with great equanimity, lacan recovers from an assault by a disgruntled student
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@Dummy2577 жыл бұрын
It may have been imperfect or clumsy but this period was one of incredible intellectual activity and renewal. This was what the 80s' "reactionary revolution" aimed at destroying.
@ardesliini
4 жыл бұрын
Lacan greatly sympathized with May '68. His theory of the four discourses began as a response to the distressed students
@XX-kf8er
5 ай бұрын
shut up
@Abhishek-fe3zs
4 ай бұрын
You live in a fairy tale
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
@@ardesliini Freud's unconscious is like Plato's forms in that it attributes the primary concern to something that the subject themself cannot know. They forfeit their freedom so the psychoanalyst/priest can tell them what what lies in their unconscious/what God wants. IT'S MIND CONTROL! I assume the students in the audience are laughing because they were conditioned to believe that an older person must be wiser. But the young man was articulate in explaining his issue with Lacan's teachings. Lacan is also a follower of Hegel. Hegel says we will reach the end of history where all differences will cease. This is literally the doctrine of transhumanism. In the spirit of love, please read Deleuze and Guattari.
@DG-bb4ij2 жыл бұрын
God I wish academe today was still like this.
@tuncelcel6 жыл бұрын
İt looks like from a scene of a goddard movie haha
@inoperoscio
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYWnttyQc67VobQ.html
@phattadonnilphat79362 жыл бұрын
No phones in sight. Just people enjoyed the moment.
@monsieurlouche1231
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in another way, living in black and white... nop, not for me...
@biyiklialperen1923
Жыл бұрын
they enjoyed watching, phone users doing the same
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
So they're not phonies just because they're not on smartphones? They betray their phoniness when they side with Lacan without understanding the young man's position.
@tobiaszb6 жыл бұрын
Those moments, where the young explains and especially finishes explaining, is getting applause - his movement is lost. Later it's just a decay -sit with us and listen like a good student.. He can just escalate it or go away. But his will to be treated subjectively is nice.
@luiz44308 жыл бұрын
"Ah, pas du tout."
@GamesNestful
Ай бұрын
- Are u winning son? (Sees son in girl dress, and realises it is not son anymore) - Ah, pa do tout.
@jackrubbite917810 жыл бұрын
the interrumptor is Anatole Atlas. This was a situationist performance.
@cesarmarins
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, now a middle aged jerk.
@antoniovasquez9946
3 жыл бұрын
Situationist > Freudian boot licker
@finnmungovan8772
2 жыл бұрын
@@antoniovasquez9946 big time L take
@KOTYAR0
3 ай бұрын
Today, I see people looking like him only in porn
@oscarmejia83066 жыл бұрын
This is almost a Hollywood scene.
@TopLobster112 жыл бұрын
‘I want a Revolution’ In Žižek’s words, “That’s easy kid, what are you gonna do the next day of the Revolution?”
@fredfairley7724
8 ай бұрын
hahaha shut up.
@BasicallyBanal
7 ай бұрын
Enjoy
@anxiouzpaw
2 ай бұрын
considering that this was in 1972, just 4 years after the '68, he probably took on the streets and either organized or took part of the masses; thats what i assume he would also do the next day of the revolution
@questatesta5 жыл бұрын
That student? Albert Einstein
@bogdy7200011 жыл бұрын
philosophers should box also
@blackmichael7510 жыл бұрын
A very "symbolic" confrontation which illustrates perfectly the tension between revolutionary spontaneity and those who take refuge in intellectual language games.
@ERRATICCHEESE2
10 жыл бұрын
Yup. The kid might have been vague and inarticulate, but he's also right.
@fernandocontreras8202
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Black It is in your dimension to believe that what Lacan said is just, "intellectual language games" but pragmatically speaking, your comment is ignorant and lacking incisive points.
@kayu_music
8 жыл бұрын
Fair point, but if we're true to the meaning of language games, the moment the revolutionary started speaking, he was engaged in a language game. How does he justify himself? - through describing what he did as "authentic expression", in contrast with Lacan's inauthentic lecturing. Would it have made sense if he hadn't said that? probably not - it would have just been some random act, not necessarily expressing revolution, not necessarily authentic.
@AedarkZZ
7 жыл бұрын
the student is a stupid leftist hippie, enough said.
@mikaelnoone7304
7 жыл бұрын
The kid is not on the right. Why? Because he is not articulate. This insolent act in itself is a symptom of not being able to communicate properly, the whole point of making a big mess of the situation, the whole meaning of this apparent spontaneousity is to bring this inability to communicate to the focus. In the end, he is unable to say nothing but the word 'revolution', but the word has no meaning. Revolution has no meaning. Shouting out revolution at this situation is just a way of covering up this impotence.
@p.anphobia Жыл бұрын
the way the student tried to attack lacan by raising his hand and walking towards him and the way lacan panicked and just slapped around his arms like a t rex was hilarious
@romeozanni10 жыл бұрын
I like both. The young and the old man. They are not different, they are revolutioners - in a special way each of them...
@TheBirdThatWhistles
8 жыл бұрын
+Ro mi A revolutionary is an ultimate pessimist in the sense that s/he believes in an order other than the actual one. The difference between Lacan and the young man is that Lacan knows that his pessimism does not allow him to state but to simply comment and suggest. The young man is convinced that whatever he believes in is right hence his non-diplomatic approach.
@ObeySilence
8 жыл бұрын
+Ro mi blah blah I stand in the middle
@pureandvision4761
7 жыл бұрын
@TheBirdThatWhistles The young man is convinced that whatever the "system" is "now" ain't right.. Not that "HIS" "personal system" is right... He's trying to say, why is everyone acting like nothing is wrong with the world, like it's natural to "live like that in the system / order we are living right now ..(hes simply saying that we need a revolution, and NOT what kind of revolution)... So anyway, in my opinion if you said Lacan knows that his pessimism does not allow him to state but to simply comment and suggest... Then the other guy is saying: His realism allows him to state, comment, suggest & ACT. Because if you don't ACT, its like you did nothing.. In the end Words are just words BUT you gotta put words to action.. Or else they are just words... Isnt it fun, that everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. The kid is just "turning-keys" for other people & wanting to make them think.. You gotta put the situation in perspective.. this happened like 50 years ago.. back then "the revolution bands came up" (pink floyd, the doors, etc) and it was the first time, the "living in a lie - mentality" was popularized...
@MrComadreja666
5 ай бұрын
Blablabla One speaks nonsense onanist pseudointelctual bs, the other one is a real man of word and action...fuck postmodern sophists!
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
@@TheBirdThatWhistles You're wrong. The revolutionary approach is optimism. We're already living in an order that is imposed on the majority by a minority. Lacan is a liar because he is saying that he's just there to simply comment and suggest, but you, the poor patient, don't realize that Lacan is actually mind-controlling you. The young man is not a liar because he shares his position openly. The young man IS right. We don't have to live this way. On drugs, going to jobs we hate, allowing the minority to treat the majority like slaves. Do you know why Plato was obsessed with banning art? BECAUSE PLATO WAS A LIAR TOO.
@alejandro0133 Жыл бұрын
Never thought that Joey Ramone and Lacan would meet in these terms
@jackraiser4391
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@apes4days2542 жыл бұрын
Revolution for the sake of revolution is the most postmodern thing I've ever witnessed
@doclime4792
9 ай бұрын
and profit for the sake of profit is what you're used to seeing
@fredfairley7724
8 ай бұрын
what the fuck are you on about
@mmyllymaki3817
Ай бұрын
rebel without a cause
@flipsyboy13 жыл бұрын
Could those clothes on Lacan and especially the girl who drags the disruptor away from the table possibly be any more fabulous?
@nguyenkhanhvu23142 жыл бұрын
5:05 greatest anime plot twist
@crogersdev8 жыл бұрын
What happened to his laptop? Did it get wet? ;)
@Deleuzeshammerflow12 жыл бұрын
he broke the lull of decadent spectatorship with a situation that evoked a discourse. Debord never had such sexy hair.
@branislavhatala3067
7 ай бұрын
Debord was critiquing spectacle, that would not go well with having one on his head.
@BasicallyBanal
7 ай бұрын
@@branislavhatala3067the spectacle is not simple aesthetics
@garljoens5 жыл бұрын
So, dumbing this down (for myself), the gist here is that these self-appointed cultural/ideological analyst philosopher-kings present for a spiritually exhausted public the veneer of radical thought but ultimately know that their radical thought only amounts to a narcotic kind of spectacular entertainment? And the reply from Lacan is more or less that this Revolutionary's gestures towards urgency and"authenticity" ultimately consume themselves with a lack of revolutionary purpose or overarching vision? If that's it I guess I get both points, that certainly it is true that our communications are transpiring under urgent circumstances and speech that leads to immediate and powerful ACTION is what we really need, but I'm not really convinced that people like Lacan or Foucault or Chomsky for that matter don't have that same interest at heart. Maybe Lacan less than the other two, but if we're thinking structurally, and these detached performances of critical analysis are under the gun here then I don't see why any of these philosopher-personalities are exempt when their work doesn't and hasn't included direct hands-on revolutionary action like seizing munitions factories or kidnapping and imprisoning corrupt oligarchs. Maybe we're all made dishonest when our actions consist of anything but the absolute most clear path we're capable of seeing towards imemdiate and continual overthrow of corrupt power structures. I'm not a well learned person, I'm doin my best here. Is that kind of the gist of it?
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
You did a great summary here. However, this was almost 50 years ago. How would you now, in the blockchain age, go about disrupting those power structures? By - simply - turning off the electricity worldwide? Or entering the state of constant revolution? Mao tried to do that and failed utterly. That would eventually bring the humanity back to Stone Age. There is a shortcut, though, as Buddhism has had an answer for millennia: "色既是空,空既是色" (the material form is the same as emptiness, and emptiness the same as the material form) All these ideas about improving the current state of affairs are disillusioned because they don't touch the very nature of things that have no real existence by themselves. Zhuangzi proposed a course of action but even though admired by later generations, he was labelled a weirdo in his age.
@jaymendoza4616
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Garl you gave a nice gist to frame an audience's (me) perceptipn to better understand what happened in the video.
@teenanguyen217
3 жыл бұрын
Lacan is protected by the very institution that he seeks to reveal. The person who stepped up and disrupted him, as if symbolising a protest or revolution is ridiculed by the mob and patronised by Lacan, effectively castrating him in the eyes of the only people capable of changing the instituition. And so, nothing leads to nothing.
@BatkoMakhno-go1sr
2 ай бұрын
solid analysis
@funny32919 ай бұрын
He want a revolution so much that after leaving the lecture, he became the lead singer of a punk band called The Ramones and the rest is history.
@dauphindauphin66076 жыл бұрын
The laughter of the audience at Lacan's answer "Ah,pas du tous? says it all. How mentally poor masses are,so easily influenced ......Where are the Situationists of today?
@maximilianorodriguez1751
3 жыл бұрын
Not wearing a mask
@The5peed
3 жыл бұрын
@@maximilianorodriguez1751 Don't make me laugh... Those are just ignorants.
@Nutstixsuckabutt
3 жыл бұрын
They’re train hopping lol
@johnsierra3537
3 жыл бұрын
Being useless just as they were then
@golpeshiharan2215
2 жыл бұрын
They laughed precisely because they felt attacked when the kid implied that Lacan is bringing "justification" to their "miserable lives". Did he touch a nerve there? Maybe.
@ramirofalco3 жыл бұрын
Where can I see what was cut off at 5:15 ?
@alexiacarrasco90336 жыл бұрын
this situation is the mirror of what the guy is complaining about, a spectacle.
@max0540
Жыл бұрын
not exaclty in the same sense aha
@kvist910 жыл бұрын
Guattari?
@elephant3109
4 жыл бұрын
guattari, was busy being a militant that time. mothertrucker wouldnt waste time assaulting lacan. (i searched on guattar's bio, and it seems that he was also under lacan's supervision at la borde...)
@richrich76642 жыл бұрын
beautiful counter transference.
@OrganicTechnocrat
3 ай бұрын
Why
@milkyway7054 жыл бұрын
On 5'37, the translation is misleading: it is not "Let's hope that there wille be a new organization", but: "That things change in favor of a new organization". So that the entire sentence is: "That things change in favor of a new organization, it is not impossible that we see it being born". Which is of course consistent with the fact that Lacan then criticizes the very idea of such an organization. He obviously does not hope that such an organization will occur.
@NotSure109
Жыл бұрын
He didn't say anything anyway, the translation doesn't matter.
@camdenroad443 жыл бұрын
Bon alors... the audience is more than ready to hear..
@Karamazov94 ай бұрын
I love this man
@bad_vibes_ Жыл бұрын
lol pure class his response was basically 'yup'.
@leprisonnier79573 жыл бұрын
Bravo au frisé
@Deleuzeshammerflow11 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's how he'd explain it probably
@mahmoudseleem80063 жыл бұрын
I would say Lacan's reaction is the true because he did something unexpected, a false act
@KingsOfCydonia13 күн бұрын
A great moment. But nowadays it would be the other way round: a frustrated lecturer spilling water onto their students' desks, exclaiming passionately.
@Foymaster12 жыл бұрын
Ha! Is this student a young guy debord or what?
@HWalla234 жыл бұрын
and that student's name was,,, albert einstein
@teriyaki8643 Жыл бұрын
what did he spill? looks like his throw-up
@screensaves3 жыл бұрын
french people are the funniest people in terms of laughing at
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Lacan is french, but the young guy is a belgian. Belgian people are even funnier, so that french jokes often start with "C'est l'histoire d'un belge..."
@mikus2010
Жыл бұрын
French people are the funniest? Have you ever seen the English? Or even funnier, Americans?
@Neptunion1187 жыл бұрын
*when you read Guy Debord once*
@inoperoscio
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYWnttyQc67VobQ.html
@polnreff4112
3 жыл бұрын
Deleuze
@tcmackgeorges12
2 жыл бұрын
@@polnreff4112 the student literally says “spectacle”
@nickcarveth
11 ай бұрын
Spectacles, testicles, brandy, cigar…
@oddedges
9 ай бұрын
@@nickcarvethur all popes
@4grammaton7 жыл бұрын
I don't think I understood what either of them was trying to say.
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
The young man looks mentally ill. The late Richard Webster (from memory: you can check out his amusing essays about Lacan on his Sceptical Essays website), describing a visit by the great man to New York, says that Chomsky thought he was mad too.
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
Found it: www.richardwebster.net/lacangoestotheopera.html "Later Lacan scandalised everyone during a lecture at the Massachusetts Instititute of Technology by the way he answered a question about thought put to him by Noam Chomsky. 'We think we think with our brains,' said Lacan. 'But personally I think with my feet. That's the only way I really come into contact with anything solid. I do occasionally think with my forehead, when I bang into something. But I've seen enough electroencephalograms to know there's not the slightest trace of a thought in the brain.' When he heard this, Chomsky concluded that the lecturer must be a madman. The appearance of an English translation of Elisabeth Roudinesco's biography of Lacan affords an excellent opportunity to ponder the question of whether Chomsky, a shrewd judge of many forms of autocratic imperialism, was right about Freud's most celebrated French follower."
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
And here is the concluding paragraph: "It would be better recognise that Lacan reacted to his own personal predicament in only way he could. Having rejected God and conceived a passionate hatred for his own family and his own origins, his life's project became that of turning himself into a God before whose ineffable and impenetrable wisdom others would prostrate themselves. To the extent we have done just this, it is the sanity of our intellectual culture as whole, and not only that of Lacan, which needs to be questioned."
@N0THANKY0U
5 жыл бұрын
@@seancoleman5021 I thought the young man's message was perfectly clear: instead of listening to this guy justifying why you all live shit lives, you should band together and change the system which causes these shit lives. Not saying he's necesarily right, but that's his point.
@namastexo88604 жыл бұрын
the cigar!
@screensaves3 жыл бұрын
all in all great 8 minutes spent
@Stereotype2311 жыл бұрын
Eastwood's acting career has been spectacular. Hes political dementia doesn't change that.
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
ok!
@MarcheseDolmance14 жыл бұрын
@duffy382 Yeah...Lacan is smoking a blunt...a tuscany blunt, I suppose...:-)...
@worldofsimulacra2 ай бұрын
Plot twist, Lacan arranged the whole thing ahead of time
@flower-ld5id4 жыл бұрын
but what does equanimity mean?
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know either. Do you have access to the internet? Maybe there's a sort of a hint on Google?
@Stereotype2311 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me your favorite philosopher? I will then proceed to comment on him/her in a condescending manner to make myself look intellectually superior.
@jorisvanveen4021
6 жыл бұрын
Mohammed
@arielmarchantgallardo5751
6 жыл бұрын
Stereotype23 Nietzsche
@Fopenplop
6 жыл бұрын
you
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
Mousie Dung
@DoorKnock12916 жыл бұрын
That student's name? Albert Einstein.
@The80sWolf_3 жыл бұрын
That hippie kid is what breadtube is today
@jacob-vn6jg
3 жыл бұрын
lol no. breadtube is full of liberals
@kennedicotarelo
3 жыл бұрын
If only. It'd be epic if breadtube were full of anti-psychoanalysis situationists.
@tacob0
2 жыл бұрын
The hippie kid is a neoliberal? Ahead of his time that one. Most hippies did end up neoliberals tho so probably actually is.
@thetumans1394
2 жыл бұрын
The hippie kid is at least a revolutionary Marxist who tries to disrupt capitalist hegemony in real time (how effective he is is another question). If breadtube was half of that, breadtube would be 100 times better.
@bourgeoisie6076 Жыл бұрын
Someone’s been reading a bit of situationist literature…
@Deleuzeshammerflow11 жыл бұрын
lacan
@7thcontinent
3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@hihello-sx1sx
2 жыл бұрын
lacan
@diogo965 жыл бұрын
In brazilian portuguese we have an expression called "vergonha alheia", which translates, roughly, to something like "someone else's shame". It's when someone does something so stupid and cringeworthy that you yourself feel ashamed and humiliated just by seeing it; basically a catharsis of embarassment. Well, this video here evokes a particularly intense and obnoxious sense of "vergonha alheia". I absolutely love it.
@golpeshiharan2215
2 жыл бұрын
We do have a term for that in English. "Second hand embarrassment."
@hollovvist
2 жыл бұрын
L tbh
@monsieurlouche1231
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what i loved in several Dostoievski's novels. Strange pleasure...
@timeup2549
2 жыл бұрын
@@golpeshiharan2215 No, it’s not the same thing.
@danielamarquesdani6018
10 ай бұрын
KKKKKK simmmmmmmm concordo totalmente
@Deleuzeshammerflow11 жыл бұрын
hah, I don't disagree. My name on here may betray my bias
@rebeccafreeman622111 жыл бұрын
Anyone know who the student is?
@liberarizzi3841
5 жыл бұрын
Jean-Louis Lippert (aka Anatole Atlas, a belgian).
@squareoasis69752 жыл бұрын
The guy who interrupted looks like Maxmoefoe
@martinkryer14449 жыл бұрын
The true horror in this: that the student, who wants the revolution, who criticizes the establishment and the system, does not realize that all he truly desires is a new master.
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
***** "Dear, diary. Today I insulted another person, because I had nothing meaningful to contribute. Today was a good day".
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
***** Okay xD
@mieldewitte3098
8 жыл бұрын
+Martin You're right. At least someone here who understands what Lacan was trying to say. You read the 4 discourses? A master-position(S1) will never be able to give what the revolutionary desires. S1 denies the fact that he himself is also split by language and suffers from the same lack. A master needs to be silent if who wants to be one. The revolutionary wants S2(Le savoir-knowing). The problem is: from the moment a subject speaks, he gets lost under signifiers; language has an inherent Lack(A barred). History is a Hystory, Every revolution was caused by the hysteric who desires the knowledge to get to object a and reinstall the oneness.(Eros) He wants to return to the dual mother-child relationship of plus-de-jouir(full bliss). But from the moment an infant grows into language, it loses a part of himself and it becomes a split subject. A part of himself gets lost in the unconscious, the Real(which is situated outside of language and the Imaginary) The Real is the void, a non-realized being. Lacan actually was all about non-determination, he inspired people to accept their own lack, accepting the lack in the Other and from that moment build who they truly wanted to be. Creating their own symptom=subject; becoming a sinthome(Saint-homme(=saint-man)+symptom) People please understand, what we call normal, is somebody who build themselves an identity based upon what the Other desires. We all want to give the Other what he wants, we got lost in the maze. What Lacan wanted to do was to deconstruct that stuffed hollow man and give him his freedom back to rebuild himself, cleared from all the repressions. A trip through the fantasy.
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
Miel Dewitte Yes, you can already read the hegelian Master/Slave dichotomy into S1, where the Master never will be able to achieve what he truly wants from the Slave, because of the slaves lack. And the other way around of course. The have this very mutual lack. So yes, he is a hysteric, trying to close his 'che voui?' with a fantasy - although I also find an attempt to symbolize that he himself is the spectacle, the phallos, although I can only imagine this is exactly to cover up his own lack as a hysteric. But thats just what I read into it really quickly.
@mieldewitte3098
8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Krøyer We all got raised with the language of the first (m)Other(mother). If you read Heidegger, you understand what scientific/technical speech-> ballistics-... can do to the subject. We are alienating from the first Other and getting further and further away from object a. From the splitting point, the castration. The hysteric lives for his fantasy(Imaginary) because of too much alienation. $*A, he desires to fill in the lack of the Other(Symbolic order) through fantasmes. But even this is destined to fail, the symbolic overlaps the Imaginary, so the lack will always show up in the Symbolic again. He gets into a bond with Imaginary-Real. He needs to desire his own object a and not desire to fill in the lack in the big Other.
@raginbakin14302 жыл бұрын
Lmao I fucking love the French
@CanadianPhilosophy6 ай бұрын
Tweakin' hard 😂
@Deleuzeshammerflow12 жыл бұрын
lol @ situation in quotes
@TreeLibrary7 ай бұрын
Wow the student is kind of dreamy........wonder what's up with him now
@manolis3892 Жыл бұрын
Faut pas s'énerver comme ça papy, C'est mauvais pour le cœur 😅😅
@careeringarm11 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Derrida was there in disguise...as usual
@HM-mq6lh
7 жыл бұрын
I Play Becky [EVIL LAUGHTER AT DISTANCE]
@chescokun7 жыл бұрын
God do l love the girl in black!
@flashman453
6 жыл бұрын
#MaleGaze
@careeringarm11 жыл бұрын
oh, that's what he did. ok
@hopperthemarxist85333 жыл бұрын
That kid is what breadtube is today - situationist date cringe
@sorrygio
2 жыл бұрын
@aadhi gei checks out what? your subscription says it all leftoid. you'll never appreciate Lacan's wisdom
@furlan1743
Жыл бұрын
@aadhi gei situationists are marxist tho, OP could perfectly be a situationist for you if you had only seen his profile
@arnav2572 жыл бұрын
Vacuous.
@tchen17066 жыл бұрын
who speaks doesnt know. Who knows doesnt speak.
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
shut up
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
just kiddin
@BH-qs7vo Жыл бұрын
"Revolutionary" French word meaning spoiled, rich kid.
@dariusnikbin16952 жыл бұрын
Jus d'orange... DCN
@LionelWitchieWardrob10 жыл бұрын
Lacan is a scif-fi villain. That student should have muay-thai'ed his wrinkly post-structuralist face
@ivandrago810
9 жыл бұрын
post-structuralist? what about Le reel then?
@Hardie_Boi
7 жыл бұрын
best comment in youtube !
@srkucrickk
6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha well said. In Spain we call him "CharLacan".
@thomasradkowitsch4529 ай бұрын
Angry old man he was😂
@sans_organes2 жыл бұрын
this is soo childish and counterproductive ugh... whats his @?
@rafaelmachado89813 жыл бұрын
read anti oedipus
@gradualdecay2 жыл бұрын
What was so revolutionary about the kid's actions? He accomplished about as much as kicking over a trash can.
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Because he is a revolutionary as situationnists can get I guess. Interrupting a teacher for propaganda purposes can be effective, but you can't do that alone and without a coherent ideology. But when you think you only have to fight the 'society of the spectacle', this kind of stunt becomes an end in itself.
@Abhishek-fe3zs Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Felipe-yj2cp Жыл бұрын
The professeur had to exit the place the disrupter leave him, using his own logos, quite unconfortable. Heavy shit appealing to the ego of a boomer.
@lakiog19383 жыл бұрын
Once all revolutionaries realise that fundamentally you won't change anything until some other elites want to shake the current order up you won't be able to do anything. At the end of the day the young guy did as much as the other people he criticized did
@user-zr7iq2eg9j
3 жыл бұрын
brt.. profilna?!?
@lakiog1938
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zr7iq2eg9j Да шта са њом
@lakiog1938
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zr7iq2eg9j cek sad kad sam se vratio na vid provalio sam da si na ovo odg zasto je cetnik na lacan videu?
@thetumans1394
2 жыл бұрын
No, the revolutionary possibility offered with the end of capitalism is different to all previous revolutionary possibilities: The social revolution is possible. The revolutionary class in capitalism is the proletariat, meaning it is the masses themselves who are able to create a new society.
@flashman4536 жыл бұрын
lol, situationists are more than just "disgruntled student[s]"
@oksimoronko11 жыл бұрын
equanimity? not.
@danielalvesldiniz7 жыл бұрын
i'ts not everyday you can see two people very bad at thinking together
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
Really? Come and see a session of our parliament then.
@lara6944
4 жыл бұрын
Yet everyday some people find a way to be pretentious and condescending.
@monsieurlouche12312 жыл бұрын
That student's name? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.
@user-ft6iq3oz4f11 ай бұрын
Sauf si vous êtes crédule, l'intervention du jeune au tiers de la vidéo est une comédie, une pièce de théâtre organisée.
@BlackIcexxi5 жыл бұрын
still smoking lmao
@mainhashimh50174 жыл бұрын
Is this staged?
@Abhishek-fe3zs
Жыл бұрын
No
@amglpamglp5 жыл бұрын
The art of seeming intelligent while not articulating a single meaningful idea at all.
@claudiobianchi1129
5 жыл бұрын
there was a legitimate debate going on there, so much so that lacan himself mooved his lecture to that topic, recognizing him. It is you my friend the one who does not know about what was being talked about then
@wardo5840
5 жыл бұрын
Claudio Bianchi can you give me context or an explanation? I don’t get it
@mr.drakanator
2 жыл бұрын
Which one? Lacan speaks in far more vague and indiscernible terms than the student. The student is articulate and uses metaphorical (perhaps excessively so) language to say that a revolution is needed and that Lacan is a barricade to that. I don’t agree with the student, but my point is that this accusation could be reasonably lobbed at either of them
@vaipesz
10 ай бұрын
@@mr.drakanator "articulate" as in he parroted whatever he had been reading
@kemroolhaas4833 Жыл бұрын
Lacan went Louis de Funès on this kid 😂
@anthonybrett Жыл бұрын
I think Dostoyevsky explains it best... 'What can one expect from man since he is a creature endowed with such strange qualities? Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea; give him such economic prosperity that he would have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with ensuring the continuation of world history and even then man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly, that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself (as though that were so necessary) that men still are men and not piano keys, which even if played by the laws of nature themselves threaten to be controlled so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar."
@mahmoudseleem80063 жыл бұрын
This is not a situationist Debord says: when things are upside down, the only true moment is the one of the false. And this one is so spontaneous in a very psychoanalytic term, the student couldn't take his breath normally because of the audience, he was so real, not false. In Lacanian terms, this student will be very symbolic. The real is symbolic
@nathanielsharabi7 жыл бұрын
i think Lacan is a charlatan....
@Hardie_Boi
7 жыл бұрын
"""Chomsky intensifies"""
@flashman453
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing, i guess
@srkucrickk
6 жыл бұрын
They call him CharLacan for a reason.
@jedediahjehoshaphat3 жыл бұрын
What a hipster thing to do, brash chap
@pixelatedpizza2593 жыл бұрын
The Situationist influenced kid is more interesting than Lacan lol.
@finnmungovan8772
2 жыл бұрын
just more incorrect
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Situationism isn't very interesting but the May '68ish revolutionnary mood of this ultra-left student is inspiring.
@mr.drakanator2 жыл бұрын
The protestor frustrates me because I think he is saying something interesting, but the way he goes about expressing his beliefs is so immature that it’s almost impossible to take his side or even take him seriously.
@ManyDog
Жыл бұрын
That's just how French professors lectured.
@desigrrl08
9 ай бұрын
then it's your failing. that you expect commentators to say things in line with your aesthetics and that's more important to you than what they're saying.
@seancoleman50216 жыл бұрын
If the insanity now is alarming this reminds us that it has been worse (at times) in the past. Who is the most ridiculous: Lacan, the protester or the audience? Howard Kirk would have enjoyed it, though. There are a few amusing essays about Lacan by the late Richard Webster on his Sceptical Essays website.
@Ihatemyusernamemore Жыл бұрын
That impudent boy shoulda got the bash, these Lacan students are too tolerant, if I was in a crowd seeing a great mentor that I respect and someone did that to them they wouldn't get off so lightly
@noluntas2 жыл бұрын
french people
@kvothekingkiller17543 жыл бұрын
The student would definitely have been a femboy if he was alive today
@bahman6035
3 жыл бұрын
he is still alive.
@lolotroll26 жыл бұрын
>french culture
@BigBossIsBack7 жыл бұрын
Hegel was a mistake.
@Cd5ssmffan
3 жыл бұрын
cope
@BigBossIsBack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cd5ssmffan enjoy ur cholera
@Cd5ssmffan
3 жыл бұрын
@@BigBossIsBack rent free
@BigBossIsBack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cd5ssmffan I'm sure nobody pays rent in your non-existent socialist utopia lmaooo
Пікірлер: 285
It may have been imperfect or clumsy but this period was one of incredible intellectual activity and renewal. This was what the 80s' "reactionary revolution" aimed at destroying.
@ardesliini
4 жыл бұрын
Lacan greatly sympathized with May '68. His theory of the four discourses began as a response to the distressed students
@XX-kf8er
5 ай бұрын
shut up
@Abhishek-fe3zs
4 ай бұрын
You live in a fairy tale
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
@@ardesliini Freud's unconscious is like Plato's forms in that it attributes the primary concern to something that the subject themself cannot know. They forfeit their freedom so the psychoanalyst/priest can tell them what what lies in their unconscious/what God wants. IT'S MIND CONTROL! I assume the students in the audience are laughing because they were conditioned to believe that an older person must be wiser. But the young man was articulate in explaining his issue with Lacan's teachings. Lacan is also a follower of Hegel. Hegel says we will reach the end of history where all differences will cease. This is literally the doctrine of transhumanism. In the spirit of love, please read Deleuze and Guattari.
God I wish academe today was still like this.
İt looks like from a scene of a goddard movie haha
@inoperoscio
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYWnttyQc67VobQ.html
No phones in sight. Just people enjoyed the moment.
@monsieurlouche1231
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in another way, living in black and white... nop, not for me...
@biyiklialperen1923
Жыл бұрын
they enjoyed watching, phone users doing the same
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
So they're not phonies just because they're not on smartphones? They betray their phoniness when they side with Lacan without understanding the young man's position.
Those moments, where the young explains and especially finishes explaining, is getting applause - his movement is lost. Later it's just a decay -sit with us and listen like a good student.. He can just escalate it or go away. But his will to be treated subjectively is nice.
"Ah, pas du tout."
@GamesNestful
Ай бұрын
- Are u winning son? (Sees son in girl dress, and realises it is not son anymore) - Ah, pa do tout.
the interrumptor is Anatole Atlas. This was a situationist performance.
@cesarmarins
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, now a middle aged jerk.
@antoniovasquez9946
3 жыл бұрын
Situationist > Freudian boot licker
@finnmungovan8772
2 жыл бұрын
@@antoniovasquez9946 big time L take
@KOTYAR0
3 ай бұрын
Today, I see people looking like him only in porn
This is almost a Hollywood scene.
‘I want a Revolution’ In Žižek’s words, “That’s easy kid, what are you gonna do the next day of the Revolution?”
@fredfairley7724
8 ай бұрын
hahaha shut up.
@BasicallyBanal
7 ай бұрын
Enjoy
@anxiouzpaw
2 ай бұрын
considering that this was in 1972, just 4 years after the '68, he probably took on the streets and either organized or took part of the masses; thats what i assume he would also do the next day of the revolution
That student? Albert Einstein
philosophers should box also
A very "symbolic" confrontation which illustrates perfectly the tension between revolutionary spontaneity and those who take refuge in intellectual language games.
@ERRATICCHEESE2
10 жыл бұрын
Yup. The kid might have been vague and inarticulate, but he's also right.
@fernandocontreras8202
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Black It is in your dimension to believe that what Lacan said is just, "intellectual language games" but pragmatically speaking, your comment is ignorant and lacking incisive points.
@kayu_music
8 жыл бұрын
Fair point, but if we're true to the meaning of language games, the moment the revolutionary started speaking, he was engaged in a language game. How does he justify himself? - through describing what he did as "authentic expression", in contrast with Lacan's inauthentic lecturing. Would it have made sense if he hadn't said that? probably not - it would have just been some random act, not necessarily expressing revolution, not necessarily authentic.
@AedarkZZ
7 жыл бұрын
the student is a stupid leftist hippie, enough said.
@mikaelnoone7304
7 жыл бұрын
The kid is not on the right. Why? Because he is not articulate. This insolent act in itself is a symptom of not being able to communicate properly, the whole point of making a big mess of the situation, the whole meaning of this apparent spontaneousity is to bring this inability to communicate to the focus. In the end, he is unable to say nothing but the word 'revolution', but the word has no meaning. Revolution has no meaning. Shouting out revolution at this situation is just a way of covering up this impotence.
the way the student tried to attack lacan by raising his hand and walking towards him and the way lacan panicked and just slapped around his arms like a t rex was hilarious
I like both. The young and the old man. They are not different, they are revolutioners - in a special way each of them...
@TheBirdThatWhistles
8 жыл бұрын
+Ro mi A revolutionary is an ultimate pessimist in the sense that s/he believes in an order other than the actual one. The difference between Lacan and the young man is that Lacan knows that his pessimism does not allow him to state but to simply comment and suggest. The young man is convinced that whatever he believes in is right hence his non-diplomatic approach.
@ObeySilence
8 жыл бұрын
+Ro mi blah blah I stand in the middle
@pureandvision4761
7 жыл бұрын
@TheBirdThatWhistles The young man is convinced that whatever the "system" is "now" ain't right.. Not that "HIS" "personal system" is right... He's trying to say, why is everyone acting like nothing is wrong with the world, like it's natural to "live like that in the system / order we are living right now ..(hes simply saying that we need a revolution, and NOT what kind of revolution)... So anyway, in my opinion if you said Lacan knows that his pessimism does not allow him to state but to simply comment and suggest... Then the other guy is saying: His realism allows him to state, comment, suggest & ACT. Because if you don't ACT, its like you did nothing.. In the end Words are just words BUT you gotta put words to action.. Or else they are just words... Isnt it fun, that everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. The kid is just "turning-keys" for other people & wanting to make them think.. You gotta put the situation in perspective.. this happened like 50 years ago.. back then "the revolution bands came up" (pink floyd, the doors, etc) and it was the first time, the "living in a lie - mentality" was popularized...
@MrComadreja666
5 ай бұрын
Blablabla One speaks nonsense onanist pseudointelctual bs, the other one is a real man of word and action...fuck postmodern sophists!
@aesop1451
2 ай бұрын
@@TheBirdThatWhistles You're wrong. The revolutionary approach is optimism. We're already living in an order that is imposed on the majority by a minority. Lacan is a liar because he is saying that he's just there to simply comment and suggest, but you, the poor patient, don't realize that Lacan is actually mind-controlling you. The young man is not a liar because he shares his position openly. The young man IS right. We don't have to live this way. On drugs, going to jobs we hate, allowing the minority to treat the majority like slaves. Do you know why Plato was obsessed with banning art? BECAUSE PLATO WAS A LIAR TOO.
Never thought that Joey Ramone and Lacan would meet in these terms
@jackraiser4391
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
Revolution for the sake of revolution is the most postmodern thing I've ever witnessed
@doclime4792
9 ай бұрын
and profit for the sake of profit is what you're used to seeing
@fredfairley7724
8 ай бұрын
what the fuck are you on about
@mmyllymaki3817
Ай бұрын
rebel without a cause
Could those clothes on Lacan and especially the girl who drags the disruptor away from the table possibly be any more fabulous?
5:05 greatest anime plot twist
What happened to his laptop? Did it get wet? ;)
he broke the lull of decadent spectatorship with a situation that evoked a discourse. Debord never had such sexy hair.
@branislavhatala3067
7 ай бұрын
Debord was critiquing spectacle, that would not go well with having one on his head.
@BasicallyBanal
7 ай бұрын
@@branislavhatala3067the spectacle is not simple aesthetics
So, dumbing this down (for myself), the gist here is that these self-appointed cultural/ideological analyst philosopher-kings present for a spiritually exhausted public the veneer of radical thought but ultimately know that their radical thought only amounts to a narcotic kind of spectacular entertainment? And the reply from Lacan is more or less that this Revolutionary's gestures towards urgency and"authenticity" ultimately consume themselves with a lack of revolutionary purpose or overarching vision? If that's it I guess I get both points, that certainly it is true that our communications are transpiring under urgent circumstances and speech that leads to immediate and powerful ACTION is what we really need, but I'm not really convinced that people like Lacan or Foucault or Chomsky for that matter don't have that same interest at heart. Maybe Lacan less than the other two, but if we're thinking structurally, and these detached performances of critical analysis are under the gun here then I don't see why any of these philosopher-personalities are exempt when their work doesn't and hasn't included direct hands-on revolutionary action like seizing munitions factories or kidnapping and imprisoning corrupt oligarchs. Maybe we're all made dishonest when our actions consist of anything but the absolute most clear path we're capable of seeing towards imemdiate and continual overthrow of corrupt power structures. I'm not a well learned person, I'm doin my best here. Is that kind of the gist of it?
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
You did a great summary here. However, this was almost 50 years ago. How would you now, in the blockchain age, go about disrupting those power structures? By - simply - turning off the electricity worldwide? Or entering the state of constant revolution? Mao tried to do that and failed utterly. That would eventually bring the humanity back to Stone Age. There is a shortcut, though, as Buddhism has had an answer for millennia: "色既是空,空既是色" (the material form is the same as emptiness, and emptiness the same as the material form) All these ideas about improving the current state of affairs are disillusioned because they don't touch the very nature of things that have no real existence by themselves. Zhuangzi proposed a course of action but even though admired by later generations, he was labelled a weirdo in his age.
@jaymendoza4616
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Garl you gave a nice gist to frame an audience's (me) perceptipn to better understand what happened in the video.
@teenanguyen217
3 жыл бұрын
Lacan is protected by the very institution that he seeks to reveal. The person who stepped up and disrupted him, as if symbolising a protest or revolution is ridiculed by the mob and patronised by Lacan, effectively castrating him in the eyes of the only people capable of changing the instituition. And so, nothing leads to nothing.
@BatkoMakhno-go1sr
2 ай бұрын
solid analysis
He want a revolution so much that after leaving the lecture, he became the lead singer of a punk band called The Ramones and the rest is history.
The laughter of the audience at Lacan's answer "Ah,pas du tous? says it all. How mentally poor masses are,so easily influenced ......Where are the Situationists of today?
@maximilianorodriguez1751
3 жыл бұрын
Not wearing a mask
@The5peed
3 жыл бұрын
@@maximilianorodriguez1751 Don't make me laugh... Those are just ignorants.
@Nutstixsuckabutt
3 жыл бұрын
They’re train hopping lol
@johnsierra3537
3 жыл бұрын
Being useless just as they were then
@golpeshiharan2215
2 жыл бұрын
They laughed precisely because they felt attacked when the kid implied that Lacan is bringing "justification" to their "miserable lives". Did he touch a nerve there? Maybe.
Where can I see what was cut off at 5:15 ?
this situation is the mirror of what the guy is complaining about, a spectacle.
@max0540
Жыл бұрын
not exaclty in the same sense aha
Guattari?
@elephant3109
4 жыл бұрын
guattari, was busy being a militant that time. mothertrucker wouldnt waste time assaulting lacan. (i searched on guattar's bio, and it seems that he was also under lacan's supervision at la borde...)
beautiful counter transference.
@OrganicTechnocrat
3 ай бұрын
Why
On 5'37, the translation is misleading: it is not "Let's hope that there wille be a new organization", but: "That things change in favor of a new organization". So that the entire sentence is: "That things change in favor of a new organization, it is not impossible that we see it being born". Which is of course consistent with the fact that Lacan then criticizes the very idea of such an organization. He obviously does not hope that such an organization will occur.
@NotSure109
Жыл бұрын
He didn't say anything anyway, the translation doesn't matter.
Bon alors... the audience is more than ready to hear..
I love this man
lol pure class his response was basically 'yup'.
Bravo au frisé
I mean, that's how he'd explain it probably
I would say Lacan's reaction is the true because he did something unexpected, a false act
A great moment. But nowadays it would be the other way round: a frustrated lecturer spilling water onto their students' desks, exclaiming passionately.
Ha! Is this student a young guy debord or what?
and that student's name was,,, albert einstein
what did he spill? looks like his throw-up
french people are the funniest people in terms of laughing at
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Lacan is french, but the young guy is a belgian. Belgian people are even funnier, so that french jokes often start with "C'est l'histoire d'un belge..."
@mikus2010
Жыл бұрын
French people are the funniest? Have you ever seen the English? Or even funnier, Americans?
*when you read Guy Debord once*
@inoperoscio
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYWnttyQc67VobQ.html
@polnreff4112
3 жыл бұрын
Deleuze
@tcmackgeorges12
2 жыл бұрын
@@polnreff4112 the student literally says “spectacle”
@nickcarveth
11 ай бұрын
Spectacles, testicles, brandy, cigar…
@oddedges
9 ай бұрын
@@nickcarvethur all popes
I don't think I understood what either of them was trying to say.
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
The young man looks mentally ill. The late Richard Webster (from memory: you can check out his amusing essays about Lacan on his Sceptical Essays website), describing a visit by the great man to New York, says that Chomsky thought he was mad too.
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
Found it: www.richardwebster.net/lacangoestotheopera.html "Later Lacan scandalised everyone during a lecture at the Massachusetts Instititute of Technology by the way he answered a question about thought put to him by Noam Chomsky. 'We think we think with our brains,' said Lacan. 'But personally I think with my feet. That's the only way I really come into contact with anything solid. I do occasionally think with my forehead, when I bang into something. But I've seen enough electroencephalograms to know there's not the slightest trace of a thought in the brain.' When he heard this, Chomsky concluded that the lecturer must be a madman. The appearance of an English translation of Elisabeth Roudinesco's biography of Lacan affords an excellent opportunity to ponder the question of whether Chomsky, a shrewd judge of many forms of autocratic imperialism, was right about Freud's most celebrated French follower."
@seancoleman5021
6 жыл бұрын
And here is the concluding paragraph: "It would be better recognise that Lacan reacted to his own personal predicament in only way he could. Having rejected God and conceived a passionate hatred for his own family and his own origins, his life's project became that of turning himself into a God before whose ineffable and impenetrable wisdom others would prostrate themselves. To the extent we have done just this, it is the sanity of our intellectual culture as whole, and not only that of Lacan, which needs to be questioned."
@N0THANKY0U
5 жыл бұрын
@@seancoleman5021 I thought the young man's message was perfectly clear: instead of listening to this guy justifying why you all live shit lives, you should band together and change the system which causes these shit lives. Not saying he's necesarily right, but that's his point.
the cigar!
all in all great 8 minutes spent
Eastwood's acting career has been spectacular. Hes political dementia doesn't change that.
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
ok!
@duffy382 Yeah...Lacan is smoking a blunt...a tuscany blunt, I suppose...:-)...
Plot twist, Lacan arranged the whole thing ahead of time
but what does equanimity mean?
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know either. Do you have access to the internet? Maybe there's a sort of a hint on Google?
Could you please tell me your favorite philosopher? I will then proceed to comment on him/her in a condescending manner to make myself look intellectually superior.
@jorisvanveen4021
6 жыл бұрын
Mohammed
@arielmarchantgallardo5751
6 жыл бұрын
Stereotype23 Nietzsche
@Fopenplop
6 жыл бұрын
you
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
Mousie Dung
That student's name? Albert Einstein.
That hippie kid is what breadtube is today
@jacob-vn6jg
3 жыл бұрын
lol no. breadtube is full of liberals
@kennedicotarelo
3 жыл бұрын
If only. It'd be epic if breadtube were full of anti-psychoanalysis situationists.
@tacob0
2 жыл бұрын
The hippie kid is a neoliberal? Ahead of his time that one. Most hippies did end up neoliberals tho so probably actually is.
@thetumans1394
2 жыл бұрын
The hippie kid is at least a revolutionary Marxist who tries to disrupt capitalist hegemony in real time (how effective he is is another question). If breadtube was half of that, breadtube would be 100 times better.
Someone’s been reading a bit of situationist literature…
lacan
@7thcontinent
3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@hihello-sx1sx
2 жыл бұрын
lacan
In brazilian portuguese we have an expression called "vergonha alheia", which translates, roughly, to something like "someone else's shame". It's when someone does something so stupid and cringeworthy that you yourself feel ashamed and humiliated just by seeing it; basically a catharsis of embarassment. Well, this video here evokes a particularly intense and obnoxious sense of "vergonha alheia". I absolutely love it.
@golpeshiharan2215
2 жыл бұрын
We do have a term for that in English. "Second hand embarrassment."
@hollovvist
2 жыл бұрын
L tbh
@monsieurlouche1231
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what i loved in several Dostoievski's novels. Strange pleasure...
@timeup2549
2 жыл бұрын
@@golpeshiharan2215 No, it’s not the same thing.
@danielamarquesdani6018
10 ай бұрын
KKKKKK simmmmmmmm concordo totalmente
hah, I don't disagree. My name on here may betray my bias
Anyone know who the student is?
@liberarizzi3841
5 жыл бұрын
Jean-Louis Lippert (aka Anatole Atlas, a belgian).
The guy who interrupted looks like Maxmoefoe
The true horror in this: that the student, who wants the revolution, who criticizes the establishment and the system, does not realize that all he truly desires is a new master.
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
***** "Dear, diary. Today I insulted another person, because I had nothing meaningful to contribute. Today was a good day".
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
***** Okay xD
@mieldewitte3098
8 жыл бұрын
+Martin You're right. At least someone here who understands what Lacan was trying to say. You read the 4 discourses? A master-position(S1) will never be able to give what the revolutionary desires. S1 denies the fact that he himself is also split by language and suffers from the same lack. A master needs to be silent if who wants to be one. The revolutionary wants S2(Le savoir-knowing). The problem is: from the moment a subject speaks, he gets lost under signifiers; language has an inherent Lack(A barred). History is a Hystory, Every revolution was caused by the hysteric who desires the knowledge to get to object a and reinstall the oneness.(Eros) He wants to return to the dual mother-child relationship of plus-de-jouir(full bliss). But from the moment an infant grows into language, it loses a part of himself and it becomes a split subject. A part of himself gets lost in the unconscious, the Real(which is situated outside of language and the Imaginary) The Real is the void, a non-realized being. Lacan actually was all about non-determination, he inspired people to accept their own lack, accepting the lack in the Other and from that moment build who they truly wanted to be. Creating their own symptom=subject; becoming a sinthome(Saint-homme(=saint-man)+symptom) People please understand, what we call normal, is somebody who build themselves an identity based upon what the Other desires. We all want to give the Other what he wants, we got lost in the maze. What Lacan wanted to do was to deconstruct that stuffed hollow man and give him his freedom back to rebuild himself, cleared from all the repressions. A trip through the fantasy.
@martinkryer1444
8 жыл бұрын
Miel Dewitte Yes, you can already read the hegelian Master/Slave dichotomy into S1, where the Master never will be able to achieve what he truly wants from the Slave, because of the slaves lack. And the other way around of course. The have this very mutual lack. So yes, he is a hysteric, trying to close his 'che voui?' with a fantasy - although I also find an attempt to symbolize that he himself is the spectacle, the phallos, although I can only imagine this is exactly to cover up his own lack as a hysteric. But thats just what I read into it really quickly.
@mieldewitte3098
8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Krøyer We all got raised with the language of the first (m)Other(mother). If you read Heidegger, you understand what scientific/technical speech-> ballistics-... can do to the subject. We are alienating from the first Other and getting further and further away from object a. From the splitting point, the castration. The hysteric lives for his fantasy(Imaginary) because of too much alienation. $*A, he desires to fill in the lack of the Other(Symbolic order) through fantasmes. But even this is destined to fail, the symbolic overlaps the Imaginary, so the lack will always show up in the Symbolic again. He gets into a bond with Imaginary-Real. He needs to desire his own object a and not desire to fill in the lack in the big Other.
Lmao I fucking love the French
Tweakin' hard 😂
lol @ situation in quotes
Wow the student is kind of dreamy........wonder what's up with him now
Faut pas s'énerver comme ça papy, C'est mauvais pour le cœur 😅😅
I'm sure Derrida was there in disguise...as usual
@HM-mq6lh
7 жыл бұрын
I Play Becky [EVIL LAUGHTER AT DISTANCE]
God do l love the girl in black!
@flashman453
6 жыл бұрын
#MaleGaze
oh, that's what he did. ok
That kid is what breadtube is today - situationist date cringe
@sorrygio
2 жыл бұрын
@aadhi gei checks out what? your subscription says it all leftoid. you'll never appreciate Lacan's wisdom
@furlan1743
Жыл бұрын
@aadhi gei situationists are marxist tho, OP could perfectly be a situationist for you if you had only seen his profile
Vacuous.
who speaks doesnt know. Who knows doesnt speak.
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
shut up
@garljoens
5 жыл бұрын
just kiddin
"Revolutionary" French word meaning spoiled, rich kid.
Jus d'orange... DCN
Lacan is a scif-fi villain. That student should have muay-thai'ed his wrinkly post-structuralist face
@ivandrago810
9 жыл бұрын
post-structuralist? what about Le reel then?
@Hardie_Boi
7 жыл бұрын
best comment in youtube !
@srkucrickk
6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha well said. In Spain we call him "CharLacan".
Angry old man he was😂
this is soo childish and counterproductive ugh... whats his @?
read anti oedipus
What was so revolutionary about the kid's actions? He accomplished about as much as kicking over a trash can.
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Because he is a revolutionary as situationnists can get I guess. Interrupting a teacher for propaganda purposes can be effective, but you can't do that alone and without a coherent ideology. But when you think you only have to fight the 'society of the spectacle', this kind of stunt becomes an end in itself.
Lol
The professeur had to exit the place the disrupter leave him, using his own logos, quite unconfortable. Heavy shit appealing to the ego of a boomer.
Once all revolutionaries realise that fundamentally you won't change anything until some other elites want to shake the current order up you won't be able to do anything. At the end of the day the young guy did as much as the other people he criticized did
@user-zr7iq2eg9j
3 жыл бұрын
brt.. profilna?!?
@lakiog1938
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zr7iq2eg9j Да шта са њом
@lakiog1938
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zr7iq2eg9j cek sad kad sam se vratio na vid provalio sam da si na ovo odg zasto je cetnik na lacan videu?
@thetumans1394
2 жыл бұрын
No, the revolutionary possibility offered with the end of capitalism is different to all previous revolutionary possibilities: The social revolution is possible. The revolutionary class in capitalism is the proletariat, meaning it is the masses themselves who are able to create a new society.
lol, situationists are more than just "disgruntled student[s]"
equanimity? not.
i'ts not everyday you can see two people very bad at thinking together
@radovanskultety6867
4 жыл бұрын
Really? Come and see a session of our parliament then.
@lara6944
4 жыл бұрын
Yet everyday some people find a way to be pretentious and condescending.
That student's name? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.
Sauf si vous êtes crédule, l'intervention du jeune au tiers de la vidéo est une comédie, une pièce de théâtre organisée.
still smoking lmao
Is this staged?
@Abhishek-fe3zs
Жыл бұрын
No
The art of seeming intelligent while not articulating a single meaningful idea at all.
@claudiobianchi1129
5 жыл бұрын
there was a legitimate debate going on there, so much so that lacan himself mooved his lecture to that topic, recognizing him. It is you my friend the one who does not know about what was being talked about then
@wardo5840
5 жыл бұрын
Claudio Bianchi can you give me context or an explanation? I don’t get it
@mr.drakanator
2 жыл бұрын
Which one? Lacan speaks in far more vague and indiscernible terms than the student. The student is articulate and uses metaphorical (perhaps excessively so) language to say that a revolution is needed and that Lacan is a barricade to that. I don’t agree with the student, but my point is that this accusation could be reasonably lobbed at either of them
@vaipesz
10 ай бұрын
@@mr.drakanator "articulate" as in he parroted whatever he had been reading
Lacan went Louis de Funès on this kid 😂
I think Dostoyevsky explains it best... 'What can one expect from man since he is a creature endowed with such strange qualities? Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea; give him such economic prosperity that he would have nothing else to do but sleep, eat cakes and busy himself with ensuring the continuation of world history and even then man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element. It is just his fantastic dreams, his vulgar folly, that he will desire to retain, simply in order to prove to himself (as though that were so necessary) that men still are men and not piano keys, which even if played by the laws of nature themselves threaten to be controlled so completely that soon one will be able to desire nothing but by the calendar."
This is not a situationist Debord says: when things are upside down, the only true moment is the one of the false. And this one is so spontaneous in a very psychoanalytic term, the student couldn't take his breath normally because of the audience, he was so real, not false. In Lacanian terms, this student will be very symbolic. The real is symbolic
i think Lacan is a charlatan....
@Hardie_Boi
7 жыл бұрын
"""Chomsky intensifies"""
@flashman453
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing, i guess
@srkucrickk
6 жыл бұрын
They call him CharLacan for a reason.
What a hipster thing to do, brash chap
The Situationist influenced kid is more interesting than Lacan lol.
@finnmungovan8772
2 жыл бұрын
just more incorrect
@turtlecraft7996
2 жыл бұрын
Situationism isn't very interesting but the May '68ish revolutionnary mood of this ultra-left student is inspiring.
The protestor frustrates me because I think he is saying something interesting, but the way he goes about expressing his beliefs is so immature that it’s almost impossible to take his side or even take him seriously.
@ManyDog
Жыл бұрын
That's just how French professors lectured.
@desigrrl08
9 ай бұрын
then it's your failing. that you expect commentators to say things in line with your aesthetics and that's more important to you than what they're saying.
If the insanity now is alarming this reminds us that it has been worse (at times) in the past. Who is the most ridiculous: Lacan, the protester or the audience? Howard Kirk would have enjoyed it, though. There are a few amusing essays about Lacan by the late Richard Webster on his Sceptical Essays website.
That impudent boy shoulda got the bash, these Lacan students are too tolerant, if I was in a crowd seeing a great mentor that I respect and someone did that to them they wouldn't get off so lightly
french people
The student would definitely have been a femboy if he was alive today
@bahman6035
3 жыл бұрын
he is still alive.
>french culture
Hegel was a mistake.
@Cd5ssmffan
3 жыл бұрын
cope
@BigBossIsBack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cd5ssmffan enjoy ur cholera
@Cd5ssmffan
3 жыл бұрын
@@BigBossIsBack rent free
@BigBossIsBack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cd5ssmffan I'm sure nobody pays rent in your non-existent socialist utopia lmaooo
The student has autism