұрын

I’d try the food before throwing the notion out the window. Trust

I have been using a smoker tube for several years and almost always get better results from it. I have done baby back ribs on a Weber gas grill with the tube and another rack on the Komado Joe with real wood chunks and I have also done a pork butt on both. The results with the Weber and the pellet tube are always better all around.

The fact you got a non-pro like your wife tasting it I just feel the evaluation is more authentic. A professional can pick the nuances in between the machines and knowing how the subtle differences are they can base their opinion on the fact they know what smoker made what flavor profile and is more biased. I love this review!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated

Did you agree with Sara on this? Could you tell any difference?

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

They tested identical to me

Well thanks for doing this tube test. I tried using a tube smoke on my LP gas grill and found no additional smoke flavor. I tried putting the smoke tube under the grate to see if I could get the smoke coming up and and over my meat, put that didn't add much. Looking at your pellet smoker when you open the doors, I see a lot of smoke moving inside of the grill. Looking back now at my gas grill, I guessing the gas grill vents too much air by design to make sure the flame stays going and this is why the pellet tube didn't work on my gas grill. So how about adding the pellet tube to the Kamado and see if that adds more smoke flavor so it tastes more like a off-set? I going to try my smoke tube with the cow meat I cook.

@whaattheef2169

3 ай бұрын

It’s because the tube doesn’t add any smoke flavor compared to the WWP.

I have that Camp Chef and I have a smoke tube. I guess it’s all a matter of opinion and preference. But in no way, in my opinion, is a smoke tube as effective as the Camp Chef Smoke Pro.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

The camp is way better stock. That’s not my point at all.. the point is adding a $20 tube equalized the difference between the two side by side

@lowdownone

3 ай бұрын

@@SmokingDadBBQ If I had a decent pellet grill would I buy a camp chef just for that capability? No I wouldn’t. But if I didn’t have a pellet and was thinking of buying a pellet grill would I buy it, yes definitely consider. We are at the sad point where all grills are overpriced. But the 24 camp chef vs some is actually more affordable, which admittedly isn’t saying much these days.

@whaattheef2169

3 ай бұрын

Yep, nowhere near the same flavor 😂😂 idk I’ve used a smoke tube on food and it gives it nowhere near the same Smokey flavor as the smoke box, it’s completely completely different and worth the price, unless you get an offset.

@whaattheef2169

3 ай бұрын

@@lowdownoneI bought the wwp after having a pitboss for years and the first time I tried the smoked food it was miles ahead of the smoke provided by a smoke tube and everyone I’ve fed the food too says the same 😭 maybe I’m crazy or something 😂

@mefobills279

3 ай бұрын

​@lowdownone 100s of parts. Computer control. Power supplies, displays, etc. Then shipping from China and retail costs. Not over priced.

Cool!

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Cheers

You should do the same comparison but instead replace the smoke tube with a Smoke Daddy "Heavy D". It replaces the defuser of a pellet smoker and allows for adding wood chunks that light from the firepot and burn for a couple hours.

@Travers_P

3 ай бұрын

Just bought one for my Camp Chef DLX and am interested to try it out soon. There is not much coverage on it online

Do you keep a pellet grill in your arsenal? If so which one?

“Zed’s dead baby”😊

Where is your locale? “WinterPeg?”🖖🤣

You have to try the two best American built pellet smokers; Lonestar grill & Yoder pellet smokers. And any pellet smoker that you have to add wood chunks don’t count as a solid pellet smoker

@WestBeachFLboy

3 ай бұрын

You don’t “have” to add wood to the WW pro, it’s optional. But it’s going to beat any normal pellet smoker by a country mile when it comes to flavor and bark using the fire box it has. Pellet tubes aren’t an equivalent, the pellets are smoldering at a lower temperature while they’re in the cooking chamber giving you constant bad smoke directly to your food, compared to the firebox on the WW pro that sits directly over the firebox giving you a lot cleaner smoke that mixes in with the pellet smoke as it comes up giving you better flavor.

@whaattheef2169

3 ай бұрын

@@WestBeachFLboyexactly, I almost think it’s too much smoke sometimes on the wwp

@WestBeachFLboy

3 ай бұрын

@@whaattheef2169 That’s also the fun of it too, you get to play around with vents, different types of wood flavors and how much wood you’d like to burn to get your ideal smoke flavor. It’s so much more fun in my opinion than just the normal set it and forget it pellet grills and a lot closer to offsets in both quality of food and the process. Mad scientist BBQ has a video where he cooked a brisket on his 500 gal offset and another on the WW pro and I think ChuddsBBQ was the blind taste tester and he couldn’t tell a difference between the two, just goes to show.

The smoke tube maybe has a higher floor, but has a lower ceiling. It doesn't look like you took full advantage of the smokebox on the Camp Chef. Looks like the fire burned too clean, or even burned out and wood wasn't replaced. I've had better luck loading a handful of pellets as easy ignition, and I load it up with as much wood chunks as will fit, usually just 2 will fit. Then I load more after 30-45 minutes when there are still coals left in the smoke box. Repeat a couple of times. This is the way.

@SmokingDadBBQ

2 ай бұрын

I’d agree about the higher ceiling…. there is no doubt the camp chef is made better, holds temps flatter and is more versatile. all facts… but side by side it’s not as big of a lift as you might think even with replenished (which i did ) wood with the damper adjusted

Do you think that adding a tube with pellets like that would be advantageous in a Komado?

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

No the white smoke and poor air ventilation kills the real fire … for fed and leaky buckets like these are fine and they have the help of fans to keep the fire going

@Langhorstiness

3 ай бұрын

@@SmokingDadBBQ Agreed - further to that, I frustrated myself for years trying to use a smoker tube on a propane BBQ and when trying anything even remotely "low and slow" the propane would constantly blow out and mess with temps and the smoker tube smoke quality. It can function well but only with the right combo of both air supply AND ambient heat from the actual fire/coals. You're onto an interesting topic in this video for sure.

@Paul-ge7dg

Ай бұрын

No

what type of pellet tube do you have?

@SmokingDadBBQ

25 күн бұрын

i think its called Amaz-n? got it on amazon a few years ago, i don't believe there is a difference so whatever's on sale

I guess the old saying if it ain’t broke don’t fix it fits.

@SmokingDadBBQ

2 ай бұрын

well said

That is both interesting and disappointing at the same time 😮

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Agreed

Sorry James, your wife is teh star of this video! Ha ha.

Now clean smoke is bad? Now you want 'bad' smoke because it tastes better? No such thing as clean or dirty smoke. Only smoke.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Not the point I made… pellets burning at hot temps don’t impart nearly any smoke flavour. Compressed dust isn’t a wood log, pizza ovens burning pellets at 800f … it’s just heat not wood flavour at that point. Almost all new pellet grills have a super smoke setting sub 200f as that’s where the pellet smoke can actually impart smoke flavour

I'm sorry friend, pellet GRILLS are not smokers. Extra tubes and different P settings do not make any difference. You will not get that smoke flavor from a pellet which is compressed sawdust like you would from chunks or splits of real wood. It is impossible because of the pellets burning in a small ash pot. Sure those pellets will produce lots of smoke, but unfortunately without the flavor. What you have with a pellet GRILL, is basically an easy bake oven, set it and forget it. If you really want to attain that "smoke" flavor, man up and run your pit with real wood! Pellets are nothing more than rabbit food.

@SmokingDadBBQ

Ай бұрын

Don’t get me wrong. I am no fan of pellet grills. All this test is about is does the marketing hype around a smoke box make a difference and you saw the result

@Paul-ge7dg

Ай бұрын

​@@SmokingDadBBQThat small wood chip box on the Camp Chef, I would not really call those chips chunks. I use a Old Country off set smoker and depending on the amount of smoke flavor you want you can most definitely taste and smell the smokiness. I used to have a Traeger grill and tried to adjust the P settings, smoke tubes and although I could get a smoke ring which actually adds nothing to flavor, it's only a cooking process, I could never get that smoke flavor. I no longer have that grill due to that misrepresentaction.

Whoever is sponsoring this week is the best.

@SmokingDadBBQ

3 ай бұрын

Both grills are provided by each manufacturer