The key too life is too love your neighbor as yourself. But above all to love the Lord with all your heart and soul.

Love him or hate him, Ron Wyatt deserves a bit of credit on this subject.

@Sigma.6

4 күн бұрын

He does, but these guys are talking about a different area from the place Rob found. The real area has nothing growing like these guys speak of. The whole area is just dead.

How incredibly heart breaking. All of the men, women who were of an age of accountability when this destruction occurred have been in torment. I am so thankful for all the men and women who are working in Christs church and in all the missionaries around the entire world.

Someone said, “Evidence will not give a person faith, but evidence will strengthen a person’s faith”. ❤️🙏🏻 Thank you for strengthening my faith. I think all of this is so interesting. God is amazing! I can’t believe I get to witness so much of the Bible coming to life before my eyes! Praise Jesus! Isn’t Lot’s wife still found as a pillar of salt even today. I always wondered how God did that to her? But He is God! And He can do anything!

@davefrimml1518

Жыл бұрын

I think it can anď will give non believers what they need, depending on the individual and their amount of pride and fear! Not all of them but, I believe that God preserved the evidence to win souls just before His return! Otherwise, why would He preserved them ya know!?

@lindaschipansky4429

4 ай бұрын

​@davefrimml1518 I agree. God is slow to anger. He is giving time for everybody to choose him not Satan.

@student99bg

3 ай бұрын

It depends on the person. I used to be an agnostic who became a Christian strictly because of evidence. Don't think that knowing evidence for Christianity is useless. You can convert some people just with evidence and with others evidence is helpful but it is not all that is needed.

@pattyyankey7128

Ай бұрын

Ron Wyatt found Sodom & Gomorrah. And there are sulpfur balls buried into the building relics at the southern end of that Dead Sea

@pattyyankey7128

Ай бұрын

Watch Ron Wyatt Discoveries video to see Sodom and Gomorrah and his other findings like the crossing of the Red Sea, Noah's Ark, that big rock that Moses hit with his staff and God made water come forth to water the Israelites. That rock is split in two. And showed erosion at its base from the large amount of water that flowed out of it. He also found the ark of the covenant and the crucifixion site of Jesus. The ark is under that site.

Fascinating. Sodom and Gomorrah is one of the bible's best examples of narcissism and it's just rewards. How Amazing God's Grace, that we could receive mercy, in place of justice.

Sean, I love that you also interviewed Dr Steven Collins concerning discovery of Sodom at Tall el-Hammam. That video description links to this video as an alternative. How about a link here to the Collins interview as an alternative? I love Joel’s videos showing biblical archaeological sites(holy sepulcher, David’s tomb, Gezer standing stones). I believe he misses on this one.

Sean, awesome work! I spent some time with your dad one day while I was doing media relations for Promise Keepers events in the early 2000s, and I helped him get to various reporter interviews. But I never forgot one of his awesome statements from the stage: “Rules without relationship leads to rebellion.“ I thought of that often and even quoted it to people over the last 20 years as I raised my three kids in the Lord. Now it’s exciting to see you shining the McDowell ministry torch brightly to another generation, the digital generation. Exciting!

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! I love that line.

@alvarolemos7086

Жыл бұрын

@@SeanMcDowell por favor ponga sus videos con subtítulos en español, llegaría a mucha gente Latinoaméricana q buscamos estos materiales y solo están en Inglés, sería muy bueno si le pone subtítulos en español, muchas gracias

@wallypaige8496

Жыл бұрын

YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL THE BIBLICAL FINDING THAT RON WYATT FOUND. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ARK FILES. IT WAS RON WYATT THAT FOUND SODOM AND GAMORAH. HE ALSO FOUND NOAH'S ARK. MOUNT SINAI WHERE GOD CAME DOWN WHICH IS I SAUDI ARABIA. HE ALSO FOUND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. HE FOUND ALL THESE BIBLICAL FINDING BUT WERE NOT SPOKEN OFF BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION. HE WAS A SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST

Absolutely fascinating and awesome conversation, so interesting! Thank you!

Thank you for having Joel on, he is always so interesting! Love it!

Great video, Sean. Also, it was great seeing you up at Hume Lake. My daughter, Carley, loved the short video you made for her.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve!

Thank you both and God bless you and your ministry richly ❤

I just subscribed to Expedition Bible - can't wait to explore the videos! This was so interesting, thanks guys

I'm such a nerd 🤓 for these types of interviews. It makes me believe in the Bible even more ✝️ I did subscribe to his channel. Thank you for the interview!

@jason3775

Жыл бұрын

Wait until we get to meet Him!

@tinaf600

Жыл бұрын

@@jason3775 amen to 🙌

@The_Lord_has_it

Жыл бұрын

For sure! It's so obvious I feel like the last couple years has revealed the results of God giving "them" over to a depraved (or reprobate) mind. Society's ultimate division. 🙏 God bless

We collected pieces of tephra (lava cooled while airborne) from a location on the SE side of the Dead Sea near Bab edh-Dhra, right off hwy 50. I have a piece sitting on my desk. Our prof pointed out the remains of an ancient gate and spoke of tombs that had been burned from the top-down. (Top-down destruction of tombs is abnormal. While raiders will burn a city, they will plunder any valuables from a tomb and won't bother burning graves) Good stuff!

@filler7149

Жыл бұрын

That must be quite the souvenir

@nahshon9998

Жыл бұрын

Wrong location. The bible tells exactly where Sodom is located and it isn't at the South end of the Dead Sea. Genesis 13.18-13 clearly state that Sodom is East of Bethel and Ai. Lot left from Bethel and Ai to Sodom. He surely didn't go south to the Dead Sea. Ask any Israeli where the Jordan river ends and they will all tell you that the Jordan ends when it enters the Dead Sea. Sodom may have fought a war south of the Jordan but Sodom is East of Bethel and Ai. See my notes above.

@phamnguyet8737

Жыл бұрын

​@@nahshon9998 the Lord declared in Ezekiel 16:46 that Sodom is Southern of Jerusalem

@nahshon9998

Жыл бұрын

@@phamnguyet8737 My study Bible says nothing about Sodom's location in Ez. 16.46.

@Gutslinger

4 ай бұрын

​@@nahshon9998Mine says: "Your elder sister is Samaria, who dwells with her daughters to the north of you; and your younger sister who dwells to the south of you is Sodom and her daughters." - Ezekiel 16:46 (NKJV) And those verses are speaking to Jerusalem. Sounds like a location to me. What does your study Bible say for that verse if it doesn't say that?

Thank you for your work both of you

Awesome 🤩 Just got Joel’s book. Great stuff with pics and illustrations. 🙏🏼✝️

@jamesmaybury7452

Жыл бұрын

What is his book called?

@shipwright6122

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmaybury7452 The title is, “Where God came down”

@jamesmaybury7452

Жыл бұрын

@@shipwright6122 thanks, Not so available in UK, but I’ll see if I can get it.

Interesting stuff and very edifying

Expedition Bible fan .... watching his channel getting the class time along with amazing footage of archeological biblical history 👍💯🇮🇱

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I've been to Bab edh-Dhra and it was fascinating (back in the 80's). Part of my archeological work as a grad student at Vanguard - 2 seasons at Tel Dor in Israel and then lots of middle east travel - Jordan, Egypt, Israel. Thanks for this amazing presentation, I would like to use in my CWV class if that's ok.

AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING. Great Video.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

👊👊👊

Awesome. I love this stuff

What about Ron Wyatt I saw a whole video where he was traveling through and they found a lot of them a lot of those sulfur balls and they found a lot of a lot of symmetrical shapes that look like they could have been buildings made out of mud that had been eroded you know so I'm like I saw this a long time ago on one of his videos

@francinec2941

2 ай бұрын

Ron Wyatt doesn't necessarily have the best reputation. I've seen some of his videos where he declared certain information that hasn't debunked. Ron Wyatt was an anesthesiological nurse not an archaeologist.

@globalcitizen995

Ай бұрын

@@francinec2941 so what

@Sigma.6

4 күн бұрын

​@@francinec2941That didn't stop him from finding Noah's Ark.

Jude1:7as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they also ignored the only true religion to the Father 📜💦 meanwhile pandemic orphans and widows 📈📈📉📉 still skyrocketing ..

@IISeverusll

Жыл бұрын

@@skellingtonmeteoryballoon Yeah, the "vaccine" is wiping people out. Shame.

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

Жыл бұрын

@@IISeverusll they're breakthrough cases, it does sound kinda better

@evermoremystic17

Жыл бұрын

I don’t even want to imagine what “strange flesh” meant. 🤢

I wish there could be a conversation between Kramer and Dr. Collins.

@colleennobbs7218

Ай бұрын

Yes, I like Joel……but he’s wrong on the location. It would be good to see a discussion between Joel Kramer and Steven Collins about the discovery of Sodom. However people who disagree with Dr. Collin’s do NOT have the evidence……Biblical AND scientific mind you……that Collin’s has.

Great video! So interesting!

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

Great video

Great findings!

Logical, concise...great!

Joel is great :)

AMEN brother McDowell I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️👊. Josephus Flavius mentioned that Sodom and Gomorrah were visibly evidentiary in his writings back over two thousand years ago. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

@Rightlydividing-wx1xb

Жыл бұрын

just a note, you forgot the Greek empire in Daniel's prophecy.

I LOVE this stuff. Can you do something on Mt Sinai/Jebel El Lawz?

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Joel and I are going to do more of these together, so stay tuned!

@aarons1789

Жыл бұрын

@@SeanMcDowell Awesome! I can't wait!

Joel is awesome!

So good to hear your probrams. the H.S. elevates my mind and spirit through your work. God bless.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@olgaburgos7780

Жыл бұрын

Just a comment about seeing burned cities, show the city in Italy , Pompei with bodies burned by lava, very sad and impressive.

Joel does great work

So cool. Thank you.

Several years back the history channel did a special on Sodom and Gomorrah. I had to turn it off because the first several minutes were spent attacking the Bible. This is interesting and I wish the history channel had just presented what was found and let the viewers come to their own conclusions. At the point of turning it off the only explanation given was maybe a gas pocket was released and exploded when it filled the cities.

@navion1946

Жыл бұрын

The History Channel lies about everything they report. Pure junk disinformation.

@ivyrose779

Жыл бұрын

In what ways did they attack it?

@navion1946

Жыл бұрын

@@ivyrose779 bot.

@williamsisk2897

Жыл бұрын

@@ivyrose779 Basically they tried to say if you believe the biblical account then you are a fool.

@RepentfollowJesus

Жыл бұрын

Discovery and history channels are useless for Christian topics. I wont watch them.

Do fascinating!

@Sr. Sean McDowell your interview questioning technique is amazing. I appreciate how you prepare in advance and help lead us through a quantity of information. The fact you respond in context to the interviewees comments and content is refreshing as well. God Bless and thank you.

@eugenetswong

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I like the way that he gives full attention and time to allow a guest to explain the views, without an antagonistic debate. Unfortunately, we don't a full examination of the debate, but it does help a little.

Joel is amazing!!!!!

So what do yall say about the sights Ron Wyatt found on the west side.?

@haewed

Жыл бұрын

Joel Kramer shows other locations than Ron. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea. Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls. Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof... Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!

@skylarkprowrestler

Ай бұрын

Nobody ever responds when asked about Ron.... The truth is out there

Is there any chance of putting these places on a map. I type in Numeira and it comes up in that location but here are people clearly living there. I'm guessing the excavation site is elsewhere.

I believe the Fire came from above and below. The Earth. You don't mess with the Most High Father.

I would love to see you get Mr. Kramer on a panel with Steve Collins. I think they'd have a great discussion on Sodom.

PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME AND I ASK TO ENCOURAGE US ALL BY THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH TO BE BOLDLY DEFENDING THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS ..♥️🕊✝️🙏✡️🇮🇱🙌🇺🇸🫶🏼

So, took a look at some of his videos, while some of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah may be preserving cultural memory, the two sites he talks about, Bab edh-Dhra and Numeira, weren't destroyed at the same time and the latest levels of destruction have been dated to a few hundred years earlier than pretty much any chronology of the patriarchal period. Looking forward to the video though and hope it discusses what we do/don't know archaelogically with some nuance.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Cool. We do discuss dating and he gives his reasons for why he thinks they do line up together with the biblical chronology. You can watch and be the judge if you're convinced!

@justingary5322

Жыл бұрын

@@SeanMcDowell AMEN brother McDowell I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️👊. Josephus Flavius mentioned that Sodom and Gomorrah were visibly evidentiary in his writings back over two thousand years ago. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

@photoionized

Жыл бұрын

@@SeanMcDowell Thanks for the response and his take on the C14 dating and pottery alignment is pretty interesting. I think my major issue is that Schaub (the one who he references as taking over the excavations after Lobb) explicitly states that the major destruction layer of Bab edh-Dhra occurred roughly 2350 BC followed by a later resettlement in an unwalled village. He also dates the demise of Numeira to 2600 BC. Neither the re-occupation, the time-period gap, nor the Early Bronze dating seem to fit the Middle Bronze story of Abraham. I'll dig around some more, but would love to see any papers that specify a later dating or deal with the resettlement issue -- the main source I'm looking at right now is "Crossing Jordan: North American Contributions to the Archaeology of Jordan". Edit: Just pulled the field report and it looks like Rast and Shaub also dated the pottery of Strata II (the layer destroyed by fire) at Bab edh-Dhra to EB III (to roughly the same time frame as the C14 date gave), so even if later pottery from the re-settled Strata I matches a Middle Bronze date, the layer with destruction seems from both the account of pottery and C14 dating to be too early.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

@@photoionized Excellent feedback, thanks. I will check that out.

Ron Wyatt has footage of where he thinks Sodom and Gomorrah are.

Ron Wyitt found multiple different things also , like where Israel crossed the sea and several others

Thank you.

This is so interesting.

Can you tell me, has the Book of Esther been found in the dead sea scrolls and if not, what is the oldest known transcript?

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

Жыл бұрын

Yacov rambsel would have had data like that

@skylarkprowrestler

Ай бұрын

Esther isn't in qumran. It's hidden

Yay! Thanks.

Joel Kramer mentioned C-14 dating was not reliable. But surely some dates of some carefully chosen objects found in carefully examined relatively undisturbed strata provide more reliable dates than others. There are also additional ways to date some objects. What are the results so far? What detailed attempts have been made to obtain such dates?

Didnt josephus mention that the remnants and remains of soddom and Gomorrah were Still visible in his day ?

@Jacob115ify

Жыл бұрын

I am extremely interested in the answer to this question

@amybrooks8841

Жыл бұрын

Olll

@Tenjac

Жыл бұрын

Yes he did

@Dogsday198

Жыл бұрын

Still visible today

@Jacob115ify

Жыл бұрын

@@Dogsday198 what?

Yes Ron Wyatt made this discovery back in 1989. The videos on still on KZread.

@swirvinbirds1971

Жыл бұрын

He never discovered squat. He was a fraud. Amazing all these things he 'found' but never produced a thing for any of them.

@haewed

Жыл бұрын

Joel Kramer shows other locations than Ron. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea. Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls. Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof... Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!

If anyone is interested in seeing what Sodom and Gomorrah burning would have looked like at night due to the sulfur, do a KZread search for blue volcano Indonesia.

According to the Bible the Dead Sea was the location of the battle Abraham fought to get Lot back. It, according to the Bible, was a plain with tar pits. I wonder if it's the place the burning brimstone broke lose from. I wonder what the bottom of the Dead Sea is like.

Bab-Edh-dhra and Numeira don't seem to match up imho. The reason (in my own words) is as follows: Genesis 10:19 describes a viewpoint on the south east of the Dead Sea (directly east of Gaza) looking northwards towards Sodom, Gomorrah etc. as far as Laish (Dan) in the far north a the foot of Mt.Hermon. An additional clue for the location of cities of the plain on the east of the Jordan is found in one of the Ebla tablets, which lists Damascus immediately before the five(six) cities of the plain, just as Genesis 14 mentions Abram chasing the invading kings on their way home north past Damascus, after initially confronting them at Dan (on the east bank of the Jordan). The eastern Jordan plain matches this description slightly better, being east of the Jordan and in greater proximity to Damascus. A more compelling argument however is that the inheritance of Lot in the mountains which he fled to are Ammon and Moab, whose mutual border lies south east of Jericho. The location of Bab-Edh-dhra and Numeira instead are located further south in the territory of Edom (Esau), the people of Abraham’s grandson that occupied this area not long after, south of Moab. Thus the East-Jordan-plain or ‘northern hypothesis’ for the cities of the plain seems more plausible compared to the traditional sites of Bab-edh-dhra and Numeira. The only convincing evidence for the southern hypothesis is a 6th century AD byzantine map which places Zoar in the circular and admittedly very ‘kikkar’(disc)-like peninsula on the south east side of the dead sea. However this association may have arisen erroneously prior to or during the Byzantine period just as it has arisen today from the same presuppositions concerning a circular salted and desolated plain. Additionally, evidence for a catastrophic airburst event in the eastern Jordan plain exists dated to the Middle Bronze Age (MBII) period, whilst during this same period Bab-edh-dhra and Numeira had both been long abandoned, and although evidence exists for their sudden destruction and burning, there exists no matching evidence for any cosmic event that would match the description of fire from the sky as described in Genesis 19. Therefore the best conclusion regarding these two sites is destruction by an unrelated natural disaster. An additional scriptural mention which seems to suggest a location for Sodom south of Jerusalem and which did cause me a degree of doubt is Ezekiel 16:46-56. However Ezekiel is very poetic with a lot of flair, and the context of Sodom's mention is this: Your mother was a Hittite (north), your father an Amorite (south), your elder sister is Samaria (North) and your younger sister is Sodom (south). All that can be certain is that Sodom is south of Samaria, and this doesn't necessitate being south of Jerusalem. The verse is just picking the nearest centres of evil in the north and south respectively and is not a geographical survey. Additionally the southern-most Amorites were located in the eastern Jordan plain, and there is no evidence of Amorite inhabitation further south of this, where instead the tribes of Edom dwelt.

Is sulfur raining down something that we have seen or have evidence of anywhere else? Is this a rare but known phenomena?

Joel is the man, I love his videos.

This makes a lot of sense. Lot only had from before dawn to the rising of the sun to make it to Zoar. Zoar as determined by the Madaba Mosiac map as being on the south-east shore of the upper basin of the Dead Sea. It was only 3-5 miles away from Sodom. Lot later left Zoar and went to live in a cave in the hills. He produced a son with his daughter. That son was named Moab. Moab is the country where Zoar is on the Madaba Map.

The cities was discovered by Ron Wyitt yrs ago I believe it was in the late 70’s when he found them you can KZread search on here Ron Wyitt and the cities of sadom and gumora

@haewed

Жыл бұрын

Joel Kramer shows other locations than Ron. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea. Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls. Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof... Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!

Wow!

I’m quite sure Dr Collins has been digging ancient Sodom for years.

@tylerenns

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I watched a presentation from Dr Collins a while back that seemed convincing. I feel like Collins and Kramer both give compelling reasons for their arguments, but locate Sodom on opposite sides of the Dead Sea. It would be helpful to see them debate this, or at least interact with each other's arguments.

@JohnVandivier

Жыл бұрын

Kramer specifically denied that any such sites exist…is he simply ignorant of that work??

@harryallen457

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnVandivier Hi John I believe he said that he didn’t believe Dr. Collins site at Tall Al Hammam was Sodom for an couple of reasons. I think they’re at about year 18 in the dig up there. Quite fascinating. Dr. Collins has several presentations and lots of artifacts. He’s fun to watch.

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerenns Great suggestion. Maybe I can have them on together next!

@Revelation1316

3 ай бұрын

@@tylerenns Like the Holy grail, I don't think it matters "where it is." What matters is the message and what can happen now if we don't take heed.

What might the kind of extreme, intense burning that happened at S&G have upon carbon dating?

@sigurdholbarki8268

5 ай бұрын

Not sure heat would have any effect on the rate of decay of C14 isotopes, but it is less accurate over long periods of time because the margin of error increases. There is something called the Marine reservoir effect where carbon sources from ocean (e.g. a marine diet) are older and can give misleading results. The biggest problem though is the selection of samples which is open to human error! It certainly isn't the magic bullet a lot of people would have you believe

I visited these 2 cities in 1999 when I visited Masada. Lol. Everyone in Israel knows where they are. Ron Wyatt brought them to the world's attention 30 years ago. Cmon guys.

@TheRevering

Жыл бұрын

Ron Wyatt was good on some things, and horrible on others..... He didn't "find them", he heard what the locals had said. Such as the Holy Mountain in Saudi.

@RoseSharon7777

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRevering i didn't say Ron Wyatt "found them". Try reading what I said.

@navion1946

Жыл бұрын

Right? Everyone keeps “finding” Ron Wyatt’s finds. Disingenuous.

@ivyrose779

Жыл бұрын

@@navion1946 Based on Wyatt’s history, I certainly wouldn’t take his word on it. I’d want confirmation from someone with a reliable record.

@RoseSharon7777

Жыл бұрын

@@ivyrose779 Hundreds of thousands have visited Sodom and Gomorrah. They aren't hard to find. There are plenty of witnesses. I went there in 1999. Sulphur balls and all. You can clearly see them also from standing on top of Masada!

I am curious about what Joel makes of the sulfur balls found over on the west side of the Dead Sea. Are these the sites that Ron Wyatt filmed decades ago, where he claimed that the geological structures where the sulfur balls were found where actual remnants of the cities? If those aren’t cities, then how do you explain the sulfur balls on the west side of the Dead Sea?

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great question, Chuck. I’m not sure about Ron’s claim, but will ask Joel.

@bear7098

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't Wyatt exposed as a fraudster?

@chuckporritt6958

Жыл бұрын

@@bear7098 I don’t know that much about Ron Wyatt. I guess I am skeptical about his claims to have found Noah’s Ark. And I’m not sure that the coral deposits found on the bottom of the Gulf of Aqaba are truly chariot wheels. He may have been a fraudster. But the films that Wyatt shot of himself picking up sulfur balls below the mountain of Masada are genuine; as this new video by Joel Kramer also is. I’ve been a Christian for over 45 years. I’ve come to realize that even if I’m searching in a garbage dump, sometimes it’s possible to find precious things. And so I continue to seek, knock, and ask.

@hopefulvoyage

Жыл бұрын

Check out Ron Wyatt discovery here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/po5_pKqyeaXYeKQ.html

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

Жыл бұрын

Secular consensus concludes that the sulfur balls match the sulfur of Old Faithful at Yellowstone during Cambrian explosions, then forgotten about in Gobekli teppi stone age as foragers. However, someone uploaded the Kurdish rebel kidnapping news compilations to further expose Ron Wyatt' entire East Turkey Expedition and vandalism on the Anchor stone ⚓. The OG fake news definitely had better style back in them days . 📰

Can we give Ron Wyatt a hat-tip too please?

What about the mineral content of the soil beneath the ash? What percentage is sulphur?

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

Жыл бұрын

Apparently just 50% but it's enough to burn blue 🔥🔵

@edwardtbabinski

Жыл бұрын

@@skellingtonmeteoryballoon What is the data source? And what is the mineral content around the Dead Sea in general?

@davidctusa

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardtbabinski I tromped around Gomorrah in 2011...there really is no "soil" just compacted ash. You'd prob have to dig deep to get to earth that was not exposed to high temps...also , I recovered some sulfur balls from Gomorrah and had it tested with FTIR Spectroscopy.....95% pure sulfur.

Sean reminds me of the adult version of tin tin from the adventures of tin tin.

Wyatt discovered this site years ago.

@haewed

Жыл бұрын

Joel Kramer shows a different location than Wyatt. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea. Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls. Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof... Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!

It's the end of evil. And the beginning of true peace.

the Greek New Testament doesn't have "end of the world", for when God's wrath comes on the world. It has "end of the Age". He must be getting end of the world from the KJV where they translate Age as world.

@ivyrose779

Жыл бұрын

It seems like the KJV has a significant amount of mistranslations and not inconsequential ones. I don’t understand why so many people insist that it is the “right” Bible outside of that’s just what they’ve been told their entire lives.

The crossing of the Red see is a misunderstanding... The Bible speaks about the see of reeds....

Am fascinated by this story. Yes I agree that burning Sulfur balls likely devastated the two cities and they evidence is in the Sulfur balls still present in the grounds close by. But my question is where did they come from. I understand that sulfur balls come from Volcanic activity so this should also be looked at and researched. Also, was it volcanic activity that ignited the sulfur balls as the tradition states is was "raining brimstone". So this means they were likely ejected at the same time ?.

@marionchase-kleeves8311

Жыл бұрын

According to R.Wyatts records it is not volcanic sulfur, which is yellow and is less pure than the white sulfur found at the site

@authorityfigure1630

10 ай бұрын

@@marionchase-kleeves8311Ron Wyatt is a fraud and shouldn’t be used to help Christianity

Steve Collins already discovered it

Joel what do you think of Dr Steven Collins work he used the Bible as a road map and found what he believes is the Biblical site and his evidence seems so complete?

Could the sulfur balls have been ball lightning?

on satellite images you can still make out a riverbed connecting the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba, but it looks like something must have stopped up the river stopping the Jordan from flowing all the way to the Gulf

Have any deposits of salt found???

So how is your dig going near the Dead Sea?

One thing I find striking every time I go back to the Bible is that they never really get magnitude across. From a plain reading, you'd think there was one Ark of the Covenant, one Noahs Ark, one Sodom and Gomorrah, Jesus was crucified on one cross, poked with one spear, etc. Little did we know there are dozens to hundreds of each in each story. Really changes your perspective when you worship, glory to God! 🙌🙌🙌

@winniecash1654

Жыл бұрын

Dozens to hundreds of each? What do you mean by that?

@bouncycastle955

Жыл бұрын

@@winniecash1654 Noah had a fleet of Arcs for all the Arks that have been found. Multidimensional Jesus was simultaneously crucified on thousands of crosses for all the cross wood that was found. It's a joke at expense of the fact that every relic that Christians find important has been "found" at least dozens of times. Sodom and Gomorrah have been "found" many times too. P.s. "found" = someone claimed that some random nothing was the relic

@winniecash1654

Жыл бұрын

@@bouncycastle955 I think I understand your point. There's a yes and a no (or perhaps not literally speaking). I'll mull it over.

Nice interview, as for Sodom I don't think so.. I'm still looking for Santa's workshop.

@andyderksen8455

8 ай бұрын

So you've refuted all the claims being made here? Give us one refutation.

What is Google Earth coordinates ?

Hi

@LostBeagle

Жыл бұрын

👍👍

dr steven collins is an amazing archaeologist!

Tall el-Hammam Excavation Project

Faith creates its own supposed proof.

Could you please use account rather than story as that can make the difference in understanding that the biblical accounts aren't stories is myths. Many thanks

Ron Wyatt discovered the place in the 80s.

@Silverheart1956

29 күн бұрын

Dear @Christianmanila The claim that Sodom is located on the western coastal area of the Dead Sea is called "Wyatt's Sodom". It is very surprising that anyone with any valid archaeological credentials would believe Sodom was in this area. The vast majority of Christian Scholars reject the idea that Sodom is located in this area. It is not were Sodom is located according the the Scriptures. The Scriptures clearly say Sodom was located in the Jordan Valley (כִּכַּ֣ר הַיַּרְדֵּ֔ן - Jordan Valley), (Gen. 13:10,11), west of Bethel and Ai (Gen. 13:3 with 13:11). I guess Wyatt just never took the Biblical Scriptures seriously enough to accept the Biblical description of where Sodom is located. His "discoveries" were always dependent on speculation and imagination, not verifiable evidence, but he did get people (who don't study the Scriptures deeply) believing his stories. Geologists have examined the sulfur balls that are found in the areas around the Dead Sea and have explained how these are naturally occurring pure sulfur, commonly found around active fault zones like the Dead Sea Transform fault system that runs through the Jordan Valley and Dead Sea. This is due to the many hot sulfur springs around the Dead Sea. Be Well, DZ

Hey guys, read about Tall el Hammam in Jordan on the Jordan river. The destruction fits exactly to what you claim. A very high heat event that has been shown to be an asteroid destruction of a city right where the bible says Sodom was.

So is Numeira actually Gomorrah?

Thank You. This is a Very Interesting Study, goes somewhat along with what I've Learned over the Decades about S & G. Plus- I learned a Fresh Swear! Now, when I Drop a Cast Iron skillet on My Foot or the Dog Runs Out and I can't catch Up in My Wheelchair... I CAN Exclaim: SULFERBALLS!!! Hahahahaahaha! Yeah- THAT's the Ticket!!!

Sodom and Gomorrah are all around us

Sean, if you ever want to talk "O sun, stand still over Gibeon..." Get into Velikofsky or the guys of the Electric Universe, they have a thing or two to say about Sodom & Gomorrah, it is a different scientific perspective which allows for the catastrophism in the Bible

But doesn't the Bible only mention two of the five cities being burned down and not four of them?

@winniecash1654

Жыл бұрын

Would it necessarily exclude other cities though, besides the two?

@paulrichards6894

Жыл бұрын

very little is historical in the OT

@josiaseverett5677

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrichards6894 I wouldn't say that. There is solid archaeological evidence for various stories in the book of kings and chronicles as well as people of the OT. Check out the top ten list of OT related archaeological discoveries by the associates of biblical research.

@josiaseverett5677

Жыл бұрын

@@paulrichards6894 kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2VqxbKMnayrcdI.html

@josiaseverett5677

Жыл бұрын

@@winniecash1654 actually, I just read deuteronomy 29:22 where it actually mentions two cities beside sodom and gomorrha that were destroyed.

I have been studying both perspectives so I am familiar with both theories. I really was not very impress with the "evidence" presented by Kramer. There appears to be many problems with his contentions and that made his perspective weaker that the other major theory. 1. I was very surprised that the first verses he went to for evidence on the location of Sodom (& company) was Gen. 14. He never mentioned Gen. 13 which appears to be the most definitive explanation of the location of Sodom. That is a huge negative point and is very hard to overlook his omission. For him to adequately defend his view it is absolutely necessary to him to address Gen. 13 and explain why that is not referring to the Jordan Valley and harmonize Gen. 13 adequately with his view. This was so significant that I gave Kramer a negative 5 at failing to address this point. 2. Ezek 16:46. Kramer says this verse places Sodom to the south of Jerusalem. However if that was the intent of the verse then why does the text fail to used the Hebrew word for "South" in the text. The Hebrew word for "south" is "דָּרוֹם" (darom). It's exclusive meaning according to Strongs Concordance and Brown-Driver-Briggs is solely "south", with no ambiguity and is used that way all 17 times it is used in the OT. However the Hebrew word used in the verse Kramer referred to in Ezek. 16:46 is "יָמִין" (yamin). According to both Strong's Concordance and Brown-Driver-Briggs the primary meaning fro this word is "right hand". It can mean the direction of the right hand and Brown-Driver-Briggs says it could mean "south, because when facing east the right hand is toward the south. Of course if this the case. then we are making assumptions. Maybe the intent is looking towards Samaria, in which case the right hand would be pointing east directly towards Tell el-Hammam and would be consistent with the description in Gen. 13. If the intent of the verse was to give specific directions, one would expect the Hebrew word for "south" to be used. The word "north " in this verse is the Hebrew word for left. There is some ambiguity in this verse. We interpret ambiguity with clear verses. like in Gen 13 where there is little ambiguity. Negative point here. 3. Kramer seems to consider these sulfur balls as some indicator that the site was Sodom, because the Scriptures mention brimstone in the destruction. Most people are aware that Ron Wyatt has claimed that He found Sodom on the western side of the Dead Sea (Wyatt's Sodom). One of the major lines of evidence he claims is the presence of sulfur balls. If Kramer understands the presence of sulfur balls as an indicator of the location of Sodom, then does he think some of the cities of the plain may have been on the other side of the Dead Sea, or that God destroyed that area by fire and brimstone also. Geologists have confirmed the presence of these sulfur balls are a naturally occurring geological feature of this fault zone area around the Dead Sea Rift. They are associated with the naturally occurring sulfur springs in the area. That is why they are found on both sides of the Dead Sea. Sulfur has a very low combustion temperature. If the heat from this destruction event was very intense, the sulfur would probably burn and turn into Sulfur dioxide (as gas) and drift away in the winds. The presence of sulfur may be an indicator that this area is not Sodom. Kramer's claim that the presence of sulfur is an indicator of the location of Sodom is not a strong argument. Negative point here. There are other point to be made, but I have said enough. No, I have not made any definitive conclusions on the location of Sodom, but I am not impressed with Kramer's arguments. Be Well, DZ

Why don't you use a map?

Can you bring on Eric Metaxas? He has an account in his most recent book that has evidence that these cities were northeast of the Dead Sea where there is a layer of black melted rock that had to be at temperatures that could not be produced on earth at the time.

@anamericanfriend2367

Жыл бұрын

Eric Metexas isn't an archeologist.

@shanetlogan

Жыл бұрын

He already interviewed Erick metaxis last year on that book. It was a great interview. I'm really wanting to get the book

@SeanMcDowell

Жыл бұрын

Good suggestion, and yes, had him on a few months back!

@PBRimmer

Жыл бұрын

What temperature couldn't be achieved on Earth at that time?

@bear7098

Жыл бұрын

The name to check out is Dr. Stephen Collins excavating Tal El Hammam. More convincing than this IMO.

Show me the pictures.