While watching the documentary my boyfriend and I realized that Brian is burried at cemetery we take walks at often, tonight we took a walk and found his grave to pay our respects. So very sad and tragic that this happened to a guy like him.

@emilytoole1524

6 жыл бұрын

nswe2002 thank you.

@yyznawar6568

6 жыл бұрын

Which cemetery is he buried in.?

@nswe2002

6 жыл бұрын

Nawar Salim Wintergreen Gorge cemetery in Erie Pa

@yes2542

6 жыл бұрын

nswe2002 thanks for being such a kind human

@yyznawar6568

6 жыл бұрын

nswe2002 oh that's not fsr from where I live. Thanks

i just finished watching the documentary i feel so bad for Brian wells and his family , he never got justice , and i dont care if he was involved in the heist or not no one deserves to die in this way , he seem like a very innocent guy

@glendaperkins9231

3 жыл бұрын

Melissa the truth came out

@moniaarmy6273

2 жыл бұрын

@@glendaperkins9231 And?

@Alexp36500

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to America. See the legal system works for some... and if you have money it works even better. But they can't charge a person for murder if the victim was initially involved. It's not something they can do.

@davidrobinson9528

Жыл бұрын

He was in on it. 1 specific reason... Him and a conspirator both said black guys jumped and put the collar on him. If he wasn't involved why lie about who put the collar on him at the point of police presence? He could easily told the truth and said who actually put it on him. Why lie if you're not involved? Brian Wells was not a victim. I believe he didn't think the bomb was real and that they'd outsmart the police

@donniev8181

Жыл бұрын

I cannot figure out why he didn't use the shotgun/cane to force them to take it off if he was totally innocent? Plus, why he didn't just drive straight to the police station and ask for the bomb squad??

So disturbing. Cant get brian out of my head. His situation being so helpless even sorrounded by the authority who kept pointing gun on him even tho he was fully cooperating.😔😔😔 Also there was media. i really feel sorry for this man whether he is used or completely innocent. no one could save you in times like that.

@GaneshRathod-fp1hm

3 жыл бұрын

I m jst wondering if as sources says that Brian knew about this robbery then why didn't he told the police abt his accomplices before dying

@raghadradi8840

2 жыл бұрын

@@GaneshRathod-fp1hm I mean they did say he was easy to get manipulated to and liked scavenger hunts, so my theory they may have told him its a game and he obviously ran to do, but I think when jessica went to go see him, I dont think they told him its the REAL deal and he may have thought its just a fake one....or maybe threatend him with the baby jessica has since they didnt tell us yet what month she was at then, I dont think the child is his tbh, the picture in her facebook doesnt seem his kid.

@haarshanhaarshan7553

2 жыл бұрын

@@GaneshRathod-fp1hm yes he was in the plot too..that's y he lied to the police that group of black people force him to do this.. if he knew the bomb is real he will definitely tell the truth to the police ..his accomplices must have told him it's fake bomb look real... another point If he knew it's a was real bomb he would have been rushing for time to finish the whole thing, but here he is taking his own sweet time calmly walking out of the bank and went to mcd look so relax...very strange...

@GaneshRathod-fp1hm

2 жыл бұрын

@@haarshanhaarshan7553 yeah that sounds legit

@strawberryseason

2 жыл бұрын

I come from Erie. He was "slow" mentally.

Just watched this. Most amazing insight into a truely evil and twisted mind. Absolute must watch doco. Very much reminded me of the Australian collar bomber case.

@johnnyfavorite1194

6 жыл бұрын

leokimvideo Yes, but the Australian Collar Bomb was fake! This was 100% real and lethal.

@chillallthekildren

6 жыл бұрын

leokimvideo The bitch robbed a bank to get the money to have her DAD killed to get the money. PSYCHO

@chrshew

6 жыл бұрын

I loved it!

@MarMaxGaming

6 жыл бұрын

Simon Zellous I don’t follow!

@PradoDesignStudios

6 жыл бұрын

leokimvideo I just watched it too very good documentary

Man this was so good the state and FBI pissed me off it felt like they were actively trying to not solve it

@crocks2871

6 жыл бұрын

Rose LeAnn I felt the same way

@lawrencehenderson9451

4 жыл бұрын

I watched it yes with so called law enforcement squabbling over jurisdiction info not given at the right time and before anything else they should brought in the bomb squad when the call came in .

@nict5828

4 жыл бұрын

I felt like they accept every snitches to close the case..Snitches in prison are willingly say anything to get their time reduce.

As someone who lives in Erie, let me tell you, this shit got NUTS the more the case unfolded.

@yyznawar6568

6 жыл бұрын

kws2534 as also a fellow Resident of Erie, 2001 was a crazy ass year and I agree. Still can't figure out if Wells was a victim, part of it, or part of the plan but wasn't supposed to die (bomb was supposed to be fake.)

@AltiMenace

6 жыл бұрын

kws2534 yeah I live here still to

@FLdancer00

3 жыл бұрын

@@yyznawar6568 You should watch the doc, it clears that up.

@borneocoolpad7833

2 жыл бұрын

There's so many shits show in Erie, PA that i can tell you 🤔🤷

@davidrobinson9528

Жыл бұрын

This case got crazy as it unfolded no matter where you live. Living in Erie doesn't make you more informed or effected than anyone any where else in the country. Sowell killed so many women here where I live don't mean I have inside Intel more than anyone else in the country.

Gotta love how the American police love NOT solving mysteries SO much that they are willing to put their failures on Netflix.

@crocks2871

6 жыл бұрын

dan wheeler this was more than just an embarrassing failure.. you see the facial expressions that Jerry Clark who was one of the lead FBI investigators on the case.. I mean he’s really embarrassed but doesn’t even care

@sean8081a

5 жыл бұрын

It's like they intentionally withheld evidence from each other to make the other department look bad. They mentioned a power struggle between the departments to be in charge.

@youtubebot5054

4 жыл бұрын

And to the fact that those investigators confessed that they had been manipulated all along. It's like a chess game that the government officials were Pawns and the murderers and co., were the Horse, Bishop, King, and Queen all along. What a turn around. I LOVE AMERICA!

@juanstepbehind

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@abigt282

3 жыл бұрын

Zodiac case also could not be solved

Just finished watching this fascinating and disturbing story. What a cast of unsavory characters and Marjorie was like a real life black widow.

@Purple1984Rain

6 жыл бұрын

Hi, No they show the explosion but it’s blurred out for obvious reasons. There is a freeze frame shot of him deceased on the pavement though.

@namelessperson8870

5 жыл бұрын

Did the guy with the bomb on his neck survive?

@perfectlyyoubeauty

5 жыл бұрын

Red Velvet umm no he was used as pawn sad story

@ariesbayeta

5 жыл бұрын

Feel like i was watching a Saw series with those tapes and traps.

@criticalmass527

4 жыл бұрын

@@namelessperson8870 I'm not sure, but if he did he must have been awful sore in the morning

Love Netflix documentaries! Also the town is called 'Erie'...how eery

@MrTheDutchvideos

6 жыл бұрын

Jacky J and eerie too

@robinlaurence6284

6 жыл бұрын

There was a kids show that was a play on the town’s name. Really freaky indeed!

@alertstatusred5191

6 жыл бұрын

Eerie Indiana!

@jewshulu9718

6 жыл бұрын

Jacky J they are ok but making a murderer was so one sided and left out alot of stuff that made it obvious steven avery was a psychopath like him burning a cat alive and having fantasys of making a rape dungeon and how is nephew led police to crucial evidence they would not have been able to find without his testimony all glanced over in the documentary cuz they wanted you to think he was innocent

@Retailman100

6 жыл бұрын

Jacky J I live in Erie. I was here when this happened. I remember the live news showing the bomber in a close up. He kept saying, "You gotta get it off me! It's a BOMB! I don't have the key! I DON'T HAVE A KEY!!! IT'S GONNA GO OFF!!!!"

Look at the way he's sitting in the.middle of that road...ao sad...made me cry

It’s funny how a person not related to the FBI or Police Investigation did more than the actually FBI and Police Investigation

@johnking4941

3 жыл бұрын

I know I'm late I apologise for that. I am in total agreement with you. What an excellent point and great observation. I just watched the series I was just now realizing what you said is so accurate

@DigiPal

3 жыл бұрын

I think that the same thing happened in Zodiac murders. Police investigation focused on the same thing for too long, didn't shared evidences and compete between each others. It take someone to look from outside and start the process again, with another point of vue.

Superb and mind blowing. I feel so sorry for Wells and his family. No matter whether he was involved in the heist or not. He was killed in cold blood and no one did anything to help him. The FBI and the ATF were as usual completely useless. Bunch of idiots.

@Daedroh

5 жыл бұрын

Wells himself didn't believe the bomb was real. The tone in his voice didn't come off as someone who was fearing for their life, he actually thought they had placed a fake. He got double-crossed to kill off as many witnesses as they could. Seems like that's what actually went down.

@theren2486

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daedroh this is so sad...

@Alexp36500

2 жыл бұрын

Um were you gonna walk up to him while it started ticking? Cuz I sure wouldn't. Would you make your best friend walk up to him? Again I wouldn't. I don't think anyone thought it would go off. I hate cops as much as the next person. But in this case I wouldn't have gone near him either 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Alexp36500

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daedroh which is why no one can be charged. Honestly there's no physical evidence it's all hearsay... hard to prosecute

@davidrobinson9528

Жыл бұрын

I actually think the bank robbery was a ploy to cover that Marge killed her boyfriend and I'll be dam it worked.

Stop adding good things

@drewzeegrows

6 жыл бұрын

Two-Face for every one good thing they add they add 10 trash homeade films.

@ssbif2423

6 жыл бұрын

Two-Face truth.. I need to study!

@contactkeithstack

6 жыл бұрын

lol so true, I can't get anything done

@two-face1041

6 жыл бұрын

johntrollston420 I disagree

@contactkeithstack

6 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a bit long; it was still great.

After watching the whole series I think William Rothstein was someone like Walter white(Breaking Bad). Probably after knowing that he had Cancer, he and Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong might have decided to do the heist. They wanted to do it not for money but for other reasons, they wanted to show the world how smart they are. Marjorie already had a history of getting away with a murder, and on top of that, she made money out of a murder that she commited, from this she learned that she can outsmart the juditiary system and get away with anything. And she enjoyed getting attention and she wanted to be famous. Thats must be reason why William called 911 to report on Marjorie as planned by Marjorie and him. So that they would have the control of the whole situation before Police reaches them, they knew that Police would come for them sooner or later. They dint want both to be in jail. Marjorie wanted William to be outside since his days were comming to and end. She on the otherhand, at jail enjoyed manupulating Police, juditiary system as well as the public. They both recruited the others by convincing them that it was a real heist. They are the victims here. Brian Wells acted cool at the bank since he thought that the bomb was fake and he believed in the couple. He only realised the facts in his final moments. Marjorie has always been confident only because William is the only person otherthan her who knows about the real plan and she trusted William 100% and William also had that samr trust. Like William's brother said, William and Marjorie was in a psych realationship. They committed those murders together and planned the heist and executed it for their own reasons. Finally, she told the inmates about the details of heist since she wanted the world to know that she was the mastermind. Amf the system cannot make her accountable for that. She always presented herself as evil. In her own words she said she is not somekind of evil genius. But the fact is she herself considered her as an evil genius. She and william were indeed evil genius. Keeping her in jail and his cancer must have saved many lives which would have lost if they were together outside. The take away from the whole tragedy is the flaws in the system which exists now. This is totaly just my point of view after watching the series.

@neekeeisshaa

2 жыл бұрын

Agree with you 100%. I'm now watching this docuseries and I found it strange that brian wells was too cool in the bank, taking a lollipop from the bowl and not panicking. Even the detective said he was calm until the bomb started ticking and believed up until that moment, wells thought the bomb was fake. He was in on it, just didn't know the masterminds had no intention of sharing the loot and because of the distance he had to drive back with the loot, he would have been killed anyway. It's sad how things unfolded but it also showed that there are consequences for one's actions. He should have never agreed to be a part of this heist.

@jackchop1576

Жыл бұрын

She wrote out those instructions. That's a manic episode.

Just binge watch all 4 Ep. Damn that lady is crazy.

@hillarybillary21

2 ай бұрын

Evil, not crazy.

I just watched this. Keep this in mind while watching.. people who say that they're smart are usually really stupid.

@footage6402

4 жыл бұрын

Dunning-kruger effect.

@juanstepbehind

4 жыл бұрын

@@footage6402 1000000% true

@saraleakes210

3 жыл бұрын

Well they dont fit that case, buecause they said that they are smart and they actually were.

@ivan199120

3 жыл бұрын

Typically I would agree with you, however, this was not the case here. These people definitely spent a good amount of time coming up with this. They thought of everything. Law enforcement would have never figured this out if Rothstein would have never called the cops about the guy in the freezer.

@saraleakes210

3 жыл бұрын

@@johngaultproductions they got away with the crime though...and it was a rather extravagant one

I remember going to school and Leaving school early because of this event in my town. My mom was a witness of this horrible event. may he rest in peace.

Just finished watching this documentary and oh my god...... Best documentary I’ve watched in a very long time, I highly recommend it.

It was a good show. I enjoyed it. But I disagree with the so called hightened intelligence of the people involved. I think the reason they skated by for so long was the lack of shared knowledge between the different law enforcement departments.

This documentary was absolutely one of the best I've seen in a long time. I'm glad I watched it because it was fascinating and moving in so many ways. I'm still processing it so I don't really know how to properly explain it so I'll just say this: *I highly recommend you watch it if you haven't!*

The way he said "It's gonna go off" with such a calm... Chills

The cops waited way too long when Brian wells told them someone strapped a live bomb to him. They didn’t believe him and watched as the poor guys head was blown away

@chrisjames7961

6 жыл бұрын

Nothing they could do... The bomb was constructed to be hard to remove even by a expert and was rigged even if it was removed. Wells had no chance of living once it was locked to his neck. There were 4 key holes and a 3 digit combination lock, on top of fake wires, a cell phone taped inside the bomb also fake to trick someone trying to defuse it and only a 20 minute timer. By the time the first cop arrived on seen he probably had like 10 minutes left and the bomb squad was 15 mins away.

@patrickm7754

6 жыл бұрын

chris james but it wasn’t set to go off from tampering from what I remember. If they REALLY wanted to go 100% and saw it off of his neck there’s guys in the bomb units that are trained for that. It’s a tough situation overall I just hated seeing the poor pizza guy get obliterated for no reason

@wrok3

6 жыл бұрын

No time for bomb crew to arrive. Use your reason.

@pepsiboy4274

4 жыл бұрын

Brian was actually guilty and got crossed..

@user-rk2ti5qn1j

3 жыл бұрын

@Mickey McH yeah the decapitation is totally uncalled for. they protected the evidence more than they shouldve respected the body of the deceased.

I remember this case and how crazy it was when it made the news, glad to see Netflix giving it the attention it deserves. poor guy :-(

@derpestarzt

Жыл бұрын

No you don't remember it bc it never happened also what are you 60 years old to remember this?

@kimmythehun

Жыл бұрын

@@derpestarzt what's wrong with being 60 years old? some people would be grateful to make it to that age.

@derpestarzt

Жыл бұрын

@@kimmythehun there-s nothing wrong with being 60 I was just saying you look to young to remember this happening in the 80-s or whenever it happened.

This is quite possibly the best documentary I've ever seen. Definitely top five

These people weren't geniuses if they thought they could get a quarter million from a bank teller

@BrianKiddDevDesign

5 жыл бұрын

The weird thing is, I don't even think the money was the main motive. I think it was Marjorie wanting to get back at the bank for letting her father take the valuables that she deemed hers as an inheritance. Remember, she was not all there, but like a sick master chess player, was able to plan many steps ahead and hide her true motives. She was also a deranged narcissist it seems. Anyway, ultimately, I think in this case, she wanted to have her father murdered and have the bank get robbed. Think about this, if they knew that the bomb that Brian Wells had on his neck would explode AND they sent him on an impossible scavenger hunt, then did they think they would ever get the money? Maybe they thought they would find Brian's body at the first clue and their scavenger hunt, and that is why Bill Rothstein's blue van was seen by the black officer. Rothstein and Armstrong were coming to get the money off Well's corpse. So maybe they did think they would get some money, but to me the main motive of Majorie Armstrong was revenge, and she used the money as leverage to manipulate Bill Rothstein, who needed the money. The whole thing is truly bizarre, but remember, it all is funneled through the twisted, narcissistic mind of Armstrong. (Also another crazy thing is remember that I think it was Brian's mom said he was very good at scavenger hunts and enjoyed participating in them. Well...what better way to build Brian's confidence than to tell him that to get the bomb off his neck, he would just have to participate in a scavenger hunt? This could also be why he might have seemed relaxed in the bank. He might have even thought the bomb was fake. )

@raghadradi8840

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrianKiddDevDesign I agree, I think it was just a manipulative element used to get more partners in, and to confused the police even more, dont forget that they freezed the body for no reason when they could have just thrown it away somewhere, and going back to point zero....why did bill for real call the police by then? it was the final straw to start this all, he may have wanted to bring revenge on marge since she rejected him since he knew he is going to die anyways at the end, I dont think he wanted the money either on his house, since quarter of a million is too high and he knew it, I dont think they would ignore the fact either that obviously they cant get that much money from a cashier(they only got 8k in the end), looks like it was just to delay it all and shut his sibilings cries

Just watched the first episode and almost passed out after watching that dude explode like that.. Seriously made me want to throw up

@lucy489

6 жыл бұрын

David Ferry can't believe I thought we wouldn't actually see it happen, truly horrific.

@XzGowXz

6 жыл бұрын

you are a lightweight

@zforde809

6 жыл бұрын

BearandBlossom I wanna see it

@ol3770

6 жыл бұрын

I was traumatized i had to pause for a minute and was feeling shocked and confused and had so many questions ran through my mind. Definitely did not expect to be shown that.

@twdjt6245

6 жыл бұрын

Ikr. Couldn't believe he survived that even if just for a few minutes. I jumped when it happened. Thought they were gonna blur it out like everyone else did.

This documentary was great and sad at the same time

@sanchirkh6019

6 жыл бұрын

i felt bad for both marjorie and Brian

This shit got real REAL quick I watched all the episodes in one sitting of course 😂

This was so good. Watched all 4 parts in one sitting lol.

@Bluemoon2000x

4 жыл бұрын

You’re so cool bro , saying how a guy being murdered basically is sooo good

@amandavang137

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bluemoon2000x Damn, I wrote this 2 years ago? But yeah, I definitely coulda worded it better haha

@amandavang137

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoOne-pr8oh Lol damn nice. Only seen one episode of arrow. Acting was too cheesy for me. Good looking cast tho

Crazy what passes as "extremely intelligent" in this place

@proogenji7526

6 жыл бұрын

Towelie hahaha probably IQ80 is enough. But you gotta give credit to bill rothstein, he designed the whole thing, even called the police himself and basically got away with it.

@Scorch428

5 жыл бұрын

Yup. Although, I think he was really a moron. I knew just from watching the first episode that only he was stupid enough to write a long robbeyr letter like that...thinking he was smart....we all know that type of person. They THINK theyre smart, but are pretty dumb in certain areas.

@VolcardoReviewer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scorch428 He purposely wrote long drawn out instructions as a red herring .

@darrena4995

3 жыл бұрын

Fr just cos they went and got degrees there smart cap, they’re the dumbest ppl they’re just good at manipulating

Holy hell was this disturbing. A great documentary but I was not familiar with the case and it is just beyond awful. It’s still bothering me.

The Bomb Collar sounds something Jigsaw would do. Especially the scavenger hunt thing.

Netflix you're making me a couch potato. I started with house of cards . Just saw wild wild country. So engaging. Every Netflix original is amazing.

@grimbutcher

6 жыл бұрын

Just set up a treadmill in front of the TV.

@Revealingstorm.

6 жыл бұрын

Wish they were. Most are pretty bad.

@KevinJ930

6 жыл бұрын

You should watch Sense8 and you will be very satisfied, I promise.

@mrbottomtext1401

6 жыл бұрын

It’s not like Netflix actually even makes these shows

@mrbottomtext1401

6 жыл бұрын

Give credit where it’s due

The personal rivalry of Rothstein and Diehl was fascinating and he truly outsmarted her. Marjorie is diabolical. I enjoyed watching her sickness. lol

I live in Western PA my whole life. I visit Erie PA a couple times each year. Never heard of Brian Wells or this story lol thats mad!

@cecarblanco9933

6 жыл бұрын

Marcus Spiva i assume you do mot watch the news and if someone asks you to point Vietnam in a world map you probably will not know either. Why are most Americans so freaking ignorant. I heard about this case back in 2003 and i Live in Texas. Not wonder is so easy for politicians to fool the masses in America.

@thepinkmexicant9744

6 жыл бұрын

CECAR BLANCO im sure if you asked some politicians about this they wouldnt even know

@cecarblanco9933

6 жыл бұрын

thepinkmexicant Ok, that is my point, you could be more informed than a politician but you are not. Gas was really expensive during Bush era and went considerable down during Obama era, why? Because Obama cares about the poor, no i do not think so, international politics was the reason. Gas is expensive again and Russia could not be more happy but i doubt you follow me because you choose to not inform yourself about issues or just do not have the curiosity to find out what is going on. Anyways, have fun playing your video games. Peace...

@thepinkmexicant9744

6 жыл бұрын

CECAR BLANCO idk why youre making generalizations about me as if you know what any of my interests are and what im informed on and what does this have to do with politics and economics?

@batorres24

6 жыл бұрын

CECAR BLANCO bro. Shut up. It’s not that serious

i’ve seen this 4 times. i get the chills every time. it astounds me how twisted people are.

Anyone else notice the “ blue van” in rothsteins driveway in episode two?

@vickyshukla74

4 жыл бұрын

Ooh yess i did..!as soon as the frame showedup

@elishbeourque3649

3 жыл бұрын

G F yes I noticed

@kmmy03x

3 жыл бұрын

How could they missed that?

@DigiPal

3 жыл бұрын

​@@kmmy03x Because they were competing against each other (police services), instead of helping each other. We can see in the documentary that they were hiding infos from each other. Thought we were seing this in movies only, but it seems that it's real.

Great documentary! Really gets you thinking, at the end I still had so many questions. Unfortunately we will never know how the exact details

Easily my favorite documentary of all time.

This documentary was awesome. Couldn't stop watching it.

Wild Wild Country was amazing. Can't wait for this!

Just finished watching Mindhunter, it's 12:25am, and now y'all add this? Who needs sleep.

Most incredible documentary I’ve seen in a while.

After completing he doc .. it feelz so upsetting that aftter so many years brian didnt got the justice. He wasnt talked about much nd it looked like as if no one cared about his death. Watching margie shouting and screaming made my headache all through the doc. I just wish there was an episode all about brian and his life. Seeing him lying in the middle of road wailing and begging the cops about the bomb beeping was so disturbing. No one was helping him at the time . No ambulance was there . It feels so sad that his family had to see the whole thing .

I remember hearing about this years back. Just got done watching it and it was incredible. Shocking to see the bomb go off and blow him back. Definetely caught me off guard

@amandawilson7412

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

I believe he was threatened into accusing Black men of putting the bomb around his neck. For example they could’ve told him the bomb around his neck had a microphone and if they did not hear him say that they would set off the bomb

live for documentaries like this, well done Netflix 🙌🏻

So heartbreaking for Brian… I believe he was innocent and only found out his fate during his final moments. No one deserves this at all what a horrible way to die. May he rest in peace 🙏🏼

***MAJOR Spoilers*** I think Jessica Hoopsick genuinely believes that Brian Wells knew nothing of the heist and that the money she accepted was to set him up when in actuality it was just to help them establish a connection. I think he did go to the meeting the day before with his fellow employee so they could both set up the plan to ensure that whenever the call for the pizza delivery came thru there would be no interruptions. There was a reason why the owner of the pizza place "couldn't understand" the native English speaking caller, yet Brian Wells could as soon as he took the phone- to ensure that the owner couldn't identify the caller. I think Brian got cold feet when he arrived and that's why they slapped him to get him to comply with them putting on the collar, and that he was to be paid for the pizza so the people who ordered it wouldn't be fingered by the police if their identities were discovered. They wanted to make it look like "some black guys" trapped Brian Wells. There was a reason why he ate the lollipop WHILE he was robbing the bank- because he wasn't scared, which points to the idea that he had no clue that it was a real bomb. He was awfully calm even down to the seconds before it exploded. His comment, "I'm not lying" doesn't fit with the level of stress an innocent person would be dealing with in that moment. Poor Brian Wells had no idea that he was going to be killed so they didn't have to share the money and it was one less witness, but it doesn't mean he wasn't part of the plot to rob the bank.

@prashastimishra

2 жыл бұрын

Correct and if he was not involved in it he'd have solved the case then and there only, remember how he said when he was on the ground that "it was some black guys" who did it to him, when a normal person would have totally snitched on these people if they were not involved but he went with the plan and misguided cops that it was some black guys as he was told to do. Yes, there is no doubt in that, that he never knew it was a real bomb and that could make him an innocent victim here but we can't deny the fact that he was involved in the crime.

@FootballislifeShrey

2 жыл бұрын

Why to pretend to order a pizza? I mean if he was a part of the plan, which it actually seem he was then why to go through this route? This is not making sense to me. Couldn’t they all just get together and like set it up on his neck and then he go to rob? Also I think Marge and Bill and maybe the other guys also agreed to make it a real one so that in case if he gets caught by cops, it’ll explode, so no witness. I think that was the only reason to make it real.

@CyberneticOrganism01

2 жыл бұрын

@@FootballislifeShrey The pizza guy is supposed to be innocent, he is supposed to stop the bomb and when police question him he'd just say he's a pizza delivery man following instructions. He would have handed over the money to the gang. Police would have to release him because he's innocent. But then the plotters think, why not make the bomb real and eliminate him as a witness altogether? And then Brian Wells figured the same: they might have made the bomb real, so he deliberately foiled the robbery, did not hand them the money. But he was in doubt and did not think fast enough to find help to disable the bomb.

@davidrobinson9528

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I was starting to think everyone in this comment section was brain dead. I also said you could piece together their admitted confessions and immediately tell what actually happened. Especially when Brian and Ken both said to blame the collar placement on black guys. How would Brian know to say what Ken confessed had they never met? I also think the robbery was a ploy to deter police from Marge killing her boyfriend because the instructions had him still in the area during the scavenger hunt after the robbery. Why would they have Brian circle the bank. That don't sound like they intended on getting the money? I thought the same that Brian but off more then he could chew but too late to back out. The lollipop symbolized his arrogance in knowing he was going to get away. He didn't even look nervous or try to signal for help in the bank. If it's timed I'm not wasting time in a bank. I'm driving straight to the police station.

@purplehaze1274

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrobinson9528 "If it's timed I'm not wasting time in a bank. I'm driving straight to the police station." You weren't paying attention if you think that would have been an option. They said they would detonate the bomb if he did not follower their directions. I

Great documentary! It was very well put together and interesting. Had me guessing the entire time. Definitely worth watching !

this is one of the most beneficial documentary i’ve ever watched...netflix is on another level.

I just finished this today. It’s incredible. I want to tell the creator(s) how wonderful they did.

Saw real life

@cosmicsins6226

6 жыл бұрын

I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO SAY THAT

@84blizzle

6 жыл бұрын

And the "Shut up and Dance" Black Mirror episode.... Though I don't wanna spoil the similarities..

@MrBeetsGaming

6 жыл бұрын

You mean on tv

@punkgrl325

6 жыл бұрын

One of the Saw scenes was inspired by this case.

@TheMiist

6 жыл бұрын

Brian-84blizzle you just did

The Duplass brothers are on fire, all of their content is legit.

This was amazingly insightful...very well put together...poor dude

Wow just wow, amazing doc. Beats making a murderer even tho MAM is longer and shows a bit more of the actual court footage this story is amazing and worth the watch.

So I see where the movie “30 Minutes or Less” got influence

@Gabrielathebook

6 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that

@ka3134

6 жыл бұрын

They actually got into trouble because they didn't consult with the guy's family before making the movie

@theendofit

6 жыл бұрын

Karlee Ainslie considering the guy with the bomb was secretly in on it i dont care if theres permission. Thats like asking hitlers family permission to make inglorious basterds.

@deeblzn_one9787

6 жыл бұрын

And saw movies lol

@AV-sd7cq

6 жыл бұрын

dee blzn_one saw is about an old guy with cancer trying to play a game lol

I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION BUT SPOILER AHEAD SO DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED. I watched all 4 episodes & I know the Jessica admits to setting him up BUT one question for me STILL remains... If he really didn't know about it & was really a victim, how come he went into that bank so "nonchalantly" & even grabbed a lollipop to suck on? This documentary did an amazing job at pointing out questions and answering every single one of them throughout the 4 episodes but this is the ONE thing they didn't address... I mean we could just assume he was told to act normally (by Rothstein and Marjorie) but I feel like when you're forced to rob a bank with a bomb around your neck you wouldn't be able to act so normally as to suck on a lollipop while waiting to rob the bank... anyone have any insight on this? Other than that, this was one of the best documentaries I've seen.

@ronyy143

6 жыл бұрын

Also, Ruthsteins biggest downfall was himself. He claimed to have been the smartest man, but if it wasn't for his voluntary phone call to the police about Marjorie killing that guy they left in the freezer, this case would have probably remained a mystery... Unreal to think she had that much hold on him throughout the years & he so willingly ended up fucking her over.

@leejones8582

6 жыл бұрын

Plus in his suicide note it said this has nothing to do with the Brian Mills case so was it a touch of guilt that made him write that

@soundtrackstvm4002

6 жыл бұрын

suicide note? didnt that guy die of cancer?

@soundtrackstvm4002

6 жыл бұрын

i think he tought it wasnt a real bomb, but its still weird. i do think brian wasnt a 100% there or he had a childs mind at the very least. it could be that he just doesnt take situations as seriously as grown men would do. like when that bomb started ticking he did seem a bit agitated but still calm by my standards because i would be shitting my pants at that point.

@jamesshatford7389

6 жыл бұрын

Ya that was the thing i couldnt get over a normal person would be scared shitless and trembling not casualy swinging his cane around eating a lollipop

This is one of the best docu’s I’ve ever seen, I really recommend it!

This was great. I lived off of Peachtree road in Erie several years after this but it is still to this day discussed in conversations.

The most amazing part of this crime was that people involved never revealed the "SECRET".

Just finished this and it was amazing.

This series was incredible

Awesome story. Kept me enthralled from start to finish.

Just the trailer sends chills up my spine! And this case just shows how cruel the world can be

Im a erie local, and I was in 9 grade when it happened. I remember being genuinely scared that someone was out there that did this. I really enjoyed the doc, learned a lot about it that I didnt know

Just watched this, very good. Had watched documentaries on this event before but this went into a minute level of detail and was able to track down the conspirators and interview them.

This is where Netflix shines. Looks like another brilliant documentary

This Eerie Indiana reboot is dark.

@robinlaurence6284

6 жыл бұрын

Patrick Tomasso Lol! I thought about that too! That show freaked me out!

@Thecuriousincident1

6 жыл бұрын

They really should reboot that show.

@ephilly2935

6 жыл бұрын

Pennsylvania

@LunchTableBeats

6 жыл бұрын

I miss Eerie Indiana, although it technically had a reboot in 98 called the other dimension. But it lost its thunder with a new cast and by not being directed by Joe Dante

@makudonarudokairu

6 жыл бұрын

Loved that show as a kid !

This was brilliant I definitely recommend it

@santaclause3487

3 жыл бұрын

They made a movie about it, 30 mins or less

I remember being a little kid and watching this play out live on the news. Excited to see this.

One of my favorite documentaries!

I was SO unsatisfied with the way this ended. I was really waiting for that BIG reveal and final confession from Marj, what a bitch. Jessica did Brian so dirty too like she even confessed and still wasn’t charged? There was no justice served for Brian Wells whatsoever, poor man. I feel for his family :(

i vaguely remember this because I was only 11 but I remember it being in the Philadelphia news. So looking forward to this. I wonder if this is a full documentary or a docu-series.

@bean-nighe

6 жыл бұрын

It's a docuseries, their is also one called The Staircase on the way as well.

@MonSune9551

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I never finished "The Staircase". So I'm glad it's a docu-series!!

@jabzt

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure its just a documentary not docu-series. Because Netflix will always say “all episodes on ....” if it was a series

@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII

6 жыл бұрын

tevin_pa9551 While you wait for this to be released, give The Confession Tapes a shot. Amazing and heartbreaking stuff. Some innocent people got coerced by police to confess to serious crimes they had zero evidence to prove. Left bad taste in my mouth but I enjoyed it.

@84blizzle

6 жыл бұрын

I think they would've mentioned if it was a docu-series .... What's "the staircase" ?

I watched this last night and it was one of the best documentaries I have ever seen.

I'm on ep.3. I'm totally hooked in! NETFLIX is a force. Constantly outdoing themselves.

yall need no oscars.. you make your own !

I just completed it & man what an epic docuseries it has blown my mind such twists and turns. People who outsmarted legal authorities. Died keeping their innocence while protected others secrets. It is awesome gives you a lot to think about

just watched this i couldn’t recommend it enough it’s ridiculously good it just keeps you hooked in every single second

@soundtrackstvm4002

6 жыл бұрын

well it depressed the shit out of me

An extremely intriguing case. I remember the heist but didn’t know the rest of the case. Well done documentary. Worth watching!

Netflix on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 with these shows!

Time to buy buy popcorn Nachos , and Chocolate :D

this was an amazing story, I had heard of it, but was not aware of the details, wow talk about a rabbit hole! Well done doc.

I stayed up way past my bed time. I love documentaries like this. Seeing things as a child then seeing it when I'm an adult. Wild

Damn that looks so good.

@kezbancomak3453

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Borelli Oh my god. It's really good. I stayed up from 1 am to 5 am to see the whole thing. I highly recommend this.

Should’ve been a MindHunters episode

@marcuscarcus159

6 жыл бұрын

Johnnie Sturms Nah.

@hiphopnin3

6 жыл бұрын

Takes place in the 60's with real crimes. This took place in 03. It wouldn't work.

@8o8g91

6 жыл бұрын

Damon Philpot Can you read? This is a real crime.

@hiphopnin3

6 жыл бұрын

Shady B can YOU read? The show takes place in the 60s.. This happened in 2003. The crime didn't happen for another 40 years.

@hiphopnin3

6 жыл бұрын

But he isnt caught in the show and the time frame still matches.

I lived in erie since I was 2 years old and still live here I remember this like it was yesterday I can't believe they made this

I watched this last night and it was so engrossing I watched all of the eps in one sitting

Marjorie wanted Jim to commit the bank robbery but refused when he knew a real bomb would be involved and therefore was silenced

This was so haunting and terrible. Could not stop thinking about for days after I watched it. It was so bizarre how it unfolded. I feel so bad for Mr. Wells and his family. The only thing he was guilty of was being too mild mannered and not fighting and fending off these assholes. Such a shame. Hope all of these evil jerks rots in hell. It was senseless.

This documentary had more twist and turns than a rollercoaster in Orlando

Great documentary! They should really turn this into a movie.

There's not an Evil 'Genius' seen in this whole series.

I swear every time they do the fade away of her face from when she was young to when she got old, I get the chills. I used to watch Americas most wanted when I was a kid when my dad watched it....and I remembered this case from when they aired it more than any others I saw.....it was just that so diabolical and scary to me that someone who did something so evil was still out there. Wasn't aware that they had made discoveries in the case until i saw this trailer. That being said, just finished the documentary in 2 days and although I think it's likely that Brian wasn't in on the initial planning.....I still have one question: If he had no idea of the heist until they forced the collar onto him, Why would he follow the order to tell the cops while on the ground that it was some black guys who did it?? I get that they said they'd be watching him, but of course the police wouldn't have let anyone within earshot of him.....so why not go ahead & tell them what the people really looked like....especially when the drug dealer was there when they put it on him & and he knew who he was or at least who he was connected to, even where he lived. Brian himself with just a sentence or two prior to death could've helped the police solve the case within a day......so that makes me wonder......if the word of the hooker saying he was completely innocent was reliable or not (she could maybe have been lying just to get back at Marjorie in prison who likely had someone beat her ass while she was there, for snitching). I still think since it's kind of indisputable that he was forced to put on the collar , Marjorie and company should've been charged with murder regardless.

@trestres236

6 жыл бұрын

Not in the initial planning but was played. He was going to get a cut and was told the bomb was fake in case he got caught, that way he can claim to be innocent. The bomb was real to eliminate any chance of him telling the truth.

@twdjt6245

6 жыл бұрын

Trestres 23 I think maybe you didn't see the entire thing or one of us heard wrong.....but from my understanding...their "conclusive findings" was that he didn't know anything about it until he was ambushed delivering the pizza. They simply ignored the person who said they saw him coming from the evil lady's place prior.....and took the word of the hooker who said he knew nothing about what was gonna happen. I think its a possibility he did know about it like you said....and though it was a fake....otherwise why didn't he tell the cops what the people who strapped it to him really looked like (he instead told them they were black).......i think he could've told them the lie he was ordered to tell just to cover his own ass for the robbery .........and the hooker could have claimed him innocent of knowledge from guilt of getting him involved to begin with (he could be the father of her child) and also because she could've wanted to get back at 'Marge' because she had her beaten when she was in prison.....(if the cops thought he didn't even know the bank was gonna be robbed, then Marge could be charged with murder instead of just conspiracy) ......that being said.....that is not the conclusion they came to and they say he wasn't in on the plan (or any perceived plan) at all. Guess we'll never know for sure.

@trestres236

6 жыл бұрын

Jen Tuesday yeah well their conclusive findings were wrong

@ukhouseRJ

6 жыл бұрын

He told them that , because thinj about it if it was you would u lie too? Wouldnt u be scared for your life if u told the cops and the cops did not catch them.. maybe he tought they will try to kill him again

@genn.623

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe the bomb had an attached audio speakers and the criminals threatened to detonate the bomb if they hear him violate the instructions given to him?

Love it when I see that something good is gonna be in Netflix the day after I first heard about it.

Can’t wait. I’ve always been fascinated about this news story 👏🏾

What a f**king show !!! Just finished it! It's a no-brainer, watch it.

This case must have had inspired that episode of black mirror

I remember seeing his head splatter LIVE on Channel News and thinking, people probably weren't supposed to see that.

This documentary is a masterpiece