As a former Paratrooper in the US Army I just want to express my admiration and respect to the attention to detail and discipline of these great Soldiers. Much love and respect. Hopefully, young people in the UK will follow their excellent example.

@maryreilly5092

2 ай бұрын

I would like to express my Admiration and Appreciation to you, Sir. My Father-in-Law served in the US Army, during the Korean War. My Cousin died in a POW camp during the Korean War and my Husband's Uncle waa a survivor of the USS Indianapolis in WW II.

@reneevasquez3540

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service. Proud to say my uncle served as a paratrooper,101st Airborne during WWII. Blessings to you.

@gwenstone3903

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for protecting our rights 🙏 so that we are free to sleep safely in our country God Bless You and all our soldiers 🙏

@frankberger7035

12 күн бұрын

I'm sure the imported 3rd world of islamic stone age believers will enrich England like every other nation they arrived on our shores in.

@theresamnsota3925

9 күн бұрын

My cousin was a paratrooper in the 82nd during Afghanistan and Iraq. There’s something special about paratroopers who risk life and limb like they do leaping from planes.

the pipes of my ancesters touches my heart and soul every time i hear them.

@lynnkramer1211

Ай бұрын

When this came on, my cat looked at me inquisitively and then went straight away to his sandbox to crap!

@danieldravot341

Ай бұрын

Ancestors . . .

@TheWarforged

Ай бұрын

@TalorcMacAllan-rj3nr whoosh.

@jenniferloving9054

17 күн бұрын

Same!

@dawsonschmidt3714

4 күн бұрын

​@@lynnkramer1211scared the shiite out of em?

I’m an American & yet my heart is stirred when I hear Bagpipes & I nearly burst with Pride when I see the Marching. “ Bros under the Skin”! STAY STRONG!

@LakotaDarkclouds

3 күн бұрын

My family goes all the way to William Wallis. The pipers do him proud indeed.

I remember being a young soldier in a cold desert in January 1991, our captain said "rest easy, we have the Jock's on our flank" true words.....

@seanmcilvenie9097

2 ай бұрын

I was on your flanks.

@danieldravot341

Ай бұрын

The plural of Jock is Jocks . . .

@davebooth5655

Ай бұрын

@@danieldravot341 Says who?

@birchthebirch4593

Ай бұрын

I was there too laddie

@mmckeating3800

Ай бұрын

I was there (Not a jock) but 7th armoured. We covered the flank until the right turn into Kuwait.

Loved the non invasive informative commentary. What superb performance the Irish Guards gave today.

Кельтские волынки и барабаны вызывают древний отклик в душе. Сердце начинает биться в их ритме! Огромное спасибо! Получила большое удовольствие. Восхищение и уважение за сохранение традиций!

I was living in Malaysia with my family (Australian) in 1975 just after the fall of Saigon - Dad was in the RAAF. I met an Australian Army Infantryman from Lavarack Barracks in Townsville, who was doing a stint with his mob 2/4 RAR at Butterworth Airbase at the same time. Long story short, we got married on base and we had the Battalion Pipers pipe us in and out of the Chapel and playing at the Wedding Reception - they wore the exact colour kilts as the Pipers in this clip. Thank you for raising the memories from a very special time.

@karifredrikson-lr1mm

2 ай бұрын

An Additional Blessing on your Day!

@shirleyjenkins11

2 ай бұрын

One of my cousins was stationed at Butterworth then.

@noraemma6809

2 ай бұрын

My lovely Grandfather served in India and South Africa but wasn’t free when he came home he died from colon cancer At 70 but my Father People from `KERRY HATED ENGLAND THEY WERE ALL I.R.A AND HIS PEOPLE SANG REBELS SONGS BUT THEY HAD LAND ALL THE CLIFFORDS IN KERRY HAD LAND in Co Clare they said we were English Cause of our name But I love Rebel songs I’m my Kerry Fathers Daughter my mother wanted to stay in England but my father said no So we were all born on the Farm in Kerry My Dad was a good Catholic The Rosary was said but when he died my mother tried but Not Good Our friends would come into our house My mother was Not as strict so My mother We all came toBOSTON

@milesbrown8016

2 ай бұрын

Well done, hope you made a good marriage choice

@celticwoodworking8706

2 ай бұрын

The color is called "Saffron" , most of the Irish Regiments wore that color.

So, Irish pipers leading the Scots Guard while playing 'The Wearin' of The Green' in London. Great!

@SoleLime.

4 ай бұрын

Irish takeover

@ottobrandenburg-xk4om

4 ай бұрын

When is Welsh guards turn ?

@la_old_salt2241

4 ай бұрын

Whatever works!

@purdysanchez

4 ай бұрын

It's cool to see someone from the dragon ball state replying.

@MikeDrew01

3 ай бұрын

I believe it's also known as "The Rising of the Moon"

So beautifully done. What a treasure to watch.

I love the pomp and ceremony of my country and I never ever want to see this change we need to fight to keep our ways.

Great display! Also, it's like the weather decided to give the Scots and Irish a good shower to make them feel at home...

As an american, this is one military tradition i am jealous of. Military marches lead by pipers, parading through town is so badass

@TheKingsGuardsChannel

4 ай бұрын

So glad you enjoy the tradition! 🇬🇧🇺🇸

@Finderskeepers.

4 ай бұрын

Check out the The Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo. The highlight for me is the Scottish regiments being lead by pipers. The US marines and their traditions at the Tomb of the unknown soldier is something I hold in high esteem.

@user-ei3dq2dw6i

3 ай бұрын

Respect to USA from the UK

@blackrock1961

2 ай бұрын

I may have misunderstood your comment about the US Marines and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. So, forgive me if I'm mistaken, but it seems like you said that the Marines guard the Tomb. It isn't the Marines who guard the Tomb. It is the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment of the United States Army, "The Old Guard", who stands watch over the Tomb. The Old Guard is the oldest active regiment.

WOW, those Guarded Pipers are exceptionally Irish!

@anacletwilliams8315

Ай бұрын

Yes, they are.

Just loved the performance of the Irish guards. Always refreshing to see them in "action"

@stephensmith4480

5 ай бұрын

They always look so smart in their Saffron Kilts and Green Uniform, plus it was my Grandfathers Regiment in WW1.

The pipes and drums blasting the sash my father wore 🥁🥁 Absolutely brilliant ,,🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@cycleSCUBA

2 ай бұрын

5:25 brilliant! 🇬🇧👑

@alanyoung3389

2 ай бұрын

It was old and it was beautiful.

@Oi999Pa

2 ай бұрын

@@alanyoung3389 And the colours they are fine 🇬🇧

@coppersulphate002

Ай бұрын

Im loving the patriotism!!!

@noraemma6809

Ай бұрын

When malacy wore the colour of gold when he stole from our proud invaders explain this to me I heard this growing up in ;Ireland

Tradition and discipline, baby! Western culture is the greatest in the world.

@peterwilliamson9767

2 ай бұрын

Not at all. One NEEDS to know and understand the various cultures to really APPRECIATE' their ceremonies. Some are MORE emotionally stirring that us westerners could even imagine. Learn first, and then NEVER compare !!!!

@pparker768

2 ай бұрын

Grow up

@mydraftable6526

Ай бұрын

West is best

@MrShadow-qz9xj

26 күн бұрын

your missing something in your comment... it's called respect.

@philschuler9674

17 күн бұрын

It made us great !

My father was in the Royal Artillery, I love and respect every single member of these regiments

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

My father was 95 Siege Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery. His major, Pargiter? I think he made General.

@arribaficationwineho32

Ай бұрын

My father was US militRy and had utmost respect for British military and history. He fought in the Bastogne

@megw7312

Ай бұрын

@@arribaficationwineho32 Much respect.. ww2? My dad was ww1 - gassed twice. Once - treated in quarters. Twice - treated by American medics (from Harvard Team), then evacuated home. Ongoing issues which he worked around. Retired at 72, died 1977 aged 82.

Such a thing my Great Grandfather and Grandmother would be proud to see. 💚

Respectful. We salute you all.

@anacletwilliams8315

Ай бұрын

Thank you! We salute you too. Hello!

love it and love the whole "Crown" thing. Tradition has a place. I have Irish and British roots along with my Nordic and Polsih roots

Thank you for posting, very proud to be British, this is something that cannot be seen elsewhere. I wonder what it was like in battle hearing this coming towards you, echoing over the hills?

@bogtrottername7001

2 ай бұрын

I was an American Revolutionary War reenactor in the 1st Virginia Regt. for 15 years and I believe I can speak for all involved on both sides. We all loved the musicians from BOTH sides of the conflict. BTW --- I always tell youngsters if the Battle of Britain hadn't been won by the British, Polish and Czeck fliers the world would be a very different place !!!

Everything about this parade was perfect, the uniforms, bear fur hats, polished boots, marching cadence and the music. I can imagine the massive amounts of hours on the parade square drilling to perfection❤❤❤❤

These men show just how good we are at this sort of thing.Only The British can put on a dhow like this.Most exceptional.

Greetings from Germany, well done, the leading pipes and drums, the exact march of the guards. Wonderful heritage of military traditions!

I was a Flight Attendant at VARIG (Brazilian airlines) and I used to fly to London. I miss this beautiful city, its traditions, visit the Queen's Palace. Regards from Brazil.

I served for three years in the first battalion Irish Guards. The first half in Training and on active in Cyprus and the second half at Windsor Castle. I can honestly say they we're three of the best years of my now 86 years. I would recommend it to any youth of tosday 11:57

@marceldurand2058

3 ай бұрын

😢

Aren´t they magnificent. Their uniforms are wonderful. Well done. You´ve done Ireland proud.

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

They have done Britain proud you mean

I LOVE this, it truly uplifts my heart and soul; tremendous respect for the UK and its military❤

@anacletwilliams8315

Ай бұрын

Thank you, darling!

Much love to my brothers and sister across the pond. I love British Gaelic and celtic culture.....one question the pipers are play by the rising of the moon. Isn't that an Irish rebellion song?

@jdoyle6821

3 ай бұрын

The rising of the moon was a resistance marching tune from 1798,the Irish Gards regiment of the British Army use this tune now,the other tunes they were playing were The sash,The Enniskillen dragoons,The Minstrel boy,and Kelly the boy from Killan,all great IRISH ballads,and great pub songs

@christinewigley2206

2 ай бұрын

@@jdoyle6821True . Brilliant 🤩

@cal205

Ай бұрын

Yes!

Brilliant Pipes!💚💚💚

The first tune they are playing is called "the rising of the moon "kind of ironic as it was a call to arms by the Irish in the 1798 rebellion 😂

@johnbarnes5237

5 ай бұрын

Actually, it's "The Wearin' of the Green."

@SuperEvilMonkee

5 ай бұрын

@@johnbarnes5237 which is also a Rebel tune, kinda given away by the lyric 'They're hanging men and women for the wearing of the green.'

@Billy1690-ws8jz

4 ай бұрын

@@SuperEvilMonkee they play the Sash as well.

@kinketsu9103

4 ай бұрын

@@Billy1690-ws8jz Heh yeah I was going to say, not to long until they get into giving the Sash a wee go too so, you know. Around 5:25 ish

@SuperEvilMonkee

4 ай бұрын

@@Billy1690-ws8jz of course they do

"Rising of the Moon" in a British military procession? Interesting to reference the 1798 Rebellion like that. The tradition on display is impressive.

@kathleenwhelan1116

2 ай бұрын

Unexpected. I think the Brits are finally understanding the power and resilience of the people they tried to exterminate.

@cal205

Ай бұрын

Haha it’s a rebel song!

@qs1066

Ай бұрын

OMG right? They started with "Wearing O the Green," and "The Minstrel Boy" too. It was such a cheeky set

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

@@cal205 so?

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

@@cal205 you don’t think that the British military know that? Don’t be stupid, it’s called acceptance, reunification and forgiveness. Grow up lad.

I love 💕 that sounds it's so comforting you just feel safe .

Those Irish guard pipers look really smart.

Nobody in the world does this amazing stuff like the Brits, thanks for the video.

Wow. That was Great. I absolutely LOVE seeing processions like that; especially marching through town. What a great tradition to keep alive.

@reasonableguy9090

4 ай бұрын

I agree, and may tradition like this withstand the poison tongues of the progressives who wish to dismantle it.

I love British , Scottish and Irish traditions ! ❤

I just love the sound of bagpipes.

Absolutely 💯 Brilliant 🤩

Very impressive. Very rich martial tradition.

Again a very nice video! Thank You very much!

Outstanding! That would get my arse moving for sure.

I love bagpipes so much.

I was enjoying this parade greatly. ❤Then they turned in at the gate to go home and I was suddenly in OZ. 😳

All guards wear red jackets and bearskin hats, the difference is in the colour of the hackles and the badges and the distance between buttons on the jackets

@davidkamen

2 ай бұрын

Actual bear skin hats ? Time to get PETA and other organizations to protest and demonstrate against these ancient shows which have no meaning in today's society. How ridiculous is it to be marching about with the skin of a bear on your head ?

@countycricklewood

2 ай бұрын

It’s the amount of buttons on the tunic and layout. Irish Guards have 4 and 4, buttons and wear St Patrick Blue Hackle Scots have 3 and 3 Red Hackle

If you have been in the Military or Law Enforcement, you will know that nothing beats marching to a Military Pipe Band. It just creates a cadence that goes through your soul and makes you feel invincible.

@brentmcgrannachan6232

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree, as an ex New Zealand serviceman

@user-vj1bi6bc3t

4 ай бұрын

In america we dont march around to bands, probably why you lost!!!

@lukewise1227

4 ай бұрын

@@user-vj1bi6bc3t Well you're an imbecile, because I've lost count of the Military Bands I've seen performing at Passing Out (Graduation) Parades, Football games, visiting other countries for Anzac Day or Remembrance Day. As for lost ? If this is a reference to the War of Independence, you better brush up on your history. You only won due to the assistance of the French Naval Blockades, preventing re-supply. You were late to two World Wars, but want to tell everyone you won them. Korea was a stalemate, Vietnam was a loss, Kuwait was left unfinished, Afghanistan was overun after an occupation of 20 yrs, Invading Iraq was the dumbest thing since Hitler invaded Russia. The British were actually lucky to get rid of you.

@Kx0195

4 ай бұрын

​@@user-vj1bi6bc3tcome back when your whole country isn't fat as fuck or homeless and your country isn't $32 trillion dollars in debt 🤣

@brianjones9345

4 ай бұрын

And what exactly did we lose@@user-vj1bi6bc3t

Fantastic ❤❤

Brilliant just brilliant

GOD' Bless them all and their families too! Amen people Realy need to remember that they are Real Soldiers!! :) :)

Great!

Fantastic!!!

That was incredible

Nicely done guards, Irish and Scot's both. And what a treat not having some Pro-Palestinian protestors in your face.

@stephenrichmond917

3 ай бұрын

Maybe the pipes scared them off.

@cal205

Ай бұрын

Strange comment. This has nothing to do with protesting. Except of course for at least one rebel tune included there!

It really surprises me every time how the British regiments, especially the household troops, with all the pomp and circumstance they got going on, still manage to form a fairly efficient fighting force.

‘The Minstrel Boy’ is truly meant for the pipes . . .

Awesome! 💚

Awesome!

Soooo f-ing cool!😀👏👏👏

PROUD TO BE IRISH ❤❤❤

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

Northern Irish are British

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

Judging by your channel you are actually American, and not Irish at all.

SUPERB! Greeting from Romania!

I’m sure those bearskin hats are heavy when they’re dry. I can’t imagine how heavy they become when wet.😳

I bloody love the sound of bagpipes!

Lovely skirt colors. I wish I could buy one of those for me.

@Brian3989

6 күн бұрын

They may look like skirts to you, however they are kilts. Saffron colour used by Irish regiments, Various tartans for Scottish regiments.

@anacletwilliams8315

6 күн бұрын

@@Brian3989 Thank you. Do you know where they are sold?

Irish and Scots are cousins after all 😊

@johnbeck2042

2 ай бұрын

And don't forget the South Africans, too!

First time I have ever seen a parade without a Drum Major in front controlling the music and directions

La Policía a caballo o en bicicleta les protege muy bien. Es muy bonito.❤

Nothing beats The Sash!

Love the commentary - helps to teach.

Beautiful music.

Former Royal Irish Ranger...from the early 90's.... I still have my Hackle, Caubeen and cap badge

The officers busby? Absolutely splendid!

That Soldier seems to have a nice, friendly temperament. Rather unusual.

Merci

My great-grands parents from Orkney Islands.

Mr Moses if I’m not mistaken - could be wearing of the green - then the rising of the moon… in London. I love it.

Grande abraço de Portugal.

Breaks ranks whenever we feel like. *inner Marine cries*

that capes are awesome

How's the bagpipes and drums what good song with a marching beat to it and approve it I just kept singing a song over and over in my mind in step with it in my mind and walk 12 miles in 90° weather I'm not a walker

Hi, I sub to this intersting channel, cheers Fabrizio - like 4312

Am a patriot from my own country. From ex colony. That is still stirred by.

The Rising of the Moon tune was an Irish rebel song about the 1798 Rebellion against oppressive British rule in Ireland.

"Very pretty, colonel - very pretty! But, can they fight?" - Pinkley

🧙❣️

They are playing The Wearing of the Green

@gerardnolan2939

5 ай бұрын

The first tune is called the rising of the moon, an Irish call to arms in 1798

I was a bit surprised at 2:45 to hear The Rising of the Moon, an Irish revolutionary song. 5:05 the minstrel to the war is gone with his wild harp slung behind him~

When is Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Guard's💂 turn ?

@stephenrichmond917

3 ай бұрын

They're fifth in the line of march, just after the Irish Guards.

The Irish Guards seem to have quite a fast marching pace, is that unique to them?

I'm a Welsh descent my ancestors went to America in the 1600s but I am still part British I've always so proud of my history and of the royal family and end of everything British.

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

I wish the term ‘Celt’ would be dropped. If you still have mostly Brit-ish descent (- and we do know what that entails), then you are still a Briton (and royal - like it or not 😊).

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

@@megw7312 Northern Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Cornish, Manx. Celtic nations, all British. Don’t tell me, A Cornishman whose family has ancient and proven ties to Scotland, and a documented ancestral line leading to the 7th Century High Kings of Tara in Ireland, that we are not Celtic. I am guessing you are American and this know nothing on the subject of ‘Celticness’.

Those tall fur hats catching the wind, wouldn’t stay on easily. They seem rather impractical.

the certainly look highly regarded.

Nice video. I find it interesting the guards have horse-mounted guards of their own

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

I must have missed something - only saw police horses. Can you point me to the timing please?

@lvdovicvs

2 ай бұрын

@@megw7312The police horses would count as mounted guards, yes?

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

@@lvdovicvs Um… s’pose so.

Irish, I wish! Don't care no where would I be without an Irishman! As an American, Thank you!

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

They are Northern Irish, so British

@traviswilharm7051

Ай бұрын

If born in Ireland, Irish, don't care about politics.

@OriginalNiceButOdd

Ай бұрын

@@traviswilharm7051 Americans always process to be so knowledgeable about Ireland, and most often are not.

oh!! I must have misunderstood.. I heard something about distinctive red tunics and medals glistening??? Stunning and magnificent nonetheless

I did not watch it all. How many recognized one of the tunes that the Irish Pipers were playing. It was '''the wearing of green'' and also used for the ''the raising of the Moon'. This was about the raising of 1798 The wearing of the Green Oh, Paddy dear and did you hear the news that's goin' round? The shamrock is by law forbid to grow on Irish ground Saint Patrick's Day no more we'll keep his colours can't be seen For they're hangin' men and women for the wearin' of the green I met with Napper Tandy and he took me by the hand He said: "How's dear old Ireland and how does she stand? She's the most distressful country that you have ever seen For they're hangin' men and women for the wearin' of the green" For the wearin' of the green For the wearin' of the green They're hangin' men and women For the wearin' of the green Then since the colour we must wear is England's cruel red Sure Ireland's sons will ne'er forget the blood that they have shed You may take the shamrock from your hat and cast it on the sod But 'twill take root and flourish there though underfoot 'tis trod My father loved his country and sleeps within its breast While I that would have died for her must never so be blessed Those tears my mother shed for me how bitter they had been If I had proved a traitor to the wearin' of the green For the wearin' of the green For the wearin' of the green They're hangin' men and women For the wearin' of the green But if at last our colours should be torn from Ireland's heart Her sons with shame and sorrow from the dear old isle will part I've heard a whisper of a land that lies beyond the sea Where rich and poor stand equal in the light of Freedom's Day Oh Ireland must we leave you driven by a tyrant's hand And seek a mother's blessing from a strange and distant land Where the cruel cross of England shall never more be seen And in that land we'll live and die still wearing Ireland's green For the wearin' ot the green For the wearin' of the green They're hangin' men and women For the wearin' of the green For the wearin' of the green For the wearin' of the green They're hangin' men and women For the wearin' of the green

@veronicaroach3667

2 ай бұрын

And nowadays ? Everybody loves the history & appreciates the making of friends together now - all of the people, apart from a few remaining jerks who love to sneer at other people, admire the pride seen here, no need for anything but that now & hopefully forever in the future. How many English love Ireland & all of us have Irish friends, neighbors & work associates and want nothing but the best for all ! We can't undo what our forefathers did, but respect can make things new !

@loquat44-40

2 ай бұрын

@@veronicaroach3667 Veronica what are you going off on: ''few remaining jerks who love to sneer at other people, admire the pride seen here, no need for anything but that now & hopefully forever in the future.'' I was not sneering, but as an American was struck by the tunes that were being played. From American history, the horrible things that England caused to happen in Ireland and Scotland sent waves of immigrants, often desperate and destitute to the Americas. It just very old history. Irish Americans of my generation in some cases remember if they were taught things on their grandmothers or grandfathers knees, but for younger generations, a century has passed since the black and tans and maybe 40 yrs since the last of the troubles; most have moved on and many even married people that are not irish. Now we have new problems and concerns.

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

St Patrick is Ireland’s favourite welshman

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

@@loquat44-40If you don’t learn from history, you are condemned to repeat it? While we pray that we will not repeat it, we have to remember else we might not recognise it if it is happening in other parts of the world.

@loquat44-40

2 ай бұрын

@@megw7312 Just what have you learned?

Just awesome. Much appreciated from an Irish English mixed Yank.

@mikechedzoy4866

5 ай бұрын

You are simply an American.

@Scaleyback317

4 ай бұрын

@@mikechedzoy4866 He's entitled to be whatever he feels he is. My wife is American born and raised of Sicilian parentage - she now (and for many years has held) has a British passport - try telling her she's not British after living here for over 30 years.

@fullenglishbreakfast3289

4 ай бұрын

She's American😂​@@Scaleyback317

@Scaleyback317

4 ай бұрын

@@fullenglishbreakfast3289 Convinced me - you might not have such a happy time trying to convince her

@mikechedzoy4866

4 ай бұрын

@@Scaleyback317 His ancestors are Irish and English, he is an American. That is simple.

"My Kings guard"!❤

Thank you for these educational videos. As I understand, these soldiers are defending the sovereignty of us, the people and so deserving of the highest respect. We used to respect our ‘bobbies’ but whose aggressiveness is now less deserving. We pay their wages - even the traditionally British ‘Make Way!’ might sound better than a coarse ‘Get back!’ (Even if it is a naval order).

@megw7312

2 ай бұрын

P.s… I think it’s wonderful ! Respect to all except the confused ‘policeman’ or whatever he is.

Hello everyone. "King Kevin" taking America! Hard at work, Plainly see it is on the brink of being "Ireland" again!

It’s beautifully done and raises a hair on me old Irish back. I wonder if they’d be worth a fiddles tweak in a battle… …or an elephants stomp?