Shining Force and Phantasy Star. The two series that prove Sega could crank out incredible rpgs when they wanted to.

God, I really wish for a Phantasy Star V (a true one, not like what Sega's been doing with Shining over the past years)

@dalmnationtwitch7931

Жыл бұрын

Why do you want a fifth one? It ended perfectly

@mr_jago2850

Жыл бұрын

@@dalmnationtwitch7931 There's been franchises that had their first games connected and then change (like Dragon Quest); I miss the aestethic, stories, worlds and charm that PS gave to us

@MUUTDITTSPOUMN

10 ай бұрын

PSO is V until they say otherwise. They barely managed to tie up the loose ends in IV. Managing any more continuity than that seems unrealistic for a AAA developer. So, if continuity is your personal requirement for a PSV, its never happening.

@mr_jago2850

10 ай бұрын

@@MUUTDITTSPOUMN I said it before: it's not about following the same continuity. Dragon Quest had their first games connected and then it started to be separate stories. I want other mainline PS games, that's all

@MUUTDITTSPOUMN

10 ай бұрын

@@mr_jago2850 Yeah. A series of trilogies. Love Dragon Quest.

PSO will forever be one of my favorite games of all time. Sooooo many hours spent in that game rare hunting and just hanging out with friends. Good times.

Always love to see people make videos about Phantasy Star! A few things. The original Phantasy Star from 1987 was released on the Master System, not the Game Gear. Phantasy Star 2 was released on the Mega Drive/Genesis, not the Master System. Phantasy Star Generation 1 and Generation 2 were never released to the west so the footage in this video is using the unofficial English fan patches. Looking forward to PSO2 NGS!

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I just saw that, I wonder where my brain was at. For some reason I had the idea of the boxart from phantasy star as the box art for 2. I got cocky and decided to do some of the games from memory instead of being more meticulous. I knew there was something weird since I didn't remember playing a game gear version of the game. Oh well and yeah PSO2 NGS looks like a day 1 download to me.

phantasy star 2, 3 and 4 were very difficult and interesting rpg's. I was 10 years old at this time :-)

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

I wish this game series was more popular! It’s so awesome and I think idola phantasy star has great music!

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

I wish we can get a Phantasy Star 5 or at least a remake of 4.

@tonyknighton4019

Жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon So Sega can screw those up too?

I appreciate you guys for liking the compilation! Make sure to like and comment so that I know to create more content like this. It really helps the channel and myself to know what people want more of. Just to note, the first two games I got the consoles wrong. Phantasy Star 1 was for the Sega Master System and Phantasy Star 2 is for the Megadrive/Genesis.

STILL wishing Phantasy Star Generation 3 was a thing -_- PS3 was ahead of its time and a victim of its limitations. The remakes stopped before servicing the one in the series that needed it most!

@chrisrj9871

3 жыл бұрын

That and Generation 4

@jjbb84x

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrj9871 4 Still holds up pretty well. A remake wouldn't be *needed* as much as appreciated. I'd even say to really justify a remake, 4 would have to look more like a PSO game. The RPG Maker -like makeover that works well for the rest of the series just wouldn't cut it for 4. In my opinion at least.

@chrisrj9871

3 жыл бұрын

​@@jjbb84x - thing is, if they make generation 3, and never generation 4, we all know the fans would be demanding a generation 4 to complete it. Maybe the 3D route would be the way to go, as long as it's good, but something would need to happen... because fans.

@jjbb84x

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrj9871 Don't get me wrong, I am ABSOLUTELY not arguing against any love Sega wants to put towards classic PS. I just recently completed 3 and man, there is SO MUCH meat left on that bone thanks to the limitations of the 16-bit era hardware. A graphical facelift would be the bare tip of the iceberg for 3. While for 4, that would pretty much be all it would need.

@kidkytes6233

3 жыл бұрын

Generation 3 was going to be 4 and not 3. They were going to ignore 3 since 4's story is a direct continuation of 2 where 3 is it's own thing. Phantasy Star 3 certainly does have a lot of hiccups but there's loads of potential there. Honestly if FF4 was released before it then maybe they would've included character dialogue that would flesh out much of the narrative with 3.

I love this game franchise it’s older than me by a few years and I am always going to stick by this franchise Fucking loving new genesis

The 1st 4 deserve a remake of some kind.

@Retronomicon

2 жыл бұрын

They remade the first 2 but there wasn't enough sales to continue making them. I was really hoping for a remake of phantasy star 4, since that is one of my all time favorite rpgs of all time. It is a shame, I don't particularly like the Phantasy Star Online series, seems like something completely different.

me played quite a few of these games, and now NGS. it's nice going down memory lane.

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Phantasy Star 4 is one of my favorite RPGs, hopefully they will remake it at least like they tried with 1 and 2.

Phantasy Star Portable 2.....PSP......Decorating your room.....big adventure in the palm of your hand.......love it still to this day. Especcially playing it on the Steam Deck or ROG Ally upscaled.

SF is my first love of gaming. I tried to play Phantasy Star back in the 90s but never really had time and when i tried to play it has an adult I am unable to deal with the dated graphics, even though I want to play it . Also dragon quest was one of the games i wanted to really play it seem fun with what little game time i put in for the NES. I dont' remember which one. There was so many good games that was out during the 90s it was just tough finding time to play them all has a little kid.

@Retronomicon

2 ай бұрын

I would at least suggest Phantasy Star 4, my favorite of the whole series from back then till now. Wish they would at least make a remastered version of that one.

I reached lvl 120 on the GameCube version as a RAcastet, or female cast ranger. My favorite weapon was the Guilty Light, most badass name for the most badass photon bazooka! I had no ideal that was even a weapon class! I’m now playing the latest one on Xbox game pass.

Ok i had no idea that phantasy star existed for so long

@thanatos8618

Жыл бұрын

If you didn't play one of the first 4 games you didn't even know about PS's existence at all.

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

PS4 was the best in the series in my opinion.

@thanatos8618

Жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon I agree. One of the best games from the 16 bits era. Maybe the best from MD/Genesis.

Still hoping Phantasy Star V becomes a thing and hopefully, it stays turn-based. I honestly don't care about action combat MMORPGS. I mean, if Streets Of Rage 4 can happen...

@tonyknighton4019

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully it's a actual Phantasy Star game

I didn't know these games existed, I saw PSU on Xbox 360 years ago and started playing.

@thanatos8618

Жыл бұрын

You mean you didn't know about PS at all.

card game really grew on me after a while

PS1 was released on the Master System, NOT the Game Gear. PS2 was released on the Genesis/Mega Drive, NOT the Master System.

@helio1055

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like where on the internet did it tell them the wrong information? Lmfao

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Was doing it from Memory, there is a top comment with the corrections.

PSO2 for the ps4? I heard of new genesis being on the ps4 but not regular pso2 😂. still a great video

@Namtanee

3 жыл бұрын

in Japan the game is on ps4

@edgarlozada3858

2 жыл бұрын

It's also on Switch.

Look how they massacred my boy.

4:41 getting Alien Storm vibes.

El primer Phantasy Star debe ser para Sega Master System ya que la Sega Game Gear consola portátil de Sega que salió entre 1990 y 1991, además el Phantasy Star Universe y el Phantasy Star Universe Ambition of the Illuminus tambien salió para la PS2

So sad to see a initial good idea and game being ruined by a series of awful sequels. Phantasy star 1 from Master system was a master piece at the time it was released.

I respect the vision this game had in the first place in mixing the fantasy world with medivalish themes up to cyberpunkish themes; learning too that this game spawned just because it wanted to compete with Final Fantasy iirc. Ignoring how SEGAC is treating their latest installment - overall I will like this series despite not knowing the lore of all the characters of the previous (have a buddy to run it down with me) just soley on how unique and being its own game that even capcom grew inspriation from it forging its Monster Hunter series. Overall, the fans who were exposed to such are keeping even older titles alive just because of how good they were and they hold a meaning to them as well as those who play on their servers.

@ShiroCh_ID

Жыл бұрын

yeah i think the good balance of Fantasy Theme and Cyberpunkish theme were Phantasy Star Online 1,why? my reasoning that in PS I up to PS IV from culture to attire were all medieval-ish with some twist of Technological and Science Advancement here and there while PSO1 were like y"eah its Future we already Advance the Technological and Science Matter but we also have Magic" here kind of vibe wich is honestly fits the name of Phantasy a.k.a Fantasy

I just had a phantasy star online 2 ad

@Retronomicon

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty cool, I played it a bit. New Genesis requires a beefy system though.

@ninten8856

2 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon wow that's nice i do want to play it too

I like how Mew Genesis says, "Windows" overlooking that it's was a timed Xbox exclusive

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Now on PS4 as well.

Man, I miss Idola so bad. I'm not into Gatcha games, even in games that are part of a big franchise like Fate/Gran Order and Fire Emblem Heroes (both being part of franchises that I love) I struggle to log in daily, but with Idola? there wasn't a day I didn't play it, even when they switched from 2D models to 3D (I hated those). It really hurt me to see it be shut down.

@Retronomicon

8 ай бұрын

Didn't even notice it shut down. Sux, cause I was playing it some time ago and I was having fun. I have some gameplay of it, don't know if I put in on the channel, but I wish I played it longer.

Guy's whats the differnce between PSO 2 and PSO 2 NG? Which one should I play? Also does PSO2NG have Mechs?

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

PSO2NG does not have mechs yet. I don't know of any plans to have them come out. PSO 2 has more content and has more to do overall, being out for years, but it isn't really getting much support any more or at all.

@Zino_blade

Жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon Aaah okay thanks!

only ever played phantasy star universe out of all the games. it was a great game though.

Universe was also released for PS2

For me phantasy star four tops even Chrono trigger . Such an immersive game I played at least eight times in a row before playing any other game ❤

PS0 is not that bad. I had some nice moments with that game, but yeah...not anywhere near PS4. If they ever make PS5... I'm hoping SEGA will take a look at what Capcom did on BoF 3 and 4 (just forget the 5). THAT is a perfection. Or just keep an eye on those Pixel Art indie RPG games from these days (Sea of Stars).

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

I hope so too

What is that ending song? at 8:00

@InuzakaNaze

4 ай бұрын

One of Dark Soul's BGM

I loved Phantasy Star when I was a kid and a teenager. I wish a new real PSV would see the world. Though I was told the PSO2 is great but never gave it a try (Like Xenoblade X I was told:))

does PS nova has single mode? or its just for online?

@Retronomicon

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe it does.

Why does it say that the first PS was on Gamegear in 1987 ?

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Correction is in comments, I know I know. Was doing it by memory when I first started making the video.

PS2 was on mega drive, not master dystemt

Spent a lot of time playing the first 3 Phantasy Stars.. (but never seeing the credits till 20 years later 😅) 4 didn’t gel for me., and too long to remember why 🤷🏻‍♂️ Did enjoy PSO on Dreamcast even though the story was buried.. think 1P RPG’s were in decline at the time so maybe why went the online route.. CARD was meh (wanting to do a Yugioh/Pokémon hybrid?) PSU was jarring having to play as a set character.. the story was still meh..

@Retronomicon

2 жыл бұрын

Surprised to hear that 4 didn't gel with you. It's my favorite RPG and still is, it's a masterpiece for me. PSO to me was fun, but like resident evil 4 was to resident evil itself, it spelled the doom for my beloved franchise. Not to say the succeeding games weren't fun, but it definitely wasn't the same. Still hoping for a phantasy star 4 remaster like the other ones they did though.

@MikeB-nn4nh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon RE4 I quit as soon as I hit the laboratories.. Ashley was just too stupid to justify completing the game.. after she just crouches and dies by an enemy that she would have just seen in the cutscenes as why it was a bad idea to be next to them 🤦‍♂️ Back when I was playing PSO., you couldn’t get the dreamcast to dial a number that would be on a tariff to be cheaper.. But did try getting a dial up tariff/deal for internet and not knowing how these things worked., wracked up a massive phone bill 🤣 I couldn’t afford to pay it off straight away 😪

@thanatos8618

Жыл бұрын

Dude...PS4 is one of the best RPGs of the 16 bits era. It's by faaaaaaar the best PS of all.

great video! Phantasy Star for me ended at Phantasy Star 4. After that it became far too anime

@highimpact1

3 жыл бұрын

not even too anime but too modern anime.

@tonyknighton4019

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf that didn't exactly happen until PSU It then became really Modern Anime when. PSO2 released Well personally I didn't feel like PSO1 was particularly too anime.

@ikagura

3 жыл бұрын

Phantasy Star II and IV had an anime aesthetic.

@SnackJar

2 жыл бұрын

Too anime? How does it become too anime lol this game is made in Japan. Lol

@OnyxCyanide

Жыл бұрын

@@ikagura Agreed, my two favorites of the first four - I did like them all for its time, some better than others - but those two, yes. 👍

Phantasy star 2 on Master-System????

@Retronomicon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Yeah, I was doing it from memory when I started and though that it was for the master system for some reason. I was remembering the Box Art which reminded me oh how the sega master system game boxes looked.

@zxcvbn9364

Жыл бұрын

Sega Genesis.

I could never get used to the confusing spell names like trimate or nasar. They couldn't just use something simple like Fire or heal. Plus it's rare for an RPG to have stats in 3 digits when the typical ones are at least 4 digits long (9999HP, 255 stats)

@xamuca22

2 жыл бұрын

Not in the 16bit era. Cada serie tem seus nomes de magia e do Phantasy star sempre foram criativos.

Phantasy star zero look like a 3ds game not a ds game

@erueka6

2 жыл бұрын

Is there even a difference anymore other than screen quality shits old

It used to be a contender. But thanks to Sega, it's a washed up has been. -_-

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad too, cause Phantasy Star 4 is still one of my favorite, if not my favorite RPG. Wish Phantasy Star Online didn't eclipse it. I like that too, but it doesn't have the same feeling of the original series in tone or story.

@chrisrj9871

3 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon - same story if we're talking about Final Fantasy 6 vs. Final Fantasy 7 onward.

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrj9871 I love both entries and the Remake was fantastic, but it changed completely from 6 to 7, especially the artwork which I miss so much. It became much more generic compared to previous entries. I am still holding out for a ff6 remake that isn't just some chibi stuff. Heck, Tera already has a great version of her in the Dissidia NT game, so they can definitely do it. Hopefully FF7 remake sells big enough to make them revisit the older games.

@kidkytes6233

3 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon Rieko Kodama has said she's got a script ready and waiting for Phantasy Star 5. She just needs Sega to approve it and give her a team.

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

@@kidkytes6233 I would hope for one soon, at least remake phantasy 4 like they did with 1 and 2.

Ok, 2 things, but before that, big thumbs up to you. Ok, phantasy star online and others after that ruined the gaming, ps should always been a turn base rpg and second. I had no idea there was an idola phantasy star game on android, it looks like turn basec so im downloading it ad i type. Oh and phantasy gen 1 and 2 is super awsame

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed on all points. Idola is pretty cool, turned base, but very much a Waifu collection game. That doesn't mean it's bad, it just ins't what Phantasy Star should be. I hope for a Phantasy Star 5 one day but I think it will just end up like the Shining Series did.

@mccoy4369

3 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon funny you mention the shining games as i just come off playing shining in the darkness lol. The android ps game is too much like most android games, if they wanted to spice up that game, they could of added ps1,2,3 or 4 charatet, or maybe the other ps games. Id love to see a phantasy star 5 or phantasy star gen 3 and 4. Who knows, these things never die, look at things that ended in the 80s and making a come back. And baldurs gate 3. So maybe they make a phantasy staf 5.

@mccoy4369

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, and i didnt know i was talking to the youtuber who did this video, i should of shown more repect. My bad.

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

@@mccoy4369 You didn't disrespect. I agree with you, I also have an evolution vid of the Shining Series, that series went the same way as Phantasy Star did. Diverging greatly from its roots.

@mccoy4369

3 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon yeah but i feel i wadnt polight enough, as a youtuber myself, i think i should treat desent youtubers with full respect. Oh nice, ill check it out. Im also doing a playthrough of a phantasy star romhack called phantasy star hordes of nei, the 1st on youtube to have a full playthrough haha. But its on hold for now.

Commentary I feel would have significantly elevated this. Consider a reupload?

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely, I will consider it. I have been working on other projects with commentary explaining certain games.

*Sighs* what a Shame....

@Retronomicon

3 жыл бұрын

It is unfortunate where Phantasy Star went, but I am looking forward to the New MMO coming out. I still could use a Phantasy Star 4 remake or a part 5 though.

@tonyknighton4019

3 жыл бұрын

@@Retronomicon PT 5 is never going to happen but a remake of PS4 and the others isn't a bad idea....As long as it's faithful to the original source material it's cool. Edit: actually scratch that, miss Kodama has a script ready for Phantasy Star V and at this point I would have something rather than nothing.

@stefanswiss3760

3 жыл бұрын

I would have loved a part 5. I wish sega let a small team develop a sequel on the side but it should have been done by retro passionate teams. I wouldn't be too pleased with a sequel full of waifu, photon laser tech and Shonen stuff. I liked the original serie for its balance between mythical magic and science fiction like star wars. Just a little mistake in the video, the first phantasy star was on Master system ;)

@tonyknighton4019

3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanswiss3760 It should have been done by said teams. But thanks to the sheer popularity of PSO (as a whole, People Like PSU as well.) IF they ever make a PSV (Which I hope they don't.) They'll go exactly for the Waifus, Photons and Shonen stuff because that's exactly what is driving the JP market, boosting the interest in Japanese media, And helping PSO's popularity. I mean look at Idola. All style without substance. (No matter what people say.) And full of Waifus. But people like it, because of that, not because it's a Phantasy Star game. Not that it feels like much of a Phantasy Star game to begin with In my opinion, (It's more or less just another pedestal for PSO2 rather than a Anniversary game.) But the core gameplay is pretty good.

@stefanswiss3760

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyknighton4019 agreed, Didn't play Idola but it was pretty obvious from the screens that it was this kind of game. I am sure they are quite competent with their game mechanics but wished for something else. Although on a side note, I am confident in the idea that had they invested in a compelling adult story (distancing themselves from the obvious click bait girl characters and Isekai/ run of the mill scenarios), they could have hooked a fan base around new interesting characters that could be then exploited in cross overs and merchandise (like personna characters or FF whose skin or character you'll find in many many games). The problem with PSO (a very good game in itself) is that your character being a random guy not more important than the other thousands of player, you won't get the same effect as in a solo turn based (or not) RPG. Also I didn't play but saw what they did to Alys introducing her in PSO2 ep5 with her costume that leaves little to imagination and a basic storyline. I am not very found of it.

Pso2 new genesis sucks the enemies are the main problem to me they suck none of them are cool at all garbage game