For those who can’t read the dates or names clearly: 0:00 Proto-Indo-European (2500BC - 1000BC) 1:01 Proto-Germanic (1000BC - 200AD) 2:24 West Germanic (200AD - 600AD) 3:34 Old High German (600AD - 1050AD) 4:30 Middle High German (1050AD - 1500AD) 5:19 Modern German (1500AD - Present) You’re welcome!

@denmarkisbabeychangemymind8079

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, kind stranger

@Nullius_in_verba

3 жыл бұрын

PIE is dated 3500bc,can i assume this is NWIE(north west indo european)?

@moistness482

3 жыл бұрын

Gosh, almost forgot to like, thank you

@Mary_Kraensel

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha Thank YOU!! 😁

@M1chael.P

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

So i am german, and here is a list how much in understood from each stage of the development Proto-Indoeuropean: 0% Protogermanic: 10-20% Old-High-german: 85-95% middle-high-german: 100% modern-high-german: 100% Danke again :)

@HonestSaxSound-unEdited-

4 жыл бұрын

Exact!! Ich glaube diese theorie ist einfach nichts anderes als "theorie"

@dershogun6396

4 жыл бұрын

@@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- Was für eine Theorie ? Könnte es sein, das dein Kommentar Opfer einen Fehler wurde, den es bei YT gibt und bei dem ein Kommentar unter ein anderes Video gepostet wird.

@hedwigk.228

4 жыл бұрын

Der Shogun same :D

@jacobrose4805

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not german but i speak it pretty well and for me it was Proto-Indoeuropean: 0% Protogermanic: 5% Old-High-german: 50% middle-high-german: 80% modern-high-german: 100%

@Oradon01

3 жыл бұрын

Same here Shogun.

As a native German speaker, while reading the text I can partly grasp the gist of the two stages (proto Germanic and west Germanic) before OHG (which is rather easy to get) because I recognize some familiar words, but listening to those early German predecessors is like next level to me lol

@robroux6074

4 жыл бұрын

are you swabi??? It also depends which region of Germany you are from.

@bulafuqqi4914

4 жыл бұрын

Kann ich zustimmen

@maxx1014

4 жыл бұрын

@@robroux6074it *used* to depend on which region you were from because high German bases heavily on upper and middle German varieties whilst lower German was once a different language. But nowadays hardly anyone speaks lower German anymore, so everybody (from the younger generation at least) can speak a relatively smooth high German.

@masterman1001

4 жыл бұрын

As a native swiss-german speaker, it's just as easy, if not easier. After all, our dialects are slightly less developed and somewhat closer to middle high german.

@danienordin1488

4 жыл бұрын

I'm starting to learn Deutsch

Starting from old high German I could understand pretty much everything, i'm a native Austrian German speaker

@sehabel

3 жыл бұрын

I think it sounds even better than modern German, but Austrian German is still the best (My mother's parents both speak it)

@bogdanpetrovic3759

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, so if we somehow find our self in 12th century Germany or Austria. We are gonna have no problem.

@HariF94

3 жыл бұрын

Native Austria German speaker lol. Is still German.

@yakovmatityahu

3 жыл бұрын

You are a Ninja German then.

@fsn473

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know how true this is, but I think that we Austrians have a bit of an "advantage" understanding old german. I'm from styria and understand the dialect rather Well and feel like we still use the Same / use "Same sounding" "dialect-words" today

WOW good job! I could understand the beginning "Alle Menschen sind Frei" already at the second text.

@derlinclaire1778

4 жыл бұрын

Translation for first verse:All people are free.

Translation: "All Humans are free and born the same with rights and dignity. They are talented in reasoning and conscience and should approach each other in brotherly spirit. Everyone has a right to life, freedom and personal safety. Nobody is to be kept in slavery or serfdom; slavery and slave trade are forbidden in all their forms. Nobody is to be oppressed by torture or gruesome, inhumane or humiliating methods or punishments. Everyone has a right to be recognized anywhere as having a legal capacity." Im really impressed at how you managed to pronounce all this, especially the modern German. A few errors here and there, but I was able to understand you. Great work!!

To anyone who doesn't know, this is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (you should start letting people know the original source material for further research in your videos)

@darkalligraph

4 жыл бұрын

I could tell by Old High German cause "alle menschen sind frei" and I just watch way to many language videos..

@raquelfabro7995

4 жыл бұрын

yer bloody right

@EVROPAEAESTHETICA

4 жыл бұрын

Universal Declaration of Human Rights - gross.

@fihilist

4 жыл бұрын

@@julianerikson4191 Traffic? What kind of White supremacist inventions are you trying to peddle, we need to return to dirtroads, for equality you bigot.

@bobbobete9546

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up bitcg lol

As a native speaker I only started to understand the text at about 3:35 hahaha I then went back and noticed many similarities I didn't notice when I first listened to it

The title switch for language development periods was too fast. Please do a single frame which last at least a few seconds to show which time frame it is on. Thanks!

Its incredible how vowels changed so much in terms of quality in german languages. As an Italian native speaker (italian have a very simple vowel system) i would have no problem to read the first 2-3 scripts, whereas i would have some trouble from the 3rd script on

I, as a german, can start understanding things at 3:34! I didn‘t think I could understand things that early!

Evolution of portuguese!!!

@whiteipod2000

3 жыл бұрын

DIVIDE ET IMPERA it isnt. Castilian and Portuguese developed differently. The Iberian peninsula contains various languages.

Do all of the translations mean the same thing?🤔

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! At long last x)

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

@@tweekerlivesmatter People kept asking for it, just like the reindeer god asks for the eg

@tweekerlivesmatter

4 жыл бұрын

ABAlphaBeta asking for eggs?🥚

@JDRL96

4 жыл бұрын

LilYee1708 You really had made a great job improving from your last video and hearing from the feedback ;)

@tweekerlivesmatter

4 жыл бұрын

JDRL96 the only other thing I said was egg 🥚

At the beginning of the Middle High German part I realized that the text is the Universeal Declaration of Human Rights.

Can we hear the evolution of Icelandic or Irish?

@schurup2994

4 жыл бұрын

Languages evolve Icelandic : I'm cool here

@Zinogre5730

4 жыл бұрын

Gonna be a short video on the evolution of icelandic. As for irish i would enjoy if it included the divergence into Irish (Gaeilge), Scots Gaelic (Gàidhlig), and Manx (Gaelg) but that might be a bit too much

@simonidastankovic2627

4 жыл бұрын

@Spongebob Squarepants Bravo

@elsakristina2689

4 жыл бұрын

@Spongebob Squarepants Yeah, that's it!

post-bronze age collapse proto-germanic? (with a cheruscian dialect?)

very interesting, i'm a native german speakers and still heard a foreign accent out in modern german :P but i am sure the influence on the pronounciation on the earlier german stages havent been too big

Danke so sehr zum Weitergeben! So faszinierend und erstaunlich wie Deutsch (was wir heute als Standarddeutsch verstehen) über zwei Jahrtausenden sich so entwickelt hat...Ich find's so schön dass ab Althochdeutsch ich fähig zu erkennen war dass die Schrift "die allgemeine Erklärung der Menschenrechte" immer war! Es freut mich so sehr zu sehen, in welchen Sprachen gewisse gewöhnliche deutsche Wörter zum ersten Mal erschienen. Mach's mal weiter!

Speaking as a Norwegian, I recognized some words from the very start and realized which text it was by the Old High Germanic. Lovely video.

Middle High German pronunciations such as sixərheit instead of ˈzɪçɐhaɪ̯t are still common in southwestern Germany and in Switzerland.

That was very interesting. I'm a German and already recognized the text in Proto-Germanic but could understand the whole thing only until Old High German. But it would probably be much more difficult if it was a less known text and/or if I could only hear it but not read it. That would be an even more interesting experience. And for the next video: I think an english translation would be nice for those who don't speak the language.

Great video! I hope we get to 10k by next week!

Could you post the English translation of whatever you read in your videos? You're quickly becoming one of the most popular linguists on KZread because of how we can hear how people from every corner of the world spoke throughout the past several millennia, and as a History student and future teacher myself, I can't thank you enough for making all this content! I'll be able to give my students an idea of how people spoke from the time of PIE onward thanks to your videos.

Evolution of English it’s such a strange mix of European languages

@giorgosxaralampous5938

4 жыл бұрын

And greek

@leod-sigefast

4 жыл бұрын

It is not a mix. It is no more a mix as any other European language. It has a quite clear linear evolution from Modern English -> Middle English -> Old English -> Anglo-Frisian -> West Germanic -> Proto-Germanic -> Proto Indo-European. All the other influences are mainly borrowed words from Old Norse, Old and Middle French. But the English part of the language and the grammar is still core and evolved from Old English, with some Old Norse influence in conjugation dropping and the introduction of 'are, they, them'.

@TheIamtheoneandonly1

4 жыл бұрын

English = Romance flesh on Germanic bones.

@Hrabns

4 жыл бұрын

Leode Siefast It’s not quite that simple. English is a very complex language, until 1066 English was almost completely Germanic, “Anglish” with bits of Britannic Celtic. Modern English though is only roughly 25% Germanic-Nordic according to Professor Joseph M. Williams. Now though it’s made up of Germanic, French, Latin, Greek and Celtic mainly, with influences from Arabic, Hebrew, Spanish and others. English is a strange mix of European languages that from the very beginning of its evolution in Britannia mixed in the local Celtic people’s as we are slowly rediscovering thanks to genetic research and linguistical analysis.

@leod-sigefast

4 жыл бұрын

@@Hrabns Its lineage is still from Old English and that is its most profound influence. It has no more admixture than any other Indo-European except in its large lexicon than has come from Norse and French but its core remains Old English, as does its grammar. To bring Hebrew, Spanish and Arabic into the discussion shows that you don't know what you are talking about. Alcohol...a scientific word from Arabic, yes, and? Every language has borrowed that word. Biblical names from Hebrew...yes...and so has every European language borrowed that Johanne in German for example, Tapas yes it is a Spanish word everyone uses it, in all languages - to claim Spanish, Hebrew and Arabic had a massive influence on English is laughable! In Science, religion modern culture, maybe, but everyday English usage, wordstock and grammar, no way! English is not different, it just borrowed a hell of a lot more words from other languages. It doesn't change the fact the it is Old English at core. Please provide me some examples to further your argument.

Intriguing linguistic journey! Your dedication to historical linguistics is commendable. The evolution of languages is truly captivating. Looking forward to more insightful content. Kudos!

Wow, this is pretty cool! Very interesting, thanks for sharing! Greetings from Germany!

For me it began to be comprehensible from the Middle German, 1050 AD. I noticed that first almost all the words were longer, indicating that conjunctions, articles and preposition were inexistent and/or substituted by case endings (which reminds me a lot of Latin that I'm studying). Eventually there began to appear smaller letters which are especially articles and prepositions whilst the number and uses of cases diminished greatly.

Thank you for this. It was marvelous!!

I like how into it he gets

That was cool, i could even understand the beginning at the very first stage, but after that i couldnt understand anything. Pretty cool that "alle menschen" pretty much stayed the same over millenias

you are the only one to have translated theese proto-languages in a fully articulated text that isnt the classical "sheep and horse" thing. You have my admiration. thanks to your effort to bring this treasure to common people's attention. i speak also about the two other european's languages that you made

Great video, thank you!

When you put the title of the year from the different languages and the classification in breezes by so fast that I don’t know what period Progression and I Danity you’re referencing I’m not fluent in German but as we get forward middle high German I can start understanding some of the words a little better

Light: *exists as the fastest thing in the universe* The dating parts of the video: allow us to introduce ourselves

Very interesting, thank you! The timeline indicators are displayed a bit too fast for my taste. Please also show the timeline on screen while reading the text passages. Other than that, great sruff!

So badass... I love German Please do a video about frankish...

It’s really interesting that the farther back you go, the lower the pitch is

Thanks , well done ! Would love to see parts of the Rig Veda in a similar way : PIE , Proto Indo_Iranian , Proto Indo-Aryan , Vedic Sanskrit , Classical Sanskrit , Prakrit , Hindi .

Very good video! Can you do a video about the evolution of Italian?

+ABAlphaBeta *One omission that I noticed on the video side is the lack of specific letters used up to the **_Deutſche Bund_** era.* The Latin lower case long S (ſ), along with digraphs of specific consonantal pairs, had been introduced in Dark-Ages Textur-style manuscripts by Roman Catholic scribes. Don't know whether pre-Christian Germans had a precedent in Runic textboards.

Eine gute Idee zur Sprachentwicklung, greetings from Korea, a good lesson for language development

great that you read the same text so that we can follow and compare.. thanks for the great video do evolution of Spanish next please

Pretty good stuff! Do you know when the Germanic languages' /r/ changed from trills and taps to their rhotic and schwa forms? For example, the modern (high) German language has to trill, nor tap, but instead every /r/ is rhotic before vowels, and a schwa before consonants.

As a Native speaker I can understan everything from 600 AC to today when I read it. Thats amazing. However understanding by listening to the spoken is far more difficult.

As a German/English bilingual, here is what I picked up on during my first listening: Proto-Indo-European: Absolutely nothing. Nada. Nil. Fancy sounds. Proto-Germanic: Nope. Sounds like a fantasy language. West Germanic: The sounds sound more familiar but I couldn't pick up any meaning beyond individual words. I couldn't even get a sense of what is being talked about. (With hindsight, I could possibly have worked out one or two sentences if I had taken my time, but not at the speed you were reading) Old High German: Okay, major revolution here. I suddenly understood that it's a legal text. It's talking about what rights people have and what's forbidden and so on. I wouldn't be confident trying to define the *exact* contents, since a lot of key nouns are still confusing, but I can understand the general gist of every sentence and hear a lot of phrases _still familiar_ from modern legal documents. I'd say it's about 80% understandable to me at this point. Middle High German: It no longer sounds alien and starts sounding like a foreigner speaking broken German with a very heavy accent. I understood 100% of the words, including some parts I didn't pick up on previously (e.g. several references to slavery in all its forms being illegal). Modern German: This is now a sentence as it could be written in an actual legal document. Your pronunciation still gives me strong foreign/accent vibes, which I suppose puts my previous claim into context. You're also mispronouncing some words (e.g. Leibeigenschaft; it's two words Leib-Eigenschaft, the stress should be on the Ei). Still a very good job :)

There's a little flaw in Middle High German: The a in "an" as well as the first a in "anerkannt" and the a in "Strafe" are spoken with a dark a. The collapse of front and back a is one of the big differences between Middle High German and modern German. This opposition is still existent in all High German and some Middle German dialects until today (which is also why I remarked it in the first place).

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

According to the resources I used, there was not yet a back a vowel in the early stages of Middle High German

Who is that one disliker?

3:34 is where i start understanding some parts. it is also where i realize that you have a very strong accent ^^. Would be intersting to hear a german read this.

Early Proto-Indo-Iranian (first part) SárHwās Hnáras táygʲasi Hr̥táy kʲa waĉatás samHatás kʲa ĵn̥Hyántay. Táy kʲitˢtáH mánasaH kʲa dádHn̥tay Hántaray práti bʰraHtrásya pn̥tHáH kriHánt.

un vídeo maravilloso! te da una idea de cómo era de distinto un idioma quena simple creencia pudiese decir que era el mismo!! cuando en realidad pasa por una EVOLUCION enorme!

I'm not a native speaker, and I'm certainly not fluent, but I got excited when I could understand the gist of the text in Old High German.

Man, kinda wished you did New Early German, given that much would have changed from 1500 till present day, though excellent video overall. As a pure suggestion, perhaps you can do the evolution of the various English dialects/accents, like American or Australian English or something of the sort; there are hardly any videos on KZread which talks about this evolution process between Shakespeare's English through up to the 19-20th century, so yeah..

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

I actually was gonna include it, but it just wasn't too different, at least not with the phonological reference I was using - it was just kind of "Modern German but they say the r like the olden days", a bit like 19th century French which is identical to modern but for one or two vowels being a semi-tone up the openness ladder and the r being different, lol. West-European areal changes ftw

I'd like to request a Portuguese and Welsh evolution video

I started to understand some words when it started with west german and fully understood phrases in Alt- Hochdeutsch (old high german). Quite interesting to see when you start recognising your mother tongue.

@slateres

Жыл бұрын

But no offence here but you misspelled a lot of german words in modern german. So I’m kinda keen if the spelling is right in Alt- Hochdeutsch etc.

@tamuh5415

Жыл бұрын

@@slateres Was zu beweisen wäre. Ich sehe keine Fehler im modernen Deutsch. Which has to be proven. I don't see any mistakes in modern German.

Ds isch würchli wiä schwytzerdütsch! Säh interessant! Merci viumau!

Ich möchte dir danken, daß die diesen Beispieltext ausgewählt hast.

@gerokron3412

3 жыл бұрын

*edit: du

Uhm, the modern German sounds like a foreigner that learns English 🤔😅

@reverendbecker

3 жыл бұрын

Not a native speaker but he does quite a good job.

Que buen canal ❤

Where can I find information on West Germanic?

You don't know how fast I klicked on your video. Ok as a German I could understand; PIE: only Oljoi mánnusoi, bhratreinas, senti and awti. PGmc: I understood the entire first sentence. Hijoz sindi midi, bigebanaz andi, þammai gaistai þas broþerlikano, werþana, sindi in allamaz furibudanaz, Nioman þammai harma, underwurpanaz werþana, þat rehtano, habaiþi, allammai, rehtasduhtigai anuzkannidaz to weþana. Aiwhwaþeraz gabaiþi þat rehtano upp libjana, frijahaidiwi andi sukurahaidiwi selbammai. Once you get what text this is and what sound changes happend you slowly get the grip. Pretty much the same with PWGMC. I won't do the 3 German versions, because that would be more of a "I could not understand" challenge thanks to them being well... my mother language. I really appreciate the work that you have done! :)

Can you do the same video again, this time for the Low German branch? Do Old Saxon -> Middle Low Gernan -> Low German please.

Bravo! Very nice

The part where I finally started picking up a word here and there was when the narrator ran through the Old High German script. The other three predecessors - respectively Proto Indo-European, Proto-Germanic and West Germanic - were completely incomprehensible to me when looking at any word from both of the scripts in those three ancient languages.

I can't really understand German but by the first change it looked like the first article of the universal declaration of human rights to me

how do you upload a constant stream of high quality videos?

As a current German leaner and an old learner of Latin, it’s odd how the the oldest one follows similar feel of Latin through definitely different

Das war sehr schön gelesen. Danke dir :)

@derlinclaire1778

4 жыл бұрын

Translation:That was a fine reading.Thank you.Bitte,just how good was my translation? Danke schoen,meine lieber Freundin.

@Ingestohter

4 жыл бұрын

@@derlinclaire1778 The translation was good. It is: meine liebe Freundin, because "lieber" is masculin.

Very nice video. Could you share the texts used in the video?

Yesterday I've been in Lusérn, the last village in Italy where the local population still speaks Cimbrian and I noticed that, at least in written form, it's reminds me of Old High German. You can find some examples here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimbrian_language

@TalibanSymphonyOrchestra

2 жыл бұрын

Cimbri...Germanic tribe...

please create a video reading Darius the Great's tomb inscription: "baga vazraka Auramazdā"

I'm a beginner in German and I mostly understand the Middle High German. I'm surprised that modern German has been spoken since 1500 AD. But makes sense for me, because the form of their sentences are like 'primitive'

is it possible to know approximately when north germanic languages branched off from the rest lf the germanic family? i feel like the “west germanic” at around 200 - 600 bc mark resembles modern icelandic. to my understanding, modern icelandic hasn’t changed much from old norse over the last millenium and i wonder if it can be traced back to that date.

Hey! Could you consider doing a video on the Evolution on Dutch? It would be interesting comparing it with German!

2:00 four lines from the bottom and last word in the line barf

old high german, understood 90% and onwards 100

Ein tolles Video für meine Deutschlerner. Danke:-)

5:19 Translation: All people are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should meet one another in a spirit of brotherhood. Everyone has the right to life, freedom and personal security. Nobody should be held in slavery or serfdom; Slavery and the slave trade are prohibited in all their forms. Nobody should be subjected to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Everyone has the right to be recognized as having legal capacity everywhere.

The sound of the language gets increasingly uptight through the ages.

i understand parts of 1050ad and almost everything after that. i speak swiss german very good video👍

Did you make all the translations yourself?

Interesting stuff, but where do the reconstructed stages like Proto-Indo-European and Proto-Germanic come from? Who composed those? It's rare to see relatively lengthy texts like that in reconstructed proto-languages

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

I made them myself!

@Scottishenglish

4 жыл бұрын

@@ABAlphaBeta Consider me officially impressed. Some serious studying required for that.

The time and name when in between paragraphs zooms past way too quick.

The change just from proto indo european to proto germanic is very large. Mind you each change seems quite large to me

@jebdunkins6796

4 жыл бұрын

Either way new subscriber loving the channel keep up the good work

@bulafuqqi4914

4 жыл бұрын

After Old High German I don't feel like it changed that much though

@gdz1103

4 жыл бұрын

proto germanic sounds like ancient egyptian

@jebdunkins6796

4 жыл бұрын

@Benedek Tóth that would make sense. PIE seems very similar to latin in terms of phonology. It takes until west germanic appears for the resemblance to modern german to become apparent

Great that you could do this Video but your accent is not very good for the recent German. But it's great that you took the time to learn the old german and publish it in such Manner. Wich apparently no native speaker did to this extent so props for that 👍

It's sad that we can't see the translation of these textes; it would be intetesting to see what examples did you use and what they are about.

Could you do an evolution of Gaeilge if it were possible?

Is cool zu wissen, dass man im Spätmittelalter in Deutschland klar gekommen wäre

As of old high German it is basically the same language we use today. the proto west germanic is understandable everything before not...at least not without listening several times

a couple pronounciation mistakes, but mostly good, Proto-Indoeuropean: 0% Protogermanic: 5% Old-High-german: 70% middle-high-german: 100% modern-high-german: 100%

I loved listening to ancient German read with a Roman accent. Gratias tibi ago!

the early versions literally sounds like the dragontounge in skyrim..

Cool! Didn't know that old german appeared so similar to modern Icelandic.(And yes I know that Icelandic is also germanic)

As a German native speaker and german language student I want give 3 points of Feedback: 1. I recognised the text with the start of the Proto-Germanic translation. Respect for the work you did on translating 2. Your modern German sounds well. You just miss some correct word stresses and have difficulties to pronounce /ch/ as [ç] while pronouncing it rather as a [x] which sounds a bit like Austrian-German ;) But that is high lvl critique. You are well understood. 3. I noticed you pronouncing /sk/ in OHG and WGmc as a Modern German /sch/, [​ʃ​]. As far I know /sk/ in OHG (and therfore in WGmc) is pronounced as [sk]. Did you learn differently? Greetings Hendrik =)

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

As far as I'm concerned /sk/ disappeared in Late Proto-Germanic because of one of the sound change laws!

Danke

Does anyone knows when the passage from a rolled "r" to the moder german "r" occurred?

Großartig !💪💪👍😋

nice listend to the feedback

Could you also put the translation somewhere pretty please? In the description, perhaps?

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

It's the first few articles of the declaration of human rights, minus article 2, but sure thing though!

@umbrellastation25

4 жыл бұрын

@@ABAlphaBeta Great! Thanks! I'm unfamiliar with the document, and could pick up some parts ("all men are free...") but only due to english-german cognates. The rest of it quite flew over my head.

wow! war total erstaunt, als old high german kam und ich fast alles verstand!

What are these small circles under the letters? Voiceless consonant?

@ABAlphaBeta

4 жыл бұрын

In PIE? They indicate that the consonant is syllabic and must be pronounced alone and not as part of a cluster