How do you dismantle a nuclear sub? Carefully, very carefully

@stocktonjoans

2 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it, was going to say exactly the same

@thecurlew7403

2 жыл бұрын

Its not hard to dismantle RN subs theres only 8.

@wolf6543211

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecurlew7403 you mean 11.

@thecurlew7403

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolf6543211 Oh 11 my dear heaven 1 for each ocean of course undetected they could do harm but if i had chargevi would have 16.

@katerinakemp5701

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🥰🤣

That's my fisrt Sub in dry dock pictured on here. HMS Revenge. I was on Stbd crew. 77-80.

@380Scania

2 жыл бұрын

Did you know someone onboard called Trevor Pringle he was one of our neighbours in MQ in Rosyth when I was growing up he had served on Revenge

@goldenlabradorskye

2 жыл бұрын

@@380Scania Sorry mate his name does not ring a bell. I was a back afty. Was in MQs at Helensburgh.

@paulhill1665

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me, but 86-89

@goldenlabradorskye

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulhill1665 We had a pusser hill when I was on her. I was a back afty.

@paulhill1665

2 жыл бұрын

@@goldenlabradorskye very common name I was in the MCC, and I was not called Mary!

Dear God, these boats were waiting to be decommissioned when I joined the Dockyard 20 years ago & 10/15 years before I joined. I’ve been on board all these subs doing basic maintenance…water tight doors etc & carrying out an annual vacuum test. I even helped build the ‘new’ de-fuel crane for this project…..5 years ago which is still unused & rusting away. It was rusting while we built it as it took so long 😏

@lewisdean22

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully when your grandchildren are old enough they may start dismantling them and see auld rusty .

@normanboyes4983

2 жыл бұрын

Things always happen really slow in a naval dockyard - it has always been so.

@captiannemo1587

2 жыл бұрын

The US is even worse if it’s any consolation… =(

@Revup1

2 жыл бұрын

@@captiannemo1587 And then there are all those old Soviet boats........significant problem there.

@normanboyes4983

2 жыл бұрын

@A Twinspark Gaining regulatory licence?

How do you dismantle a submarine ? Leave it parked on a council estate , it will soon be up on bricks , with parts missing.

@katerinakemp5701

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🥰🤣

@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266

2 жыл бұрын

@Spudman Drive it about for a bit then burn it out

At first i thought she was crying at the fact they are dismantling the Submarine 🤣

One should be turned into a bar/club/restaurant and parked next to HMS Belfast. That would be cool.

@thomas82311

2 жыл бұрын

hard and not cheep

@millennialtrucker6435

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomas82311 we didn’t win many wars with that kind of attitude did we?

@thomas82311

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenmcdonnell5702 nuclear?

@FinTank02

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenmcdonnell5702 hms alliance and hms courageous (sort of)

@RailPreserver2K

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it would be, if the UK would bother saving one. They hardly have any museum ships from ww1 forward. Why ? Because they just scrap them with out a 2nd thought

Good Job Christine! It’s nice to see a proactive plan rather than just leaving them to rust away.

interesting. learnt something new today.

I work at Devonport Naval Base and everyone there is working very hard to achieve this goal, part of the problem is that Devonport carries out many different functions and there is always some kind of structural or infrastructure change going on to accommodate vessels whether it's skimmers or subs as they differ so greatly, and what with health an safety and other legislative requirements changing so frequently too it all adds up.

Why does she sound like she's about to cry? Has she served on these submarines before or something?

0:21 A world first? 🤔

I remember as a young man in the RN asking how we would dismantle Nuclear Submarine's. I got a very nasty answer to the effect " who cares " , what a stupid question you just asked. I thought it was rather relevant as they already had 12 or so subs sitting around. They will be doing something now because they cannot ignore it any longer

slowly, rapid dismantling.... very thermobaric.

Great video - process not unexpected but interesting all the same.

Question: how does one go about dismantling a nuclear submarine Christine Brice: carefully, very very carefully

Hope someone can set up a time-lapse camera so can follow the dismantling of those huge vessels

@lewisdean22

2 жыл бұрын

A 20 year time lapse, all crammed into a 7 day video

I wish they would save a Resolution. When we were in refit and were the other side of the basin from them, I used to go round and look at them from the jetty. Conquerer was there and Dreadnought was cool to see. No Conning towers on a couple of them.

Shame they weren't able to make them into mini power stations

@helloitsme1785

2 жыл бұрын

Its not economical

@realburglazofficial2613

2 жыл бұрын

Plus the reactors are designed to operate in constant submersion in sea water. The logistics of putting one on land and retrofitting it to run outside of a sub isn’t cost effective. Also, they are still pretty secret. You cant just roll it into civilian use without broadcasting to the world “this is how the Royal Navy powers their subs!”

@normanboyes4983

2 жыл бұрын

@@realburglazofficial2613 They have been sat in seawater since decommissioning could have been pumping power into the grid for at least some of that time.

@realburglazofficial2613

2 жыл бұрын

@@normanboyes4983 the Subs are completely self contained. There’s no way to get the power generated by the reactor outside of the boat. It’s not like a battery that you can unplug from one thing and plug into another. The reactor runs on Submarine specific systems, it also powers Submarine specific systems. You can’t run the reactor as a power station without running the entire Sub, you can’t run the Sub without crewing it. It would be prohibitively expensive to do.

Which Polaris boat is that? Mine was HMS Renown.... would love a piece of her.

Very carefully...

It’s very straight forward. Cut the defueled nuclear compartment out and bury it someplace or other. The rest is just standard scrap

Why does it take so long ? It's madness !

@PB-hr3hy

2 жыл бұрын

Dude watch the video, they literally explain why

@TheFilwud

2 жыл бұрын

The longer you leave them, the more the radioactive materials decay and the less radiation you have to deal with. Leave them for 30 years and 90% of the radioactive problem has decayed away, making them much easier to dismantle.

@Sierraomega1991

2 жыл бұрын

You don't rush anything involving radiation

@MinhNguyen-gh8zp

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sierraomega1991 No not a rush but, of up most importance !

@KumaBean

2 жыл бұрын

'...Leave them for 30 years and 90% of the radioactive problem has decayed away' Doubt.

No SSN at Devonport has been defueled since 2004 let alone dismantled. 3 basin has since become a floating SSN stockpile of HEU in need of a safe and secure home. Safely defuelling those SSNs before dismantling is the key challenge unmentioned here.

Surprised they are trying to recycle the reactor that’s the news part

_very carefully_

There is no 'dilemma', there is just a 'problem'.

Strange to have more submarines waiting for disposal, than in actual service.

Hey I was wondering if they can take the nuclear reactors of ships and subs and use it for civilian use like part of a npp

@HappyBear376

2 жыл бұрын

Good idead and I like your thinking but sadly no. These reactors are unsutable. Britain is a world leader in Smr (small modular reactors). Look them up, I'm sure you'll me happy.

In other words just store them somewhere and hope the locals don’t get upset .

Pressure reactors are old. Recycle the spent fuel

Why not re fuel and use to power local villages ?

HMS Conqueror should be preserved for obvious reasons.

@FinTank02

2 жыл бұрын

Hms courageous (her sister ship) is being preserved at the moment

@HRHooChicken

2 жыл бұрын

@@FinTank02 courageous didn’t sink the Belgrano though

@FinTank02

2 жыл бұрын

@@HRHooChicken yes but courageous is still in better condition then conqueror

How do you dismantle a nuclear sub? The correct answer is "slowly". "At arms length" would also scrape a passing mark so long as it is made clear that squinting and pulling a funny face offers no protection.

There is nothing environmentally friendly about disposing of a nuclear submarine

Shift + Delete

Quite easy put it in a dry dock and carefully cut it to pieces 😂😂😂😂😂

Christine sounds nervous.

@adamatch9624

2 жыл бұрын

I would be to

@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamatch9624 if you was Christine

@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to be Christine 🤪

How do you dismantle a nuclear sub? Carefully, with some very long tongs.

Faster alternative: take a note out of Chernobyls book ;)

Given the current global tensions it might be a good idea to store some of the newer ones instead of scrapping them just in case things get bad

@russellmiles2861

2 жыл бұрын

Their fuel is depleted and they can not be refuelled unlike French submarines

@Revup1

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellmiles2861 Not quite true.......the UK boats have a significantly longer reactor life than any of the others (including the US boats) so refueling is unnecessary during the service life of the boat.

@MrRambo438

2 жыл бұрын

the six still in service where actually recommissioned.. albeit years ago

@TheCodingSeal

Жыл бұрын

@@Revup1 So true, I work for Rolls-Royce and the PWR 1 & 2 reactors would last long enough but the PWR-3 would still be going strong long after I'm gone.

Is anyone getting a Boris Johnston vibe from her!? 😆😆

She sounds terrified when she's speaking. 😬

That's not true they aren't the first to do this. To be clear: US Navy does dismantle nuclear subs.

@kevincrosby1760

2 жыл бұрын

Partially true. The reactor compartment is sealed as a unit and sent on a long barge trip to Hanford for permanent disposal.

I always wondered what a nuclear Sub would look like in Tipton Canal 🤔

@doughvictor2893

2 жыл бұрын

Everything else is in there

@interabang

2 жыл бұрын

@@doughvictor2893 Except fish 🐠

@doughvictor2893

2 жыл бұрын

@@interabang Victoria's have got all the fish

@doughvictor2893

2 жыл бұрын

@@interabang the canal into Ettingshshall from the old Stewerts and Lloyds had got a few horses in it

It's definitely a job for life.

Tin opener ?

Russia: "Just blow them up. "

All this deep mines they closed and filled in

Dreadnought should be preserved. The US has saved Nautilus.

we dont want to leave the waste for future generations to solve, bury's it 1000m in the ground for future generations to solve...

That's just mind blowing. For reference HMS Astute was laid down in Jan 2001 and commisioned in Aug 2010. So it took 10 years to build a new Nuclear Attack Submarine. Yet some of these submarines have been sitting there for 30 or 40 years. Just seems crazy its taking 3 or 4 times longer to complete the 'recycling' of these Subs than it took to build them. My first thought was, if we ever got into a war with Russia, what a target that would be! 1 Bomb into that group of old subs and the whole area would be basically written off for hundreds if not thousands of years.

@sheldonholy5047

2 жыл бұрын

The remaining nuclear material in those subs is quite low level by now and really wouldn't cause much of a problem in the situation you describe.

Why does she seem to be laughing while describing the process?

To all tree hungers - watch closely how safe is your "GREEN" energy is. How to decommission diesel powered submarine - JUST CUT IT UP!!

It's sad that so many of these were built without a care as to how they'll be taken out of service. Sure now those involved are planning long term waste storage. Considering that there were at least a hundred soviet nuclear subs that had to be decomissioned because they couldn't pay for their upkeep after the Wall fell, we don't seem that much more forward. I guess back then they thought they could export all the radioactive waste to Australia/Canada etc in exchange for protection by HM Armed Forces! How long will it be until Ben Wallace tries to sell the waste to Rwanda packaged as 'free underwater pressure generators/reactors'. I joke, Mr Wallace seems to have a lot of integrity, and the only cabinet minister who currently has a position in which he/she has intrinsic knowledge of what running the MoD entails.

How much did the German wolf packs cost during the 30s and 40s?

@fuffalobucker

2 жыл бұрын

In 1930s and 1940s Deutsche Marks?

@Revup1

2 жыл бұрын

They were a lot cheaper, but then 2/3rds of them never came home and now clutter up the ocean floor!

UK should ask America on how it's done. We've been recycling used submarines for a long time and US Navy does it on a regular basis. Sometimes we even use the older boats as moored training facilities to train Nuclear engineers. It's funny how the UK is saying it's their first because the US navy has done it for a LONG, long time.

@vick912k

2 жыл бұрын

No the US has not, the US Navy removes the whole Reactor Compartment and dumps it in a storage facility in Washington state. The UK will be the first to re-process the entire submarine reactor compartment included .

@rrpa

2 жыл бұрын

If the UK had a Hanford, probably we'd have done exactly that... But we don't

@adamatch9624

2 жыл бұрын

@@rrpa what’s Hanford?

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's not the worlds first, by any stretch. The US removes the fuel, the assemblies, and any other component with radiation, then seals up the reactor core It's like saying the UK is the worlds first ship recycler using only 10mm wrenches and working on Tuesdays(obvious sarcasm), or changing one process, when you need to add technicalities you aren't first. The US also removes many parts of the reactor but uses the compartments to use a high pressure keep the nuclear molecules at bay. Worlds first would be discovering how to not have any contamination when recycling. "It’s a meticulous process. First, the defunct sub is towed to a secure de-fueling dock where its reactor compartment is drained of all liquids to expose its spent nuclear fuel assemblies. Each assembly is then removed and placed in spent nuclear fuel casks and put on secure trains for disposal at a long-term waste storage and reprocessing plant. In the US, this is the Naval Reactor Facility at the sprawling Idaho National Laboratory, and in Russia the Mayak plutonium production and reprocessing plant in Siberia is the final destination." "Although the reactor machinery - steam generators, pumps, valves and piping - now contains no enriched uranium, the metals in it are rendered radioactive by decades of neutron bombardment shredding their atoms. So after fuel removal, the sub is towed into dry dock where cutting tools and blowtorches are used to sever the reactor compartment, plus an emptied compartment either side of it, from the submarine's hull. Then thick steel seals are welded to either end. So the canisters are not merely receptacles: they are giant high-pressure steel segments of the nuclear submarine itself - all that remains of it, in fact, as all nonradioactive submarine sections are then recycled."

@captainhindsight8779

2 жыл бұрын

Our navy is older than your country. So, yeah.

This would have been a great video but that older woman’s voice was grating on me. But on the other hand, we’ll done to the Brit’s for finding a better way to salvage more metal

World first my ass. the russians have already dismantled 2 typhoon class nuke subs a decade earlier. heres the link. (Submarine TYPHOON : Best Military Documentary).

How about using them as portable power stations for regions with electricity shortages, such as south africa.

@wulliest

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't want the very highly enriched fuel these things burn anywhere near a country with the security issues that South Africa has.

I want to buy nuclear razor blades even if they make my face glow green. Would be awesome!

What did the Russians do with Kursk?

Remediation. Great! As more and more is built around us, and "us" keeps expanding with so many more people added to our population daily, the cleanliness and safety of these things around humans is key to our survival. Excellent!

@snowflakemelter1172

2 жыл бұрын

UK population isn't growing, only immigration is .

The USA and Russia have been scrapping nuclear submarines for decades the UK is very slow off the mark and hardly a world first

@Pvt_Badger0916

2 жыл бұрын

The Russians get the Americans to pay for the dismantlement off their boats maybe the UK should do that too on safety grounds

@TheSubHunter1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pvt_Badger0916 Russia gets usually Japan USA Norway and the UK to pay for some yes but they do the work themselves which is the key in this instance

@Pvt_Badger0916

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSubHunter1 so other countries pay the Russians to dismantle their nuclear powered submarines because their shipyards are corrupt and not carry out the works needed to decommission these submarines that they build and operate for years . damn right they should carry out and offer the workforce to carry out the work needed their not paying for it ..

@TheSubHunter1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pvt_Badger0916 close the Russian shipyards have the ability to cut them up that’s for sure however the last boat cut up with foreign cash was 2009 since then the Russians have financed several on their own

@GOGS-zg7rd

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't you watch the video? Other countries cut the reactor compartment out of the boat and keep it intact. This is a different method and involves dismantling the reactor itself.

3:32 Revenge, Swiftsure & Resolution have been laid-up at that berth for 2 decades, what's the estimated half-life of the shell of the nuclear reactors that they plan to dump in Cheshire whilst they look for a hole to bury it in?

The Americans have been doing this for years, called SRP.

Christine's loving it.. 🤔 😁

Told us absolutely nothing of value!

Why not turn them into museums? Clearly you would have to remove the radioactive part. Also if a submarine has been retired since the 1980's then surely none of the technology inside should be top secret. It's just too old for it to be top secret anymore. Building some museums would do a little bit help the tourist sector and create just a hand full of jobs. It would also be very interesting to look around. And it these subs should be a object of national pride. Don't recycle them.

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Costs a lot to keep ships above ground as their hulls were meant to have pressure pushing inward(the water) and overtime the rivets will pop as the hull tries to expand outward since it has no pressure to counter act it as they were designed and built this way. This is why we dont have ships stored on dry land for long periods of time without issues occurring and why you see people store old boats they arent working on in the water. You have to build foundation to put inward pressure on the hull. TLDR: Short answer money.

@realburglazofficial2613

2 жыл бұрын

Also the Secrets Act limit is 50 years _minimum._ So, while yes the reactors are probably completely obsolete and most of the world are operating something better, they are still very much top secret. Also, @That Car Guy the rivets wont pop over time. Yes they are designed to survive the crushing pressure of the ocean, but the hull would only expand outward if the inside is pressurised. Submarines don’t counteract the external pressure by applying internal counter pressure, that would kill the crew and pop them like grapes. They are built like vacuum chambers, the external pressure is handled _structurally_ without adjusting the internal pressure above 1 atmosphere.

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@realburglazofficial2613 Always that one person trying to argue. It's literally how hulls are designed, they need inward pressure on the hull otherwise they start to peel away do to their shape design. This is how ships of all kinds handle so much pressure and movement. They thought they could get away with dry docking the HMS Warrior for example... Didn't go that way. Ships hulls deform out of water and need a lot of bracing. This is what they thought: "In the event, it was decided to dry-dock her, it being felt that her composite construction, with sharp rise of floors, would allow her to remain out of the water for an indefinite period without the hull losing shape. It was also believed that very light bilge and breast shores would suffice to support the hull and yet allow the ship's lines to be appreciated (Click here for Illustration 10), and that with her unique construction of iron, teak and elm, and being permanently out of the water, there would never be a need for major repairs to the hull in general, nor to the keel in particular." This is what actually happened... "In the case of H.M.S. Warrior it was decided to keep the vessel afloat in Portsmouth Harbour." Dry docking kills ships and is super expensive to keep them going, hence why we don't have many museum ships.

@realburglazofficial2613

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatCarGuy I’m not arguing, I’m merely debating from what I understand about submarine engineering and design that your view may not be _entirely_ correct. They don’t deform in water because the weight of the hull is evenly distributed across the water its in. It’s buoyancy is regulated so that, in the water, a submarine doesn’t actually weigh much which puts minimal stress on the superstructure of the sub. It’s not so much that a sub needs constant external pressure to maintain its shape, but more that a submarine’s hull can’t support it’s own weight out of water. In water, a submarine’s weight is supported by a minimum of about 80% hull submersion. In dry dock, the submarine’s weight is supported by around 10 points of contact on the keel. Laying in a hammock is far comfier than laying on a single plank of wood because of weight distribution. It’s the _increased_ pressure on a smaller surface area that kills ships in dry dock, not the lack of pressure of the water.

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

​@@realburglazofficial2613 "They don’t deform in water because the weight of the hull is evenly distributed across the water its in." Correct due to water pressure. "It’s not so much that a sub needs constant external pressure to maintain its shape, but more that a submarine’s hull can’t support it’s own weight out of water." Which is why it costs so much to make into a museum. You need a lot of bracing as stated above to support the structure that water pressure otherwise would have. To make the USS Iowa into a museum would have cost the US 20 million just to start, not counting yearly upkeep. "It’s the increased pressure on a smaller surface area that kills ships in dry dock, not the lack of pressure of the water." They don't just decay from points of contact, their rivets literally start to pop out as the HY-80 or 100 steel is molded to an angle and so strong, without water pressure the rivets pop. This is why we keep older ships docked, as it's so much cheaper and easier on the hull. The UK has 20 submarines docked, not dry docked as it's cheaper and easier to maintain the hull as the hull needs water pressure. "Royal Navy now has more retired submarines in storage at Devonport than it does in service. The National Audit Office (NAO) report reveals the Royal Navy now has twice as many submarines in storage as it does in service, and thee MoD has failed to dispose of any of the 20 boats decommissioned since 1980"

The US and French have been dismantling nuclear submarines for generations. Only the Russians ans UK have avoided the safe disposal of nuclear submarines. In the UK they have submarines over 60 years sitting in dock, in sea water rusting on a evident hazard to local community

@cheezybeanz1049

2 жыл бұрын

The US France and Russia only cut the ends off - that's not 'disposal'. What it says here is that the UK is attempting to go further and cut up the whole thing including the reactor. That means only having to store a small chunk of radioactivity, not a massive tube of radioactivity.

@russellmiles2861

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheezybeanz1049 firstly, the US and French have long operated both nuclear surfaces ships and submarines. They both remove the reactors and also the nuclear fuel. Which is then reprocessed so they have smaller quantity of highly reactive material which is placed in permanent storage facilities. They do the same with civil reactors. This is not complicated as reactors must be designed to insert and extract fuel rodes. We can put this video down to pre-election propaganda where successive UK government (Labor and Tory) have not allocated the funds required. This video even acknowledges the plan is far from complete with no identified long term storage facility. That fact that UK governments have left nuclear submarines some of which are over half a century old sitting in seawater is a disgrace. There are simply no French or US nuclear powered ships that have been decommissioned in such a state. In the case of aircraft carriers they lift out the compete reactors very quickly. The are defueled and dismantled. With regard submarines, the hull must be broken open to remove the reactor. Again, they are placed in dry dock and this quickly done. The carriers and ships also need to have removed huge qualities of hazardous but not nuclear waste: heavy metals, fuel and oil, cabling, etc etc. This is nothing unusual with ship breaking. That the UK has failed to do that.The length of time makes this matter harder and more costly. This is national disgrace which only the Russians are as reckless with people's lives in breaking up nuclear submarines

@garybenwell6115

2 жыл бұрын

The other countries have the facilities built to be able to dismantle the submarines, we have to build, set to work and commision these facilities to a safe standard. The time the submarines were built and way they were maintained complied to the current regulations at the time, todays regulations and working methods are completely different

@Revup1

2 жыл бұрын

WRONG. SO, I believe I am right in saying that there has been a long existing plan to dismantle UK boats in the UK, however when we became even more intimate with the EU back in 1992/3 that plan didn't meet the EU standards (even though the US and France were dismantling their boats). Interestingly the UK is back to dismantling its first boat since leaving the EU....coincidence, I think not! There was also a plan to send UK boats to the US for dismantling, but the costs were ridiculous, and the US facilities are backed up with their own cold war boats, so that solution would have taken even longer. Unlike Russia, the UK boats are at least maintained and safe. A few years ago when the Russian Navy failed to pay its energy bills to keep the boats safe the Energy company turned off the power. The State authorities had to send in the Russian Naval Infantry to have the power turned back on....lest a few old cold war Alfas and Novembers went critical! I believe I am also right in saying that the UK boats have been defuelled.

@Pvt_Badger0916

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellmiles2861 the french have decommissioned a total of 7 nuclear powered submarines since the 1970's 1 of which is in Cherbourg as a museum ship yet doesn't say how or what they did with the others or there fate or how they scrapped them . the only surface ship that is nuclear powered is the Charles de Gaulle which spends more time in port then it has at sea and the french nuclear submarines are relatively young in their service life before decommissioning so that would mean that French reactors are inefficient or the rods need and reactors need refuelling at some point in their service lifes

You don't (Given the amount waiting for dismantling, more than we have in service)

Her voice gives me so much confidence in their ability. All will be done by 2026 for sure.

Not a worlds first. Russia has already been doing this.

Torpedo?

Good job there's a woman to explain it all.

@wmanns11

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, nothing beyond layman's terms explained, yet as nervous as anything

Gonna need that sub if Russia go mental.

@thomas82311

2 жыл бұрын

It’s DECOMMISSIONED aka not useful

@DoughnutsInspace

2 жыл бұрын

Take out Putin and half the problem is solved, me thinks most Russians don't like him and are too afraid to speak up.

@thomas82311

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoughnutsInspace ? What’s a HUNK O SCRAP going do

russian subs do that themselves

These aren't the first nukes to be cut up, I have seen a photograph of the US method, they cut the complete reactor compartments out, line them up and bury them in what looked like an old quarry, that leaves a plain old steel hull to scrap like any other ship.

@klgreload

2 жыл бұрын

You just proved yourself wrong in the same comment xD. Cutting the Reactor compartment and moving it away from the submarine isnt the same as cutting up whats inside the Reactor compartment (the nuke). The UK is on about cutting up inside the Reactor compartment including the RPV.

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the US has been doing this for almost 30 years now. This isn't a worlds first. Here are a list of some, I can keep going too. And this are only submarines, not ships or carriers I could also add. ex-Seawolf (SSN-575) 1 October 1996 30 September 1997 ex-Skate (SSN-578) 14 April 1994 6 March 1995 ex-Swordfish (SSN-579) Unknown 11 September 1995 ex-Sargo (SSN-583) 14 April 1994 5 April 1995 ex-Seadragon (SSN-584) 1 October 1994 18 September 1995 ex-Skipjack (SSN-585) 17 March 1996 1 September 1998 ex-Triton (SSRN-586) 1 October 2007[15] 30 November 2009 ex-Halibut (SSGN-587) 12 July 1993 9 September 1994 ex-Scamp (SSN-588) 1990 9 September 1994 (the first) ex-Sculpin (SSN-590) 1 October 2000 30 October 2001 ex-Shark (SSN-591) 1 October 1995 28 June 1996 ex-Snook (SSN-592) 1 October 1996 30 June 1997 ex-Permit (SSN-594) 30 September 1991 20 May 1993 ex-Plunger (SSN-595) 5 January 1995 8 March 1996 ex-Barb (SSN-596) Unknown 14 March 1996 ex-Tullibee (SSN-597) 5 January 1995 1 April 1996 ex-George Washington (SSBN/SSN-598) Unknown 30 September 1998† ex-Patrick Henry (SSBN/SSN-599) 1 October 1996 31 August 1997 ex-Robert E. Lee (SSBN/SSN-601) Unknown 30 September 1991 ex-Pollack (SSN-603) 9 February 1993 17 February 1995 ex-Haddo (SSN-604) Unknown 30 June 1992 ex-Jack (SSN-605) Unknown 30 June 1992 ex-Tinosa (SSN-606) 15 July 1991 26 June 1992 ex-Dace (SSN-607) Unknown 1 January 1997 ex-Ethan Allen (SSBN/SSN-608) Unknown 30 July 1999 ex-Sam Houston (SSBN/SSN-609) 1 March 1991 3 February 1992 ex-Thomas A. Edison (SSBN/SSN-610) 1 October 1996 1 December 1997 ex-John Marshall (SSBN/SSN-611) 22 July 1992 29 March 1993 ex-Guardfish (SSN-612) Unknown 9 July 1992 ex-Flasher (SSN-613) Unknown 11 May 1994 ex-Greenling (SSN-614) 30 September 1993 18 April 1994 ex-Gato (SSN-615) Unknown 1 November 1996 ex-Haddock (SSN-621) 1 October 2000 1 October 2001 ex-Sturgeon (SSN-637) Unknown 11 December 1995 ex-Whale (SSN-638) 20 October 1995 1 July 1996 ex-Tautog (SSN-639) 15 March 2003[15] 30 September 2004 ex-Kamehameha (SSBN/SSN-642) 1 October 2001 28 February 2003 ex-James K. Polk (SSBN/SSN-645) 16 February 1999 15 July 2000 ex-Grayling (SSN-646) 18 July 1997 31 March 1998 ex-Pogy (SSN-647) 4 January 1999 12 April 2000 ex-Aspro (SSN-648) 1 October 1999 3 November 2000 ex-Sunfish (SSN-649) Unknown 31 October 1997 ex-Pargo (SSN-650) 1 October 1994 15 October 1996 ex-Queenfish (SSN-651) 1 May 1992 7 April 1993 ex-Puffer (SSN-652) 20 October 1995 12 July 1996 ex-Ray (SSN-653) 15 March 2002 30 July 2003 ex-Sand Lance (SSN-660) 1 April 1998 30 August 1999 ex-Lapon (SSN-661) 15 March 2003[15] 30 November 2004 ex-Gurnard (SSN-662) Unknown 15 October 1996 ex-Hammerhead (SSN-663) Unknown 22 November 1995 ex-Sea Devil (SSN-664) 1 March 1998 7 September 1999 ex-Guitarro (SSN-665) Unknown 18 October 1994 ex-Hawkbill (SSN-666) 1 October 1999 1 December 2000 ex-Bergall (SSN-667) Unknown 29 September 1997

@matthewmorgan6814

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the video and read the text.

@TheFilwud

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmorgan6814 I did, what is the point you are trying to make? do you want me to go into the health physics of submarine disposal? there is a reason she is waffling and not really saying much apart from numbers and dates, the same reason I won't go into detail, however I would love to know what you think I am missing! Do tell!

i love how we build these machines.....but have 0 freaking idea how to dismantle them safely, litterally learning as they go which is good an all but... you would think they would of thought this stuff through before building it then using it then letting it rust 30 years then figure it out.

The US has been doing this since 1990. In 1990, USS Scamp was the first US nuclear-powered submarine to be scrapped.

stop wasting our taxes

You ask a professional

Oh great another "Agency". More money for Govt sponsor's😂 I'm pretty sure other subs have been cut up, wasn't the Kursk scrapped?

Christine looks and talks as if she’s telling funny stories rather than a serious topic.

This is the issue with nuclear, they still do not have a long-term solution to the storage of the high-level waste. The go on about smrs etc, but what about the waste, its a problem that is yet to be solved. You cant just bury it either, it needs to be monitored for eternity due to the products of decay. Great video BTW, but wouldn't want to live too close to Devonport with these hanging around.

It's rather disingenuous to say the UK program is a 'world first'. The US has been running the Ship/Submarine Recycling Program for thirty years. Each country has taken a different path based on cost, political and environmental factors. The difference is just the final state of the reactor compartment and the primary plant. The US has a location and space for very long term storage of the entire RC at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. It's much faster and cheaper to bury the entire RC without having to cut up the most highly radioactive components. The US has almost 200 subs and over a dozen surface ships (with multiple reactors) that will have to be recycled. The costs of taking the Primary and RC apart for all of those would be horrendous.

@mrpusser0348

2 жыл бұрын

I get the impression they’re trying to prove that all components can be recycled and just bury the RPV , pressuriser and maybe the coolant pumps

@matthewmorgan6814

2 жыл бұрын

Try watching the video.

@adamatch9624

2 жыл бұрын

200 subs?

@russellmiles2861

2 жыл бұрын

The US has been dismantling and safely storing hazardous material on land. On the UK and Russia have left nuclear submarines in dock, rusting in sea water. The UK still has no final plan to store waste materials. Franch and the UK have created safe facilities on land for permanent storage. This is just propoaganda

@dgax65

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamatch9624 Roughly 200. That includes the old boats that have already been decommissioned, the ones currently in commission and the planned new construction. All will eventually need to be processed by the SRP. There are just over 60 pre-688 fast attack boats (Skipjack, Skate, Sturgeon, Permit-class), 41 Polaris/Poseidon boomers ("41 For Freedom"), 62 Los Angeles (688/688i), 18 Ohio class Trident SSBN, 3 Seawolf, 66 planned Virginia SSN and 12 Columbia SSBN. Only 38 of the Virginia have been built or funded and the Columbia class hasn't even been fully funded. Final numbers may change due to budgets and defense needs. The Virginia/Seawolf boats won't even enter SRP for at least another 30 years. I think it's safe to say we will be in the nuc recycling business for at least the rest of the century.

She sounds like she’s going to cry all the time!!

Send it into the Sun we have one planet if it dies we do.

How do you alway find women for these videos, are there no men in our defence industries?

The us has done this

@adamatch9624

2 жыл бұрын

No they haven’t it’s as if you ignored the video. The us take it all out and keep it intact the uk is dismantling it

@ThatCarGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamatch9624 It's not the world first, the US among many nations have been doing this for years. It's like saying the UK is the worlds first ship recycler using only 10mm wrenches and working on Tuesdays(obvious sarcasm), or changing one process, when you need to add technicalities you aren't first. The US also removes many parts of the reactor but uses the compartments to use a high pressure keep the nuclear molecules at bay. Worlds first would be discovering how to not have any contamination when recycling. "It’s a meticulous process. First, the defunct sub is towed to a secure de-fueling dock where its reactor compartment is drained of all liquids to expose its spent nuclear fuel assemblies. Each assembly is then removed and placed in spent nuclear fuel casks and put on secure trains for disposal at a long-term waste storage and reprocessing plant. In the US, this is the Naval Reactor Facility at the sprawling Idaho National Laboratory, and in Russia the Mayak plutonium production and reprocessing plant in Siberia is the final destination." "Although the reactor machinery - steam generators, pumps, valves and piping - now contains no enriched uranium, the metals in it are rendered radioactive by decades of neutron bombardment shredding their atoms. So after fuel removal, the sub is towed into dry dock where cutting tools and blowtorches are used to sever the reactor compartment, plus an emptied compartment either side of it, from the submarine's hull. Then thick steel seals are welded to either end. So the canisters are not merely receptacles: they are giant high-pressure steel segments of the nuclear submarine itself - all that remains of it, in fact, as all nonradioactive submarine sections are then recycled."

@Laoxxufiiccjjsdjcjcj

Жыл бұрын

@@adamatch9624 my friend does this and he’s in New York

While this may be a first for GB, the US and Russia have been dismantling nuclear subs for decades.

@arfon2000

2 жыл бұрын

I think they mean the actual reactor, I believe the Americans just bury the entire section.

@7891ph

2 жыл бұрын

@@arfon2000 No, they defuel it, drain and clean all of the coolant, then cut out the reactor compartment in one complete section, then build a dry storage containment system around it. It then gets taken to the Hanford nuclear reservation for long term storage, in this case ~100 year's or so. That's why all US Navy nuclear powered ship's get decommissioned in Bremerton Washington; Hanford is the intended final repository. Based on calculations and past experience, the rest of the reactor compartment will be cool enough that the system can be deconstructed conventionally and recycled at that time.

@arfon2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@7891ph you basically just typed what I said in more detail.

@7891ph

2 жыл бұрын

@@arfon2000 It's the lack of details that had me respond.

No report on how expensive this project is... how many delays there have been and how long decommissioned nuclear subs have sat in Plymouth?

@PB-hr3hy

2 жыл бұрын

Dude clearly did not watch the video 😂 they literally said it

@asmaar566

2 жыл бұрын

Watch till the end mate

@1chish

2 жыл бұрын

Short Attention Span Syndrome strikes again .... Outstanding 😏

First... bull, the Russians have done this already. Sadly of course we actually need these subs back in service now!

My god i know what this woman gets off on lmaoooo I can see her now playing with herself shouting out "Oh yes daddy gold connectors & steel plate hell yeah" As she fires a few eggs at the wall bwahahahahaha Why don't they just use them as power plants..... park them up all around the country & hook em up to the grid.