They even put a thermal pad on the missing GDDR5X chip, that's the definition of overcompensating...

@ignasanchezl

7 жыл бұрын

Could you like solder another memory chip flash a Titan X big P bios in?

@_BangDroid_

7 жыл бұрын

just crank up your soldering blower, ball up the pads, and mount that sucker! Someone should try this!

@theLuigiFan0007Productions

7 жыл бұрын

Quick get Louis Rossmann to "repair" the missing memory. I heard he loves BGA soldering. d:

@mocotonio

5 жыл бұрын

gotta cool those solder balls, man

@stevethea5250

4 жыл бұрын

stamp?

Thanks for watching! Our review for the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 is forthcoming. We are finalizing some testing, then will post all the content live. In the meantime, we've got a tear-down of the card here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3aetstppc2cZKg.html Our EVGA SC2 1080 Ti review is also live already: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWisqaOxkdSWecY.html Buildzoid's channel is here: goo.gl/69AD2H

@kaladabong

7 жыл бұрын

I love the time stamp stuff in the videos now.

@andreipelle6205

7 жыл бұрын

Gamers Nexus. just wanted to say that timestamps probably make videos 15-30 minutes longer to make but they are so worth it. Please keeep doing them! Great work!

@baddog9188

7 жыл бұрын

Can you compare the FTW3 with the SC2 in your benches? Would really appreciate it :)

@GamersNexus

7 жыл бұрын

Wouter Gunst SC2 will be in there, yes.

@trancefreak64

7 жыл бұрын

I just got my SC2 and sold my GTX1080 FTW2 for $550 and the SC2 is freaking beast. I too want to see the difference between the 2 GPU's from EVGA but I am very happy with my SC2 @ $719 with a free game. I know it is expensive but I plan on using it for 4-5 years to get my dollars worth.

You need to cool your Fan Controllers if you want to overclock them

@shea3580

7 жыл бұрын

and your fans too

@Cust0mBuilder

7 жыл бұрын

Water cooled fan controllers incoming...

@camelCased

7 жыл бұрын

Keeping your head cool is even more important when overclocking. Especially in cases when your GPU goes on fire.

@KC-bg1th

7 жыл бұрын

They've been around for almost 200 years! In fact, there was much experimenting in the 1830's and in 1836 it was successfully used on the Paddington Canal. Ever since then, the controllers used with them have become much more efficient in reducing energy consumption as well as overall performance.

@KC-bg1th

7 жыл бұрын

*GET IT?* You fucking better; I just read a wiki page on cork-screw propellers just for that joke.

What a cool Motherboard! Oh wait... It's a GPU.

@ignasanchezl

7 жыл бұрын

GPU's Motherboard

@dlou1337

7 жыл бұрын

Motherboards are made of Polychlorinated biphenyl, learn to logic.

@DanielCardei

7 жыл бұрын

its not a motherboard its a daughterboard

@ignasanchezl

7 жыл бұрын

Its a board.

@ignasanchezl

7 жыл бұрын

This is the GPU, its mother is this PCB, and the Aunt is the PC's Motherboard, who also has a son, the CPU.

Love the left loading bar!

Over-engineered you say? :Proceeds to rub money on screen:

@frighteningspoon

7 жыл бұрын

nice

@MATTP545

5 жыл бұрын

you need to rub even more money on the screen for it to work says nvidia

its really cool seeing someone who clearly knows a little something about electrical engineering and can identify the various components and ICs being used.. and explain what they do. This info is often hard to come by. Very nice work, thanks

Woah, that live timetable is awesome! Great first 3 mins! :)

@zushiba

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, coolest live updating time-table I've seen. Only one suggestion I'd like to see is clickable zones over it to let you skip to those sections.

@GamersNexus

7 жыл бұрын

We have absolutely no way to implement that, unfortunately. KZread does not allow such functionality.

@zushiba

7 жыл бұрын

It doesn't? I've seen other videos overlay annotations /w links to specific times within a video. Usually used to skip intro's and stuff. Your timetable is still the best I've seen though so, still very well done.

@Jalexster

7 жыл бұрын

KZread has removed support for video annotations. Older videos still support them, but newer videos ONLY support information cards (that little i button in the upper right) and end cards. This is because video annotations aren't supported on mobile, and KZread wants to provide a uniform experience across all platforms. Also, a lot of uploaders simply abused the annotations function to spam the crap out of people watching.

@zushiba

7 жыл бұрын

That they did, I personally turned annotations off on the vast majority of videos I watched.

awesome breakdown and i really appreciate the time line slots on the bottom left

lessons learned became lessons applied. well done EVGA

@GregoryCunningham

7 жыл бұрын

Not really, only If this trickles down to every card. Keep in mind the GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 had this issue.

@Jordan_Jetter

6 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure it was only the 1070 and 1080 that were blowing up, and they were blowing up in small numbers. Regardless of this they released a revised version of the 1080 and 1070 not to mention offering a free RMA to fix the issues on earlier cards.

@666Daheretic

6 жыл бұрын

EVGA gets my money because they never let me down in an RMA process (only ever had to RMA an 850w supernova G2 which was also my fault it died) and they still sent me a new one. And by the way the 1070 FTW2 and SC2 both have this same design layout for cooling. I have both cards, the SC2 in my white NZXT H700i build and the FTW2 in my fancy Fractal define R6 RGB build.

@666Daheretic

6 жыл бұрын

Also i had a Gigabyte GTX 970 that had the VRM blow up so quit acting like this is only EVGA.

@stevethea5250

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan_Jetter will this one blow up? www.mwave.com.au/product/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ftw2-gaming-icx-8gb-video-card-ac02242?gclid=CjwKCAjwqLblBRBYEiwAV3pCJvh5XOOrQJ9M98LVWWQXGIAdvwcI2kTnoAWRMZ2EPdwoqbzds9Y8xBoCaTYQAvD_BwE ​@Vape&Game44035

Can't get enough of the AHOC w/Buildzoid!

great analysis, really enjoy how thorough you guys can be!

Absolutely awesome analysis, insanely detailed but easy to understand somehow. Thx a ton!

As an engineer, over engineering is a good thing most of the time, as long as it is within reason. Hopefully this is, can't wait to watch!

@LazyMcCrazy

7 жыл бұрын

As an engineer, over engineering is inefficient.

@TheEchelon

7 жыл бұрын

Josh Sisson, it depends. Optimizing can be a lot of work and can consume a lot more time. If over engineering means cooler temps and safer power delivery (without affecting other things negatively) I'd say it's not a bad thing.

@joshnull6132

7 жыл бұрын

I'll take my ice cold card that last longer than most except liquid cooled ones thanks.

@maxfacts1

7 жыл бұрын

As a engineer, OVER ENGINEERING is the best FAIL SAFE way of insuring that marginal components exceed performance requirements. I am impressed with EVGA and will recommend their over engineered cards. It's good to see Nvidia's many partners designing beast cards for beast Pascal 1080Ti GPUs giving smart gamers many over engineered 1080Ti cards to pick from.

@xellestar

7 жыл бұрын

Their behavior is great to see. They f'd up previously and now went well out of their way to ensure it didn't happen again. Another company may well have said oh well shit happens and carried on the same as before. There's often not much between the various gpu manufacturers and it sometimes makes a hard choice when getting a new card, little things like this will make me lean towards evga over others.

Love your videos man!!

men I love your reviews/presentations, its nice that i finally know a bit more about this.

Thanks for putting in the work--this has to take a long time to make.

Love the technical details, I learnt a lot.

love that little table in the bottom left, awesome idea

Incredibly good and detailed video, keep that stuff up! I feel like you're one of the last channels to really do stuff like this instead of going for clickbait titles and not giving any information.

freaking awesome! subscribed! amazing info!

Thanks for the analysis.

EVGA is an anagram for VEGA.

@joak-web

7 жыл бұрын

Half Life 3 confirmed

Found you based on this video. You earned my subscription and a like

Really, really informative. I like.

Great breakdown thanks. KBO.

Great Scott!

Huh that's good design imo. I like seeing more cooling in general as well I think I may well be purchasing one of these.

The thermal pad on the inductors might help prevent coil whine, something manufactures seem like they give a shit about.

Its amazing PCB for ftw3 I'm thinking to buy one. Thanks for the PCB

could you please create a video explaining the art of supllying your hardware with power by going over how a psu works and what happens on the pcb of the gpu and mainboard? it would be much appreciated :)

That was the most interesting video on the 1080ti I think will ever be made...... Thank you!

Great vid. thanks

I almost jumped at that surprise Steve moment after the first part of the video.

B U I L D Z O I D B O Y Z

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

7 жыл бұрын

see if they were using cheapo components I would've pointed it out when I did a breakdown of one of the FTW cards. Except the components that failed were from a manufacturer that has been used by basically every GPU/mobo maker in existence and are still being used right now.

@harmonicseries6582

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but they can make different deals with parts manufacturers. The parts manufacturer can supply the same part for different price ranges depending on the requirements. So buying from the same supplier doesn't necessarily mean buying at the same price or the same quality. This can be easily seen as other manufacturers are doing fine.

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

7 жыл бұрын

yeah which is why EVGA got a refund from the manufacturer that supplied the dodgy parts for the FTW cards. If those parts could reach the specs the datasheet for the faulty parts specs then EVGA would never have had any of the exploding VRM failures.

@harmonicseries6582

7 жыл бұрын

They get refunded for the parts, that doesn't mean they didn't buy lower grade parts for cheaper. If the part supplier had supplied parts that had a higher failure rate than expected there would have been a lawsuit for losses occurred to EVGA due to misleading specs, not just a refund for the failed parts.

Well I'm glad that I bought a overbuilt card. Good on you evga, keep it up. They defiantly gained my confidence.

love these video's even though i don't even understand half of it.

@GN More of these please.

EVGA is always my go-to for GPU. They always seem to go the extra mile for consumer level customers/fans/loyalists.

I am so glad I got this card, and before the huge crypto bubble too. With the slightly disappointing 2080ti release, I feel like I keep getting lucky. I think the first I got myself was the FX5600, then 6600GT, 8800 Ultra, GTX280, GTX580, GTX670, and now the 1080ti. That's not bad. Managed to skip the 400 series crap, though I did miss the 7 series.

from my experience you'll also need to short the PCIe slot shunt at the bottom, as the monitoring always uses the highest of the 3 for determining power draw.

It took me a full ten seconds to get used to the voice not being Steve's haha

Know this is pretty late and all but a Zotac 1080 Mini PCB Breakdown here or on AHOC would be awesome!

Reminds me a lot of the Strix Fury. Nice design overall.

Still very happy with this card, recently switched to a waterblock but it wouldn't have been necessary in terms of heat dissipation. Letting go of this one will be difficult

@intech7863

3 жыл бұрын

Its worth to buy 1080ti right now?

The segment progress bars are great, but you should stick the timestamps in the description so it is easier for us viewers to jump to what is relevant for us

@snrd

7 жыл бұрын

This. Please Gamers Nexus, listen to this and in addition put them as a comment unter the video for mobile users because timestamp links in the description do not work on mobile.

The VRMs for the fans can sometimes be required to deliver upwards of 15 watts to the fans. Do you think in a future model, they will make a cutout in that aluminum plate,and then give the fan controller VRM a dedicated heatsink with proper fins?

This card is monstrous!!!

Sound like dude from Actually Hardcore Overclocking ! :D

@endijsx5

7 жыл бұрын

I read description later ! :D

Buildzoid sounds like he's evolving into a Turian. Something's up with that modulation :>

Videos like this give me a chub. Partially because I know what you're going on about. Partially because I know a lot of others don't.

The other issue with EVGA was not the Vreg temps per se, but the fact that other competing GPU manufacturers offered better Vreg cooling.

19:18 Call the firemen, this vrm is lit!

some thermal pads are used as an isolation to prevent a short.

For clarification he means milliamps not amps. If you were drawing that much current your breakers would have tripped for the outlet it was plugged in too. And if they didn't trip, your house would burn down.

@newrez

6 жыл бұрын

Flick I like this comment. It made me laugh

This VRM is pretty to me, I want a window so I can see it! Not possible to do that and still cool it of course (without some kind of tricky mineral oil rig) so I'd just have to use my imagination. :) Thanks for another great analysis vid Buildzoid!

@ralanham76

7 жыл бұрын

Penterax actually glass is heat contacting think about people cook in glass and some parts of large AC use glass to cool and be insulated

that missing VRAM chip tingles my OCD. Actually, everytime I see a PCB with "missing" components, just lables and solder points tingles my OCD. Makes me want to solder something over myself. Even if it doesnt work.

i want this damn card!

It’s the inductors that blew. They need to be cooled. Independent testing shows that it floats around 114C at 22C ambient. Mine, now replaced hits 72C. I do because I owned one of these cards. I was able to replace the inductor s and fix the card.

Hey Buildzoid ever thought bout grabbing one of Neonode's Airbars and affixing that onto your display? Should be a cheap and easy way to make the display touchable, and thus make drawing on it easier. Depends on the display however; if the display is too big, most likely a touchscreen-enhanced model will do instead.

I feel a bit sorry for evga. Only a few of their 1080's actually failed, yet they allowed all owners including me. To return their perfectly working cards for the newer improved vs. Gotta give kudos to evga for that.

How do you do the live timetracking you added at the bottom. It's magnificent. Every video should have it. Podcast videos especially.

when is the final part of the titanxp video coming out

Buildzoid, can you do one of these vids for an old school 3dfx Voodoo card? That would be quite interesting and it would make me happy.

600A on the VCore would mean 55A@12V in the 8 pins, that would probably melt them. (9.2A+ per pin)

The thermal pads on the capacitors could cause them to get hotter, because they can transfer heat into the component.

Thank you so much! Would you like to do the similar rewiew after Vega anonse? I hope to see that movie. If I get Vega I will do lots of HDR photos and could send it to you.

Buildzoid rules!

Yep, components.. You can't guess in advance. Remember the capacitor plague on the motherboard for the CPU VRM?

Good video, apart from the 7's which you call 1's. Hard to follow the numbers whenever you write a 1 or 7 XD

Nice video, I am planning go buy this version, can you tell me where I can apply liquid metal (except GPU chip)?

Soulllll-dering with a soullllder kit! :-D

What would be awesome is giving us the link to that picture that Buildzoid uses to analyze the bcp.

@GamersNexus

7 жыл бұрын

We take the photos. They'll be in the review article, like they always are.

"BIOLS switch"

@shea3580

7 жыл бұрын

bi-ahs

@stevethea5250

4 жыл бұрын

@@shea3580 I'm curious to peoples thoughts here. I've made it known before I'm all for the DCA side of things but I'm also down for doing lump sum investments. At the moment the Aus market seems to follow the US market (fortunately or unfortunately, you decide). The last few days the US market has done well, subsequently the Aus market has done well the next day. Same when it detracts. When the market has pulled back a little, I've put money in and it's worked well. Today, for example, would have been a great day to throw a lump sum in. I ask you guys, how would you feel if Raiz allowed Poli Payments, where you could invest in your acc in the same day. Say you woke up overnight and hear the US market was up by like 2% and you thought crap I want to invest today so you use Poli and in the same day you invest like $200. What are your thoughts? I think it's more for the people who like a little risk than those who are only down for the DCA.

And now we know (yet another reason) why EVGA is one of the best card makers you can go with!

Rather then liquid metal, graphite pencil? It may not get you quite the same drop in reported current use, but try it on the capacitors, and it should get you a good bit?

EVGA has always used dual BIOS's on their motherboards but it's nice to know they've implemented them on their GPU's as well.

Please do a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme PCB VRM Analysis, it will be interesting as it seems it has a 14 phases

My FTW3 gets a little hotter on the gpu then id like. Could I use liquid metal for the gpu and the shunt mod? And which one is best if I ordered it from amazon? Thank you for the great video.

it started to have flames

how do you know all this stuff about gpu's? did you had education on a school about it? genuinly curious, like the live timetable!

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

7 жыл бұрын

I have contacts in mobo and GPU R&D.

@stephenallen4635

7 жыл бұрын

Actually Hardcore Overclocking I dont think he realises this is your teardown of the card

Hey GN, will you be doing a FTW 3 "review" like you did with the SC2? Would love to see some temps and stuff :)

@GamersNexus

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, we are working on a review.

glad to say that my 3/4ths of an electrical engineering degree has prepared me for this video

Where do you get the VRm heat dissipation numbers from, out of curiosity? Thanks.

I wonder how well these undervolt. Was able to undervolt my 1080 to 0.8v at 1800mhz. Total system power draw with my 6600K at 4.4@1.15v is sub 200w in stress testing. GPU fans are absolutely dead silent even in full load. Not even a whisper. I think the same way how you get through the roof power draw upping voltage, you get the opposite in undervolting. If you live in a small space, that can heat up quickly and become uncomfortably warm during long gaming sessions, and you enjoy quiet computing, I think it's the way to go with Pascal cards.

The 1080 Ti is already an insane card...

@ABCEDEFG911

7 жыл бұрын

jose juan andrade wait for volta

@ABCEDEFG911

7 жыл бұрын

Morning Xanax im a student and i need xanax

@Zubiscamulu

7 жыл бұрын

Volta is Q3 2017

@ilikeanalpoopoo3441

7 жыл бұрын

pretty sure nvidia is going with 2060 2070 2080

@ilikeanalpoopoo3441

7 жыл бұрын

GDDR6 comes out in 2018.. maybe wait a little longer? 970's are still good.

Is the PCB and the VRM Cooling the same as on the FTW 3 Hybrid?

which do you prefer. This EVGA or Asus strix?

10ohms resistor on top of the capacitor actually cuts your pwr reading to 1/5, not 1/3, since nVidia change serial resistors from 10ohms on the GTX1080 to 20ohms on GTX1080Ti.

Hopefully this means better, more stable OC on their cards. Cos all we care about is "moar frames".

If i wanted to short the shunts with liquid metal, would i just simply run i line/strip of it from shunt to shunt, making sure it's touching metal on the shunts ?

Cool all the things.

please!!!!!!! do a review on the 1080 ti zotac extreme im really interested in the card but havent seen any in deth review on the card

I saw a few videos with Coollaboratory liquid metal - after one year it was dryt out, and they have to remove it with sand paper... Are you sure that it is really so easy to remove it after a few years? i plan to use Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut...

Which cards can be overvolted more than 1.093 with software?

What about the EVGA SC2 Hybrid 1080 Ti? Is the FTW3 better even though it uses an air cooler ?

i'm actually wondering how much of a difference their new cooling design will make when it actually matters when nvidia starts releasing bigger/hotter chips near the end of squeezing out a generation that isn't voltage locked.

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

7 жыл бұрын

Nvidia scrapped unlocked voltages with the 600 series. They are not coming back.

@DaBombDiggidy88

7 жыл бұрын

thanks for the info :) pretty new to the whole pc building thing. From a technical perspective i really appreciate your channel!

@gamers nexus For casual overclocking, how much better is the ftw3 over the SC2 1080ti? Im not interested in flashing bios, but i am very interested in there 1080ti sc2 hybrid that just came out. Is it better to just put a hybrid kit on a ftw3 for overclocking? or just stick with the sc2 hybrid 1080ti? I feel like the hybrid sc2 might have higher overclocking headroom with the watercooler at least over the current air cooling on the ftw3, what are your thoughts?

920 Amps the caps will blow long before the Fets die lol. I'd like to see it though. 5 years later this board is still an absolute monster

Would I be able to use the vrm plate for cooling with a raijintek Morpheus instead of using heat sinks ?